the war on terror had just begun and i started to see a lot of parallels between the cold war and the war on terror and the challenges that george w. bush faced in terms of preparing for the long-haul something that eisenhower spoke a lot of. and so i began to look at the role of civilians being played out in presidencies after eisenhower and my conclusion was that each president use them differently. if the committees were a reflection of leadership styles. ..

the book title is eisenhower signed group of fellas, that's a national security policy adheres to the great equation. what i want the readers to come away with his understanding of how important the great equation is too many and we need a higher morale. but can't cower inside afraid of a biological attack nuclear attack, but we have to make sure they aren't ordering kids over for the american people for a heavy defense program.

we have to make sure our national security is secure, that we do have what we need without having the overkill and for that it's a great equation and the difficulty for the president to make sure we balance that high spiritual morale, financial responsibility and yet still has strong defense. >> after the 2013 version if i saw that the committee station between john lewis, author of a cross that bridge and john carlos, co-author of "the john carlos story." >> good evening.

i am delighted, truly delighted to see all of you here this evening because this is an extraordinary evening and program. i am rob vaughan, which produces the book festival and programs. [applause] i am here to tell you this is the coldest book festival in history. it's a short history. 19 years of the nonetheless it is the coldest and does not appear to be getting better tomorrow or the next day either. sprint it began at 7:02 a.m. sunday. i'm sure none of you notice. we began that morning with the 19th annual virginia festival of books. next year, we might get a

comeback for the 20th, which will begin on march the 19th and run to the 23rd. so removing back a day. we expect it to be warmer nonetheless. i'd like to remind you that couple things. one is that we would like a match if you make sure your cell phones are turned off for now it's a good time to do that. i'd appreciate it. the other is how space will be up most of the evening. c-span is recording the event. if you are shy and don't want to appear on camera, you might do from time to time. but i don't think that will be necessary along the way. we are grateful c-span is making this possible. we are grateful to wells fargo an anonymous donor for contributing to the benefit of this evening. we thank them enough you for being here, too.

[applause] were also grateful to the office for diversity and equity in the uva renders [applause] we're grateful to them so ungrateful as always this book festival for the 200 or so volunteers who make it possible. 15 or 20 work you have to get things organized the fact is that this year. i think 206 events, though it's a moving target. we may have gone up a few. i once remind you you even though it saturday night, you still have not today be to attend 10 more focused on events tomorrow, so we hope you'll come and join us tomorrow as well. i'm very pleased this evening to

welcome someone. most of you who live in town know of the racket run shot in the work he and his face and you had done for some 30 years in this town to make it an extraordinary runners community. the laments formatter which benefits breast cancer research at the hospital and their civic mindedness for business and personal lives. [applause] mark will be introducing giancarlo spirit i'm also pleased to welcome kate damon. case businesses that graphic design business come of it is also gotten involved in arranging for speakers, in this

case, john lewis to be with us this evening. you might recognize her name. her mother has something to do with this book festival. [applause] first, mark lorenzoni. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. thanks for those really nice intricate three comments. well, you haven't seen the picture, the photo. i'm going to remind you of it. [cheers and applause] they say that a picture tells a

thousand words in the case of one of today's special guest, maybe no other sports photo speaks to us in so many different levels. as the 13 annual sports not back in new jersey 1968, i have several iconic sports photos. my bedroom walls and on my desk. willie mays, the catch. jackie robinson rounded third base and the screeching of this clique with the brooklyn dodgers uniform on heading home. roger bannister breaking the four-minute mile for the first time. cash is clay defiantly under surveillance and paired arnold palmer tyson is nicer in the year to 60 u.s. open and then some birdie carried out the field eyes pack or at least it did provoke one. no other sports photo captures as many emotions and says so many things so that tommy smith, johnny carlos, holding her close

tie in the sky and mexico city olympic games. and inspires, motivates, educates and assess. it even in your size as it reminds us the hatred and injustice are citizens endured at the hands of their fellow countrymen. today, just as i was 13 years old, i'm still a know how these two brave men took a chance and risk so much to stand up for millions of people. when i look at the photo and after reading dr. carlos' book, i'm reminded of the notion that the mentors for the near character and is simply a daunting question of how do you want to be remembered, one of our hose earlier today summed it up when he said even long after john carlos is physically gone, his influence would be much alive through the iconic photo. nothing could be a more revered

vacancy. in the case of.carlos, only two and two and half pages of this book describing his two minute meter bronze spinner race, enduring characters transcended the memory of denial for years so many of the things to be proud of. this time about bringing, 10200-meter records, joining nelson mandela, pat summitt, jimmy valvano, pat tillman and mohammed normally -- ali. he's proud of his countless kids he has counseled over the years. his wife, charlene and his children and one of his sons in the audience tonight, melita. he is 16 grandchildren he's proud of and a 99-year-old mother he's really proud of.

