use marijuana. doinlt think we should put people in jail for it either. >> this is your second book. we did a long forum interview on the first book. you watch it on booktv.org. the premise of the first book? >> the tea party goes to washington, it was about the tea party movement, i think it was the extraordinary movement, probably the biggest movement in happen in forty years. a lot of people showing up. hundreds of thousands of people showed up. it transforms the way we think about this. people request whether or not the law obama is one example whether they were constitutional. >> i don't want to talk about 2012. i'm tired of 2012.

let's talk about the future. 2012 wasn't a very good one for us. we have to figure out a way to appeal to a bigger e welcome or it rate. >> are you running for president? >> that's classified. your clearance is not high enough to hear that. part of the national debate, i think it's too early to make decision. >> "government bullies," the second book by senator rand paul. how everyday americans americans are being harassed. booktv attends a book fair. she signs book for american for tax reform here in washington. the book is "mugged: racial demagoguery from the seventies to obama." this is about twenty minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> how are you? we'll sign it later? >> okay. okay. >> ready? >> yeah.

[inaudible conversations] >> hello. hello. hello. thank you for coming. thank you for writing the book. >> have i met you before -- [inaudible] >> nice to meet you. >> hello. hello. >> nice to meet you. >> gary john soon? no. after wednesday night you have to be -- [inaudible] on that. [inaudible conversations] >> good to see you. aren't you glad i'm not blaming you. i was explaining what i came out -- it's rude to look at the launch in the middle of the interview. it's like a half hour later and you were -- [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] why haven't you -- [inaudible] >> that's great.

i'll be in new york for that. hello. i'll see you later. [inaudible conversations] >> have you read it? >> no. you sent it to us. i know. thank you. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] he changed his e-mail address. you are e-mailing me and you're not e-mailing me back. >> i hnlt planned to say anything. but since i'm late my publishers -- told me it would be polite for me to say something. i want to start off by saying his fault that i was late. that's the most important thing.

it's not my fault. thank you so much for all coming tonight. you won't see anything about the book in my of the mainstream media except the "the view," i love those gals. [laughter] i really, really do love them. everything they were saying is everything believed by "the new york times." "the new york times" is too chicken to argue with me about it. and without sounding like this is paranoia, i never had a book as ignored by the mainstream media as this one. my first book "high crime of mist ya with" i ask see area of morning interviews. this one they won't attack me when i'm not there. which is what they usually do. this one they do not want you to read. it is a emergency book. i wanted to come out before the election goes there. a brief history of racial demagogue i are from the west. and never produced white guilty.

it produced disaster, heart break, crime, death. it has been a disaster for america. most of all for black people, and so the point of it is to say don't fall for white guilt, again, the last time you fell for it in 2008, look what that produced. [laughter] don't fall for it again. don't make the same mistake again. i think it's a fun book to read. most of it will be stories you have never read before. thank you, i'll sign your books now. [applause] [inaudible conversations] thank you are you leaving? >> yeah. >> it's your fault we department get to mingle. [laughter] i have to go back to d.c. that's all i'm getting from

you? [laughter] evaluate h i was telling me friend how i tell the whipper snappers at events you hang on allen's every word. he was the one who was -- [inaudible] and you don't care about that. [laughter] you don't even care. also, we always agree. like when we ran off with -- i think my whole support for kristy was running off the -- [inaudible conversations] i know i'm giving a big head to match his body. >> all right. good to see you guys, thank you for coming. thank you. [inaudible conversations] thanks for coming.

>> hi. how are you? >> [inaudible conversations] he managed to get through "50 shades of grey" at the same time though. do you want a signed. >> for a friend of my. my name is -- write this one to francis. cis? >> c-i-s. >> this is a fun book. i'm looking forward to it. >> it starts with a series of crimes. randall?

r-a-n-d-a-l? >> two l.'s. i think it's more personal. it's like we are friends. >> yeah. i agree. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] she couldn't be here.

she built that. i hope we repeal obamacare for her. that's going to be tough if it goes through. >> this is my lovely -- [inaudible] yeah. only had to correct the history on five years. this corrects the history of on 200 years.

