>> well, this is like the story of creating unaids. what you describe is the entire u.n. system is against you. it's almost an miracle akin to exists. you describe episode after episode where he agency or by a vote that should not have been a rival agency representative from within the u.n. system was sabotaging what you're trying to do. >> certainly from a number of agencies, you were an exception, but she gave me a hard time at the interview, but the rest was fine. [inaudible] >> she says she crossed about the list.

[inaudible] >> winged a microphone. >> that i didn't know. [inaudible] -- by this time i read up on him. i had crossed him off, but i did interview him nevertheless. and of course the rest is history. >> no, that is true. there were several levels, particularly mid-level management where people who tell me will do everything we can to undermine you and make sure this doesn't happen. nakashima was then the director general and basically he thought that in one year time it would

be, how to say we will just kill it, et cetera. too ridiculous to even talk about. when i was writing about it, i said how is this possible? to go beyond personalities, there is indeed an issue in the u.n. system, which is very rich in terms of its diversity and different agencies and everybody is looking for money, fundraising. so there is a lot of turf and all of that going on and i don't think that coordination is actually the solution. but i must also say that probably in dissent aids that we are the most advanced, best integrated. there's nothing that comes close as far as i can see. >> so michel, it's all one happy family now? >> what is difficult is it peter is talking about.

you have a conflict in interest sometimes that people have to fight for their agenda. they have to make sure that are relevant. so to make the coronation of sometimes very difficult. what i'm seeing now is that we managed to be a little bit beyond the agenda, to identify and trace and identify key result areas, which is making a suddenly move collectively together. for example, it's so important to save lives of people means what? to bring people of the center. we are not talking about unicef and others. we start looking at how we can add together. i think that is helping us. at the beginning it was not possible because it was coming

and not understanding that the organization has been created in each organization was fighting their own identity with hiv. so the shop is a very tough one. >> this system is that it's best when it's surrounded very concrete outcome of deliverables and then it can. he just concentrates on process, as is often the case in new york, denison lisa time for everybody. so that is, i think my conclusion. your body language tells me that you agree. [laughter] >> michel, today at this moment, tg 20 liters are probably drinking tequila and they've had a day of accomplishing very little and also at this moment

in rio, they are probably drinking rum and there's very little optimism for that meeting. we are in a moment where everything seems to convict on the euro crisis. the amount of money on the tivo keeps shrinking. the sense of generosity is shrinking and we've seen, since to decimate the financial crisis, ever greater dependency on one sowers, the united states government, which is now i think about 60% of support for international hav effort. what does this mean for you in terms of trying to court may tickle the response? >> i think it's very important. peter said something. he said the world is changing. 10 years ago when we were talking about elements, africa was nowhere.

every office seeks 7%, even highest growth rate for thanking god that 15%. we're not talking about emerging nation, china, presale is a key player in the new global government system. so for me, what is important today is what we are trying to push us to share responsibility, saying the world is changing. the development paradigm we have been using until now. so what we are trying to push a spring and different players. we have been able to work with the chinese and the chinese now are paying for their own is response, which is very important. we have been working with india. india has decided to pay for all

their response mr., so we are seeing south africa increasing to $1.5 billion. so we are seeing the world coming in response to different way so many to push that. we need to make sure of course of a base justice that are the of opportunities because if not, we will not build a ticket. as in san francisco. i met someone there. i said to peter and his $72,000. how that can happen, if we know there's 9 million people waiting for treatment in africa, we need innovation. so i am seeing that what they knew that coming, which is very important. i know peter very well, he was my bios, my mentor, one of the best probably we have.

and this also visited community to not show what it has been able to do for the world because today if we save millions of lives, i want to say that honestly we were no knower 10 years ago when looking for result country by country. why it's not working. today we have almost 7 million people. that is peter. peter moved us from million 2 billion in terms of resource privatization, demonstrating individual select to this indispensable to save lives for people and i want to say thanks to peter for that. >> thank you. that's nice, michel. but when you look at the index of this book, it's only people i met some purpose. why?

because i was maybe different person, anything going wrong anywhere in the world in terms of aids was my personal problem. but what i wanted to show was the same movement and there are so many people contributing, all equally important. it is important is making sure it's not a movement, which sometimes it looks like going to all directions and trying to align the stars. the politics and science in programs on the ground are in harmony or supporting each other and that is going to be very important. now, it is not normal to the global funds for your funded programs in argentina, mexico, chile, china and so on and i was actually basically denying money to the countries that are in the greatest need. there are countries, take

zambia. according to projections that we did by 2030, 50 years after the beginning of the aids epidemic, we require 4% more of its gdp to treat people just on treatment costs. >> if we don't have to go to third line therapy. >> there is no way on earth that can be done without international help. but even poor countries have a budget. so there is in the case for shares solidarity, but also for smarter use of her resources. >> let me ask you about the same question. i want a very quick answers so we have time for the audience. and i despair about to have the international aids conference in the united states for the first time since 1990, in washington d.c. next month. when we are in the most hotly

contested presidential election we've seen and i don't know how long, at this moment most experts you can't call will be the next president of the united states. the last time the aids community convened in washington d.c., they publicly denounced a vice president george bush during the reagan presidency and angered him so much that when he took over as president he said i don't want to hear about this. get out of the room. if there is one message that the american people take from this upcoming conference and you have the ability to wave a magic wand and make it happen as opposed to many other scenarios says to what they very well have been, what with that message be? >> you know, i'm just coming from a listening tour, new york, washington, san francisco,

oakland. i want just to say that it'll be a missed opportunity to not say to americans that they are individual collective effort saved the lives of millions of people and that is not to please them. we can't across party effort to democrats because of a sense of urgency brought by president bush, it is constantly changing all of their response. and then we have president obama grab a bringing the debate to share the responsibility of ownership are just natural movement, which we need to share. that it hoped the same message we will be able to convey because the american people,

individually need to hear that they have been saving lives of millions of people we are making effort to share the burden with other countries now. >> peter. >> on the same lines, i would save taxpayers money has saved millions of lives and has also, i think, improved american image in the world to a large extent. decreasing that effort now is not only going to cost millions of lives because people will die, but also i think would be from a good and smart foreign policy. now let's see how our friend, the biggest problem at the conference may be how do american aids activists going to handle that.

that is i think the biggest challenge. >> it is a good note to take questions from the audience. i ask that you raise your hand and wait until the microphone reaches you and be sure to identify yourself and give us a real question. i see one right down here quick and come down from. robert martin for the rockefeller foundation. >> thank you, laurie. >> would you stand? >> sure. thank you for the book. i flew through it in a few days. i've are authorities going to inspire the next generation. following imac, my first question is what advice do you have for the next generation of global or public health leaders? the second question is at one point in the book, i think it's towards the end when you're leaving unaids coming of something like like an oscar schindler bowman, where you think i could run more or it

could have done things differently. so the question is, if you could go back and redo the last 10 or 15 years, what would you do differently if anything? >> the first advice is one, that the world is becoming a very global please come and so there is future and work in global health. don't plan your career and detailed because he wanted to be boring and you'll miss the great opportunities. i certainly didn't imagine i would ever become a u.n. bureaucrat for discovery by race or whatever, but be prepared. invest in your training and skills from all that you can seize these opportunities. there are many open doors that i dare that people don't go through them, so take some

risks. now what would i have done differently? i think probably politicized aid faster any sense. by that i mean that i started at unaids is quite naïve in thinking that if we have the facts that this would change everything. michel, you need this before i did. of course that was not the case. it should have brought earlier to the big political agenda, that maybe it was not possible. i think that is probably the biggest. i still wonder, could i have accelerated thanks? was also so. but on the one hand i have no patience for things and not the other hand, you have to go through sort things. i really don't know. >> right here, gary.

standup on the police. >> i was so people am standing. so the question, gary colin for both michel and peter. in my more recent travels in sub-saharan africa working with fantastic equal from cdc and elsewhere for fighting this battle, you get the sense that we are at a turning point. out of office quite a tipping point, but the success and cons that given a three generation, use it trt for viral suppression , i'm getting a clear sense of signs of encouragement to impact the endpoint, if you will, could be in sight for the first time, making this a critical time to enjoy that moment is now lost. the first questions as you could get characterization? sacking is what could help drive momentum forward? alternatively, what could rescale? >> i think it's a very good point and you know my optimism.

for me, getting to see her with night vision, searing new infections, zero deaths. of course absolute zero means nothing, but it is a vision for making it more inclusive. taking the decision to say we don't discriminate people based on their race or based on their orientation or social status, it is their decision and we can get it. i see progress every single day. when i decided to push for syrian infections amongst amongst babies by 2015, supporting me very strongly by 2015, we don't need to have tb hiv. this feature and from where work at that.

