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>> there is no evidence that marijuana is effective for people in this class, and this is just a cheech and chong show. i would like to give you the evidence that shows just how very wrong he is today. how much it has been. i would like to begin a little bit of history about marijuana, the cannabis plant, and how we got where we are today. cannabis, the plant comes into have a originated in hindu area. the himalayas, the region surrounding western china. the foothills of the himalayan region. sprung up and began to be embraced for medicinal and spiritual years, and also practical use.
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because the seeds are very rich and nutrient in the fiber is very strong and used for rope fiber and other things like that. it became an integral part of human civilization fairly quickly. it migrated into india, where it really found welcome home. the climate of india allow the plant to floris and reach its maximum potential. the warm, long season, the fertile soil. it became a mainstay in india and in their culture. it was used for, once again, food, medicine, spiritual pursuits. it was used for all sorts of medicinal remedies. that is what you have. plants in those days.
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from there, the plant seems to have spread out into the middle east. and then to portugal and maybe with the portuguese sailors to africa. it is just spread out through human culture. when it reaches northern europe, quite a while back, it was mainly used for rope. it was meant for rope. there is a large body of evidence suggesting that the psychoactive medicinal aspects were employed in europe, until the colonization period. irish physicians w.b. o'shaughnessy, he observed that it broad range treated a lot of
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different things, rabies, hydrophobia, lockjaw, he was pretty amazed that there was remedy. he began doing some observational studies and confirmed that there is serious biological activity beneath this plant and its extracts. he began writing it up and shipping it back to great britain. a british pharmaceutical company began to employ using it. they begin to ship it in from india. making concentrated remedies known as indian hemp remedies. these began to be used in great britain and the united states. in the united states, they became pretty popular in the late 1800s. you had indian hemp concentrate, and it was used for menstrual problems, seizures, nervous agitation disorders,
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alzheimer's, all types of illnesses that we now see. it is still being turn to for today. it was a very popular remedy at this time. but there were some standardization problems, which was kind of difficult, because the plant, depending on if it is grown in a sunny area or an area that gets less fun, that varies the amount of medicinal resin that the plant produces. that was one of the difficulties. when the synthetic drugs became popular and started coming into the pharmacopeia and the syringe was used, it became frequent way to deliver medicine. the hemp remedies began to fall out of favor to a degree. because they are not suitable for injection, they are far too sticky, they are not water
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soluble. they felt somewhat out of favor. they were still being used, but at that time, prohibition of alcohol had happened, and there were a lot of federal agents that didn't have a job. and so the bureau of narcotics, the division of the treasury, it was formed. and harry in swinger, who is the son of the secretary of the treasury, was given the job of eradicating marijuana. this was the way to make it work and it was grew out of a really malignant, racist attitude that these people had, because marijuana was hemp. it is kind of palatability. sailors from the indies and from the former saves untranslated,
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especially in new orleans in the southern states. there was an area called story will end it was very popular there. it was an integral part of the jazz movement. i don't know we would have the jazz that we have today without the cigar sized joints. he attributed a lot of us. he was demonized, in come in this campaign was launched to eradicate marijuana. it was said that it made white women have relationships with black men. it made mexicans go crazy. and murderer, white people, it was foisted upon the american public.
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randolph hearst, his papers printed numerous yellow journalism stories about the horrors of marijuana. congress moved to criminalize marijuana and eradicated in response to this outcry. the ama opposed it. when the hearings were being held, representatives for the ama opposed it because it was put off limits for a whole family of remedies that have not really reached its potential yet. it would take it completely off the market. and off the pharmacopeia. the representative who is moving to have this pass, testified that if the enemy were on board with this, and it passed. the way that marijuana was criminalized was three tax act. the government enacted a tax on marijuana that was unfeasible to pay because it was so large, and
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also impossible to pay, because they didn't make these stamps required to show you had paid the tax available. so it was a little catch-22, they decided. this is how marijuana was initially criminalized. in response to this, mayor laguardia issued a study of marijuana to see what really did. he came to the opposite conclusions of what the hysterics have been saying. but it wasn't significantly harmful. it didn't cause any degenerative illnesses. it did not cause any of the sort of social or mental aberrations that were attributed to it. the ama printed laguardia's results. then came under heavy pressure, to tow the line and get on board with marijuana prohibition. they used their power to go after doctors for other narcotic violations, and they really
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increased the prosecution of doctors for narcotics in order to bully the ama into accepting this position. so that is where we were. for a number of years, marijuana was stigmatized, it was portrayed as dope. commies were using it to ruin america. and it sort of just -- the medical -- it was read from the pharmacopeia in 1942. the mental aspects went dormant. nobody seemed to remember or care about them. it was confined to marginal societies and marginal groups. and that's how people felt. but it was dope, it was like here hair went and it was like bill. and then what happened was, the beats came along. and they begin to turn on. because they were sort of cross pollinating with african-american culture and the countercultural movement and political outcasts.
