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and. >> our national security is secure, we do have what we need without having the overkill. for that with is the equation and the difficulty for the president to make sure rebalance that high spiritual brow with responsibility and yet still have a strong defense
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>> good afternoon. president of the clare boothe luce policy is to to an organization named after the very pro-life. those with the c-span audience all over america and all over the world, welcome to the march conservative network luncheon thank you for being with us today and a special thanks to our partner the heritage foundation and brigit wagner for hosting the conservative women's network with us every month. kristan hawkins as president of students for life of america directs the mission and strategy and has more than tripled the number of campus pro-life groups in the united states. and with the biggest pro
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life conference in the nation this year she's offered the first book called "courageous" students abolishing abortion in this lifetime''. a great book we will be signing after words. the official spokeswoman and appeared on many tv networks including fox, cnn fox, cnn, christian broadcasting. and has with those papers including "the washington times" and has launched several investigations into planned parenthood" end quote. she previously worked for the 2004 bush sheeny reelection campaign and she also served as the george to be bush's administration at
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the u.s. department of health and human services center for faith based in community initiatives. says high-school kristin has been an advocate for the unborn and i hope you'll tell us about that. in 2005 sheikh graduated summa cum laude where she majored in political science with the hope to become a full-time pro-life activist and she did. she lives with her husband and her two sons gunner and bear. don't you love those names? [laughter] the battle for the lives of unborn children i is the emotional for most of us. on both sides of the issues. for me, the last couple of months looking and sonogram pictures of these to precious little babies.
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i've about to become a grandmother this summer of twins. those babies are human beings and so beautiful and already so distinctive already five months, they move around, push each other , it brings it home, it really brings it home when they're in your own family family, your own babies about to be born. overcome recent years i have seen more people shifting to the side of respect for unborn life. i believe that kristan hawkins has been a critical part of that. please join me now to welcome kristan hawkins. [applause] that is so exciting, twins. i remember i got my first ultrasound for my son the machine was messing up. very early in a pregnancy
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and they said we see to yolk sacs to have twins in your family? no. i was in a panic i cannot imagine having to twin the gunners. that would be crazy. to talk about the pro-life generation y rewrote the book and introduce you to those who were featured in the book. not too far from hear the supreme court ruled in favor of a 27 year-old a relatively unknown lawyer who had an abortion collagen they ruled in her favor with trophy way dan along with a companion they both legalized abortion in all nine months of pregnancy in our country for whenever reason. in all nine months most people do not realize today abortion is legal for all nine months.
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i am a 27 year-old son and i was reading about sarah and her fight to get roe v. wade up to the supreme court and i am the same age she is in all of us sitting in this room today, if we were born after january 22, 1973, all of us are survivors of those two decisions. each and everyone of us could have been aborted for $350. with our mothers were pregnant with us they told our moms they were nothing but a blob of tissue. we didn't matter. today, said the planned parenthood the nation's largest abortion provider in the country tell us the same exact thing. the undeniable fact is this generation is a pro-life generation. every poll that has been taken in recent years shows
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this is the first use generation since the handing down of rv wave that actually pulls pro-life purposes counterintuitive to what many of us are told what many adults think. that the millennial some of this generation will always be liberal not until they get up and get a job to pay taxes and have kids they'll become more conservative. but that is not the case with abortion. there was a poll done last year that said this generation is more pro-life than our parents. and reading a steady from professors at georgetown university. they are pro abortion, in favor of legalized abortion and talking about the mysterious case of the disappearing pro-choice generation because they showed the attitude of this generation toward abortion and that coming up behind
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us, high-school and middle school are the most pro-life ever and they will trend throughout the whole life, a pro-life and they don't know where they will find the pro-choice side of the equation. while here in washington as the supreme court legalized abortion, they got it wrong. they pay.as a women's rights issue and attempting to fix what they saw as a new equality in the workplace and society, with they ended up doing was the ultimate act of discrimination. the ultimate act of discrimination where you can decide to take the life of a person simply because how old they are and where they live. pay with the right of the mother over the rights of the child. so why is this generation
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and pro-life? had to rewrite this book and how to abolish -- abolish abortion? even as i feel old at 27 some of us were born with the big here band of the '80s are the grunge rock band of the '90s but we have seen that develop terrific -- differently because we have seen the ultrasounds of our brothers and sisters. it has always been available for us. it has never just been a blob of tissue. we all go to google and typing the word abortion you have seen the bloody pictures of those who have been killed from abortion and we all know someone who has had an abortion. one out of two women will have at least one abortion in their lifetime. we have the someone who has had an abortion.