today we are seeing again i would share this number with you, from last year coming to d.c. or decreased by 100,000, the numbers of babies which were born with hiv last year compared to this year. we are seeing also an increase in numbers of people living in this crisis. we see a new tab showing clearly that if we put people early in treatment, we can reduce by 96% a number of new infections. so for me, i am seeing hope they are. i want to push forward the ideas of getting 20 by knowing it would be multiple serious, but we can be there if we work together. for me, it's time to really bring this approach because it

will be a missed opportunity if we don't do that. >> i agree with the vision that we cannot accept anything less than a cent, but we also need to be prepared for decades of investment, starting with people who are now on antiretroviral therapy. we hope that will last and the effect is for decades with normal life expectancy. so we need to be prepared for that. and i think we are not prepared for it. >> was a rising tide of joke resistance. >> the pipeline of new drugs is drying up and generic manufacturers are pulling out because the prices have become so low that they don't make and admitting to drug for diabetes and cardiovascular disease and the need for even greater in terms of units that can be sold. also in terms of prevention.

we need to have an ambitious vision, but also we should not -- we need to be prepared for longer term. there is kind of a momentum dare, where we see a return of the investments of the past decade basically because these things don't happen overnight. >> i think i agree with peter. we need to be able to manage the response of the perspective of the long-term. but we need now is to change complete their way to do the innovation. the type of innovation we have today, it is impossible for me to believe that she will go to 15, 20 million people in africa if you have cd for machine everywhere. so the simplification, as i said in my letter to the partner, a

red hill will simplify one pill a day and look up how we bring to help us to do no harm or groups to look up how we work together to simplify. if we don't simplify its not possible. they may give you an example. just to make sure that the 9 million people were waiting for to make that issue needing treatment will cost $700 million most machines are not working. so i reset the institute in australia in melbourne and their testing this will today in malawi with 1 dollar they can take the blood, three minutes later tell you if your cd for its about 350 or below 350.

so for me on the can for those of innovation that can help shift the task to work being done by educated eco-and the interface between service provider and community and increase the demand. but if we don't ship to innovation, way. >> i should clarify for audience that the human immune system i very specifically targeted by the hiv virus. so as your cd-4 count goes down, you're headed for his part said the case of the disease. we have time for one more question. i think i sought and stars of family care international but air. >> thanks, laurie. i wanted to ask if you could, specifically in what you see as priorities and transcendent

possibilities in sub-saharan africa, the region where the problem of hiv/aids is most severe in terms of population and in particular from the perspective of the long-term potential and the question of the most strategic approach in terms of dealing with hava is more or less of it or to publish your integrate cnet with the provision of basic health services, reproductive, newborn and maternal services, what you see is the most appropriate strategy for dealing with this in africa. >> i think all built on the peter david when we were working together to demonstrate that it is an exceptional disease and it is very important to bring that under the agenda, but since

then, i try to take a set of isolation and that it's not possible anymore to do with aids. we need to look at the intersection with the concept and hava. you are talking about hiv and reproductive health. if you say africa, three major challenges. one is women, women, but men. the whole issues of violence against women, making sure that when men could get other information on reproductive health so they can have less young girls being unnecessarily pregnant and abortion than others is one priority if we want to do with this epidemic. one will be suddenly human rights. on the human rights issues are making sure that all those

people who are not part of the mainstream of society and how we address human rights issues, and their access to services unfair orientation. but for me it's still education to make sure that young people are equipped with skills. i would go for those three as a major, major challenge. of course others need to be there, but that is changed, which we need to address. >> peter, final word. >> i agree with that. it can cost of their many africans. it's important to customize a wiki to reach society and that is something that is a big

challenge for any global movement. we tend to have a bunch of experts come together and that's good for everybody. frankly that's not how the world functions and that's not how any company works, consumer oriented. so we need also much better at finer analysis of the local technology, cultural, and satoru situation. and then also you mentioned these are generic issues that have to be applied everywhere. but then, let's take southern africa. he still have an incredible incident. two, three, 4% per year of young women become hiv-positive. there you need an all-out effort. when you go west africa, a country like molly over senegal, it's well within the new york

city. they are fully integrated to do it in a different way and that's also the lesson in humility for the global community. >> well, what to think peter piot for writing "no time to lose." i want to thank transcendent and peter for joining us at the council on foreign relations today. thank you very much. [applause] soundtrack [inaudible conversations] >> you don't find many newspaper editors of any era embrace of investigative reporting. it's not just economics. it's a discomfort that economic reporting causes in the newsroom because it's troubled son. at more than economics. if he ruffled the feathers of somebody powerful, and i could as people running into the same to the publisher and their stories are bleaching over the

years of those things happening. we were fortunate through the 70s and are almost all our careers to work for people who are strong in up right in that area and let the chips fall where they may come away the work way you. >> next, author laurie anders argues that she causes social network constitution is a need to protect privacy rights online. she was at the national constitution center in philadelphia, talking about her book, i know who you are and i saw what you did: social networks and the death of privacy. this is a little more than an hour. >> genetically tackle a timely

and thorny traffic of individual freedoms major social media. the founding fathers protected import rice from individual freedoms corroborate your privacy, right to a fair trial, for now, social networks create an entirely new set of questions and challenges. colleges and employers reject applicants because the publicly available information and photos on a social networking site. juror says details and ask their friends to vote on whether defendant should kota jail. marketing companies face lawsuits for allegedly collecting information about citizens based on our travels on the web without knowledge or consent. how would the founding fathers have handled these scenarios? what would have been a social networking sites are subject to the bill of rights? we have a fantastic group of experts tonight to delve in to the subject, starting with lori andrews. professor andrew strikes science, law and technology at illinois institute of

technology. .. she's also a program in cash or he'll is a staff writer affords, where she explores law, to elegy, social media and personal information on the blog but not so private parts. before joining ford, who is editor of the blog about the loss or she also has worked for such publications as the week in the "washtington examiner." jennifer preston a staff writer at "the new york times" come or she covers the relationship of social media politics, government and real-life. mispricing took on the beach in june or 2011 after the newsroom's first social media editor. a veteran reporter began her

career right in philadelphia to bulletin newspaper in philadelphia daily news. she also served as adjunct professor club university school of journalism. ..

>> now everything private about us is not in the house. we we have to find out ways to protect things that we care about and so forth. so we talking about? well, the names of the organizations of the services that we are talking about, who are we talking about? >> we are talking about not only states, but think about it, private data affects 800 million people. it will be the third largest nation in the world after china that has its own currency and economy. and yet, there is no revelation about what can be posted in the

government can try to get information off of social networking sites. we are talking about companies that made a deal with internet service providers in california in order to put their hardware. they could copy and analyze every web search mitigation was just a settlement, but we have to think about the way it our private information has become public and potentially monetize them out there. >> okay, so we are talking about the real beginning of this

conversation. with 11 kills and a reasonable expectation of privacy. there are those that would suggest it is ludicrous. but these are choices. can you talk about that feeling of reasonable expectations of privacy? also, where that comes from. >> well, there are many different ways in which we are on the internet. and i think that we have different degrees of privacy depending on which area were talking about. it is fair to say that we have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our e-mail, which is something that is private. but when we are talking about increasingly public forums like twitter i think we really have

to differentiate which ones we are talking about things have changed over the years. people are still adjusting to that. people are putting information online in out there. a lot of people get uncomfortable because they are not thinking of how close they really are. >> i would like to comment on the fact about what we consider private. a new york judge says your e-mail should be treated like a postcard, as if you were writing to anyone. and if you look at court cases, for example, one woman who was really injured in a personal injury case, the judge actually used for facebook picture of her smiling to say that oh, she can't be that hurt is she

smiling. not asking if it was before the accident. so people might think or know enough not to have drunken photos of himself on facebook. but it's often when you wouldn't think of it. holding a glass of wine at a wedding, for example. some employers have turned down job applicants because they have a picture with a glass of wine in it. and you have things like people who are young and wearing gang colors and any hipster could wear all black. so i don't think we understand how this could be problematic. the woman who loses a potential

job because she has a picture on facebook of her child. yes, twitter, youtube -- you're talking to the larger population. but sometimes it sneaks up on you. >> i would like to get more of a dialogue going. so often in the united states we are looking at these book and twitter. we will see it as trivial. but could you talk about social media and looking how the constitution is involved and. so for instance, directly the air of spring involvement. talk about why this question is a lot bigger than just what we might see here in the states the amount welcome in the privacy issues that we are discussing tonight are very important. what is also important is these platforms turned out to be enormously powerful tools in

