>> poetry, religious books. >> we have quite a few exemplars of poetry running the span of at least two centuries so we have walt whitman and we have allen ginsburg. we really try to be very clear that poetry has been an impressive part of america's history and that americans have been very committed to both writing and reading poetry and i think that continues today. ..

and 30 years ago today you cannot keep me away. i ron to work every morning and i think that working here and being here surrounded by books, manuscripts, musical scores, movies, the whole gamut of what is knowledge and america is such a thrill and privilege that you are really going to have trouble getting me to retire. >> is this exhibit open to the public? >> it is entirely open to the public. will be open through the end of september. but let's say you can't come to

washington. we have a virtual version of the exhibit on the web site, and part of this exhibit, part of this conversation is an open website where we are asking people from all over the world to comment on the books we've selected, but also to tell us why you think something we select it shouldn't be on the list and even more important why something you think should be on the list should be added to the list and we want to hear from you. so far we have heard from over 5,000 people, and we encourage everybody to go to our web site, www.loc.gov/bookfest, and you'll find the list of books, you'll also find the opportunity to complete a very brief form telling us what you think of the books and what should be on the list. >> roberta shaffer the last but you have one here was 2006. >> with kind of decided to put a

cut off on it. we thought if we are going to be looking at books that shaped america we have to give them an opportunity, give folks an opportunity to encourage their work in shaping america. as of this is a endeavor by the library of congress. we intend to keep looking at books that keep shaping america but we thought about a decade that is a good place to stop but since we are in a 2012 now we stopped at 200 to and we will keep revisiting it. >> the later books you have been here from 1987 and cesar chavez, 2002. >> they are. and this book had a huge influence. we talked about that earlier on the aids research and raising our consciousness about that terrible disease. cesar chavez of course a leading voice, farmworker but a voice of america. >> so these folks in the exhibit for the best sellers in their

time? >> many of the more best sellers and continue to be and have not gone out of print. even though that wasn't a specific criterium it's been translated and carried american ideals across the world. >> i want to ask about another specific and that is emily dickinson's book of poetry. >> of course mlb is a must have american poet. but the particular book that we have here in the show is an art book done by a cooperative in cuba and the every produced the book of poetry and they've also made a facsimile of her house in amherst and of little tree made out of recycled material. emily dickinson of course is a phenomenal poet but we didn't know about her were discovered her until the mid 1950's when we finally were able to see her poems and read and loved her poems and edited.

>> who is doing the editing? >> those professional eda terse like to take their pen and need to conform so for emily's of all people. >> roberta shaffer assistant librarian at the library of congress. books that sheep america is the name of the exhibit library of congress is located at first and independence aven in washington, d.c. rediker us from the nation's capital. >> so that's the library of congress'' books that she committed a visit and it's available to see. you can also look at it online at www.loc.gov. but we would like your input. what books to you think should be included in such an exhibit and what books shouldn't? if you would like to participate in an on-line discussion with roberta shaffer, associate librarian at the library of congress, one that we will air on book tv, we'd like to hear from you. e-mail us at booktv@c-span.org. up next on book tv, carl

bogus recalls a personal and professional life of political commentator william f. buckley jr.. the author examines mr. buckley's efforts to shape the conservative movement in the 1950's and his lasting impact on conservative leaders like ronald reagan. it's about 45 minutes. >> thank you all for coming to books and books shot and killed supporting peery [applause] >> we have a very special guest here for you today. he's a professor at roger williams university. he spoke in front of congress and his writings have been published in the nation, usa today and the "boston globe" and he is here to discuss the latest book, "buckley." please help me in welcoming mr. carl bogus. [applause] >> thank you very much. good evening. a pleasure to talk to you today about william f. buckley, and

maybe most speakers don't begin by telling you their political affiliation, but i think that that's important and necessary. i happen to be a liberal, and i know i'm speaking about conservative icon and a figure that is beloved to millions of people, so i think it's important that i confess my apostasy first. i happen to admire bulkeley tremendously in many ways, but i also disagree with many of his or jews and that may come through. but i want to be up front with you about that. historians debate whether history is made by individuals or by structural forces. if george washington didn't happen to have lived or james