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so this is how we come to the pro-life generation of. was anybody at the march for life this year with 650,000 other people? did you see the overwhelming majority of those that were here? they were under 25. the get the media coverage of the day even ms nbc had young people holding the i am the proleg generation signs. i couldn't help but wonder when right before it started to use no nancy kenyan, cecile richards, was planned parenthood thinking as they see this entire generation march? what they were seeing was their support for their cause slip away. there already seeing it when
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nancy keenan this is the organization that pushed the legalization of abortion in the '60s, she resigned last may she cited she cited there's a lack of pro-abortion young leaders and she had to step aside to allow young person to fill her shoes there is a poll that she cited in her resignation about the lack of intensity, the intensity gap between pro-life than pro-abortion people. and interesting press release put out before the march for life they have chosen to space be used the word pro-choice a script the word out of their vocabulary and instead two weeks ago "politico" talked about the
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new president of the successor of naral now instead of using the word choice they have to redefine because the term has change. change? after 41 years now it is changing? this is evidence to what we are talking about. evidence why this generation will abolish abortion because they know through market research they are told that abortion is a toxic term that is why when planned parenthood goes to high schools and middle schools to do six -- six education did not talk about the word it is a toxic word for them. word to restart? what do we tell this generation? we talk about the greatest human rights cause what do we tell people to do?
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start telling your story. it has impacted each and every one of us. those that may be hurting from abortion we need to step out of the world of hypothetical is and in to real-life situations. last year i started to write the book, i do a lot of my riding in airports and i was trying to think how can we show people what this generation thinks? i can show poles of daylong how many groups and college campuses have many pro-life groups with pro-abortion groups but it is boring
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because it is numbers and how do we show people this is a generation that can end the abortion? through stories. mr. interviewing the students i picked out 12 and as we interviewed them each has come from different walks of life and has a different way they feel about abortion but of all the students fell one turn it kept coming to the mind was creation. i never thought i would write a sad book it is interesting because some of these will cool you down and lift you up but it is interesting because these are real-life stories we're putting it together and i said the know-how of our donors will feel because guess what? most people had sex before
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they were married. all of the people in the book are sinners. these are real life messy situations. sometimes older folks get upset when we talk about that is what this generation is going through or 80 percent of our peers are having sex before marriage of course, we have unplanned pregnancies. so we start off with the first chapter about rebecca i never heard a few weeks ago speaking at the first time ever at a legislative rally and i was enthralled by her story and i wanted to know more. she was raped and went to college and misery and was raped repeatedly by someone she viewed as a friend. most people don't realize the majority of rapes are performed or committed by
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people you think are your friend. she didn't understand what was happening and it was interesting she never had sex before it was the first sexual experience, she was raped and became pregnant a few months after she realized and said i have got to do something. she was a christian and a new abortion was wrong people always told her that but she thought that was my only way out. my parents are going to kill me, i have to drop out of school and become a single mom. so she talked with the rapist in he was getting money for the abortion and puncher in the stomach a few times and was disappointed that didn't work but a dorm mate said i know what is wrong. what is happening? she sat down and listened to
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a back and said you don't have to have the abortion, do you know, that? at that moment she decided not to but to continue carrying her child because her story is the first of all, but every story or a woman was considering abortion was the turning point* is when one person told her she did not have to do so she chose life and became a single mom, had to drop out of college and had to read enroll in a state school and go to work and go to class to take care of her baby vichy talks about her story and the life of her son and she never looks back and does not regret the decision that she made. another story is from a survivor there are survivors of an abortion because we all could have been imported some people came closer than they knew. my mom almost aborted my
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friend she was on the table but melissa is in the book and she had about a terrible childhood that you can imagine with the father who was physically and emotionally abusive so many times you hear people say we should have abortion because it is better to be dead than abused she had a terrible childhood and her father said she should have been aborted by the three others because she was a girl like them and she watched a young age her father punch her mother and beat her to the point* of miscarriage for her other sibling and remembers being trapped in her home closet for hours at a time when her dad would lock her in but she also remembers she went to a catholic high school so one day they had a speaker talk about abortion.