countries where there were tremendous restrictions on freedom of expression. freedom of assembly and rights and freedoms that many take for granted here in the united states. in egypt, many people first thought that -- you know, they kept on talking about facebook sparking the january 25 protests. well, it didn't begin with an indication posted on facebook page. the committee where there was tremendous discussion around police brutality and abuse issues actually began in june of 2010. that was the facebook page that was started by a group of anonymous human rights

activists. who was also working as a google marketing executive. what happened is that there was a young man who was killed by police. the next thing that happened was someone took a photograph with a cell phone of this young man's battered face and they put the photo on youtube and they put it up on facebook. in june of 2010. over the next few months, hundreds of thousands of people joined a facebook page. on that facebook page, they discuss things that they could not discuss otherwise. you know, in an internet café or really anywhere else. so the concerns about privacy,

we think about what our founding fathers might have thought how powerful these tools can be with promoting democracy and also promoting freedom of succession. >> i think that is why we advocate of the rights. people were using the internet as a way to organize. senator lieberman has suggested a kill switch and having digital tax on things and i do think that this is really important. you may be surprised to learn that we are far behind other countries. you are guaranteed to have internet service provider nearby to get free access and in other countries, you cannot be so readily bumped off if you have a copyright violation and you are downloading music and so forth.

and so the freedom of the press actually ranked much higher than the united states in part because of this openness of the internet there. so it is an important democratizing tool. >> this is the perfect opportunity to get more into conversation. so the social networking and freedom of speech -- nothing short of the future democracies around the world. it is incredibly important. it builds in your social network and there are a lot of questions and i would love to hear about. but i think this is a great start to a conversation. so can you walk us through, in your book, we need to highlight what that means and how far audience recorded a conversation. >> okay, when you think about

it, or constitutional rights are against the government. other countries though, their constitutional rights apply to corporations as well in many countries. why should private companies even care about this. i think these constitutional rights are really based on fundamental values that we all share. initially the founders of facebook said you will get over privacy and the new generational care about it. but it actually shows that younger people do care more than younger people. eighteen years old to 29 years old choose the highest privacy setting. there are two reasons why companies could care. the u.s. constitution has influenced private law. we have private state law and provisions about equality in the

constitution that have been active as civil rights laws. so it influences private law. so there could be a market for privacy. so they come along and say we will make it easier for you. and then facebook had to modify things and so forth. so what i am suggesting is a type of touchstone. before i buy an iphone, i give consideration to all the security. anywhere you go on the web, when it's not protected -- if you think about things like that the people might hold as private. >> you do a lot of coverage around the intersection of

technology. does this seem like a real step forward to you? can you talk about your reaction? >> well, i think it speaks to the problems at this point. a lot of judges interpret the law around these technologies and don't always understand the technology. many have found that there are expressions are under around her e-mail and law enforcement can only get that technological issue straightened out. many would say that it is upsetting. in terms of trying to apply everything -- i mean, the constitution is supposed to have

businesses not be able to look at a facebook page when they are making a hiring decision. i find that problematic. especially on social networks now. we mix up our lives altogether. so i think that customers will be looking. and i think that this is something to think about. how people are represented. the customers can then judge businesses based upon how their employees react. i feel like you are suggesting were violating the rights of businesses there. so i would say one of the issues on the protections -- when the

courts have considered cases where you have cookies on your computer and consumers have gone to court and said this violates the federal wiretap application and i need to be protected, the courts have actually favored business too much and they say that oh, this lot of sense if one part is okay. you know, saying that it's okay for marketing companies together and monetize information. i think they should be asking me. so i would personally change that i think you on as well protected as what you think. with respect to e-mail, okay, so a young girl with an eating disorder sued blue cross and blue shield they said i want every e-mail sent by that girl

that she has ever posted on social network pages to prove that it is a social disorder that has her having bulimia and the judge does gave that up. yes, you can have the entire hard drive of a spouse. all of the stuff is coming in. i am more comfortable with an approach like we see in europe, where germany is debating about the use of social networking information, we have been and where you cannot google an employee before hiring them. i don't want to see people censoring themselves since birth. where you get the rich families to hire tutors and so forth. now they have someone starting from when the kid is two years old because that's one you get a facebook page when your parents are putting things on,.

>> i wanted open, but i want to to protected. >> 21 open? >> i don't have information open. >> facebook does after -- they have learned -- they have huge backlash from users and they have made privacy settings were transparent. as a reporter, i will tell you that there's a lot more people in the last year. the tools are there for people to control and manage their information. what you need here is a massive public education campaign for parents and educators. for people about how to use these tools responsibly.

>> we are still adapting as a society and learning what it means to be exposed due to the way we track our lives and share information online. and i do agree with that. that's part of the problem here, getting everyone educated. >> right now employers are saying, all right, if you want a job come you have to tell us your password so we can go on your private website. >> the bottom line is there are laws governing employment in the united states. there are certain things an employer can ask and certain things they cannot pass. an employer cannot ask marital status. an employer cannot use that information against you in a hiring decision. >> but how do you prove that?

>> we need additional loss? i don't know. there are laws on the books right now. once we had it last summer opened my eyes to a lot of information that employers can gather on people. there is a startup company who is running their business like the way a credit reporting agency runs their business. so what they do is provide employers with a social media type of credit report on potential employees. what they do for employers as they gather every single thing you have ever sat in a chat room, posted on flickr or put up on anyone of the photo sharing sites. but they are very careful about

what information they provide to employers. they only provide information that is allowed under the law to be considered in a hiring decision. >> okay, so you go there and you see your private cell phone number generating to your house, and if people pay a little bit more per month, they can get things on certain restrictions. but they make no pretense of following the credit reporting laws. and so what happens is someone sue them. so you have everything all wrong about them. they say oh, we are in this and i might not get a loan. i might be thought of as being flaky by employers.

don't you want to see what is on the side and all these other sites, and there are people that say a million people go onto this website. good hire, what credit cards to offer people. and then an individual sue them and says this violates the reporting act. you have to tell them they're doing this, and the court was not involved by the argument. so as you pointed out, we did get some laws, but let's start applying them. we have great laws that protect medical privacy. but there is a website that people like me post a comment that i am depressed and then they share that information. so people who had weird diseases could learn stuff together.

all of a sudden the patients start pulling down their websites. so i think that we should be allowed to be open about our ideas in a private setting and should not be restricted because of the fear of what will be done with that information. >> okay, so i just think i heard you talk about what others are probably thinking. so 20 years from now we might laugh that we had this conversation. >> warcry. >> yes, that's correct. so let me talk a little bit about that. institutions and individuals are figuring out what is appropriate. and we will figure out what is natural. let's talk about that. >> okay, this will still be

there in 20 years. it could end up playing into the future hiring and local plans. in 40 years, we will have somebody in the supreme court who will have been on facebook for most of their life and there will be a ton of information there. we are early starting to see that with some of the younger political candidates. one candidate that was running for congress and there were some photos that popped up from her younger days and a party -- she was dressed as santa and her husband was dressed as rudolph

the red nose reindeer. he had something that was not a red nose on his face. it was kind of embarrassing for her. her reaction sort of went viral. and i don't think she was slated to win the race. she was running as a democrat in a very conservative district and she did not win. but her reaction to it was to say that this is how we are now. when she proposed for society is we can adapt to that these

people are human. i hope that is the direction we will move in. i think that it is inevitable. >> it would be great if there was somebody you could press when you were 21 or 25 and just the race every photograph of you with a red cup or in some inappropriate situation. but there just isn't. so i think that what that means for all of us whether we are journalists or parents or educators, it is a huge responsibility. the responsibility with our kids. to raise awareness about the

facts so i do think that right now when we are in this period, which kashmir hill described as a responsibility for all of us to deal with things carefully. >> technology is coming down the pipes. making sure that your digital photos are deleted after two years. so those pictures that you took with your ex-girlfriend and so forth -- you know what is happening is that we are all in this together. we have had people who --

because they smoke pot -- i heard that with genetics. when i was told was everybody has a 12 genetic qualities and certain people feel that their things are worse than yours. so there is still this information. so with every technology that i have followed, whether it is genetic or forensic technology, initially a lot of stuff was used and privacy was protected and expanded. so i think courts will come around to it like they did when the supreme court handled it see if there were more like him than

usual to determine whether you are potentially growing marijuana. even though they didn't come out your house from the street, there is no violation. i think we will eventually get there, but a lot of damage might be done. >> [inaudible] >> can use the microphone? >> okay. >> last question that i want to talk about is bringing us back to the concept of the founding fathers and facebook. with the discussion we have had in our own take on it. it kind of gives us a sense of