[inaudible conversations] very nice to meet you. no, stay on this side. if you start a trend it takes too long. by the way, my -- a little worse. i was writing while taking the picture. did it come out? i'll find out why get home. this is my -- i'm from new york. i'm so . >> you're going love it! >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> hi. >> hello. >> i have two. one for me one for your aunt. what is your name? >> sydney. s-y-d-n-e-y. [inaudible conversations]

the other for ina. i-n-a. >> keep them moving here. >> hi. [inaudible conversations] >> great. >> hello. >> my name is [inaudible conversations] >> john, nice to meet you. >> yes. oh. [inaudible conversations] in the next few weeks. you know what, i mean? you said your name is john? >> j-o-h-n? >> yes. >> why did you leave oklahoma there's a lot of oil left there? you can't drill it. [laughter] >> we're not allowed.

>> good for you. thank you for your service. thanks for coming. >> yeah. >> thank you so much. >> technically no pictures. >> thank you. hi. you can do it on timing. otherwise people don't know how . >> can you make it out to paul. >> your dad? >> yeah. my books come out before father's cay. ier that a lot. perfect. >> yeah. >> actually my birthday too. >> happy birthday. [inaudible conversations] >> i'm meredith, by the way. >> nice to meet you, meredith. i want to see where you -- i work in the center for public justice? >> what is that? it's a christian organization that works for promoting social justice. >> oh. good for you. >> i'm -- [inaudible]

>> can you put this for richard? >> thank you. thank you. >> who is this for? [inaudible conversations] c-o-l-l-e-n. >> is that? >> you my automate, actually. >> thank you. thank you. nice to meet you. >> hello. what is your name? yeah. yeah. hello, tim.

do you have an accent? >> [inaudible conversations] >> hello. thanks for coming. [inaudible conversations] why. >> halloween is his birthday. are you going give it to them

them? >> [inaudible conversations] >> thank you. last night i saw romney and ryan. that was a thrill. [inaudible conversations] >> what happened to your ankle? >> [inaudible conversations] ? >> take a picture. >> your viewers. a summary of my book that i can do. [inaudible conversations] i would like it if you can -- [inaudible] i bought it a year ago and two -- [inaudible conversations]

absolutely. thank you. thank you very much. and i notice -- [inaudible conversations] [inaudible] just for rick? [inaudible conversations] right after you have written it, and i read your review and i thought maryland do this. this is perfect. you get all the main points. >> i like the book. >> isn't it fun? >> you nailed it. i'm one of those books -- [inaudible conversations] [laughter] [inaudible conversations] oh. it is so nice to meet you.

>> nice to meet you. great meeting you. >> i've tweeted your review. [inaudible conversations] >> she -- she's the one that -- [inaudible conversations] >> yep. so good. >> thank you. yeah. [inaudible conversations] they button there. >> yeah. sorry. thank you. >> huge fan. [inaudible conversations] [laughter] [inaudible conversations] much better when i'm laughing. >> yeah. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] >> hello. nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you too. >> this it for my son. [inaudible conversations]

great to meet you. okay. thank you for coming. [inaudible conversations] yeah. yeah. >> i wanted to thend -- [inaudible] because they are bigger. [inaudible]

[inaudible conversations] that was the famous dog in the speech. [inaudible conversations] >> hello. nice to meet you. >> do you just e-mail? >> just e-mailed you. [inaudible conversations] the american -- [inaudible conversations]

i could have made you stand up and talk. thank you so much. thank you. nice to meet you, logan. >> here i am again. >> hello. >> hello, robin. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] actually lucky they hadn't ran the book. they could ask all the thingings that most people think that are not true. right. >> so i looked at it. [inaudible conversations]

we like to hear from you twitter.com/booktv. this book deals, i think, at the heart with -- looking at the way the economy affects our lives and gets in to our bodies. it's a book that i wrote because i -- body arrived in the desert under particular circumstance in the winter of 1997, when i was