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she only heard about it because she heard her dad say she wished she would have been but did not know about it so she started a pro-life group despite her dad's abuse and threats to get her to stop she went to college and actually had a priest kick her out because she was to activism oriented. but today she works at the nation's most watched network in the country and she wants to give up and work for us because she wants to go help other young people who face the same thing she did and help them take a stand for life. melissa talks about one of the fundamental driving forces behind your getting involved because she could
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see how the violence only bread more violence. another story in the book, we do love men in the pro-life movement even though i have an office full of women we do have one man steve correct in a very secular home and went to a rock concert in college that he was tricked into going to a crashing concert in became a christian and said it is wrong but the pro-life group came to campus and acephate host graphic images. he said why not? you let the group come and show images of aborted children, genocide victims and then he recently recalled a student body president of his university
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for the pro-life display. he goes to the death threats he received on campus they had to recall elections because he won the first one then they called to do another and he talks about the legal help defending lines of freedom then when he started working for us today he leads his own pro like industry in california helping to fund raise to help women and men facing unplanned pregnancies. another story of julia. sheet is in a sensitive and ms. quiet. i and his boisterous. in high school she talks about how she loved this one teacher and in class the teacher was talking about feminism and how abortion was a great thing and she said what? i always knew it was wrong i cannot believe my favorite
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teacher was telling it was right to so she got involved in the pro life movement in high school and started our students for life and came to intern with us she talks about how she stands in front of the abortion facility every day and has created her own brochure with their own personal cellphone number and talks to women going into the center. we have amazing pictures of her holding babies that she has personally saved in front of an abortion facility. added know how many of you come to this with a preconception of the pro-life movement she is not the old crusty may and shouting at women but a very small, soft-spoken beautiful young girl who is praying and offering help. she drives the girls from the facility to the crisis pregnancy center, meets with
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them when she can but julie is interesting because they found out what she was doing a to a brochure from the girl's hand and started to send her death threats to her house. they actually wrote handwritten notes and she talks about despite some scary situations, abortion facilities are not located in the best part of town. she talked about some scary situation she had to face as a young woman in the middle of the city but she never stopped trusting what god had planned for her life and she knows this is the work she has been called to do and will continue doing it. another story by megan actually contacted us right after restart his students for life seven years ago. we had a how to get started
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group in your school she was trying for the second time that her liberal california campus we met and it is training to give her of the material she needed. the first day on campus she had a display we give them literature, and sheets and say signing at people that are pro-life to join your group and jessica walked up and said i wish you had been here last semester i just had my second abortion but i did not want to. some may get started to talk to jessica to find out she was pregnant with her second child, she didn't want to do it and the boyfriend's parents said do it and she finally went to somebody at the church notice the people that she went to and the lady said to have it so she did.
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so meighen became instant friends with jessica despite the roman catholic she was from oakland oakland, african-american, l ow income family i think jessica was the first to graduate from college normally would not be in the same sorority or sit together in the cafeteria especially a large state school there bringing her to the meetings and she was there when she tested her a couple months later that she was pregnant for the third time and she did not want to do it but she knew abortion was the only way she could continue her education so she drove over to her house to convince her you can be a mom and a student. you don't have to drop out. we'll help you through this
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and during the pregnancy and after and macon was there as of burst coach and godmother when the baby was born has often in the pro-life movement if any ready has ever worked at the pregnancy resource center when people come they have broken relationships in their lives. there is something that has led them to that point* when they come to strangers for help and what is interesting about jessica seeking real social justice it means you are repairing broken relationships. what do they mean? the people that we interviewed it has been amazing because it is often just one person. that you don't have to have the abortion.
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and it is fascinating she is a college graduate with a full-time job and is out of this cycle the she did not have to drop out and had someone there to help her. these of the stories we have in the book but it is so a important talking to young people i say to your story. i could be on campus all day long debating people which i love to do to talk about the philosophy, a human-rights but what happened is that that's not true. but to say right year life begins at conception. you would not believe it if it is alive but i can assure you right here. they just want people to argue with me. i don't know why, i am
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always right to. [laughter] but when you tell somebody you're sorry of somebody you know, they have to listen to you and consider what you are saying and a lot of us post 1973 children everything is relative there is no right or wrong all religions are equally valuable we hear this all the time it is no wonder absolute right and absolute wrong in this country and abortion is always the absolute wrong it is never just a real human rights issue so today i ask to pick up the book you can give free chapter online to discuss the story for free and read the stories and start earning the stories to start talking about abortion. don't be afraid to talk about it. you can be a courageous abortion abolitionist maybe
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not as crazy as i am the you can still do that by simply talking about the issue. i am unapologetically antiabortion. i am against abortion. it is a human rights violation. we know this generation is pro-life. americans today more than ever before denounce abortion. don't be afraid to talk about this. questions? [applause] >> we have emily holding the microphones.