what the founding fathers as a group loves freedom of speech opportunities or would they be terrified of the privacy. >> okay the chief of marketing of facebook, a former ceo said that we have to do away with certain things on the web. that was certainly part of the founding principles. also how it's playing out in the right to a fair trial. people are actually posting on their facebook page and asking their friends to vote for certain things, even though things are certainly going on in the courtroom. i think that those would be less than. >> i think that twitter and facebook have been really

beneficial. these are great tools for organizing. ben franklin used to keep a daily journal where he tracks his virtues to figure out if he was being a better person. you like this idea of archiving and tracking. you are talking about the school for the leading data and i don't know anyone who would want a photo of him to disappear into yours. i think there are so many benefits to these new technologies and this idea of tracking and gathering data from our lives and being able to look at it over a long period of time. that is something that we would have loved. >> i think certainly the

founding fathers would've found tremendous utility in these tools. one of these guys says on facebook, oh, it's pretty cool this christmas. you know, that's been a problem. so is laurie has said and what we are all saying is there needs to be a balance. people need to recognize that these are companies with terms of service. read the terms of service for just one of the social networks that you use. they are businesses. so awareness is vital during the various state legislatures that

reference these very important issues. >> okay, let's go to the audience for some questions. >> down here on the left-hand side, there are a bunch of questions on weather. the first is practical and the second is theoretical. can employers access their facebook accounts of their set is private. can you guys explain how that works? secondly, we are a representative democracy, but since the founding fathers would be skeptical of social media, how does this work? >> would you let me take the first question? >> well, they may get it from data aggregators that have spread your account. they may get from companies that

track things before you took down certain things. before you made private your account. there is a long time when my space and having privacy settings. the generally police can get your private side that employers cannot. although some employers will ask for your password. >> i wanted to just get a quick walk-through. hoping you could answer that. what is the nefarious side of this? what does that mean? to well, facebook is a data aggregator. it serves as an intermediary between advertisers and private information. so going on a trip to florida,

let's talk about some aggregators that include collecting a picture of all aspects of the web. so there is a lot of information that follows your travels all over the web and it can increasingly be used for other things. >> so generally if your account is very private, it's hard for an employer to look at it. something that some employers have done is sometimes you can access certain information if a person has made it available to their network. so they hire an intern, that in turn can ask certain information for other people.

so you want to look at your privacy settings and make sure you know which audiences you are exposing your data too. if you are only going to expose it to your friends, family or friends can really see that. >> so how did police -- just so everyone can understand. how can police and courts get access to your data without a subpoena or court order? >> well, some do it through social networking and others do it through projects. they look exactly at what government agencies are looking about you. and they have the manual that can see how much they give without a subpoena. you know, so it's really -- it's very interesting.

because there are guidelines for the immigration service they can pretend to find out about other people on the microsecond question was on pushing us on the issue. can you repeat that second question? >> yes, the question was social media having been built in a direct democracy. >> yes, especially with women jump into the conversation. [laughter] >> okay, let's get through a bunch of them. >> you guys talked about what should be private, what shouldn't be private, how private shipping speed. a concerned that have is that things are too private and we have too much anonymity, it's easy for me to masquerade as someone else and cause problems for you because i can pretend

i'm you. how do we address that? >> california has in each person nation law.. -- continually in cyberharassment cases. the mother of arrival would be a 16-year-old boy or a friend that is the daughter's rival and pretend to be interested in and push back. so we are balancing between freedom of expression and the importance of anonymity, and then the whole cyberissue to i will tell you that the real identity is not required. in the political space, i have covered this for a long time. and i have covered these things.

and i'm used to doing so. so we will get calls from troopers that they did you hear about this and that. what i'm seeing is a new form of dirty tricks. and it's all done behind these anonymous accounts. so it does create very big problems. >> so she immediately created a website -- a very expensive website about her daily doings to try to influence people's

opinion. >> yes, i think it does tend to come out at times. you see people's uglier sides. that is kind of a beauty and difficulty of the internet. >> like leaving a bad comment are defaming another person. oftentimes they do get tracked down based on the fingerprint that they left behind. >> okay, let's talk about this over here. >> okay, what i'm going to ask ties directly into that.

someone is looking to find you for the technical appendix. the distinction between what an employer might be looking for on the job you're representing your employer organization around-the-clock, 24/7. i would like to hear your thoughts with u.s. army troops, unfortunately, and the whole issue of the viral video. the viral video with the taliban. whether you see a distinction between armed forces and what the gradient is. sort of where that winds move.

from an educational approach especially. >> okay, anyone? >> i was at a security conference and basically off-line. not a lot. >> okay so basically there was a court case in the video that was posted by a husband. someone shooting a bob mcdonnell character in the face. if i work for a company, maybe some of the people or customers wouldn't like that. i would still allow it to be kept private.

i would say that you should have privacy settings. because companies don't -- you know, initially clients don't like women lawyers. and we have gone over letting customers run with competent people in their jobs can do. so i am completely comfortable having this off-limits employer might make decisions in this area. for example, an employer can't discriminate against you based upon your genetic makeup. but that includes they can go on facebook and see if you like the breast cancer association or if you are saying that i have a doctor appointment for my disease and so forth. you can argue that. the companies might be benefited by having that. they could then choose to not

hire or promote employees who might cost them money with insurance. so social networks are off-limits to employers and upsetting. and we have now a national regulations were that have said that it's okay to say critical things about even your company. it is kind of an effort to change the conditions. so we have the backbone for protecting it. and i don't think that big it's that big a leap to say keep it off limits. >> you know, we travel and we are always checking our phones to be connected to work. we tend to move around with our mobile statuettes.

most of us on facebook and twitter -- we kind of -- whether you see it as a good thing or bad thing, we have come to represent in the attached you are employers all of the time. so i think that this is part of the advocation here. you have to think about that. you have to think about the repercussions for what you put out there. people need to be cognizant of that. especially in their decision-making. >> welcome at "the new york times" when i was the social media editor, that was a big question. should we allow our journalists to go out there and post on twitter, or should we impose all sorts of restrictions and rules. what we realized that we have lots of rules happening at times. we have an ethics guideline

book. our journalists know that you don't put a mccain bumper sticker or an obama sign in your yard. so you shouldn't say that i love sarah palin -- i don't love sarah palin, you know, on your twitter account. especially if you are a journalist. so i think that there are many guidelines and rules. we need to consider them. not necessarily making up new ones. the most important thing that people need to remember when they are using these tools is what your good judgment is. show your good judgment. i did a story a couple of weeks ago about school boards across the country imposing guidelines for teachers on facebook.

because for many teachers, the decision to defend a student or not was a decision that many teachers were and are making all by themselves. it has been getting some teachers in trouble. sometimes it is fascinating that some teachers unions fight back against these guidelines. they see them as being too restrictive of freedom of expression and there is a big dispute over a law in missouri. however some see these guidelines during this period is being guidelines to really protect educators. it helps you understand what was appropriate and what was not to say and do on a social network.

>> [inaudible] >> you had mentioned that about 70% had been privacy protected. they are the ones taking photos, partying on facebook. as those people start their own startups and become a business force in america, where do you see the laws coming from? and where is this change coming from to start with? because so many young people are struggling with jobs and we have a different opinion of things. do you see that as being transparent instead of being judged? >> i think that some businesses want you to have that.

some issues when you are talking about what you have, the employers are saying that we own your audience. you can't take them with you. so i think we need to face a lot of issues when you build up a following, who owns that if you are tweeting from cbs.com and you end up in a fight with the television network is whether you can take your followers with you and not. >> i just wanted to say that i

recently left this book because everyday i'm reading about some case words being used against the courts. sort of people being incriminated by themselves. it used to be a gated community. and then my aunt got on their. [laughter] my daughter's honor. the classmates parents are on there. my mother-in-law's on there now. >> he said it would be nice if there was a big reset button you can push. it would be nice. that facebook doesn't make that. the only thing i can do is quit or i can have three friends and maximize my privacy settings and

three years worth of data. so i see nothing wrong with a law or something saying that you have to give people more control. >> is the market dictate what should be a big jurisprudence issue? >> correct. the response is often if you don't like it, if you feel like your privacy is being violated, then just quit. in one way i think it's valid, and another i think there are networks there. if you're not there, you can't communicate. i but i do think that this study is evolving. and if you find that there are more downfalls and upsides,

benefits, and people will leave. i think that will happen. there are some people who have decided to quit facebook. good luck, a lot come back to talk live without it. there is a reset button. when you come back you start fresh. >> there was a recent settlement about privacy information center. that you could delete within 30 days. i think that is an important aspect. i think we might see some alternatives to facebook. the computer program you can use

the turns into a diet coke. not a lot left and you think oh, my mom's on facebook. and oh, no, his mom's on facebook. and you don't this is part of that. >> for parents, find out if your child is on tumbler. because there is a lot more content than that can be created there than some of the other networks. >> facebook is more entrenched. it does seem to have some different generations participating. that depends on newer generations being drawn to facebook as well. there are other places you can

go to have a more private space and social network. maybe people can start doing different things in different places and keep their identity somewhat separate. >> okay, there are five minutes left and we are going to move to the lightning round. >> okay. >> [inaudible question] >> and we go back far enough, health care and your private information about your health was not necessarily restricted by law, yet all of that information is presented by law to be released. why couldn't a similar situation be developed here, although it is somewhat different. you are providing the information on facebook where the health information, when you go to the hospital or doctor's office -- yet that is controlled and very effective.