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and they sort of embrace this whole world and digested it and thought about an art form. the poetry and beat literature. ellington's bird was a big mover in this, and he was she was a huge proponent of marijuana once he tried it. he wrote an article that he talked about. how it makes going to the museum great because it stimulates your visual response to art. and your psychological response. and he began protesting and suggesting that the laws were out of touch with reality. what about the same time from other people began embracing if you were a little bit more mainstream, i.e. caucasian. [laughter] some of these people, we have a couple here. mike and michelle aldrich, locally, and they were integral in developing the group, lamarr, legalize marijuana.
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it became a little bit more acceptable for mainstream middle-class people to use. especially young people. this seemed to center around the ivy league schools because they had -- the students had interest in bohemianism and counterculture. so marijuana found its way into harvard and other universities, and young white kids, middle-class white kids out of using it. the use of it grew very rapidly. harvard is interesting because so much happen there. that is where there was a psychiatrist who had just finished a textbook on schizophrenia. and doctor lester greenspan. she saw these young people using marijuana, which he just thought was terrible, because these were some of the best and brightest minds of the generation. and he thought that we were really going to have a problem in the future if their brains
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were destroyed with marijuana. so he thought that i will write a paper that will convince them to turn away from marijuana, give them a scholarly argument and the real reason to not use it. so he started started researching it, he got hold of a book, a hemp papers, by doctor todd in korea, and copied everything they had on the subject. he came to the conclusion that there is nothing wrong with it. why are we acting like this over the substance? instead of publishing a paper against it, he wrote that marijuana was reconsidered. this was a profound text. it really challenge our understanding of what marijuana does in the human body and why we have the social policies that we do. from that point, marijuana use was growing and there was a young grad student who gave me a very good endorsement for my
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book, for which i thank him. andrew while, he decided that there needed to be some solid, medical research, conforming to the new type of medical research. in other words, double-blind studies have been implemented to get unbiased results for medical research. in which the researcher doesn't know who is getting what and the subject doesn't know who's getting what substance until the study is over. and so he decided to use him double-blind methodology. harvard would not let him do the study, so he did it at boston college i believe. they did allow them to do the study. he did a study and found out that there is no significant harm from it. it raises blood pressure slightly. i'm sorry, it lowers blood pressure and raises the heart
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rate slightly. people who are regular users frequently performed certain activities better while they are under the influence of marijuana. he published that study. then, timothy leary, who was the big psychedelic around that time come a little earlier, he was arrested going from texas and new mexico by the u.s. authorities for having one joined. it was the federal customs agency. he was sentenced to 37 years in prison for it to one joint. he appealed on the grounds that this is double jeopardy. because if he had paid the tax for the joint, which he couldn't do anyway. he would be declaring himself guilty of violating the anti-marijuana laws. so this conflict was untenable and unconstitutional greats of
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the justices throughout the marijuana tax act in 1969, just in time for woodstock. during 1969, there were no federal laws against marijuana. so 1970s, john mitchell, under the direction of richard nixon, constructed the controlled substances act, marijuana was put in the most restricted category, schedule and come having no medical use and its high level of abuse. threat of abuse. this seemed pretty ridiculous to a lot of people. a commission was established to look at this and see where murder one and should or should be placed. it was sort of put in the schedule. the shafer commission, nixon appointed a number of members of this panel. right-wing ideologues who would come back on us. they looked at marijuana and they researched it. they went to afghanistan.