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>> questions? >> that was a great speech. looking at a younger generation do you see it growing in minorities and other demographics? ico lot of young white women but is it getting out to african-americans or hispanics or asians? remake the polls are across the board and across racial lines for it is fascinating especially in the african-american community it disproportionately placed their community they make up 13% get 36 percent of all abortions are performed with african-american women. the majority of abortion facilities located in urban african-american or hispanic neighboan african-american or hispanic neighborhoods are next to a college campus. you are right. interestingly it is harder for us to get african-americans and
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hispanic women to speak out about abortion. we know abortion is a bad thing because nobody talks about it. nobody says i will be there and is have to stop by nobody wears a t-shirt and i had the abortion campaign because nobody talks about it because of a pretty understands it is a tragic thing that to even more so if you poll african-americans alone without any other race they will pull pro-life but it is less talked about in the communities. >> tell us about your own journey into the pro life missionary work. >> that was easy.
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i and a door, my plan was to become an aeronautical engineer i won a scholarship to space camp and i needed this summer internships prague long jack -- summer internship program in the lead in my church said would you like to come? i was kind of pro-life but there are exceptions kind of where most of america is. so i started to work at the pregnancy resource center because the women were so excited because i was the average age of their clients coming in. i was shoved into a room for two weeks to learn everything you can about abortion and learn the birds and the bees and my mom and i still have never had that talk. [laughter] and that is with a passion
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came from watching these women and they talk about seeking social justice they come in at the same time every month that is right and started that i have to do something in started a pro-life group and it was super controversial, as always stressed out by those the only person ever tried to start a pro-life group in high school. my pro-life work got me interested in politics now i'm dating myself just been started on fox news with politics and i will go to college to be the policy side major and become a lawyer and overturn roe v wade. i went to college it as a freshman i started a pro-life groupon campus which was not without controversy again and that is how i got involved and as far the president bush reelection campaign and was offered a job that the
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initial step to go into the pregnancy resource center, volunteering time, learning about the issues coming counseling women and adding the activism and education component. most people don't understand this is the targeted age high school and college kids re targeted there's reason why 79 percent of planned parenthood's are within 5 miles of a college campus. i thought that was so important. that is how i got started. >> what about overturning roe v wade? >> with a pro-life movement there is different strategy is. people would disagree i was at this apec meeting who strongly disagree about my ideas.
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it passed to change within our hearts and we have to force politicians to stand up for our issue. that is what we need to focus on. people in washington will start listening when they know their constituents are against abortion. that is what i talk about being courageous it is extremely extremely important. we did a lot the day on capitol hill and it was fascinating because we had purple t-shirts and we went into the blue dog democrat offices they thought we were pro-abortion they never had seen pro-life bobby before. so i believe the stars was changing our hearts but we try to have a focus group right now this is the pro-life generation. leander's to an abortion is that we know the truth but when you ask if they should be overturned we lose the issue.
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the reason is i believe because they cannot imagine a world without it. people get freaked out. like my cellphone and face but going back to the '50s? absolutely not. you can survive and america can survive without a legal abortion. absolutely not. i talk frequently what will i do after it is made illegal. the supreme court case is the first that because then you have 50 simultaneous state battles. i am very much of over turning it as bad and constitutional law even pro-choice agrees with that to take the decisions back to the states because we will kick their butts but where is the human life begins at conception bill sponsored by senator paul but says that have political weight or satin statement?