could something like that be implemented in these situations? >> it could be. now we are seeing an overlap. the type of information that people post are the types of information about relationships, sexuality, sexual preference, political interests and we in the past have not stringently protected this under the right laws. you have an expectation of privacy in facebook. you are asked to be friends with people. you know, actually see the privacy involving the cover social networks. >> i think it is ironic that

once the data is aggregated, but nothing of that is done for people whose data we are concerned with. the original. just like the pennsylvania department of motor vehicles -- the sole data about the type of cars that people own. i thought it was an outrage of the time. the point is really the commercial aspect and doesn't the data block means that the companies that sell it freely? shouldn't they ask? should they pay me for that? what kind of value does the state have? >> that is actually a good point because there is a company in

great britain that kind of does that. >> [inaudible question] >> to put a damper on everything. in order for me to sell data coming opinion thousand dollars a year and maybe it would slow the process down. >> there are a lot of things that you get for your data. you get free media content. you get to use google. i think that we are giving our data up. >> data is what you are paying for those services. ..

we don't want to suppress the freedom of speech by way of example, one of my classmates before any of those has scanned letters and photos and so forth from high school of them put it on the web.

[inaudible] [laughter] likewise, even these kids come the photos that go with maybe put up by one of their friends, not to. >> and i do think that facebook and these other services have a changes in the last year, very important changes in the rate direction and one of them includes tagging, where people cannot just tag you without your permission. but on the other hand they've developed facial recognition software for automatic tagging chemist of the specs that isn't as great and they gave the example the doughnut to attack everyone's in a photo at a wedding. but if a bride had to tag everybody, you know, maybe they wouldn't take the picture of you

having a sake bomb or kissing someone else's wife are puking on the dance floor. you cannot tag yourself, but it's not that great a thing. i've been reading quite ologies are going, with the idea is a snap your picture with my smartphone on the street, tells me of a dating site you're on, what you listen to. >> we can never control what people say about us. it's different now as they can save in a place with a huge audience and that's really the difference. >> the people they tell it to doubt whether things about you that you're really responsible person and so forth. the world audiences something different. >> i've been trying to hide the fact that i've had a bowl cut

for years. i can't do it now. >> and rural america, one of my colleagues did a really smart tori and i wonder if there's a place for become for some links links after this talk so you might be able to see some of the pieces and articles and issues. in small towns across america, there's a social now for that not many people know about in philadelphia or new york or boston or washington, where it's nasty and many of these small towns because they don't have real identity and people say all sorts of -- >> or whether you're married and want to have an affair, one of my friends went to a remote area in michigan after his father died and found all these feet let's say that he ran into at

the post office and so forth advertising to have affairs. some more baby have to name them aviles. >> been a question pass it over here. >> i would really lead to and on a positive note. i resonate a lot with what kashmir has to say. the positive benefits of social media are tremendous, but i'll were talking about his negative behavior as a lot of psychological ramifications. but what about positive behavior? and associate media administrator and also a fraud investigator. so i see both sides of the. the connections i've made to build my professional life in addition to my personal life are enormous semi would love to really have conversation about the positive benefits. >> a great way to and on that note six below. uhf 15 seconds. extol the virtue of the social web in whatever format you

choose. >> look at what happened in the last year, in 2011. it started in tunisia. we saw what happened in egypt, bahrain. it's not just social networks and cell phones. protesters in bahrain, when the cell phone and the ability to take a photo of what was happening to them and their ability to transmit data around the world helped save them at some very, very difficult for moments. and what we saw with occupy wall street, the horses left the barn. people are documenting experiences and social media is here to stay and learning how to use it this ounce of late and in a smart way is everyone's responsibility. >> i'm just amazed at the ways

we can connect now. i was out walking nbc's thought it a whole of women stuff spilled on the sidewalk and i say maybe she had affair with her boyfriend and he dumped her step outside, but i spotted a prescription because i'm naturally curious, i flipped it over and her name is they are. so googled her and her twitter account came up. it said six hours earlier that her car had been broken into. so i said hey, i think i just found your stuff. she said where is that? i told her where was in her friend went and collected it. my mind was blown by that. i did that on about three minutes here before twitter, before facebook, that could not happen. it's a small story, but there's many benefits join a public menace. >> also, differences of party

music. if european you can do the following, but this crowd sourcing going on. i started novel, you add to it and crowd sourcing science, where they found individuals are better. not how to fold proteins and computers and people working on a particular project and shortly after the revolution there a little baby girl was born in egypt and hurt that named her facebook. as an important not to what's going on. >> thank you, everyone for coming out. [applause]

>> to 113th congress convened today and tomorrow we'll talk with two senators about the legislative agenda for the new congress. [applause] maggie hassan was sworn in thursday. the ceremony with a half an hour. [applause] [applause]

>> madam speaker, mr. president, madam chief justice, honorable members said the house and senate and the executive council. former governors, u.s. senator, my fellow citizens commit thank you for the trust you have placed in me. it humbles me and will sustain me as they were to be a remarkable state. [applause] today as i was sworn in as your governor, i pledge to follow the constitution of new hampshire and the united state.

now make one more promise. i will work as hard as i can to honor your trust. i will strive to do so in the tradition that has guided us throughout our history, the tradition of openness, bipartisanship and collective problem-solving. [applause] no one has exemplified that tradition more than the person i am succeeding. [applause] [applause] someone i want to thank on behalf of all of our citizens for his four terms in the corner

office. thank you, governor john lynch. [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] i sought this out the city could save our own way forward, harnessing the promise of our great cities in democracy to the reserve and strengthen our state special qualities.

i know that together we can build a stronger, more innovative new hampshire, a new hampshire where all of our citizens are suited in our shared success and prosperity. [applause] to our very core, we value freedom, independence, hard work , fiscal responsibility, family and community. we live these values and our personal lives and in our work places and every citizen, regardless of circumstance, should have the opportunity to lift them, to. to hold a good job, work hard, raise a family and share in the high quality of life we enjoy in new hampshire.

when they do, they become empowered and our state grows stronger. [applause] our ability to accomplish this goal lies and our willingness to innovate, not only to develop innovative new products and services, but to innovate in other areas as well. any operation of our traditional industry, and the way we educate our citizens, and the way we deliver government's essential services and in providing the tools to support growing businesses and create good middle-class jobs. [applause]

new hampshire as many distinctions we can be proud of. we have the lowest poverty rates and lowest teen birth rates in the nation. we are consistently rated as one of the safest cities in one of the best places in the country to raise children. [applause] we are uniquely suited to seize the promise and opportunity that innovation presents, but adapting to the demands of an innovation economy% immediate challenges, too. our population is aging, yet we pursue policies driving our young people up out of the state. we have the fourth highest in-state tuition for public universities in the country and

to many of our talented students pursue a college education elsewhere. when these new hampshire native sleeves to complete school, they often choose not to return, depriving our economy and talented people that the energy and skills needed to drive innovation. we need to renew our tradition of attracting new citizens to our state and we need to help our young people stay here, raise their own families here and remain part of the future of new hampshire. [applause] cutting state support for public education is half, following the tobacco tax two years ago was

shortsighted. [applause] [applause] it hurt our young people and it's not quickly address, one pair of future economic prosperity. we must begin to reverse course. in exchange, the university system working with isvs to increase the number of new hampshire's events admitted to a state colleges and universities and freeze in-state tuition. [applause]

we must also recognize that not a race to choose is the same path and that community college system has developed innovative, nimble and cutting-edge programs to educate our citizens. we must continue to support their effort to build the strong workforce that our citizens need. [applause] i have always believed strongly in the power and value of education. my parents for educators and i was fortunate that they work to make sure that my sister, rather and i receive the best education possible. mom and dad created a home in which the value of learning, the

obligations of citizenship and vigorous part respectful debate were emphasized. our home is always warm and rarely told. it is difficult for me to express how grateful i am to my parents and family. i am so glad that my mother, peggy, my sister, for any and brother frank are here with us today. [applause] [applause] given the importance of education in my life, it is probably not an accident that i choose to marry an educator. i am so proud of the work my husband, tom does this principle

of phillips exeter academy and i'm so grateful for the support he has given me. tom, you will bring insight, humor and skills to the role of first gentleman. thank you. [applause] [applause] i am also a very proud mother. my two children, then and may have inspired me, grounded me and supported me. i wouldn't be here without you. [applause]