madison or abraham lincoln, the united states exist and if it did, what they be the same country that we know it to be? what other people have come forth and fill their shoes and do what they did or would things be remarkably different. the question is if william f. buckley jr. had not left, but conservatism be what it is today or would it be different, would there have been a conservative movement, had there been a conservative movement would it have achieved the same success that it has achieved? i'm going to put that question aside for a moment and try to circle back to it later. let's start with who was buckley

he had 16 different careers. he did things that would have been -- would have filled the career of six people and made them all incredibly successful. start with the fact he was a syndicated columnist. he wrote for many years until up until he died a column called on the right coming and was published three times a week in 350 newspapers. he was one of the most widely read columnists in the country. he produced in the course of his life 5,600 columns. if we just took his newspaper columns and published them in book form they would fill 28 volumes the size. he did this extraordinarily well. he won the best columnist of the year award in 1967 and so i suggest if he had just been a

syndicated columnist he would have been enormously successful and enormously influential. but he also wrote 56 books. six of those books have to be collections of magazine articles and speeches that that we've still 50 additional books. most of politics that he wrote about all kind of other things. he wrote a very successful series. he wrote about sailing across the oceans and in addition to the spokesman many of which were national best sellers. he published countless magazine articles not only in his own magazine national bureau, but in magazines that pride themselves on publishing the very best literature the new yorker and the esquire and many other. he won the best mystery for

paperback one year. he won the thomas and travel journalism award for the best travel article 1 year. if he had just done that it would have been -- it would have made a very successful career. he was a public speaker. he was probably the most sought after or certainly one of the most sought out public speakers in the united states and that is how he delivered 70 -- he averaged 70 talks a year. and he did this in large part to raise extra revenue to help support his magazine nationally. he was a television host, firing line. he did this from 1967 until 1999. he still holds the record welcome fire line holds the record of being the show, the longest running show with a single host a history.

he won an emmy award for outstanding achievement and if he had just on the television show for 33 years successful, it would have been an enormous accomplishment. now i come to his single accomplishment he founded the "national review" magazine in 1955. he edited until 1990 she maintained the legal control until 1999 and probably many of you know the "national review" by weekly or semi monthly conservative journal of opinion is probably the most influential opinion journal in the united states on the left or the right, and was a vehicle for defining,

redefining conservatism in the 50's and 60's and creating the conservative movement. it's still an enormously influential magazine. he was a man of extraordinary with and charm and those of you that remember him probably remember this, he had charisma, he did things that no one else thought of doing. let me take you back in time to the 1965 he happened to fit among all of these other things running for the mayor of new york. he ran for the mayor of new york and the conservative party ticket for two reasons. one was to communicate conservative ideas to a wide audience not just intellectuals that read opinion magazines and watch the highbrow shows that to the wide audience he also did it to extinguish the political

career of a rising liberal republican. he believed that lindsey was a dashing and handsome rising star in the republican party. he was a liberal and he hadn't had a very goldwater in 1964 for the conservatives. there was a battle raging for the heart of the republican party, and buckley hoped that by running on the conservative party line he would train enough republican votes away from lindsey to defeat him. let me take you back to his first press conference and free to use some excerpts from his first. the conservative party has persuaded him to be a standard bearer to run for money.

they are introducing him to the public for the first time and this is how the press conference proceeds. do you want to be mayor, sir? bulkeley, i've never considered it. [laughter] now you can imagine the conservative party official standing there aghast. this is their candidate. what is he doing? to you think that is something that should be considered? buckley, not necessarily. what is important is that certain points of view should prevail whether you administer those as material to be assuming you are a good bet minister. reporter, but you are asking people to vote for you. if you when will you serve? buckley pauses as if he is considering the question for the first time.

if he elected, will serve, he says. reporter. do you think you have a chance of winning here? bulkeley, no. [laughter] reporter, how many votes do you expect to get conservatively speaking? buckley, conservatively speaking, one. [laughter] the week later another reporter asked what would do if you do win and he said demand a recount. [laughter] the conservative party officials have been horrified, but from that first moment buckley galvanized the attention of many people. here was almost an oxymoron, and honest politician. someone who felt that running

for office expressing ideas was more important than winning. let me take you a little bit further back in time to 1951. i take 1951 because it is when bulkeley first became famous. a 26-year-old recent graduate of yale he wrote a book called god and needed yale in which he excoriated his all modern. the book became -- of was all about the economics and religion department at yale and with the various professors are teaching in various classrooms and what textbooks they were using who would have predicted this would have become a best seller? it did become a best seller. and that period and 51 he writes dhaka and made it yale and in 55 he founded the "national