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they met with hash producers and some of them smoked hash with an act any tribal man. and they came back and produced a report that said that marijuana should be legalized for personal use and small amounts of exchange between friends, and there should be some restrictions on large-scale distribution. but overall, the criminal is a fiction was doing far more harm than good. and we needed to deal with it. back to harvard, and by this time, lester greenspan wrote that his son got ill with leukemia and was vomiting after every treatment. and he was reluctant to go and continue treatment. he heard through the grapevine that there was a leukemia patient in texas who had been getting marijuana and had responded really well and not have nausea. so his wife went to the local high school, got some kids to
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score a joint, have her son's market before his next chemo treatment. he didn't grow throw up, and on the way home from he asked to stop and get a submarine sandwich, which lester could not believe. she told him. from then on, the doctor allowed him to smoke in the chemotherapy ward. so this is how the renaissance of medical marijuana started. the popular social use intercepted with serendipitously people who happen to be ill. another one was robert randall. he was young college student in the dc area. he had glaucoma. he was losing his vision. fairly rapidly. none of the available medicines were working. he went to a friends house, smoke a joint, walked home and noticed that the halos around streetlights that are systematic of increased pressure, were not there. every time he tried marijuana, his vision improved and the halos disappeared. so we started going -- growing
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it. he was arrested. he sued the government and he established the compassionate program that provided him with marijuana as a research subject. he had to get a doctor's degree to conduct research on him come even though the government never looked at the research. but it was sort of a way to get him in and allow him to have marijuana after he threatened to sue them. this was, in a sense, he saw it as a way to get other people on it. he could have stopped and kept and then quiet. but he went out and raise raised hell. and he recruited people and doctors to try and get on the compassionate program. the government was very resistant. they regularly lost paperwork that was cemented by adopters for patients. then when i got through, they
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would send it back, saying that you have made a mistake. it could be a slight punctuation error, but they wouldn't tell him what it was. it was this whole wall to keep anyone from getting on. but people did get on. they persisted, and a few people got on, or rosenfeld, who has an illness that causes spikes to grow on his bones -- tumor sites. using marijuana stopped the growth of the spikes and relieve his pain. he got on a different medication. then we got to the point where aides say. and 80s aides was the straw that broke the camels back. marijuana worked for aids patients. i have seen it. it stimulates the appetite and let them eat and keeps them alive. still young couple came to robert randolph, barbara and kenny jenks, and he was a hemophiliac who have gotten aids
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by transfusion. they were married and monogamous and high school sweethearts. and they became perfect spokespeople in an age in which people with aids -- people were so fearful of them, and so much homophobia and the stigma of drugs and injection drug use for other or other aids patients. they were a perfect couple to promote marijuana for aids. what he did is make a form that anyone can fill out. instead of doing all this research is needed to get in, he made a form. the physicians could fill it out, symantec, and they did, and it was sent out to aids care organizations throughout the country. the nih was flooded with requests for marijuana from aids patients. at which point, they shut it down and -- they had synthetic
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thc and put it into a pill. they started producing this, they shut down the program, and said, no more. i'm sorry. the ones who are on the canseco and the ones that apply to and approved, you don't get it. you get marinol. the federal bill that was interestingly sponsored by newt gingrich, he was an early proponent of marijuana -- medical marijuana. and he was a real pit bull for it, until ronald reagan got elected and nancy didn't want to get on the wrong side, so he dropped like a hot potato when overture's underside. so then, nothing was happening.
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federal bills were killed by people like kerry rex min. the compassion program was closed. that is when dennis came into the picture. he is a marijuana dealer here in san francisco, and a gay man who had lost friends to asia was providing marijuana for his friends with aids. and he was arrested for selling marijuana. he was a buddhist pacifist and find -- she was finding a way to provide the drugs himself. he could provide marijuana to aids patients. everyone with a disease like that needs marijuana. we had a little marijuana shop,
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that's right get my friend to talk. the people in the city of san francisco desire the state to make medications available for the patient population. that passed with about 84% of the vote. he opened up a marijuana shop and started medical marijuana and started promoting it as such. because he knew that if he were arrested, the jury pool is drawn from the voter registration, and 84% of the jurors would be on his side. he grew immensely. people came with all sorts of illnesses. the program grew on on 10 immensely. from there, he moved to prop 15, and so many people worked on that.
