it is fiction. i decided that not only would i work by studying obama as a president, his behavior and looking into his past but try to move -- do more contextual analysis of the book. i spent a lot of time reading the book, not only difference that ways from one scene to another, things i thought were blind spots in the book but were left out. a lot of times i thought something was left out and three pages later i thought it was and it was left out. what i decided to do was look very closely at the he is and who he thinks he is and what his efforts are to understand himself. >> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >> an interview conducted georgetown university as part of

booktv's college university professor maurice jackson talked about anthony benezet. >> joy in this is professor maurice jackson of georgetown university. he is the author of this book "let this voice be heard: anthony benezet, father of atlantic abolitionism". who was he? >> thank you for having me. anthony benezet was born in france in 1713. given non catholics some religious freedom. and the protestant huge nose were forced to leave. the family was a prominent

family. the story of leaving france and going to the border. and they tried to stop him. in this and i have a pouch of money and in this and a pistol. and fled france that way and went to england for some years and remarkably this has been a steady at the same school learning english as his hotel. the greek hotel was far from a religious tolerance as you can imagine. and a great abundance of material, and what the quakers are too.

and because of the huge no oppression because his family had been members of something -- mountain revolutionaries, and something else, the quakers, for many years his family understood the nature of freedom and oppression. came to england with a great knowledge of the world already. in 1731, came to the united states and england seven years. and wanted to end, this is where he became a successful businessman. the young anthony benezet was of slight build. he had no interest in the buying

and selling of goods. can use multilingual, it became a teacher. he formally -- he had done to agree clergy in england and came to america but had not joined per share. the quakers were like the black church. they sedna dorr three times you are automatically a member. he became a quaker and started teaching at a school for girls. why did he become a quaker? there were certain ideas that had tremendous impact and one was the notion that regarded a human being. i don't have to preach the word of god. i can get myself. one does not inherit the sins of the father.

a slave did not inherit slavery. as we have known by other early philosophers. slavery as a condition to be born in. the idea of slavery being imposed upon those -- did not believe in natural slavery. the idea of excessive wealth. the other one we know best from quakers in america of the peace principle, the fighting of our choosing so he had been upset and from that he walks the world in definitely seeing a black man in gary wilson and boys in chains and found something in common with them so made his life to free these blacks and at the same time eight years after starting in material school he studied -- started teaching boys and girls in his home in his extra time with extra money and

became a phenomenal individual. >> how widespread was slavery in philadelphia in the 1730s and 40s? >> it is not as widespread but there were slaves. benjamin franklin owned slaves. there were about 3,000. over time. the nation's crops were not as cold. you had a large white work force and therefore slavery may not be as much but they were slaves then. i should tell you that people identify the quakers always against slavery and it is not the case. along time even in a place that did not have slavery as abundant as philadelphia. made the first suggestion in -- a protest against slavery over

100 years later. this is what would happen. someone would own a slave. we pass a resolution that says people should get rid of the slaves. go back next year and say -- i am not economic labor. the quakers didn't want to be selling those. they fought against slavery. the great benjamin way had come -- and barbados in 1731. big event happened in 1739 going into a church and a great broad coat and under it, i stabbed myself just as you did these

slaves and came out in the blood. he kidnapped a young white girl. he was quite the eccentric. in a cave. didn't hurt him and wanted the white to know what it felt like if your child was kidnapped. there were other actions of people. the next big action came in 1748. that is when the great john woman -- ruleman traveled throughout the country and invented something called the kissel. e kissel. epist epistle. quakers in philadelphia would have to send their ideas to england. they would write something but it was no good until the english quakers sent back and said it is

okay. they had to go through the english church. in 1748 there was a one step. not much. in 1750 ten years later they found a path against slavery and the man is made and he said ethiopia should sins stretch your hands to solve twenty-third. famous stone in most churches and clear the day and it passes resolution. a couple years later in 1770, his first real antislavery pamphlet. became known throughout the united world and all over by his writing against slavery. you get three components. the quaker religion and philosophy. in the 1750s and 60s there was a branch of enlightenment philosophy in scotland.