[applause] when you get to read his book, one of my favorite chapters and john spoke was the one that spoke right to my soul, the one that redefined it turned to so many use. i do anything for my mother. there's a story in there for john's mother cannot did outside of her apartment complex in harlem because there's so many caterpillars in these trees that are dropping onto her and affecting her, so she said inside the sassy apart it in the summertime and she wants to be outside, so sean is a young man, high school age at those and listed his supervisor and says we need to spray those trees. get out of here. he says i'm telling you my mother is suffering.

i hope so she can set him apart bench. he says i'm going to bring those trees down if you don't spray gun. whatever, he burned them down. last night in the middle of new york had nothing purslane to assist you giancarlo some giancarlo summit on the courage and bravery to let him in his medalist tommy smith of the stairs to help our country redirected scott and history. it's with great honor i along with my dear friend and manners, dr. wilder and nancy damon also. we all have the privilege of presenting the most extraordinary national treasure to you. and a second, please join me in welcoming dr. john carlos. but we are going to welcome kate damon next.

[applause] [applause] >> thank you so much. this is a wonderful, arresting a blessed day for me to come to charlottesville and received an ovation like this. it is extremely precious to me to be at the evening for a -- >> i have to go first. >> i'm sorry. [laughter] [applause] >> good evening.

no worries, no worries. said my name is kate damon. the manual might know my mother. i first met congressman lois in 2010 at a client's event in the image is funding an outgrowth of the jay liberty and justice for all award. my mother thinks you are the greatest. can i give you a hug? he said of course. in his recent black, "across that bridge" can erase love is the willingness to be beaten, go to jail, to be killed for betterment of society rather than live out your life is violent. his journey in life is a

testament of the statement. as a young man, lewis is inspired to be a part of the civil rights movement the sainted martin luther king on the radio during the montgomery bus boycott. he became a leader and a national sedan and participated on the freedom ride where he races i've often simply sitting in the fairway patrons. at the age of 23, he was recognized as one of the big six leaders of the civil rights movement. he was one of the architects of the march on washington and the keynote speaker on 1965 across the edmund pettis branch and some alabama. they intended to march from selma to montgomery to demonstrate the need for voting rights in alabama. they're attacked by state

troopers and a brutal confrontation known as bloody sunday. the congressman started an annual congressional pilgrimage with the faith and politics institute in washington and ever since then has led a delegation of bipartisan members of congress, civil rights leaders, clergy compensations, that to me most importantly, students of all ages to pass on the memory and experience is that those days to the next generation of marchers. i've now had the privilege of marching across that bridge twice the congressman lewis and a few weeks ago with the delegation were sitting in the pews of first that this church in montgomery, alabama where the police chief gave a speech about the role of the police during the civil rights movement and apologize to the congressman. he was so moved that he gave

his -- to the congressman as a symbol of reconciliation. he's the first police officer ever apologize to the congress then. caught back [applause] when i say is the most courageous human i've ever had the privilege of meeting, i really mean it because despite our than 40 arrests, physical attacks from the serious injuries, john moses shumate said as. ascus of philosophy nonviolence. commitment to share next. says with grace and patience and never veering from police in love. once enemies a lesson for us all. the congressman gives me hope it inspires me to be a better human and i'm so grateful for the sacrifice is he's made in life and the love he's given our

country, but moreover the world. he would say he's a humble man and everybody should be during this, but i'm pretty sure he's a superhero and his superpowers was. i matter how hard they beat you, love always wins. congressman john lewis. [applause] [applause] >> were going to start with a few minutes from each of these here this evening to talk about

anything they like to talk about, their lives, their own stories. we'll begin with trent three. >> well, forgive me. [laughter] i must've went to the restroom. [laughter] as i stated, it's a real honor and pleasure for me to be here in charlottesville and this has been stopped, i was about to say extreme pleasure and honor for me to be here with congressman lewis. we've been traveling parallel rows for a long time, but we never cross one of those paths until tonight. [applause] i'm just so thankful god this together before we leave to go be a one-on-one with the lord. he's a great human being and i'm so honored to be here to share