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but it was fascinating but despite president hamas administration having a merciless assault against the pro-life movement since 2008, we are winning in the states we pass the most april legislation ever since president obama has been elected. there are no abortion facilities now i think in mississippi there is one in that sector needs to be shut down immediately. it is supply and demand issue. it is peer economics. >> on a the radio this morning of philadelphia us but the media is not
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exposing it with a black doctor? he was performing late term abortions and killing the children after they were born -- and killing them after they were born. infanticide is what happens in the delivery process and they tell me this is how they would kill my child they deliver the baby early so normally would be need to be taken to the new queue and they would kill it moments after it is born and obama actually says on record you can get the audio on mind is because it is kicking and moving does not mean it is alive. hello? but that is something the mainstream media is not paying attention to but that is what we should be even if you have approached type -- pro-choice friends this is the case to need to talk about because it is perfectly legal in
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philadelphia king is in trouble for doing late term abortions but you should see the pictures they have of how dirty this abortion facility was because in most states across the country here salons are more regulated than abortion facilities. there is no state inspection they are surgery is going on every day but they don't feel they want to inspect it? that is happening in maryland right now. he was bragging it was so big it could walk to the bus stop and killed it. he had baby's feet in jars in solution he was keeping in his office and dead babies in his freezer. it is not made up but an actual court case happening today. thank you for bringing that up. >> one of the arguments that
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you often hear is that if abortion is made illegal you will drive these innocent girls to the back alleys where they will be butchered what is your response? because a lot of people agree say i'd want to drive the women's movement back. >> and the doctor who founded naral the national association for repeal of abortion laws was the original name he passed away two years ago but he completely made up the number who were dying from illegal abortion he made the number 10,000. that is still the number planned parenthood uses a day. and there is an article by a
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planned parenthood vice president who came out to say the number of illegal abortion death was severely reduced because of penicillin in the fifties and forties. but she said then number was 500 per year. that is just getting facts straight first. not 10,000 but 500. also understand when abortion is made illegal those people doing abortions now, when those in 1973, what happened? it was not overnight abortion training school those who were doing it just advertised it. favor doctors doing abortion. they have the obi practice that did not tell people so what would have been? would happen is the people
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would just go under the radar and planned parenthood have had talks about this they have plans what they will do and how they go under the radar this is why they push medical abortion like the uphill the ru-486 because they know they have a public relations nightmare they need to get rid of the ugly facilities so they want everybody to pick up the pill at cbs to abort in the privacy of your home. the other thing to keep in mind i have used this before in debates, a bank robbery is kill a lot of people every year. to illegalize bank robbery? no. that is something else to talk about.
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get your facts straight first. veba would still be performed by doctors and just because you cannot legalize it is because you are afraid we are killing 1.2 million children every year. >> tammy chapters you have on campuses? >> 705 mainly college campuses last week we launch of high-school and holmes will initiative and then we launched of medical school initiative and that is something that the pro-life movement has not focused on because every medical school has a pro choice group because they try to train the future of those that were doing abortions in the '60s you don't go to minnesota $300,000 in debt to kill babies that is not
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high on the aspiration chart they cannot find enough people. >> if you go to students for life.organophosphate we have different activism guides and step by steps free activism kits and free postcards you could put out to start the discussion you need to put the discussion started. we win when the discussion is started. it is completely free for young people. >> what an excellent discussion. you're doing great things. [applause] we have a couple of little gaps then they will talk outside informally during lunch. we have our limited edition
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clare boothe luce policy coffee mug. [laughter] with their famous saying no good deed goes unpunished just like the mother of two sons. >> i am from the heritage foundation the brand new book from one leader of leading the way to another we thank you so much and we invite you to join us for lunch across the lobby where you can continue the conversation. thank you for joining us and we will be back next month. [applause]
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>> it is considered to be the most prolific a did a river in the world and that is probably very accurate. more lawsuits and laws created to regulate what is collectively known as the law of the river. there is probably 1315 major laws that have been and -- span the whole 20th century to talk about how much and who gets the water and how much you can take it every year and how to share it and our relationship with mexico and the water. the colorado river is 1,450 miles long not the longest river in north america by any means nor does it have the most flow, and maybe number seven with size but it drops
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8,000 feet from the source and the rockies and used to flow all the way down to the gulf of california reaching the ocean. it doesn't reach there very often anymore. only on rare occasions. there only seven states that depend in the river and to in mexico wyoming which probably has the least amount of water but most of the source tributaries of colorado and nevada, utah nevada, utah, new mexico and arizona and california. the basic water law in the west of prior appropriations is different from repairing water law. where water rights are connected to land and then you have a right to that water if you sell the land use all the water for the cannot sell the water
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without selling the land attached. but there is not enough water out here to have the law operate that way. so the minors very nearly in western history of the early 1800's coming to california made up their own agreement with each other whoever got there first got the water and they had the right to direct it were ever they needed it and sometimes it is a very long distance to send water where it is needed. the law of prior appropriations becomes law which comes down to first in time, first in rights if you get there first to have the most water and whoever comes next gets what is left over but there is one caveat of beneficial use. you have to put your water to beneficial used to have a