we know of adam smith and francis hutcheson and george wallace. not our george wallace. he used the philosophy because they took from that -- what they did was the notion that no one could hold another person -- john locke said a person's property -- with this philosophy did was say no. you do not have the right to hold any human being so used -- also they had the right to revolt. the big question became whether these people were human beings. from scottish philosophy to the study of africa they started reading everything they could. several things. slave traders -- not one would say how could you read what a slave trader would say and coffins and like my grandmother

said, what he did was read not just slave traders the people going to the royal africa company or prince nautical company and some of those real vividly about the flora and fauna of africa. adamson wrote where about when, and like utopia. another one, they were in the hot people and they were muslims and noticed they would get religion if they were muslims in the north. and studying the different -- they were not just one act. they were religious people all over but then he saw one thing that came over quickly. africans did not produce what they didn't need. there's no compound of relations

or capitalism. the original quaker idea of the very wealthy. you produce what you need so they have a lot of time but also worked. something by studying africa, they were indeed human beings and in the beginning he wrote we must ask who were the greatest africans and it is the europeans. to take people from their continent. the tremendous idea of bringing these pamphlets and corresponding with patrick henry. give me liberty or give me death. and wrote him back. i thank you. this is a revealing. i agree with everything you say but how will my children survive? this was another message. some people who were against it

could not do it because of self benefit. tremendous influence on benjamin franklin. benjamin franklin is the greatest self-made american, became not millionaire, he owned slaves and had taken them -- serve as american emissary in france and he had these slaves and wrote something out of the basin's -- what he wrote was every slave is by nature a thief. he kept revising and high went to 30 editions to find what he changed. in the british edition of this he had almost every slave is made by the nature of slavery. a big difference. slavery has made you a fee of.

convince franklin and franklin eventually becomes the second president -- the founder of american medicine, as many others took their sons studying europe for this enlightenment and study of medicine. came back and became -- not very much anti slavery at first. he wanted done anonymously but it lifted because he was afraid he would lose his business so he drew up the a domestic franklin with tremendous impact on others. john wesley, founder of methodism and in 1784, a way of overcoming slavery and when he

wrote this passage i took almost everything from that -- from anthony benezet. he wrote anthony benezet and apologized for taking what he wrote and anthony benezet set i am happy for you to use it. no intellectual property laws in those days. and the founder of anti slavery in england in the somerset case. it was basically the idea that any time a free man or slave steps in free territory becomes free. they did that in england. and pamphlets were given to every member of parliament and not to many other impacts. they felt this meant if they ran from virginia to massachusetts they would be free but it didn't

work. they started applying -- wasn't a true read. then he had a tremendous influence on people in france. the first time the french and british came together. in places like that so they were becoming -- at one point of a must have made about freeing the slaves but never did or the society that is born with the idea of freeing the slaves. and hated those who brought about the haitian revolution in 1791. the idea that anthony benezet put forward. >> is anthony benezet known at all today? where is his legacy?

>> 300 years. one reason i decided to write this book. i mainly saw it at first with blacks. w. e. b. du bois wrote about him in his thesis on africa. and wrote about him -- the first urban study and probably anthony benezet, passed to educate and became the first -- and another person you may know is the author of one of the first books about blacks in the 1780s. he let that -- 15 or so, si anthony benezet -- kidnapped so young and started reading so

started reading and getting ideas. co-founder of african-american history month, his first edition. in the second edition he prints the e epistles -- they were white people out there so the name anthony benezet pops up everywhere but we don't really see it so i decided to put all these things and write this book. i am working with that and they will be a big celebration to honor him in his home town. there will be events in philadelphia and reprints of this book because it shows that abraham lincoln wasn't the first person who spoke for black people's freedom. we celebrate the emancipation proclamation but it connell goes so far and before him there were others and there were people like franklin and benjamin rush

and anthony benezet and many others who took the ideas of these people and they deserve a great response and we see them talk about films made about him and discussions and taken out this name every now and then. benjamin rush said it best. anthony benezet started fighting in philadelphia, there were only a handful and now three quarters with him. in later points, 1840s and 1850s james borden was a great and i slavery leader and praised him at the black conventions. his book semicircle was one of the first in reconstruction's school. it was reprinted again and again during the heyday of the black power movement in the 1970s by

new york times print. these ideas are coming back and discussion of great people like this. americans sometimes forget the beauty of those who made the sacrifice. we think only about the big bankers but it took people like this. probably the system of educating blacks must be attributed in the school for african people in the 1770s and indicated hundreds of people and they went out and became teachers. it was the first time on a massive level this was done. >> what is your background? where did you go to school? >> in newport news virginia. went to school and went to work in a shipyard for a couple years. didn't want to get drafted so i

went back to school and ended up at antioch college and went to graduate school in the 90s. went back to graduate school and started working and was lucky to get a job here and teach at anti slavery in the eighteenth century. with lucky enough to work on other books like the nation's revolution. this project i am fortunate to have a solution that woodrow wilson -- the history of african-american people in washington d.c.. the back to the 1780s when washington's first -- when people come because they are running from the railroad and the debate about how washington became himself in the beginning and looking at the law then things created but also in 1808 a slave code that exists in