this evening with you tonight. get ready for a good show. >> thank you very much. dr. john carlos, i'm a study of i'm delighted pleased to be with you. thank you for your service. thank you for your great and good work. i want to thank the virginity at festival of books for having me here. i didn't grow up in a big city. i grew up in a farm in rural alabama 50 miles from the company. growing up there during the 40s and 50s, when we would visit the town of troy, visit montgomery for tuskegee or

birmingham, the white man, colored men, white women and my mother and father asked my grand parents and recruited parents, wife? they said that the way it is. don't get in the way. don't get in trouble. when they heard about rosa parks and the safety or loaded in the 10th grade. i heard about martin luther king jr. in 1957. became the next year in 1958 at the age of 15. my folks can't seem to get in trouble. dr. mengele. rosa parks and martin luther king jr. inspired me to find a way to get in the way. i was so inspired the 1956 at the age of 16, with my brothers and sisters and cousins at the

public library and troy, alabama trying to get library cards. trying to check out books. i never went back to that library until july 5th, 1998 with my buck, "walking with the wind." [applause] hundreds of blacks and white came. we had a wonderful program. food, something to eat, some to drink. at the end of the program, they gave me a library card. it says something that the distance we've come in the progress made. some of you in my book, "walking with the wind" and "across that bridge," i try to tell the story of steve inspired to move my

feet, to move my body and hair to the philosophy and discipline of mind violent before any seven, before any stand another theater, and a march come from selma to montgomery for freedom ride or the march on 10, we prepared ourselves. we studied philosophy and the economy attempted to do in south africa. they cited what they accomplished in india. we studied the great religions of the world and one of his time for assisting in, not simply as a tech, but as a way of life, as

a way of living. we redeem the soul of america and to create the beloved community. your introduction i did it arrested a few times. 40 times during the 60s and since i've been in congress, former times around the issues in south africa in sudan. though he never gave up during those days. we never gave in. instead of being eaten, left by the unconscious, having a concussion on the bridge, i don't believe in the power of love. i still believe somehow it somewhere the book is saying we can overcome and create one

community, one family, one house that we all live in the same house. not just american house, but the roadhouse. it doesn't mother were black or white, latino, asian american or native american. we must stay with our house and hold the house down. thank you so much. [applause] >> mark lorenzoni started a story about even some caterpillars, but he didn't finish it. i wish he would finish it because you read the book and know how it ends. >> put see if i can refresh my memory. one day my mom was coming home

from work. i was born and raised in harlem, new york between two famous night clothes. the cotton club and we was high steppers. so we moved from lenox avenue to the first project is built in new york, harlem river house. my home is a domesticated worker as i was a youngster and then she matriculated on to become a nurse at bellevue hospital. she gave up her nice to work to make a few extra dollars. she would come home in the morning. we were downstairs playing stick ball in the project and all the other mothers to be sitting downstairs doing their thing and my mother would come in and give a nod and she goes straight to the building. this would happen every day, five days a week. one may i approached her and

said mom, you never go downstairs and sit on the bench of the women sitting down here. are you stuck up? and another that demands a boy, what did you say? said mama, are you stuck up? and mom turned to me with tears in her eyes. she said i never thought it was better than anyone. i never raise my kids to think there were better than anyone. how come you don't close it down on the bench and talked to the other mothers? i can't: the operating room with rashes on my body. the caterpillar is very, very fragile, light weight. they land on your neck and if you reach back to jail to brush it off, it'll pass. and when it asked by the the time you move your hand to your side, you have a rash.

my mom couldn't go down there with rashes to work. so i took it upon myself to say well, let's take it to the top. what do i go see the manager of the project? i wanted to talk to a fellow say we have a problem. what's the problem? caterpillars. he told me to get out of his office. i said i live here and i have a right to be here, but i didn't know they had a panic button. he pushed the panic button in the next day the police showed up in the project and god came in and wrestle me out of the office. i broke loose and somehow was raised in my household by my dad. he would give me 48 hours. i looked inside your 48 hours to solve the problem.