[applause] and i can't talk about my family without acknowledging how much we have been helped and enriched by the team of caregivers who have provided superb care and support to ban, allowing him to receive a full education and participate in this community. you have all become an integral part of her family and give birth to the idea that when we care for each other, we all get stronger. thank you. [applause]

i want the same for all of new hampshire's young people as i want for my own children. the opportunity to learn, to grow and to lead. recently had the privilege of visiting girls inc. in nashua, which helps teach important life skills to girls and young women. dozens of energetic gross, ranging from berkeley and five and six euros to collect teenagers have waited patiently for us to arrive. they had researched the questions they wanted to ask and their knowledge was impressive. but it wasn't related topics that were important. they were being encouraged to imagine and realize that they could be leaders, too. but they could be anything they wanted to be. in order for the girls i met sacrosanct and oliver young people to realize their true names, we must ensure that each

step along the way, their education is providing them the skills, knowledge and innovative thinking needed in a 21st century economy. [applause] we must work with teachers, local schools, higher education and business communities to ensure a robust and rigorous education for all averse to dance, including in stem fields of science, technology, engineering and math. [applause] new hampshire's public colleges and universities have set an ambitious goal of doubling the number of stem students they graduate by 2025. we should embrace that: make achieving at a state priority.

[applause] businesses are ready and willing to hire people with these skills. our task is to make sure new hampshire's workforce is ready to fill these jobs. [applause] we have other opportunities and challenges as well. to compete in the 21st century, our businesses must find new markets for innovative business services. 95% of the world's consumers live out side of the united states. i want to hampshire to be a leader and exports them in the next two years, i'll work to help assist sell their products around the globe. [applause]

to encourage innovation, we should also encourage creation of new technologies here in new hampshire by doubling the research and development tax credit. [applause] we want punch or nurse of innovative ideas to come to new hampshire that we want those who start businesses here to stay here and grow here. that means continuing to build strategic partner states between colleges and universities and inventors the notch or nurse. take the example of fairfax and portsmouth. palm barber, ceo had the idea of using low-cost energy-efficient components to build simple heating and cooling devices for homes and commercial buildings.

bob told me the ati came to him when he was sitting with his wife on a rooftop deck that was too cold in the winter and too warm in the summer. he thought there has to be a way to fix this. he did and we support and guidance from the great launching pad, a business incubator at unh, bob has developed his idea into a successful and growing business right here in new hampshire. [applause] to support these businesses, we must recognize there are some tasks that can only be accomplished in partnership with government. chief among those are ensuring access to education for all, protecting public safety in building and maintaining the infrastructure that businesses and citizens need.

[applause] we must recognize that businesses from established industry such as manufacturing and tourism, to the industries of the future cannot innovate and grow without the modern roads, or just come abroad and in reliable and clean power they require. [applause] to address our challenges and seize the opportunity of innovation, we must summon our best traditions of cooperation and problem solving. the people of our state collaborate and make things work all the time. their elected leaders must be able to do the same. [applause]

the people of new hampshire have made it clear that they want to restore balance, that they want us to work together. let us promise ourselves today that we will meet our challenges by focusing on common sense solutions born collaboration, that we will together and the area of hasty, reactive government. [applause] [applause] [applause]

i understand the work of the house and the senate. i was honored to be one of you. what you do matters and affects the lives of real old. to the best of my abilities, i will work with you and foster open dialogue. in return, i urge members of both parties to share your ideas and concerns with me. my door will be opened and together we can find a way to solve problems and make new hampshire a better place. clap back among the most challenging tasks ahead is the need to foster innovative economic growth while continuing to balance the state budget. while we are seeing signs of

recovery and growth, we still face fiscal and search and see. we will need to be prudent as we develop our budget. and i am mindful that innovation is not combined to the private sector. we need to continue to find ways to innovate in state government so we can honor our tradition of fiscal responsibility while serving the people of new hampshire effectively and efficiently. [applause] granted stators are frugal in the history of our state government reflects a period to those of you who believe deeply in an income tax, i ask you to put that aside. i will retail at epcot or sales

tax. [applause] and as we build our next budget, do we have much to address, we must acknowledge that we will not be able to do everything all at once. [applause] to those on the other side, i ask you to recognize that there are some things that government must do, not only to help our most vulnerable citizens, but also to regard the platform for economic growth. [applause] needs do not go away simply because we don't fund them. [applause]

and opportunities for innovation and growth can evaporate if we fail to make smart investments in a timely way. [applause] but if we work together, we can fund our priorities and balance the budget. [applause] as lawmakers, we must also record highs that are first and most important obligation is to protect the safety of new hampshire's families. i am so grateful to all those in our state who put their lives on the line to protect our communities. from the police officers, firefighters, and she and other first responders to corrections

officers and security personnel, to state employees who maintain our health and safety and so many more. [applause] [applause] and we are grateful and proud of our veterans and members of the armed forces and the new hampshire national guard, so many of whom have been deployed repeatedly overseas in the last several years to protect our state and our nation while we have been at war. [applause]

[applause] clap back they know will remain shaken by the tragic shooting at sea and the hook. we can be comforted in the knowledge that our new hampshire educators are as bravely and professionally devoted to their students to see here is newtown where. we can be grateful that our first responders protect us by responding to craven on the dangers with calm, skilled intensity. but while our faith and those

that provide receipt giver communities should be stronger than ever, we will all need to honor the victims of the newtown tragedy by coming together to find ways to make our schools and our towns safer and better. [applause] [applause] there is so much that i love about our state. most mornings i walk in the woods along the exeter river, the son of pine needles crackling underfoot, the muted

alarm of maladies as my dog and i walk by, did duty and the stillness of an ice covered stream bring clarity and cheer me as they begin a day. it remains to be new hampshire is a place of unmatched natural beauty. we see it in the mountains tower for the north country, and the lakes that secular state and in the rocky shores and sandy beaches of the seacoast. we see it in every town and city. the awe-inspiring beauty of our natural resources is critical to our hunting, fishing and tourism industries. it attracts businesses a notch for nurse to new hampshire and it is critical to the quality of a deal he lives. [applause]

but what i love most about new hampshire is the all hands on deck eat those of our people. whenever there is a challenge, our people are ready to help in pitch and. we are a state that combines independence and community as nowhere else. but that it does requires we fully include all people of talent and energy in the life of our state. inclusiveness is part of our history. new hampshire is at the forefront to save the union and end slavery. over the decades of local waves of new citizens for the irish and french canadian immigrant with an 18th century, to immigrants from nepal, bhutan

and all around the world who are reinvigorating our state today. we are a model for putting those men and women in our political process, exemplified today when a woman supreme court justice, chief justice swore in a woman governor. [cheers and applause] [applause] we lead the effort to end discrimination against people who experience disabilities and we hope them out of institutions and into the community. our weak commitment now to that endeavor will strengthen our

families, communities and economy. [applause] and nearly four years ago, we led the way, without the force of court order, towards marriage equality. [applause] [applause] last year, i was on a plane with the man next to me struck up a conversation and asked me about my work public-service, including marriage equality. it turns out he was a recruiter for one of the biggest employers in new hampshire and he said to

me, marriage equality is one of the best recruitment tools i have. he said it wasn't because he was necessarily recruiting or individuals. it is because passing marriage equality in new hampshire signal to everyone that kind of welcoming state vr. [applause] [applause] and as has been true throughout our history, every time we bring more people into the margins,

into the heart and soul of our democracy, we get stronger. [applause] you believe in freedom and the value of every person. it is our duty and our destiny to extend the same freedoms we enjoy to all our old. [applause] the work of moving the special state forward cannot it done by officeholders allowed. the doors of the state house open to all who want to engage, learn and contribute. it will take the ideas and spirit and energy of everyone, more so than any other place, new hampshire is a government by

the people. [applause] addressing our challenges will not be easy, but we are granted stators and americans and we are supposed to do hard things. the question is whether we do that to the grand vision that our founders had. remember the notion that we could operate as a true citizen democracy, while also becoming an economic force in the world was at the time a revolutionary one. to some degree, our ability to prove our founders to write will depend on how we urge our task. scripture refers to send in cold hardness of heart, and appreciation of the opportunity and freedom to do difficult

things. in this time and in this place, let's choose to move our state forward but the optimism and pragmatism that is our hallmark. with gladness of heart, let's choose to remember what a gift it is to be citizens of the granite state. thank you. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] >> now onto the program.