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there is just huge effort that came together. it was the first state medical marijuana proposition. right before that time, in 1996, there was something going on. donald abrams was treating aids patients and a lot of them are using marijuana. they provided a marijuana brownies and she was arrested making them. her arrest on tv international. we saw at the international aids conference. rick doblin of the multi- disciplinary studies for the mind, i talked about him doing a study study about this. he was prevented from the bureaucracy, the eea, nida, it was just a really insane
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pursuit. because the national institute on drug abuse is the only search for great marijuana. their charter states that they could only provide money and resources for research intended to accept. it is illegal in the united states, to conduct research on marijuana other than official purposes. that was what he was trying to do, and they would let him. they went through and was trying, and as to 15 is approachingpm, they are saying that they are not letting anybody do the research that would prove that it is. prop 215 past. and that is when everything started to change.
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it opened up a whole realm of freedom for which people could experiment and employ the cannabis medicines against. and see what they worked for. it was less stigmatized and people felt safe. more people who had ailments, decided to stay for the position, and it did help. the list continued to grow. menstrual cramps, all sorts of ailments that people had. they were finding relief from marijuana. now, in the 1960s, nobody knew how marijuana did what it did. the researcher and israel decided to investigate. he is a modern technique for pulling apart a sticky mess, he called it a horrible singer. it is really hard to isolate. using modern techniques, he was able to.
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and he was isolating a can have annoyed diol, and tetrahydrocannabinol, this was the psychoactive component in monkeys. and he said it was surprised it was just one component, had primary cycle activity. he established that there were tabloids. and that these were the active components. no one still knew how they acted in our body until 1988 when allen howlett and her research assistant on the first can adenoid receptor. that was in iraq springs. so that told us that we don't have this thing where we have marijuana and makes noise. that was 1988, and in 1992, william devane and lanier
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honors, they were working in the lab and israel. they discovered that the first indo can adenoid agent, the end of mind, that can have annoyed that we make that is the can's -- they found receptors in human body. in 1993, grew from cambridge, massachusetts, found a separate can adenoid respecter. 1995, he identified the second agent, which is something that we see that is actually distributed throughout the body. so that was very surprising to find it in the spleen tissue.
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so, from that point, the research began to seek what it does in the body and how it affects the body even more dedicated to research, and amazingly what researchers have found is that kavanagh its half powerful antitumor affects. thc and bc both work through the receptors to communicate to the body information that came down regulates harmful chemicals that facilitate the fallujah levy of cancer cells and tumors and to help regulate compounds that are
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hostile to these alien cells. and it's been quite an amazing revelation because there was -- it was ignored in 1975 that cannabinol aids inhabited juan met cancer and was never picked up, never exploited. 1997 study of the national toxicology project found that the more thc rats and mice in just the longer they live with a decrease in tumors and so now we see that what happens is these chemicals -- the thc connects with the receptors and communicates with the receptors. these are mimics of the chemicals that we have come and the job is to maintain an environment that is hostile to the development of disease and
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to attack the process and interrupted and stop it when it gets a hold on us. what we find is really amazing cannabinoid to produce blood cells of the can feed themselves. it's called angiogenesis and a day cafe gen f three the cannabinoid also inhibited the ability of cancer cells to migrate and spread to other organs. what is even more interesting may be is that they selectively target cancer cells. it's called a pop to assist in the the target them to get rid of them while sparing and actually nurturing the healthy cells, so this is completely amazing that you have this whole cocktail that works in so many ways and is evident for breast
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cancer, brain cancer, melanoma, lung cancer. so to support this information in my book what i did is this preclinical data that and i wanted to boost it so i looked at the epidemiological data coming and what we find is there is a study meant to prove that marijuana causes lung cancer and father is actually 37 part reduction in long cancer and chronic lung marijuana and a 63% reduction that had a net cancer of chronic long-term marijuana smokers over the non-smokers and there is a reduction in lymphoma hodgkin's disease. so this supports the activity that we've seen. now the other area that is fascinating with regard to marijuana is a neurological disease. specifically alzheimer's.
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and researchers have found that cannabinoids worked to reduce inflammation in the brain and prevent the accumulation of the plaque that is alzheimer's. alzheimer's is a disease that injured ribs the flow and communication in the brain and it interrupts the nerve pathway so the communication doesn't work. and thc goes and eradicates the plaque and also seems to affect how which is another agent that causes the degeneration of brain cells and even more fascinating thc triggers the mirror genesis the production of calfee functional brain cells. this is pretty amazing because we have been told that marijuana kills brain cells on the brain degeneration when in reality the studies were done by suffocating
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monkeys with marijuana smoke and they actually have oxygen deprivation. but when you look at the introduction of the kavanagh aides to the human beings, you find that they are highly protected of the central nervous system and the merging of the central nervous system. researchers who are looking at lou gehrig's disease, als said would require a cocktail the woodwork on the neurotransmitters, inflammation and then girons, and remarkably cannabis has activity in all of those areas. so this plant that has been so denigrated and so attacked can protect the brain from one of the most devastating illnesses we know. alzheimer's is probably the worst elements there is and you lose your sense of self and become a vegetable and done a miserable death.