review." young man. let me go back in time. conservatism had been given up as dead and buried by lots of people. the liberal candidates for president. the liberal candidate for president captured the republican nomination in the past four presidential cycles. wendell willkie in 1940, thomas dewey in 44 and 48 commander dwight d. eisenhower 52. many people forget that dwight eisenhower described himself and 52 as a moderate republican and also as a liberal republican and many people thought that conservatism was irrelevant. it had been vanquished, everybody was and buckley i

suggest to you change it. transformed it buckley was at the political philosopher. his ideas were not his own. many of them are inherited from his father who was influential and borrowed from other thinkers. but buckley was a brilliant polemicist. he was also an extremely gifted leader, and as a gifted leader

knows, building a movement is not about personal glory, it is about creating an army. you can think of buckley i think as the conductor and orchestra. he didn't like the music, he didn't play the instrument but he decided what was going to be plebeian who was going to play it. he decided who to invite into the orchestra and not. he decided to expel from the orchestra. he made all of these strategic decisions, and he was extremely good at. what did he create? i will tell you what he created but it will not surprise you because it is what we have come to associate with conservatism. it's not a surprise we have become used to it, so used to it we tend to think it is all this way. but it was the conservatism as it is today, and buckley created

it this way. it is a three legged stool sitting on what for italianism come out today we would call neo conservatism and religious or social conservatism. we think of it as a three different philosophies with three different groups if you will. buckley happened to actually embrace all three within his presence. he may not have been the purest of the pure in any one of the three because there are many inconsistencies and incompatibilities among the schools of thought but he was largely all three of these things. and by libertarianism, the philosophy that says the right to live your life we all have the right to live our lives as we choose as long as we do not infringe on the equal rights of others.

this idea of not being coerced particularly by government and why anybody, being a free leads many libertarians to a very pure absolute laissez-faire philosophy. there should be little or no government regulation of business. in fact very little government, and the musician who bulkeley -- using this metaphorically, the editor that buckley recruited for the "national review" was the leader of the libertarian philosophy when the "national review" is a fellow named frank neyer and he believed as many libertarians do that the government has legitimate functions. one is to protect citizens against violent results whether it is invasion from abroad or

criminals domestically and to add a conflict particularly to agitate the commercial conflicts so that the economy can keep coming and nothing else. the government should be very small and very weak. neoconservatism, that didn't exist back in 1955. but ideas that we would come to call neoconservatives for starting up. what i mean by neoconservatism, earlier irving kristol gave us the famous description he said the neoconservatives is a liberal mugged by reality and what he meant was look, the world is a dangerous place, it's a hard place. there are bad people and that

country's. you can't be naive and coddle. domestically you can't coddle people are criminals. you can't call the poor. they have tough love. make them stand on their feet. and the musician buckwheat's invited into the "national review" who was the prudhoe neoconservative many called him the first neoconservative. that term didn't exist check then come he was the expert in foreign policy for the "national review." now throughout the cold war, american strategic doctrine articulated by all presidents democratic and republican was containment philosophy. he said that is tenet and weekend he advocated the

fullback. we have to roll back communism through the clandestine operations and some version and stimulating the revolutions within the communist bloc and more. about we have to not shirk from confronting them militarily. they will back off. then third is just conservatism and social conservatism and by that i mean finding religion central to political views not as a source of inspiration that is given guidance with policy. let me read two sentences that buckley wrote in god and the yale when he was 26 in 1921 would. he said, quote, i myself believe

the duel between christianity and atheism is the most important. i further believe that the struggle between individualism and collectivism is the same struggle with reproduced on another level. so what he is saying is there is a struggle, but, struggle between christianity and 80 is someone and whether it is on the international stage between the west and communism, socialist systems, collected systems or whether it is even domestically between the individual viewpoints and the collective that that itself is tied in the

struggle between good and evil will that christianity in good is on the side of a particular political philosophy. now what, what it's a complicated story were as to how bulkeley got one with these particular views and how he got them to triumph and the book goes through a series of things that he did. i think that i believe that he wasn't a conscious strategic thinker, he was an intuitive but brilliant in his intuition as to what to do, and i just have a few minutes left and i want to