so just a little bit about doing the questions were developed for today's event. this is a little bit atypical of a typical chamber event. the chamber's board of directors and the new hampshire women's initiative are centered not around issues, but around this moment in history. the mission of this event is to celebrate and to celebrate the first in the nation status that new hampshire has been holding this event today. robin will facilitate a conversation about what this moment in time to the 500. this powerbook goes so fast and i'm sure and i hope that this conversation leaves you hungry for more. please, share today with your friends, your children, coworkers. we have dvds available. please share this event and moment in history with everyone you know. how this all came together.

the two most common questions i've received over the last week and a half our number one comment do you really have all five of them? [laughter] and number two, how did you pull this together so quick they? the answer to the first question is yes, they are all here. fairfax h. i out their hands and they will be out here momentarily. how it came together, this event sold out in 12 hours. that's never happened for us. but it all started two days before election day and i had this realization that this is a possibility, that this could actually happen and they stood at the door to robin's office and i said, what if all of these major offices are held by women? this is a possibility. this would be historic and we should do an event if it

happens. so as my friends now, my family, i am a self-proclaimed news and political junkie. so on election night i had the tv, my laptop and i found i was watching as results came in. it was happening and it happened. so there were phone calls, e-mails, logistics, selections, printing, tables, chairs, logistics, the really have this event came together is a question, what is? what if we could get them? and i'm so happy we have and i think all of them will agree that tape edition is up at all but the five women where they are today without question,, what if. today's event is bigger. it's bigger than political parties. it's bigger than politics. it's bigger than the chamber of

commerce. today is history in the making. it is not just erase class to these five women about to take the stage. this today is a deep tribute to all five of them, all who have gone before them and all who will follow in their first steps. so with that said -- [applause] escape this program going. let's get started. it is now my great pleasure and honor to introduce our moderator for this morning, the president of ceo of the greater manchester chamber of commerce, an incredible woman in her own right, ms. robin comstock. [applause] and now, the only women in u.s. history to be a lack that is

both a governor and a united states senator, please welcome, new hampshire's senior senator, senator jeanne shaheen. [applause] and next, another woman who is a record for making history. she was the first woman service the as the state's attorney general. please welcome that u.s. senator kelley ayotte. [applause]

max, she was the first to hampshire one minute to congress in 2006. please join me in welcoming, representative elect, carol shea-porter. [applause] and are nearly alike did official representing new hampshire's second district, representative elect, ann mclane kuster and finally, the new governor for the state new hampshire, please join me in welcoming governor elect, maggie

hassan. [applause] >> welcome, welcome, welcome. so exciting. excuse my back. good morning. so great to see all of you this morning and thank you so much. we really appreciate it. good morning. we have a lot to talk about this morning and in my world, never enough time. i'm sure yours as well. i think i'll just jump right in. i hope we can have a group on a conversation to take us around 9:15, 920 or so. the first question i want to ask you a sense he talked about the

day after the election, people over the united states been so profoundly excited celebrating this historic moment, viewing it as an historical moment. i have to ask you, what does it mean to you? i'm wondering, is as significant to you as it looks from us on the outside of this? gene, i'd like to serve at the u.s. a senior representative. how does this feel like to you? >> i think it is significant. i think it's important and exciting that new hampshire is leading the way. [applause] and i think it really speaks to all the women who went before us. annie's mother, susan mclane, who when they were in opposite parties have been elected to the state senate, she helped mentor me and people like liz hager, who is here some days.

he ran for governor. hot tack and arnie arnesen you ran for governor. on the senate have really let it lay in the factory that a legislature that has had so many women has provided training ground for women and it is significant and hopefully with a 3.4 it's no longer significant, but nobody takes note of the fact we have so many women. >> caro, does it feel significant to you? you are in a unique position. he went away and you're back. how do you do this? >> it is significant. this is been quite a thrill for me and it's encouraging 18 for the younger women to know these opportunities are there now and i had a mother tell me that her provoker looked at the screen and said mom, all girls. [laughter] you have three sons, don't you? does it feel significant to you?

>> they've taken note of this, definitely. i appreciate senator shaheen mentioning them on because she worked hard to get women in elected office. what is great, kelley and i both grew up with moms who are active in the state house and more and more, people are going to see that opportunity for their daughters and sons will take note. >> maggie, you are the new kid on the block. >> on the one hand it feels it can. it is significant. i had the pleasure of being majority leader for the first female maturity legislative body, another new hampshire first 2008 to 2010. so i've had an opportunity to think about the role of women in new hampshire and it does speak to what i think it's an important characteristic of state, which is where all hands

on deck kind of place. if you're going to pitch in and contribute, you can do your work. on the one hand it's ipecac, on the other hand have been remiss for a while. this is what we do. i'd also like to give a shout out to my mom who is actually here. [applause] my first political memory is helping my mom collate league of women voters material on the table. mom is very in our community, so it speaks to the importance of women leading the way in showing daughters and friends it can be done. >> what a great point. kelley, does it seems to forget to you? your children are so young, five and eight you receive. >> this is very important. the good thing is having first as it won't be the last.

i see that is younger than coming out now that any possible in anything they set their mind to come and they can it then so is the exciting thing. i felt that when i first became attorney general, that one side doesn't become an issue. we all want to be judged on what we bring in our qualifications and that's what's exciting about all of this. and my daughter, growing up to in a different setting, my parents are still so involved. by anonymous at with the kids this morning in philly. one thing that happened that really struck me when i got into office, she came home one day and said mom, i don't want you to run for president. i said that's not going to happen. no chance it's happening, but why are you ask me this? she said because i want to be the first woman president. [laughter]

so i think anything is possible and that's what so terrific. >> you-all equate the significant moment. i wonder if you had because of the outside of the profound in this event is a testimony to that. i wonder if it is a significant icefield exhibit, what weight do you feel in your shoulders? to fill a larger weight because of the symbolic lament in history? do you feel a responsibility to be a role model for new hampshire citizens, young and old? how does it feel in terms of their personal role? wacky star. >> it doesn't feel like a weight at all. i grew up with a family, so it seems normal to me to have a situation like this. so i just know that each of us want the same income when a database this weekend for new hampshire in the country and that's a i'd want to do, to when

they take up this. i don't feel it's different in terms of a want to accomplish. >> the only difference i've said this pink is the new power color in new hampshire. this seriously, we are also on mothers and if you can find peace with teenagers or toddlers, i think you can find common ground. [applause] what i think is really terrific as the bipartisan. carol and i are going to washington any time with the hyper partisanship here people are really divided and what we want to do is bring common sense, bring us granite state values. you look at the saudi and. women have always worked in new hampshire since the mills. women who worked for generations and if you want something done, ask a busy woman. look at the folks around us for.

but what i feel as we are not unique in this ability, but we do know how to bring people together to get things done and that's the most important quality any of us can bring and certainly what governor elect hassan is going to face in the state. we all need to come together. our country needs our help. >> maggie coming of the second woman governor in the state. to fill a weight on your shoulders as a role model? do not all leaders want to do a good job. i certainly feel an enormous response ability to serve the people of new hampshire as well as i can make the state a better place, even as good as the days when i'm done. but i think men and women share that instance and they decide to serve and we'll have to do his

best for new hampshire. >> kelley, what are you thinking about that? >> i agree. the week i feel it's just the challenges that our country faces. you know, we've got over $16 trillion in debt and is a very difficult time in the course of our country. and that is the week that i feel because it's a tremendous responsibility to people of new hampshire have placed in all of us and we want to make sure we do the best job for new hampshire in the country during a difficult time in our country's history. >> everything you could add quite >> what is important is that by midweek differ next. the sandman family bring those experiences to these job and it is important to have an implicit set the table women make up 50% of the country right now and it's important to bring our experiences to the jobs we have.

>> desecrates point. >> did all of the oasis -- how did you get here? curious as a professional myself about what did you give up to get to where you are today and how did that balance at this point in time? ..

>> fortunately for me, i had governor jeanne shaheen and grandmother and i had a mentor. the opportunity that doors

are open, law schools 50 percent women, going through the most diverse class ever.