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so, the researchers said we don't want to be in the position of recommending people use an illicit drug but there is nothing we have available that is as effective as thc for protecting the brain from the changes that come with alzheimer's. there was another study with a neurologist in ohio university and they found that thc is the best available agent for protecting the brain from the changes the result from aging and lead to alzheimer's disease and neurological illness and he said that his colleague recommends one puff a day because it is enough to protect the brain from the deutsch degeneration associated with alzheimer's. i also think it's interesting because there was a lawsuit brought by professional football players last week if the nfl for
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the allegedly hiding the damage that comes from repeated blows to the head is chronic, and produces a list of our solar to alzheimer's and produces a lot in the brain and there's good evidence that teach see with the other cannabinoid dbc will be eliminated and trigger the repair mechanism for the brain, so i say that marijuana scientifically speaking should be as common in locker rooms as ice packs. is a controversial and somewhat inflammatory statement but it's true if you look at science there is no reason except for illegal bias and bigotry that is aligned against cannabis. so the other thing that i want
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to mention is cbd as crossing fer diabetic mayor of the few which is the leading cause of blindness in the united states, and also seems to have the quality of the laying and minimizing the onset of diabetic symptoms. so, it seems to counteract the changes that come to the body through diabetes. why is it illegal? why is the plant still a legal and why aren't people talking about this? i wrote the book because i came across this vast body of the the and it's generally if it is reported as a study is reported it is dismissed with stir wednesday. i guess she chin tong won't be getting cancer, or it's ignored or it is this report it and not put into the context of local. what we see is we have a plant that is an ally of humanity whose compound snatch nearly
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identically with compound as we generate in our bodies to protect ourselves from serious illness, but the government keeps this from us through prohibition, and the thing i just want to say about prohibition as if you wonder why maybe it's because the dea has a 2 billion-dollar budget, the national institute on drug abuse has a 1 billion-dollar budget, and the drug czar cash office and i think this is right to double check it is amazing $15 billion for the drug czar's propaganda machine. and a lot of this money goes into creating the pseudoscience to convince people that marijuana is harmful. there was a study last year that came out and the headlines or marijuana harmful than previously thought the teenage dream but when you look at the study the inject teenage adolescent rats, injected them
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with synthetic cannabinoids. notte marijuana, not natural cannabinoids, and then promoted this as a study about marijuana. so, there is just a whole level of defeat and dishonesty, and we need to get over that and begin to look this scientifically. barack obama when he took office key would put science over ideology, and he made a big production about that that he wasn't going to be like the last president and he was going to go through science but he failed and someone really needs to make the change can and one place to start is to do research and the benefit of marijuana, and i think's to legalize marijuana on a state-by-state basis. thank you very, very much. [applause]
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estimate for the listening and viewing audience we are listening to a talk by clint.com author of marijuana and gateway to health. we are open to question and comment please come to the microphone. i have a question to start with. although the research on the health benefit is limited in the united states, but about european countries who? there must be research going on in other places. as a matter that is where most of the research has been done. there are still blockades' internationally and prejudice against using human subjects to study cannabis. but, moustapha studies that have shown benefit and have been named to find benefit have been done in italy, israel, spain, thailand. it's not here because you can't do studies to show benefits. the studies we have here that show benefits for independent to show harm and had a
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serendipitous result and they are pretty frequent. let me just say there was a study they wanted to show that marijuana amplified the damage to the teenage brain from alcohol and there was polydrug abuse, said they wanted to prove that marijuana and the alcohol more harmful, but they found that actually using marijuana conferred a significant protection against the alcohol brain damage that there was significant reduction in alcohol-related brain damage and teenager using marijuana. >> think you for that excellent overview. que mengin i ron ackley that jeter and sean wouldn't get cancer but the news last week is that jongh actually has prostate cancer and is treating it with him oil. can you discuss hemp as a treatment for cancer? >> okay, hemp oeo. some people think it is a misnomer to call it hemp oeo because people get it at the