washington by early, free blacks. i'm looking at the whole history of blacks in the city and the great accomplishments and failures and many people -- one school in washington which from 1870 to 1954 was the biggest institution of the black indicated in the country. i could write a book on that. charles man who invented blood plasma. >> host: we're talking to maurice jackson, author of "let this voice be heard" and associate prof. of history at the university. thanks for your time. >> for the republican national convention having wrapped up in tampa on thursday democrats will gather for their convention in charlotte, north carolina next week. watch c-span for live

gavel-to-gavel coverage by massachusetts candidate elizabeth warren, bill clinton, michele obama and king and addressed by san antonio mayor william casserole. watch every speech on c-span. here on c-span2 booktv will continue all day every day next week with highlights with nonfiction authors and books from the past year. on c-span324 hours of american history tv with lectures, oral histories and historical american sites and artifacts. >> spend the weekend in ohio's state capital, mess as booktv, american history tv and c-span local content vehicle look behind the scenes at the history of literary life of ohio and largest city on booktv on c-span2. browse the rare book collection at ohio state university. >> ulysses was published between march of 1918 and december of 1920 in an american periodical

called the little review and we have copies of those as well. i brought this up today not so much to show you this first edition but to show you a later edition of ulysses that is extremely rare. 1921 the american government declared ulysses obscene and pornographic and the book was banned. people still wanted to read it and we have a copy of one of the pirated editions. if you notice the fines, alice in wonderland and the little minister. >> throughout the weekend and saturday at noon eastern literary life in columbus, ohio with booktv and c-span local content vehicles on c-span2. >> we want to introduce you to michele fitzgerald, associate director of marketing and publicity at palgrave macmillan publishers. we want to learn about upcoming titles for fall of 2012. let's start with former

president of france. >> we have a new book my life in politics coming out this fall. it was originally published in french and this is the first time it will be available in english and has a new forward by the president that details the history of u.s./french relations. it is a warm and candid memoir. he talks openly about growing up in france during and after world war ii, his time in algeria, his political career and his vision for the future of france and europe as a whole. >> will be detouring the u.s.? >> he will not. he is under the weather at the moment so he will be doing interviews remotely from france and can travel. israel is our most controversial book on the list this season which makes it fun to work on. he is deputy speaker of the connected in israel and what people referred to as a republican israeli leader. he details that the u.s. and israel have had a strong close

relationship but the u.s. really focuses on their own concerns and for israel to prosper in the future they need to do the same. >> what kind of books does all brave macmillan look for? >> we are a publisher of nonfiction. a global publisher. we look to publish books that focus on all sides of the debate. we want to contribute to the dialogue. we publish a wide range of ideas as long as they are thoughtful and well argued. >> another author with a book coming out is john watkins. >> free market revolution. this comes from the executive director of the i plan institute and they really argue for the u.s. to pull themselves off the brink of the economic crisis we should revert back to the libertarian principles of ayn a ra

rand. and editor and reporter--the largest spanish-language daily newspaper in the u.s. and works on a book called killing the american dream which argue anti-immigration policies in the u.s. saying we are not only reporting ourselves economically by losing contributions to social security and income tax but we will experience a brain drain. >> if this book published simultaneously in english and spanish? >> an english-language publisher. we won't be punishing it -- publishing it in spanish as well. >> talking to michele fitzgerald. we are at book expo america which is the book publishing industry annual convention in new york city. >> coming up on booktv in a few moments nancy gibbs and michael duffy on their book examining

the relationship between sitting american presidents and their predecessors. and thomas edison's proposal for overhauling the u.s. monetary system after world war i and jamal joseph recounts his life as a member of the black panther party in the 1960s and 70s. >> john kennedy met with earl macmillan, the british prime minister. they discuss arms control or whenever. issues between the two powers. they sure did but only long afterwards did we get the notes on what they said to meet other in private. kennedy spent a lot of time complaining about that press coverage. the press was being tough on jackie and other things and macmillan was a generation older. why do you care? portion of. doesn't matter. you have a bit things to worry about and kenny said that is the -- kennedy said that is easy for you to say. one of the press that your wife

was a drunk? mcmillan replied i would simply say you should have seen your mother. it is the kind of thing that later on -- gives you an idea what these people are like. >> historians and biographers use the advantage of hindsight to understand their subjects through a prism of time. sunday your questions, calls little e-mails and cleans on the lives of presidents and wars hot and cold. in depth at noon eastern on c-span2's booktv. now on booktv nancy gibbs and michael duffy report on the relationships between sitting american presidents and predecessors. and shifting allegiancess, one week's supporter and next week's critic. this