>> with the 1980 election in may and said why aren't you home taking care of your kids? she said my daughter is with me. she is taking care of me. [laughter] [laughter] and my son was my driver. >> your mom and must've been a powerful role model. >> she was and she is. my mother taught high school history and my father alternated between teaching college a and a public service. he was a political scientist. it is something we discussed and followed but my dad

hired a lot of women on his staff. i perhaps seeing very professionally at the school of law 60 percent was female in 1985 that was a big deal. that helped but space with family balance, the impact of our service has not just as mothers but public life. what that is like for your kids. but my 19 year-old daughter natalie worked on my campaign but also was an intern at senator jeanne shaheen campaign so she sought a way to be involved. >> a very good.

kelly? we were laughing. i don't think that you did? >> no. for me it was finding the thing that you are passionate about. when i became a prosecutor that brought me into public service. then i realized that is what gets me up every day to make a difference. that led to writing for the senate. but i cannot say this was the pass i thought i would take at all. it teaches us things come through life that you go on that path then you do whatever matters. my mother is a great role model.

, she still is my best friend along with my husband and a huge support and always works. my parents were divorced but i was six but then reburied but she is phenomenal and i feel fortunate to have the strength in my life. >> and i should add my experience is similar. my family care about politics but i never thought i would run. my son is here with a severe physical disability but advocating for him and being appointed to my first public role to advocate on the commission with the public school students and set was making me familiar with the new hampshire legislature. >> i grew up in a large

irish catholic family. of every child that needed room way to go again cousins i was pressed into political service at six years old. my parents were active republicans. i had to carry the signs. i jog every family fought over religion and politics every night. [laughter] it is what you hear is a was an advocate and started a nonprofit social service and the agency but it was katrina that sent me on the path. i went down as a volunteer for one month and came back thinking we could do better. a passion for change to be

an advocate in real sure that. >> i hear you talk about service. >> a mother was politically active going into the new hampshire legislator with i was 12. she would pilots and to the station wagon and drop us off and we would go door to door with the leaflets issue would pick a set back the next block with then we got the ice cream cone. [laughter] >> this is important to understand we had a role to play and my father was a very involved.

my male mentors intend to have daughters and then they become passionate about women having opportunities. >> the power of parenting. >> i have a father and a stepfather. i would agree. that is for the path that is created. >> had used see the women of the electorate in shaping the nation? maggie? you are seated her the junior three. do you see changes? >> over modern political history, talking about women as a constituency to be dealt with or full citizens

to participate as democracy calls on us to do. with this campaign nationally and at the state level, for the economy to change the way we need to keep up with a global economy, we have to honor the values of our founders the individual freedom of every system. bring people into the heart and soul of community is what the granite state is all about. that is the only way to get as strong as we need to be to succeed in all areas that we can. that is where i see a change in the discussion that i think we will do great things as lee inspire more people.

>> going back to the fore fathers liberty and justice for all. they were not thinking about us at the time. [laughter] but the reality is those words are as current today, there is a tremendous gender gap in my lifetime. and the words are very current with voters. also the advertising using against me was not respectful of women and the voters responded. but no matter your opinions on issues they're no longer your women's issues per se. but the issues are people issues. in some families women do

the books so they are focused on the pocketbook issues. wages. one example of equal wage is a community issue. 50,000 women are single head of household. 10,000 live in poverty. if we could pay each one in $1 instead of $0.73, we could bring those kids up. [applause] for me and the voters they were with community issues. then would say thank you for defending my spouse for the equal wages and who else wants to take on $0.73 on

the dollar? >> and remember even though we elected a number of women to be the state we have to make sure the doors open for everybody. in new hampshire and in the country. [applause] >> one important point* is all issues are women's issues. you have to do with the fiscal issues in the issue that's impacts the country

this give said different background your perspective but it is important to keep in mind this is where women are concerned. they may look at a different perspective but women were they have not always been thought of whether national security. many women handle the finances, just the fiscal challenges and badges what i hope people take from this that only certain issues are women's issues. >> but your spouse was applied?

>> it was before children but senator jeanne shaheen and i were both on the armed services committee together. [applause] and many issues we were working on together that is what is exciting is with the understanding that every issue is the woman's issue. >> i hope to be on the committee again but i was a military spouse. i was a military wife because that is all there was. now on the subcommittee is

we have a perspective because you know, what it feels like because you all served. so we add another dimension. talk about the african command to ask the right questions of the nuts and bolts. but the women asked the right questions. to they want us there? >> is of a good representation. >> so reputation proceeds both of you in a bipartisan way.

had to suggest other men and women in the senate do the same? >>. >> people are frustrated. but the senate as an institution is set up to make it hard to get past the partisanship. it is actually divided on the democrats and republicans on opposite sides. tradition says it is supposed to be that way. eve then in committee so there is the bias that is partisan. it is important to work together to reach across the aisle we have made an effort

both serving together as we served together with the only state that has both members and when we get the generals in front of us we can double teamed them. [laughter] [applause] [laughter] >> as a multitude of issues to put new hampshire's first even though we come from different parties. i take that is a new hampshire tradition.

look at the state house both parties generally work together. with being an senator gregg looking at other issues we just had a loss of redmond do have a bipartisan tradition with a remembrance of him in washington and it struck me how many democrats spoke about their relationship and how important he was. none of the washington but the new hampshire attitude. >> what can be done to

increase collaboration? to solve problems and reduce partisanship? that is about representing the estate of past political party. any additional thoughts? >> unlike the united states senate, people fit by district and not political party. i had the pleasure sitting next to friends in the senate and with the debate with some agreement you get to know the people that use it with pretty well. you can write notes i wonder how long so and so will stay.

i was the worst offender. [laughter] you get to know each other. with kelly with the attorney general we worked on the budget together. we already have that relationship that we can build on and it goes back to new hampshire if you are willing to pitch in may can get things done together. a once citizens to understand the relationship that the goodwill is real. in 2005 our son ben had significant surgery over the summer and then later in the term he had more. was a member of the of their political party a man they disagreed with called me every day on my cell phone to see how bad was doing. we are parents first.

he understood. you can always build on that to find common ground and voted on environmental legislation with me telling me he was not a tree hugger and would never do it. [laughter] it does work. focus on what you have in common. >> anything that you can add? >> growing up with a republican family there are people across the spectrum. i was in the congress before but we worked closely with the republicans and the republican senators and kelly had the great grace to call me we talked about the art and commitment to the veterans. we share of lot. >> back to the table of seven kids.

>> i a.m. more bipartisan. my mother was republican or the 43 percent of the new hampshire voters that are tired of either party or will swing back and forth for the individual. but kelly was the first phone call that i received followed by senator jeanne shaheen. i feel we can break ground. i was surprised when i got the two were of the house they said you can sit anywhere. the tradition is to sit by party but the new member class is over 50 members, we will spread out. just like the republican women taking power pitcher on the steps that we will

make a strong in rhode. >> there is just more light on what it divides people but we work toward common ground. >> what the senate when men do, and now there are 20 of us, we meet four times a year to have dinner together. bipartisan. rico by a barbara mikulski is rules what it is said at the dinner stays at the dinner. [laughter] we joke if we were running things we could deal with a lot of the problems probably more successfully. >> agree segue. deal feel a different set of responsibilities? >> and no.

>> you really do not. i see that on your faces. >> in the role model you talked about that it was hard on election day standing at the poll families would introduce me to the daughters we did not have those many were young. but with responsibilities, they are the same. >> this question is a little more global. what does gender equality mean to you and what does that mean for tangible qualities? any other thoughts?

>> more sensible shoes. [laughter] >> there is yet to be a good parade shoe. [laughter] >> we are joking that the reality is we still have way too many women around the world to don't have access to opportunities if we look at women throughout the world looking at poverty it is women and children and poverty ownership. we have to do a better job to address those issues. one piece of legislation on the floor this week was the disabilities rights treaty that presented the united

states the example to the rest of the world as something we should look to aspire to. sadly, that did not pass but that example we can set in the united states. unfortunately there are of the various where the doors of opportunity are not open to all women. >> there is a tremendous toll on women and children and families. an issue they would prefer not to talk about. as a young lawyer but one damage in the flowers that

he says those to me after he beats me up and puts them on my credit card. that shocks me what people live with with their day to day life because they're the most reliable income in the world but with the services of your of leadership we have got to address. >> also medicare and social security why women need that. working in high school or college you see the men and women in job column and it was important to me because to know that we had an economic impact that if you look at the poverty rate

they relied on as a security without company benefits we have not had the quality in those who have worked they contributed so much about protected in old age to not get the big job and those stores were closed. i am sure everybody feels the responsibility to make sure it does not happen again. that day are okay. >> to build on that there are areas