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wholesale or the natural food store and it is extract of the seed that this refers to a highly concentrated extract from marijuana, where a pound of really potent marijuana buds have the active oil that the cannabinoid extracted are concentrated down coming into this is akaka huge movement that is called the cure where hemp oil, canada's oil was being promoted as a cure for cancer, and i personally have problems with that because i think that cure is deutsch word. i was going to call my dhaka canada's prevents cancer and alzheimer's disease but i realize it isn't the right word to use because prevention is a huge word as is the cure, so the science supporting this is a solid. i mean, it's not incomprehensible that if you flood your body with cannabinoids from marijuana
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coming into a cancer that you are going to get powerful antitumor activity. and i know someone who his recently been cleared of one cancer who is doing this with canada's oil and was also doing chemotherapy and dietary fight de kutz therapy but it's still an amazing recovery that she has had. but, we need to research it. we can't research it because it is illegal. if you have cancer, i would say go ahead and take the oil but to effective traditional therapy, too. >> the california medical association has a technical one advisory committee which is called legalization and taxation, and actually that the california medical association supported legalization and taxation as the best way to manage of. i think one question that comes up is it is a schedule that you mentioned should be rescheduled, should it be a drug, should it
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be treated as a dietary supplement or mechanical regulations like tobacco and alcohol? what is your thinking? >> it needs to veazey the schedule. i am not saying there are not any harm. young people can get distracted from developing their life skills if they use it. some people can get a few percentage of people can get in a bad relationship with it. if you're staying home during bong hits watching reruns' of sponge mog you probably got a problem but there is nothing that is so harmful it should be regulated other than maybe some age restrictions. i think it should be treated more as a botanical, and have some restrictions. >> thank you for speaking today. you mentioned something about andrew doing a study on the
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advantage and disadvantage of everyone and he did a study in boston college kid the study actually shows that it increased the performance of people who are actually doing at. that is addressed in a physical therapist and i wanted to know what kind of physical like to cities are we expecting to improve? >> this was taxed to the ticker tasks. the performance they are regular users. if they were under the influence of marijuana, in terms of physical the activity certain marijuana is more stimulating and surgeon are more relaxing. one thing i will point out, an offshoot of your question is there was a drug development that dropped the receptors in order to cause weight reduction
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to counteract the munchies and when people took this drug but dropped their cannabinoid receptor activity, they had nausea, vomiting, panic attacks, depression, there were a couple of suicides, and there is a significant increase in contusions, whiplash, car accidents, all sorts of accidents. and then there's a couple of studies that show marijuana users have a reduced likelihood of visiting a your urgency rooms for injuries than the non-marijuana users and the more marijuana used, there is a proportionate decrease in the likelihood of having injuries. and it seems strange. but if you understand cannabinoid system it deals with balanced coordination and if you have a well nourished system, it is very likely that you are a little more balanced and
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coordinated. this also may speak to the data that cannot recently that found that marijuana drivers are very, very safe drivers or actually far safer than anyone on alcohol and may be safer than people that are not on marijuana. >> i also a caregiver to my mother who is an an early stage of dementia. does it make any difference if she takes it in brownie's? she loves brownies. >> i would suggest someone like that could use sort of what was traditional before it was out lot. it's a suspension in alcohol and could be put into the tea or under the tongue coming and can be delivered without reaching a level of cycle activity. you could get to the point where she isn't going to get -- also, cbd also enhances the activity
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of thc, then you are not going to have as much concern about her getting high. thank you. >> a follow-up to that question. can you talk about other modes of delivery so that people who don't want to take products into their lungs might have other modes of delivery and is there any research on these other modes of delivery? >> yes, there was one of before he got left now for his nonsense she had to back off because he was threatening to put doctors that recommended marijuana in prison and he and hammill the route to study and he said yes it's very effective make it immediately available to people which has not been done. but they also said that the problem is that you are getting harmful compounds when you come bust and smoke marijuana.