suggest one of the competing philosophies that he prevailed over because back in the 50's there were other people saying conservatism and the other directions. it wasn't just buckley and the national review's. this is the path to follow and one of the most interesting alternative approaches was offered by a group by for a particular individuals who were then called the new conservatives and their followers of the philosophy of edmund burke the great 18th-century statesman who argued we should honor traditions and institutions and we should honor them because they have developed for particular evolutionary reasons. was almost a bar when view of how the societies developed. we have institutions and

traditions very important to our society and they have come to be the way they are because they come to work. we don't always understand exactly what they do and how they do and how they work. but wisdom is the product of experience, and wisdom has been impressed into these institutions. now, burke is frequently misunderstood as the status quo. not so, he was a reformer and he argued the paradoxically preservation required change. i could go on and talk a lot more about the philosophy but suffice it to say it was entirely incompatible with buckley. they believed in community. libertarians for individuals that believed in individualism.

they disagree about liberty will as i've already alluded to. libertarians believe that liberty is about being free from conversion. they believe that, but they also believed that meaningful liberty also requires certain opportunities that you can't particularly in our society really pursue your dream and have true liberty and freedom to pursue dreams unless you have certain minimums in terms of opportunities. think of education, basic education, nutrition and other things, parts of the communities libertarians believe what. burke believes that a strong government is necessarily to preserve order and liberty the strength of the government is necessary. the czech on consolidated power is the structural separation of powers federalism and other things it's not small and weak

government which they consider to be dangerous weakness. now with their work as i mentioned there were four major individually formidable figures who are advocating the approach quaker who was a historian and critic called conservatives and we visited in 1949 and was a sociologist named robert, the quest for community in 1953 when and stands for he believed human beings find seeking and community. there was a new political scientist at cornell blamed to the canadian had conservatism in america 1955 if you read these books today you can find a

compelling work these four great writers and great thinkers but the most important was a fellow named russell kirk come and russell kirk was in many ways but was likely because of the very early age and his case, 35-years-old assistant professor of what is now michigan state, the conservative mind from work to eliot. and again and is unlikely that such a book would become such a sensation but when it caught the attention of certain editors of "time" magazine and they bore high for the fourth of july edition and the book took off

one. kirker argued that burke is the true school of conservative thought and argued that libertarians were materialistic and it was what he called the permanent things religion and tradition community art, literature. and he argued that one of his phrases was coming you know, everything isn't about getting another piece of the pie and another pound of butter were it was about more important things than just economic growth and he was very opposed to libertarians and he was attacked by buckley and other libertarians quite passionately wpm and personally and then buckley will i'm found

in the magazine will and this fellow was a potential major competitor and he decided to recruit him for the magazine when america was in the conservative mind, pardon me, the conservative - such a big hit he did a rationing and that is he quit his day job and he decided he was granted be an independent public intellectual coming and he found that tough going to buy less than scraping by whom and buckley made a pilgrimage up to what costa michigan, tiny little place and met with kirk and said to kirk i'd like you to join the "national review" and he showed

buckley being a dashing him some charming who -- charming guy. he showed his library and buckley says this is a wonderful library. they write for that "national review" and buckley says i'd like you to write a column on educational policy to be called from the academy. so educational policy is a subject jeered towards russell kirk's important subject but i suggest the battle of the future for conservatism wasn't going to be decided over educational policy. and then kirk saw the masthead and there he was caught frank mayer and other libertarians he picks up the phone and he calls buckley and his outrage.

he says i will not be the cheek by jowl libertarians. take me off the map had. take me off of the masthead. as a, buckley was taken off the masthead. but nevertheless, he agrees to write this column and he does, he writes this column from the academy. he wrote this for 25 years but his criticism of libertarianism. after he quit "national review" in 1981 the following year he resumed his slashing critique of libertarianism the battle had had been over many years before that. many years before that. and for other reasons why clinton rosner and peter barrett left the field of the battle as well failed to criticizing each other and they never cohered if

you can't take afraid the heat get out of the kitchen and they were backed by conservatives and he went on to be treated to poetry and won the pulitzer prize in poetry one year and the clinton appeared back to being an academic and a robber to did continue to write many years also took a very long hiatus and went to a university administration here's the irony on this, so the book ends were communitarians who never acted together who never from the community buckley was an individualist who form the community national radio and that community became a growing

vibrant community it wasn't just a community of the thinkers and writers but leaders want look forward to getting this magazine and they felt part of something, part of something new and something dynamic and they look up to buckley to people in the magazine there had no william f. buckley jr.. conservatism wouldn't be the way we think of it today. i can't tell you what it would be and nobody can do alternative history how history turned out differently. but i do believe if the conservatism became what we would consider it to be because buckley took it that way we because he was a person that many people particularly young people admired and wanted to follow.