[laughter] he looked back at me please click to me and saturday threatening him? no, sir, i'm not threatening him, but moneyback guarantee. i waited 48 hours. i told him i'll take care of it. i'm a man of my word. i went to a friend of mine gas station and said look, mr. gardiner, my dad told me to come over and get some gas. raise the gas can? you didn't give me one. i found the biggest one. where's the money? hill said he'd take care of you later. i felt it up and went into the project in total the women, go upstairs and my partner said what is he going to do now? i went to the first tree at

least six matches at the time. i threw it on the trees and the fire jumped out so big it finished me. i ran over and jump in before and i must've been about 10 years between the trees. it's about that time, that time i had the surgery come here come the police running down. when up enough, they didn't know whether to fight the fire are wrestle me down. i moved to the forestry. by the forestry they threw me on the ground and may recall i did not bring the trees. every time i think about them, they think about me. last night in any case, from that point they took me downtown and been introduced to john mom.

i remember when they let me out and gave me a court date to go back. i've never been in trouble with the law. my mother is still in paris. another is a problem in. i don't know what you did step forward. i'm not going down there. i'm not going to watch them send it. she says you cannot dictate to avoid a quarter. so they get down to the courthouse and i remember my dad saying son, i think you crossed the line this time. i'm looking on in light, if you don't think i'm coming at you now, as a judge will send you away. so they get to the court and the judge looks at me and says to my father, does your son have any mental these? [laughter] my father said none that i know of. why would he do what he did? my father said that's a very

good question. the judge asked me, by a diaper in the trees? sasi mother one day why she didn't come down and she gave me a story about the caterpillars and she thought it right to go to management and ask why with a spray the trees. in my area with a black area. we would go a few miles away to the white neighborhood. for the trees minus the caterpillars. down the spread my trees in the projects. so the judge asked, when's the last time you spray these trees? the manager tells the judge, i don't really know. i'll have my records with me. he says do you remember the last time a spray quiet my father

said i can't give your day, but my son was in the wading pool last time. so we said you don't have your papers with you. let's go to lunch. when you come back, bring your papers with you. my father told me going out to lunch, don't look good, son. he has a little thin older. one slip of paper in it and the judge says this is all you have? i don't know where the files are. he showed me how smart he was. said anyone here from the housing authority. call up the new york city housing authority. he came down with all sorts of papers passing through. do you have to papers to determine how often these individuals then 92 spray these

trees? effect back in 1952, something like that. how many times that at this time span that they not traded tree? they sprayed it all the time. he looked back and said are you sure? my father said you can ask anyone in the project. by that time, they fire the manager and the courthouse and i started looking a little better to my dad. [laughter] it didn't look as crazy to my neighbors. the thing that caught me, but really let me know i was on the right light is in my father said to me under that in the court room. he said johnny come you've done a lot of things in your life. i you quite a few times. he said you never turned away from what you did. your steadfast. he said that today, i want you

to know i'm one of the proudest father's on the third. that's not it. i thought that was that, too. [laughter] but then he went on to tell me that at that time as the 13, 14 years old. he went on to tell me how much respect he had for me as a son. i thought i was out of sync. said i respect you. i love you, but she never expected father to look at his young son are kid and tell you how much pride and respect they have a new. i respect you. i honor you. that put me away and made me realize that not about setting a precedent to make things right when it's wrong. i'm sure my mother was in the only parent who didn't fit as a result of those caterpillars.

where the situation of life and times for all of us know something is wrong, but we have to step forward to make it right. fear retaliation, fair loss of employment, fear of loosing your friend. you have to realize the changes he tried inmate and that goes to anyone this audience that will walk you at the street. the change you make is for you. the changes for your kid to come after you. when you buy this house is so much, it not for you. i learned early in life that june 5, 1945, the day i was born in which ever comes when i die, i learned early that those two days will be irrelevant and

doesn't mean a thing. what will mean something is what you do of your life between those two days because that's the character to be judged on. i thought it was my responsibility because my mother should not be subjugated to pain in the house because someone is not doing their job. he ran across this every day and your people are not doing their jobs that people suffer and sacrifice as a result of it. step up to the plate. have no fear because the only person you should have fear for his god. rest assured you will see the indian. [applause] >> i think everybody in the idea that is about the freedom

writers. i was interested than the first one never 13 of you. babysat today. it's an extraordinary experience. >> the freedom ride occurred in 1961, the same year president barack obama was born. in 1961, but people and white people couldn't board a greyhound bus seated together, leaving moshing nbc, traveling through virginia, north carolina, south carolina, georgia, alabama, mississippi on her way to new orleans about the possibility of being arrested and that's what happened. i was clec did is one of the original freedom riders. by matt on may 1st, 196121

years old, all of my hair and a few pounds lighter then. we went through a period of training and orientation and i'll never forget it. major, 1961, we all went down to a chinese restaurant in washington d.c. growing up in rural alabama. i never had chinese food, never been to a chinese restaurant. and that night, we had a wonderful tale and someone said you should eat well because this may be the last supper. the next day on may 4, 1961, the group boarded a greyhound bus. we traveled through the state without any real problems.