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there is a fast rapid onset delivery system which is the benefit of smoking is you get the effect quickly. the marijuana community came up with vaporizers, all sorts of vaporizers and they heat their al-awja the point that the cannabinoids is liberated. there is a volcano that blows a stream of heated air up and they dillinger a bag and take the bad dhaka you get no combustion toxins, no carbon monoxide or the particular matter and there was a study by dr. abrams that confirmed the levels are actually increased and dillinger launder and you don't get the byproducts. but even with the harmful by-product it is interesting that thc is a strong enough to override those and still protect
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against cancer. and there is the jolie of the liberalization of law in california is people are -- marijuana it doesn't have to go to the black market can come to the health market and people are experiencing with choosing a fresh marijuana and getting thc that isn't such a practice because it hasn't been heated and if they can and just far more of this than they could thc the active compound but it still has protected beneficial biological what activity. the production of the canvas will you need to have a lot of that so the legalization in california is pushed sort of guerrilla research. >> is the system involved in
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many ways? >> it is, in fact, that is one of the interesting things that came out of was that he finally got to do his research on the patience when he hid his study as an assessment of harm and secondary value that showed benefits, sort of a trojan horse study, so he found that actually the improved the function key of people with aids and there is a study that came out recently that found as a inhibit the ability of the aids virus. that isn't boosting the function but it's boosting resistance. they are cylindrical, yes. the work with every aspect including bone preservation. it may be that thc flights osteoporosis because there is evidence that they felt secure
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and maintain the bones. >> thanks for a good talk. i wanted to ask if we had a product available in the u.k. and other countries we use for ns and other indications. >> it is growing this is a buddy in great britain. several years ago, and they grow marijuana is uniformly produced on cable's in giant greenhouses the of lighting systems that use natural iced and shoppers to close the process and bring the darkness and they have these tables and tables and warehouses of marijuana plants and the extract the system similarly in of the same way that a similar
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idea to the cannabis oil that is being produced and then produce it in to a medicine to become madison u.s prieta ireton and it's absorbed. they've done a great research and have a great product. the only perlo i have with this is sometimes i worry they want to rely on prohibition to maintain the market monopoly and the government wants to use that to maintain prohibition. they are going to say you don't need your medical marijuana we have a pharmaceutical product that costs 100 times what it would cost to get a product that has been reduced in your community and tested in your community. this is the only way you can get your cannabinoid. i welcome them to produce the product because there are people that are going to want a more pharmaceutical product to use
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and they will want to make sure they can avoid the cycle activity, but we don't need it. we are doing really well here. luckily we have testing labs that test for potency levels and contamination. we have people who've developed their own sprays can, we have hills, we have capsules, we have food, so i'm glad they've done the research and i do not begrudge them the marketplace but i don't want them to have a monopoly by the prohibition. estimate by medical marijuana user for chronic pain, and it just works sometimes when the opioids don't. you didn't talk much about pain reasons but why is the efficacy, why does it happen if it is psychosomatic? what is going on with the pain control? >> i can't go into debt to about that, but it is not psychosomatic.
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that is a lot of opponents were saying about it before we knew about the come have a light system and that works on a broad range of illness. they are getting high and for getting the feel bad. no, it has powerful anti-inflammatory activities. it seems to work in some fashion on the chemistry of the nervous, and again, dr. abrams did a study of the interaction of the cannabinoid and found that there is a putin ghs the opiate affect on pnac that is beyond what to expect from this interaction and in other words there is a dynamic of really ups the response and can lower. the opiates don't work so well in the narrow path it came to the cannabinoids deutsch. so why can't tell you exactly the chemistry of it, but it does work for signaling. the signaling system in vain
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information. >> you talk about the impact. i know several the majority of their friends [inaudible] would have this? is it dangerous? >> it's not dangerous for them in terms of toxicity. the point that i make, norman mailer had a great quote. this is paraphrased. i always tell my kids marijuana is great for making associations with the brain to think about having great ideas, but fill your brain with things to think about before you start using marijuana and that is a problem with young people they started using it regularly they will get in a cul-de-sac and this opportunity is to develop skills to find all over the interests lie to develop the skills within
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these interests to create a career, and that is the concern. if youngsters are using it occasionally getting good grades, if they are active and have interest, i don't think it is a tragedy. it's not like alcohol. it doesn't cause any survive in paramount other than the hi any variation -- inebriation. but i say young people should stay away because they are not mature enough to regulate their own views frequently. i think that we need to have a conversation with them. instead, part of the problem is if you tell them it is dangerous and it is horrible, don't use it because it is going to cause damage they see that it doesn't. but i think if we start to talk and have a conversation about what it really does and why the good reasons are that they should wait, then y
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