thank you. [applause] >> several things that here is one. it's my sense that we are entering the new era of ideological redefinition this may go on for some time but importantly because the success. liberalism and conservatism have both kind of run out of gas to a certain extent. there was to stress for a lot of other reasons. i think there's a lot of searching going on. searching attempt for the redefinition to get i think the tea parties and the occupied movement for symptoms of this and because that is my sense i wanted to take a look at the last time one of these great ideologies went through the process of redefinition >> do you explore in your book

what forces shaped the mentality of this man? >> yes. i do. in fact at great length i believe that it was his father strangely enough. i think it was his father's experiences in mexico during the mexican revolution where his father went off to make his fortune in the oil business, the father developed a particular world view, a particular political philosophy came home and transmitted that to buckley and his his siblings to world war ii did he serve in world war ii or was he writing about god in yale? >> buckley did serve in the army and he did serve in the army and not overseas he didn't

personally see it grow up. yes, sir. >> as is often identified liberal it seems a very fair job i'm to ask about the distinction between burke and libertarianism i am someone i would say is on the right see this lee as an objection to the powerful government libertarian that is something that isn't in a humanitarian and family and religion and groups and is deeply suspicious of government to going beyond the debate would be their legitimate role so i don't see that much of a battle between libertarianism in that

sense and more traditional conservatism. >> well i hear you but i think that most libertarian thinkers would agree with what i read from frank mayer that the government has very small and narrow responsibilities and they believe that that is the essential to preserve the freedom. i have read quite a lot about this in the book and i think also if you look at i don't know, the cato institute on a libertarian think tank said. looking out a particular philosophy but i think lots of libertarians think that way. probably from paul being among them. >> don't you think that they are

mostly opposed to the big government? that's not necessarily a burkian idea that government needs to be powerful accepted forces even the things you talked about the protection of the private property and individual safety. where specifically did they disagree? >> they disagree on many things, with the functions of government is, even on taxes, so this idea that taxes are bad and we should do everything to lower taxes i think is a bit of a libertarian view and has to do with shrinking the government and shrinking the government down to size. thanking. >> can you speak to the situation in the tea party is this the inheritor based upon your observations?

>> i don't know. it's a lot easier to look in the rearview mirror that of the windshield, and i think that actually nobody to look with confidence of the windshield but we do want an awful lot by studying history and it may not tell us exactly where we are going. but it does tell us what may be some of the possibilities are. i have no idea what the future is for the parties or whether there will be the trajectory that continues. i really don't. >> there seems to be a repeat of it and the difference of reality and ideology. even though a lot say about medicare for, the government

saying we have to cut these things and its waste but the whole idea how come people will suffer from ideology and go for somebody that may undermine their survival a lot of people now in this country that are hurting many people that are middle class, many people are unemployed, and yet rather than voting the reality of their survival or their ability to continue functioning on a level that they had to have an ideology that the seventh wash them. >> i believe there are two types of people. there are those that believe there are two types of people and those that don't. [laughter] so, in much the same way i suggest that there are two types of people. there are people that admit they have an ideology, and there are people that have an ideology they don't admit it, and i think

that we all do have an ideology. it's a world view we would not be able to kind of, you know, have ideas without. now, the issue is confronted with particular facts where the fact is trump the dispositions, and that's a separate question. william f. buckley but have said that for him that they did the burkians would have absolutely said that it does because they would have said we are about learning from experience and studying fact suit making a pragmatic decision. robert taft did do that. he did have inclinations. but when he sat down and studied

the data, she would go against his inclinations when the data with him that way. that is the question of whether we have an ideology. it is whether we are aware of it and can consider and be open to and can consider inconvenient facts and we consider -- >> is there an elephant in the room if not religion and politics to follow a format and ideology? is and the elephant in the room and religion and the libertarians that left the government are just on the rule of law but yet passing the law that restricts other people to women's rights and other things, and all of this it seems to me religion and all the politics may also speak to this woman's question why they may vote against their economic self-interest.