the first incident occurred in north carolina when a young black men attempted to get a shoe shine in the waiting room at a so-called weight armor shop was arrested and taken to jail. the next day he went to trial and the jury drops charges against him. the two of us attempted to get off a bus and roxio, thought carolina who were attacked by a group of young white man cometh he to much wine in the pool of what. all these many years later in february on nine, came to my office in 10. the fan had been encouraging him to seek out the people and he

spoke to someone in the press and told him i was in to. he came to washington. he said he wanted to apologize and he wanted me to forgive him. his son started crying. he started crying. i started crying. he hugged me, i hugged them both. i call him brother and since then i've seen them for their times. that is the power of the freedom ride. that's the power of love and nonviolence. this is the movement was all about. the greater magnitude public transportation all across the south. during that time, there was an attempt to burn the bus between

atlanta and armenia, the greyhound bus. does on the trail with us were beaten in birmingham and an angry mob ♪ aomori and it was there that president kennedy and robert kennedy the attorney general's brother that they had worked out an arrangement that would be good when he arrived in montgomery. they made an arrangement that there'd be a patrol car every 50 miles between birmingham and montgomery and a private plane flying over the bus and the montgomery police department would be better to meet us at the greyhound bus station in montgomery. an angry mob if you have a pen and a pad, a camera, we're in real trouble. destroy their paths in the

canvas and turned en masse in receipt date was beaten. they left unconscious on the ground. the 52 years later, it was this young chief who is not even warrant three weeks ago. three weeks ago today they came to the old church where i first met dr. king and reverend abernathy and apologized for what happened. [applause] >> there are so many of these stories. terrific stories. what kept you two going? how do you sustain -- but noted they do? detect a little bit about that

just a minute ago. >> what motivated me is his word, troublemaker. i've heard the word from what i was knee-high to grasshopper. i was a troublemaker. troublemaker because you wrote in to see people who didn't have food. the congressmen, the troublemaker. i sat back and let the disparate troublemaker from every good, every angle i could look at it. after a while it became a division of people. i saw a skinny guy and in the company and can't be paired with all the dust settle, gandhi was called a troublemaker. come across the pond is a guy down there in georgia by the name of martin.

other good deeds he did in his life in the dust has settled company called mark and a troublemaker. i can go to harriet tubman, underground railroad. i said back then i go back to south africa and think about a guy incarcerated for 28 years and think when he came out to the underlying elsen and ella, troublemaker. my favorite hero, robin hood say it's a real mess. the bottom line is they call him a chocolate maker. used think about the vick jury stand, peter norman. the troublemaker. he made me look over a shoulder high sockeye busway people forget about for some reason and

maybe you can figure out why. they called him a troublemaker and not even mention his name no more unless john brown. i fed troublemaker, jesus christ. they called him a troublemaker. so when all the dust settled disfiguring good can do need to be called a troublemaker. wap back many people do deter me. i'm a troublemaker and i noticed a man in and i know who never giancarlo says eminem right in the fight to take the liquid to keep on clicking, so be it. the stronger i got.

i came back from mexico city. it wasn't bad for me and her young son over there. i felt the pain because my son suffered, my wife suffered. all of my kids suffered. when you do shop up your kids and tell them to take her clothes and put it against the law and have your way think you lost your mind. you have to think about the fight goes on. i have to say my kids so when i leave here, my kids will know i still fight to make this a better earth. i threw it in the fireplace until my wife, get about the bad. because when you stand with justice, you loose your job. you lose hearing. you can't pay your electric bills, so you don't have heat the house.

the unit income in this fight to win. i'm not concerned about the web team. i'm concerned about the vick jury. again about the start. it's about the finish. everybody in here as i stated earlier, when i came in this idea, my job is to reach one person in here. not to touch everybody. one person. johnny, reach one person like you're talking to a thousand. if there's a thousand linear, i want you to focus on talking to that one. i learned how to talk with my ears. i can see. i can speak silently.

imagine how many people you thought that every spoke volume as a young man by the name of tommy smith or young man by the name of peter norman, a young man by the name of john carlos didn't utter one word, but it's so powerful. it's a beacon for society. we didn't have a badge for black people. last time i checked that, all of us in this auditorium and then found that not here. so they sit back and says goodbye thing, a militant thing, they're trying to tear down america. listen to the basketball tournament and football tournament. he got his reputation off of me,

off of mr. smith, mr. durbin because they cause us? confirmed troopers. so you can to put me with neo-nazis. he embraced him and promoted had been given a whole bunch of money is that the same team in their dealing with everyday. it comes a time in your life when you have to make a decision, too. a matchup this real quick. when i was a young guy, i had a vision. how could they make life better for my son? how can i make life better for your kids? is sitting assembling? i met with dr. king and dr. king told me something profound. he said i'm going to support the boycott because you can make a statement and you don't have to name, kill or harm anyone.

