nickname and double blogs coming from world war i. but the best term is underdogs. they were always minority inside the larger defensive the establishment. they always felt to begnd thre persecuted and under threat and siege the single most that important characteristic is nde notion of they don't dofrie everything they can they>> hos will be wiped out. >> host: this the underdogreenfd feeling reinforced in then they marines? >> it is still alive and of well. there are positive elements of that trait that makes them extraordinarily focused, energize come a

cohesive. even today with the prestigious wall presidents don't dare insult them. marines will say we have to take care of our own. and the public stops caring the marinel. p>> corps will cea> to exist. >> host: what you c teach? >> guest: marine corps history, unable history and teaches on afghanistan and civil military relations. >> host: can the midshipmen transition intodo the marine corps? >> they do. procroughly.? it is a competitive selection and process. a num there are more spots but a serv number of marines year inikely o the classroom that give them familiarization with culture. >> host: professor on active duty did you serve on

a ship? >> that is rare. no. it is an exception. 12 of my years were reserve that makes it less likely. >> host: you mentioned you let and rotc is back on campus. is that prohibited any more? to >> it is illegal to preventem but many schools have not brought them back from the 1960's.ale yield just are the airforce and unable program.positive ata. response has been very positive. there was more impetus from the students and the faculty but they did not resist in any way. my old this edition -- dissertation is teaching the class in. >> host: a brand new book, underdog is the

name, then making a of the modern marine corps. professor o'connell is the author. >> u.s. naval academy professor the old army in "war and peace" with the mean by the old army eight? >> it is a term commonly used by historians the indian fighting army, there is a joke it is the army before every war. my book starts with a professional as asian from the war 18 toile end and how the process occurs how that plays in the civil war. >> host: give us a

snapshot of the old army prior to the war between 12 looks like. >> before 1812 is said nonprofessional they obtain their position through political influence and as a consequence because they are not professionals who went through the body of education, and they don't perform very well. washington d.c. is burned attempts to invade canada doesn't go well. there are catastrophes as a great victory. so you have a big movement their needs to be a more systematic way to be

commanders. >> the crucial figure is a wonderful figure be cut as the career begins right through the opening. but jake the ground and other officers will sky is the most important the did gen deficit is to build a professional institution to bring it to the united states. and one was sent on a mission to collect books scott becomes a prominent general and is able to systematize the west point

curriculum in a way that was not the case before. 892. historians still argue about to what thomas jefferson was really after but nobody disagrees rear unclear of the purpose. there is not systematized instruction to this day is more systematic. that is important because that is the army to produce the generals. that is where most of the war generals get their

experience. >> host: the title is west point and the civil war. who are those that we have heard of bubble sides? >> shura men, grant, the, hood, to give a harder member there are few famous non west pointers but to give a sense of the numbers, 2/3 of major generals of the regular army that is dominated. not own the most officers but the height of the focal point*. so to do review boards their views the cadet as a guinea pig and they will have them

march around. west point has the most thorough library available. if we think of the big three, they all know each other from the army. >> host: when it comes to the civil war generals on the self and the north, what does that do to the conflict? >> 4v, the wars are fighting clones of each other because the leadership model are similar i call it the equilibrium of competence. fighting near damages of one

another. sometimes read described as being indecisive. it goes through 1865 and it is a long process because the army starts off with similar institutional models. they both get to much better but and about the same pace. you can still have battlefield decisions but to a lot of times when you see that victory you have to have superior organizational institutions. there are clearly better general's and worst general's.

he cannot quite true the destroy the federal army because they are at such a similar level. >> was one of the goals the end all type of focus? >> that is the hope. >> was that strategy tot? >> this is part of the problem. because of the influence west point* does not have much strategy. how to the junior officers. we don't prepare them to be

admirals and medium the but and sen and second attendant. book that fundamental voting bloc gives them a lot of engineering. the desire comes from a cultural affinity he is like 10 to napoleon and people reading popular history books there are wars there are battles with crash came decisive victory is. that is the model of what most hope to achieve. later it becomes increasingly problematic but

for much of the public there is the desire if you can get to completely destroy your opponents not to inflict more casualties. >> host: what about counter insurgency? who are some of those that broke out of the mold? >> there are gorillas. for union military logistics. but the problem really some of that comes from issues

overseas. it is a mistake to overstate the guerrillas because they can deny a traditional forces, they cannot physically control that terrain. the confederacy does not want to something like syria. that is not what thereafter. there are a variety of reasons for that. some involve slavery as you can see because slaves our property but they are human beings and people to a vague restriction in the way the

property can. it really read does not rely on guerrillas because the end point* is to have the environment of social chaos. i use the anecdote officers have experience of your regular warfare but part of the consequence of the old army is they have a powerful distaste that is controversial. it becomes very frustrating because they find indian villages the are refines this distasteful.