>> i think it is an elephant in the room. there may be other elephants or hippopotamuses in the room as well for william f. buckley jr. that his catholicism was that nothing was more influential to him than that and that affected his -- >> a lot of these questions would never be affected by the in reality in the society. >> we have an election year coming up so my question to you -- >> we are in it now. >> right. who is the candidate that you are pushing for in this book? >> we are not pushing for a candidate in the book. >> when i was growing up my first awareness of buckley i always thought he was a country and who delight in taking an opposite point of view no matter what the topic was commander then sort of intellectual the

bullying people on television. and i wondered if in tracing the evolution of the conservative movement back to him with kelso trees back to him this kind of poisonous atmosphere that evolves without his wit and style in the way these things are accomplished. >> that is an excellent and an important question. so, buckley was a very sharp debater and he could lacerate an opponent pretty effectively. on the other hand, he counted among his closest friends ardent liberals, john kenneth galbraith, people whose ideas were anathema to him and they

were friends of his. he gave no quarter in the date, but he was not mean-spirited. he did know where the line was between being very tough and very passionate on an issue and being mean, personally mean. many people who profess to admire him even emulate him, rush limbaugh for example says other than his own father, william f. buckley jr. was the greatest influence in his life. i wish they would learn from him about the whine. anything else?

>> thank you. [applause] book tv is on location here at the annual book publisher publish date a symposium in new york see here on the book tv set is michael, the founder of publishers -- and publishers marketplace and he is going to be talking about some of the upcoming books in the fall of 2012. first of all what are the publishers? >> deer people within the professional book trade that launched a daily newsletter more less everyone that works and come to the to book publishing like the companion web site that has databases that people in the book business used to fight each other every day it has a subscription. there are subscriptions and

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that are letting their first book but we are being taught to either by the publishers were booksellers that we spoke to in the book publishing world as new voices that are the ones to watch and are the constant in pact. >> michael cader you have a wide selection for books, correct? >> we thought was important to make sure that we included the section of what is happening in the book trade and with the readers know is happening in the bookstores. the young adult literature has exploded. it's now being read by teens and also what we saw the adult readers. as a, their too we feature well-known authors like wilbert pray or david but a lot of new discovery voices the publishers think will stand a chance as the next stephanie my ear. >> okay. to put this together you approach the publishers, is that

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eight in this independent house represented along with the giant publishers because we wanted to survey their literary landscape and represent based on the small publishers. stila or the publishers eager to have their books talked about? >> they were eager. i think publishers recognize as the industry has to move talking to its fans and there is nothing that makes a reader more excited than the work itself. they want to meet authors and bea is inviting a thousand passionate readers to the convention this year for the first time and it has occurred to us that we need to kill this bridge between the industry and the readers that keep the industry growing. on the one hand, it helps the industry to do business better. they come to the convention and they have read some of them for themselves so they know what the went to find and which office do

want to talk about to come to their stores but there's a thousand people coming from the outside world that are all going to get their and they share in the excitement. when we were talking to publishers about the idea we said do you mind if we put the regular bookstores, too and they got excited and they said that is where we are all trying to get to by the way of producing an early alert system that the let the readers deal with the summit. estimate michael cader, the web site if the viewers want to download this to their leader what is the website? >> they can find out information about it at publishersmarketplace.com for we have a link to the stores carrying it. they can go to their e-book store and look up the books of 2012. a totally free download. it's on every major ebook platform and many of the minor platforms. we work hard to distributed as widely as possible rather than just go through the two or three big stories people might know

about. estimate and when will that be taken down? when willfully to be taken down? >> the book will be available we can't say on the sale because it's for free until december. it covers books released anywhere from late august through to january of 2013. so, the special value of getting a look at things ahead of the publication should last for many months and talking about it now because the time they took to release it people don't have to read about it. they can enjoy it for months to come here and will give them a preview of books that are still on the way. >> michael cader, at this point to the ebook and sell the books at every threshold? >> not nearly in total. if you look at the industry as a whole, he books provide roughly 25% of the revenue, so that changes all the time. we are the percentage is higher is in those big brand new best sellers. we're often they will comprise more than half of the seals. particularly for