it's heavy, dr. king. when i said i want to boycott the olympic games, it just takes someone else and put them in my spot. i have to get my compadres, on thick friends to come out to boycott the olympics. when i talked to him, he said i can't wait cause the games. i trained too hard. i can't boycott. et cetera you want to get on a train, take the rights of the commit dialog and discussion about a boycott of the olympic games? because i understand the theory about why you want to boycott, but i'm not ready to sacrifice for that because i trained too hard. are you addicted undertrained clicks were rolling?

were rolling down the tracks that we hear other people outside the wood though with american flags waving in the god bless america. if you sit back and think about when they came back from vietnam was going to vietnam, they were singing the same song. only difference is we were warriors then athletics. who's more superior? through the discussion that came up and they said i have a better understanding why a boycott it be necessary. you need rehab or consent this? we can actually come together? is it possible we can pull up? the writer to stop the trade. wary step in stopping the train? we stopped the train. we can have a commitment that's a possible boycott of the keep

it confined ourselves. we have to let the world know. we started when the train again on look out the window. they're gone. they started shooting the train, fire running all through the train. and now here we are 44 years later and people sit back and say john carlos is an icon. john carlos is a legend. john carlos is a hero. san jose state led me away. if you wanted to come to the right to do it and put it in the petition of education. when they take a picture of the

statue comic i think that's a beautiful statue. i think i should have my name on the base. move over in the picture. i think i should be in the picture. i tell them, stop for a second. you can't get a break with your name on it on the base of the statue. why not? we ran together. that don't depict me taking the baton. you can't get in the picture. we ran together. i set out to you what, i think you can get in the picture, but you have to step forward. thought it a step forward and open up your shirt for me. roll up your sleeves. pull up your pant legs. and i'm looking for burns. prints on your chest or not

cornerback. show me some fire burns. turnaround, check his site for you it mr. norman, come over here. show me your bird. you want to see my burns? demeans and things got hot come you jump ship and got off the train. to be at the same crossroads in your life, too. it's not easy to change and say we have to work together to make this a beautiful planet. it is beautiful and longtime saying this rule is greater than god's will. think about it. that argument right now about erewhon versus alcohol. god put marijuana on this earth. vantive god from the marijuana through to the curb and so not

because of johnny walker red down here. [laughter] limit for samarra boros and some cools down here, some red bowl. in my neighborhood and in the congressman's neighborhood is so, and harlan i had four-mile someone glock and three liquor stores all up and down harlem. if we look right now come you go to any ghetto in america. you still see them off of the tag and all the poison think did to the kurds. that's why i say -- listen, my man, do me a favor. when i came here to do some economy well plotted. i do not like applause. i am not here for applause.

i'm here to give you a god given to give you. you don't need no cause to tell you the truth. i'm just like you. i'm not going to podgy relief, but i'm going to thank you for coming. from now on, if anyone applauses for anything trant five status, i'm going to escort you out of here. i love all of you out, but i don't want your applause. >> you read a good deal about faith family heard about john carlos and the beloved community. i know from reading that faith was a large part of what motivated you to continue to persevere in the beating he took. would you elaborate on that or even respond to john carlos? >> it is my belief that when you see some thing that is not right, that it's not fair, that

it not just come the people have been put down for any group because of their race, their color, nationality, gender, orientation, whatever, you have an obligation. you have a mission and mandate to do something about it. going back to something mr. carlos said about trouble, i thought it was my mission, the accumulation to get into trouble, necessary trouble to make things right. they be saying in effect desired it done. you just have to act. you have to become an instrument. you have to become a tool for

saturday ton. you must play a role and say it no place. his site drama. we're all in this stage. where actors. we have to act for good. >> thank you. [applause] >> i think you are fighting a losing out on the applause there. >> i want to add one thing to at the congressman said. when you sit back and think about having to do things in life, life is not easy for anyone. and it's really a lot easier when you say i'm not concerned about me as much sense as your

about those that can't fend for themselves. what i'm trying to say is just imagine you live on the bottom of the hill and little kids there at the plate every day and they have a stop sign on the hill when cars come down every day.