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right to it. people simply cannot get into a river to claim it and not use it if it is for a beneficial purpose then you have the right to it if you got there first. all of us here in the colorado river basin or watershed, we're talking between 35 and 40 million people in the united states and mexico, we all depend on the colorado river as the basic water source. there is other ground water and rivers the most in this area are tributaries that are part of the colorado river. we needed for everything. municipal use, to drink drink, houses, industry, min ing, and most part me the biggest is through agriculture we cannot grow anything without it. the land is very fertile and the growing season is very
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long so it is a good place to do agriculture although it is ironic it is a desert that you have to bring water here and that is the reason why we use the colorado and how it was first seen as an important source and the whole region because the people recognized they could tap the colorado river to read direct the flow. the federal government regulates the operations of the dam there are seven major dams on the river and a dozen others on a tributary and the bureau of reclamation which was formed early in the 20th century as part of the reclamation act is a body within the interior department in charge of overseeing dam operations the also operate dams and other rivers as well the colorado is almost exclusively the bureau of reclamation domain with the federal government is
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involved. at the same time you have competing interest, the states themselves have a certain amount of right to determine how their allocation is used and distributed. they fight amongst themselves along the supreme court case in american history was about the colorado river. throughout the 1950's was finally settled 1963 a big fight between arizona and california over how much water do they get are have a right to. there have been a few lawsuits prior to that time by arizona against california the major argument that california believed hoping to get as much water as possible, they were entitled to more than the four point* 4 million-acre share, that is how much we measure how much to cover 1 acre 1 foot deep but they believe they were entitled to more and
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certainly arizona was not entitled to the full 2. 8 million acres because there was not as much agricultural usage at the time in 1922 which remains law governing how much water california said they need to give up some of that water because one of the largest tributaries runs through the state so the water they pull off that river and the salt river is all part of the colorado so if you subtract that what is left is their share. arizona said are you kidding? and refused to sign the compact but just before the treaty with mexico. but the disagreement was
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there and california said know they cannot build the canal and the federal funding was blocked because california believed that would take away the water they needed, hence the lawsuit. once it finally was settled the judgment did come down in favor of arizona you cannot count the tributaries , they are entitled to the full 2.8 feet of water and if they could build a canal bring it they can do that so california had no toys to except the judgment and realize they have to live in a four point* four limitation. but after that, as soon as the decision is made arizona thinks it's build up to now that you have to have federal funding so they tried in congress and california blocked funding. in the and arizona had to
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almost give up some of the gain in the lawsuit is it was granted the right but in order to persuade congress to give them money for the central arizona project canal at that time it had to agree we have the most junior rights the canal would be cut off first in a time of shortage so arizona knows this. they're not happy about it and there has always been an anchor in california about them having more priority rights of the imperial valley began to divert the water first so their water rights are much more senior. however the good news for arizona everyone realizes we cannot just cut arizona off. we hope they realize that but in the research i found lots of examples of a tense
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to make an agreement about sharing shortages. this last november 2012 there has been progress. we give mexico one point* 5 million-acre feet and that is a treaty between united states and mexico. so arizona having the most junior right feels subset saying why shed mexico always get that because of the treaty while we have to have a shortage and less water runs down the canal and as shortage would cascade they do have a plan yet arizona first takes the cup for there negotiating to minimize that the california understands it passed to share. if you take prior
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appropriations on the way it is laid out arizona would simply suffered then maybe somebody next whenever the most junior right which is probably colorado because some of those projects are more recent as well as utah, was vegas would really suffer. but california has the most senior rights of that is the stress and california has understood that has to give up its water in time of drought they get the biggest share even though a lot of that water is pumped out of the of watershed to los angeles for a huge agricultural breadbasket of america. they will have to cut back but it is not really clear yet how that will go smoothly. but we're talking with that is as far as it has gotten. there are interim guidelines
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and the bureau of reclamation said to the states if you don't come up with an agreement then we will make it for you. if you don't want us to decide who has this shortage and who doesn't then get together for once to negotiate. that is what has started the process of profitable talks between the states in the base and. and another good thing is we are bringing mexico into the conversation we had left them out we thought since the river started it was all ours nevermind used to flow into mexico all of us have to sit and talk it is unclear how they will play out but i think everybody understands it is only fair to share.
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we will try. this book is a fascinating project and i have been interested in rivers for a long time and looking at the importance of this river has been a fascinating experience. it is an odd river it is a plumbing system or a big garden hose to think of it that way. we put lot of straws to tap the water that is a fascinating story. the story over time, the human relationship with the river, i can provide a microcosm, i think, of a much wider picture of the human relationships of the environment. we have no choice in the southwest but to figure out how to create a sustainable relationship with the colorado river without the hoover dam we would not be here. without the

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