when they get the big four they want to stick to the big battle. at the end of the civil war when it is clear as the call period it can no longer continue the war. to have them keep their muskets that repute sam but everybody knows what he is saying and alexander said if we do that the countryside is filled with chaos. they will lose discipline you can do this but i will

surrender. alexander never mentions the idea again. misery is the most famous example we now call them counter insurgency methods but it the civil war still is predominant. >> between 1812 civil war 1861 did the north or the south have professional armies? >> it is very small but crucial place to see it have been. but the army is over 16,000

officers. its will split is a professional army but the cadres is small. it has to be dispersed again for that reason those early army's learn quickly and learned the hard way that is why they are catapulted to such prominence they are immediately relied on. the irony is the only scott comverse campaign. this is one third of the size much smaller and scott

has the only experience and with the civil war he is too old to take the field. what we would call with major combat operations so there expertise is terribly each efficient. which is better than everybody else had. is a small professional army it cannot be described. >> host: a few teach this book here at the naval academy what do want students to leave with? >> guest: i don't teach it

you don't want to be that professor that tries to sell books but what i tried to get across is the civil war there are times of the collision and the way the country wants to fight and how what happens. the belief in the united states is you down the professional military expertise. good citizens will step forward and will find a way it is they have freedom on their side. so the shortcomings are clear. war and military affairs

issues are incompetents not directly related to even then to bravery. west point is split in position. they have to build it. political aide to be less enthusiastic than political leadership becomes increasingly suspicious they are wedded to the idea we don't need professionals. yes the volunteers do take losses but that is not enough. there is a degree of social

conflict. at least 10 dead case of the north it works out. not just the moral phenomenon but has hard objective expertise. relevant to those who will become professional officers. >> host: at the u.s. naval academy the author of west pointers and the civil war. the old are me of four and peace. on the patient at annapolis mayor led. >> here on un booktv we want to introduce you to author

has written a book how capitalism will save us three market is the answer tell us about yourself and your personal experience with economics. >> i have been a financial journalist but i have been on both sides of the press release. i had my own puerto rico business and among them:authoring books. basically i were with steve forbes conversations led to the idea is. >> i met him many years ago added event of the diversity

of southern california and one thing led to another i started to work at "forbes" in the puerto rico department. >> your practical experience how do you reject that how capitalism will save us? >> when i was at "forbes" i learned a lot about the market. and worked many years ago but working as an entrepreneur you really need to have economic freedom that is something i learned personally. if you just get a paycheck you don't understand how government can affect of

small business and a job creation. that led me to think this is a useful idea for a book. >> host: how do you see the role of government the role of congress in the economy? >> we need government to create a stable environment to function and create jobs. government and its decisions are driven by politics. markets are driven by companies who meet the real world needs of people. you need government to protect us from fraud and from two words. but overly metals some government goes too far and

use the press job creation and. >> the 2008 financial situation and bailout, were you supportive? >> we raise the answer in the book. you could see an ad as an emergency intervention if government would have got now that would have been fine. the comparison is to katrina. then people get back on their feet. the financial crisis will expand to control the economy. >> host: at what point* do you say the government should have stepped out?

>> guest: they did not allow bakes that wanted to pay back the money. they were making it difficult forcing it on those who did not want it. some people have argued to make the point* the bailout was necessary but they went too far and it certainly afterwards the financial crisis was the excuse to over regulate with dodd/frank. >> host: and to be reviewed at freedomfest do you find a lot of opposition to that idea? >> no. that is what this event is about. people understand. with the whole idea you best serve the needs by free

enterprise. they meet the needs of others. that is what it is about. they understand entrepreneurial business to create jobs through innovation. did government and then the automobile? no. [laughter] >> what is it like to write a book with steve forbes? >> a great learning experience like higher education. >> one of the themes we're talking about is the a moralism of capitalism. is that a component? >> that is the next book

coming out the end of august. capitalism is moral because it is about meeting the real world needs of other people. the free-market transaction is a reciprocal exchange each% provides benefit to the other. george talks about it as each side is to the other. capitalism those who believe been big government see the free-market transaction that there is exploitation. each side gets benefits. that may not be ideal but otherwise it would not occur. that is what makes it a benefit to both sides it takes place between the

government. >> host: what is your enthusiasm level for mitt romney? >> i think he will be a very good president. i think he gets it and is moving forward. >> you mentioned in new book coming out? >> three down manifesto. -- freedom manifesto. >> host: also co-written with steve forbes? >> guest: is just a little card. >> we want to show you the current book how capitalism