broken and on drugs. i was in mexico city. i had been lucky enough to go around book contract from new york. get an advance from a new york publishers to write a book, it was a dream come true, and in mexico city, november of 1997. i had crossed the deadline. i didn't have a word written. i was broke, and i called the only friend that i could count on at that point because my lifestyle has lead me to destroy a lot of my personal relationships. i called my friend from costa rei can that lived in the united states for many years. i met through the solidarity networking. politics in the 1980s and i said, [inaudible] she happened to be live nghts

village in california. that the particular time. there's a whole set of circumstance that lead her to, you know, she's from the tropics, central america, you know, how did she wind up in the desert. everybody has a story in the desert how they got there. she said, [inaudible] we'll take care of you and give you a place to live shortly there after. i arrive and one of the first things i saw when i rented my shack in the sand next to a sign that said next services 100 miles, the town of 129 presiden. i felt myself to go further out. they are at the edge of beautiful national park. you know that? right. if you haven't been there. u2 album. the joshua tree. you know what it looks like. crazy arms going this way and

that. well, i wanted to go further out. there was something that was driving me further out in to the nothing. the big empty, as they say. and also because the further out you went the rent got cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. i was paying $27 5 a month for a two-bed rom house with five acres of land on the edge of 29 palms, right where the sign said next service 100 miles. that's where the book begins. it begins with a personal crisis and a rising -- it was no accident i arrive in the particular land scam. ultimately the desert has been the site of pilgrim age for me less than ya. and i -- at that particular moment, i don't think i was aware of what i was doing. i didn't say to myself i'm in

big trouble with my life. i must go to the desert. but ultimately that's the space i was entering. and later on i realized that is all the symbolism was there to receive me. and began the process of healing and getting to know the place, which included almost immediately dealing with the fact that i was writing open a landscape that had as many problems as mexico city with drugs. i was coming from a place of addiction, and all of the pain and struggle that goes with that, and arriving in a place where meth was devastating landscape meth labs were exploding. and where young marines were training and doing lots of drugs to escape the terrible reality of their head and bodies. so if i was going a site that carried and gent symbolism of

restoring healing pilgrimage. i was entering a place that was the open silt of that. -- opposite of that. many years after i moved to joshua tree and 29 palms, a few years later, i met my partner angela garcia who happens to be sitting in the audience who teaches at stanford and written a wonderful book about addiction. i met angela far away from the desert. she's from the desert. and that's one of the things, you know, i think i fell for immediately about her. she was a desert girl. a western girl. capital w. from new mexico. from albuquerque in the south valley, and we ended up living in new mexico together while she was doing research for her

dissertation on addiction, she's a medical anthropology at stanford university. shoutout to stanford. we have stanford people renting here tonight. so i followed angela on to another landscape northern new mexico, which i already seen. i had been there a couple of times as a tourist when i was younger. we have seen northern new mexico represented artisticallied a nauseam whether it's, you know, a little, you know, postcard in the car sell, the truck stop, georgia o- kef. how many westerns have we seen that have landscape of -- [inaudible] northern new mexico in particular has a very powerful

draw in terms of the enchanted landscape, indeed that officials nickname of new mexico is land of enchantment. it carries a weigh of new age mysticism with it. and [inaudible] >> you knowy and warm and fuzzy and tends to on secure a complicated more reality. also that's what desert america is about. it's about how we imagine the desert or how the desert has been imagined for us by the created the imagery and the vision of dessert for us that is consumed that is bought and sold. that is the stage upon which real estate ultimately sold and hotel and stay in hotel tourist packages, et. cetera. and how complicated the actual human geography of the place is. it's imagined place and the

lived place. so i'm going take you to northern new mexico briefly here. angela choose northern new mexico. he's from central new mexico, al bee cure key, both of our families have issues with addiction. that was another point of encounter between us. and but she choose northern new mexico i think not be right next door to her family, you know. but close enough so we can visit often. and also because northern new mexico there's a place in the valley runs along highway 68, which ultimately comes out of [inaudible] and goes to [inaudible] if you -- you are going through the valley. the low roa