>> kristan hawkins, executive director of the group students for life of america presents a collection of essays that focus on students' efforts to stop abortion. this is about 45 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon. i am michele easton, president of the clare boothe luce policy institute, an organization aimed at the very pro-life. welcome to those of you here in washington d.c. and those in the c-span audience all over america and the world. welcome to the march conservative women's network luncheon. thank you for being with us today and a special thanks to our partner, the heritage foundation and bridget wagner here for coasting the conservative woman's network with us every month. now, i am so pleased to introduce today speaker, kristan hawkins, the president of

students for life of america. as president kristin directs the mission and strategy of the organization and has more than tripled the number of campus pro-left groups in the united states. she has grown student for life national conference to become the biggest pro-live conference in the nation. this year she authored students for life of america's first book called courageous, students abolishing abortion in this lifetime, a great book, and we will be starting it -- selling it outside afterwards. kristan serves as the organization's official spokeswoman and has appeared on many, many tv networks including fox, cnn, christian broadcasting she blocks for a live news and has also been quoted many times in national and regional papers, including the washington times, post, and many others. under her lead, students for life of america has launched several successful investigations into planned parenthood with kristan planned

parenthood -- with cresson herself goingndercover on several occasions. previously she worked for the 2004 bush-cheney reelection campaign and the republican national committee and served as an appointee in the george w. wish to ministration at the u.s. department of health and human services center for faith-based and community initiatives. since high-school kristan has been an advocate for the unborn, and i hope you're going to tell us a little bit about that. in 2005 she graduated summa cum laude from bethany college in west virginia where she made it -- majored in political science with the hopes of becoming a full-time pro-life advocate and she did. she was married and has two sons , gunnar, for, and bear, three. don't you love those names? gunner and bear. you know, the battle for the lives of unborn children is an

emotional one for most of us, for many people on both sides of the issues. for me, the last couple of months, have really enjoyed looking at sonogram pictures of these two precious little babies i am about to become a grandmother this summer of twins. those babies are human beings, and they're so beautiful. there are already so distinctive. just add about five months, and they move around. they push each other. it is really bringing it home, the passion that we have for this when they're in your own family to mature on davy's babies. about to be born. over recent years i have seen more and more people, both young and not so young shifting over to the side of respect for unborn life. i believe that kirsten hawkins has been a critical part of the swing of the pendulum. please join me in a welcoming

kristan hawkins. [applause] >> so exciting. i remember when i got my first ultrasound. the machine was messing up and it was early in a pregnancy. recede to saks. see you have to lend in your family? our was like, no. i was in a panic. i cannot imagine having to twin gunners. it would become a crazy. i will go into why we wrote the book and introduce you to some of the people who are featured in the book. forty-one years ago seven men not too far from here, the supreme court, ruled in favor of a 27-year-old relatively unknown lawyer who actually had an abortion in college. there ruled in her favor in the roe v wade case. along with its companion, they

both legalized abortion and all nine months of pregnancy in our country for whatever reason. most people in america actually -- i have to repeat this, and all nine months to most people in america do not realize that today abortion is legal in all nine months. you know, today i am a 27 year-old and was reading about sarah whittington and her fight to get roe v. wade up to the supreme court. but it was very interesting. and all of us are sitting in this room today, if we were born after january 22nd 1973, all of us are survivors of those two decisions. each and every one of us could have been aborted for $350. when our mothers were pregnant with us, the alarm on zebra or nothing but a blob of tissue, that we did not matter. today said the planned parenthood, the nation's largest

abortion provider in the country tell us the same exact thing. but the and liable fact is that this generation is a pro-5 generation. every poll that has been taken in recent years show that this is a first youth generation says the handing down of roe v. wade and doe v. bolton that actually pulls pro-life. this is counterintuitive to what many of us are told of what many adults think. they think, oh, the mullen neals, the use generation, there will always be liberal in every single issue. it won't grow up and get a job and been a first paycheck and have kids. that is not actually the case with abortion. there was a poll done last year by the gallup organization that should that -- showed that this generation is more pro-life and our parents' generation. i was reading a study not too long ago by two professors at georgetown university that was

really interesting. pro-abortion, so in favor of legalized abortion, and there were talking about this mysterious case of a disappearing pro-choice generation because they showed that the attitudes of this generation towd abortion in the attitudes of the generation coming up behind us, those in high school and middle school are the most pro-life you'd generations ever. and it will trend throughout their whole life pro-life and don't know where they will find the pro-choice side of the equation. you see, when she was here in washington, the supreme court legalized abortion, they got it wrong. you know, they paid abortion as a woman's rights issue. in attempting to fix what they saw as inequality in the workplace and in a society, what they ended up doing was setting up the active ultimate act of discrimination. the ultimate act of discrimination where you can

decide to take a life of a person simply because how old they are and where they live. it pitted the rights of the mother purses' the rights of her child. so why is this generation pro-life? out of we read this book about pro-life generations and how we will abolish abortion? well, some of us -- not many people in the room. i'm feeling kind of old as the 27 year-old, sauce were born during a big year brands of the 80's, the grunge rock bands of the 90's. but we have seen abortion develop differently there are lives. we have all seen the older sons are brothers and sisters. ultrasounds have always been available for us. there's never been any, oh, it is just a block of tissue, right? we'll hold on to googol a onetime and typed in the word abortion. many of us have seen the bloody pictures of those who have been killed for abortion.

and we have all known someone who has had the abortion. almost one in two women will have one abortion in a lifetime. we all know someone who said abortion and although it is not made her life in a better. this is how we come to this pro-life generation. now, does anybody -- was anyone at the march for life this year in washington with 650,000 other people? did you lossy overall majority of those who were here at the march for life were used? under 25. if you look at the media coverage from the day, the new york times, fox news, cnn, even ms nbc had young people holding i am the pro-life generation signs. i cannot help but wonder when we were marching up constitution and right before a search is no what nancy michelle easton, what cecile richards, what was

planned parenthood thinking as they saw this entire generation march up constitution avenue? what they were seeing w the support forheir cause slip away. and actually, there are already seeing it. nancy michelle easton was a former president of pro-choice america. this was the organization that pushed for legalization of abortion starting in l.a. 60's. she resigned last may and when she resigned she cited that there was a lack of pro-abortion and nader's and then she had to step aside to allow a young person to fill the shoes and start getting training. there was a polish she cited in her resignation about the lack of intensity, the intensity gap between pro-life young people and pro-abortion and people. there was an interesting press release put out by planned parenthood read before the march for life this january.

they put the video and a press report. they're scraping the words out of the vocabulary. instead the ti for the rd dec two eks ago a politico article talked about the new president and hal nancy michelle easton successor has said that after 41 years of using the word choice they now have to go back and redefine it because the terms changed. change to? after 41 years now is changing? this is evidence to we're talking about, folks. they know through the market research in the polls that abortion is a toxic term for them. that is why when the of the high schools and those schools, they never talk about the word abortion. it is a toxic work for them.

so where do we start? what do we tell this generation of young people to do? start telling our stories. start telling your stories. because abortion has affected each and everyone of us. men and women who you don't know who you may know who are hurting for abortion. we need to step out of the word of -- world of pedicles and duster questions to real-life situations. a lot of the riding in airports. i was in the airport trying to think, how can we show people, how can we show people what this

generation thinks about abortion? you know, i can show polls all that long. i can show you how many groups we have on college campuses. i can show you the number of pro-life groups verses the number of pro-abortion groups. i can show you that stuff. it's kinda boring because its members. how do we show people that this is a generation that can and legal abortion. we do it through stories. so, we started interviewing the students in the book. and picked up to all students. we were interviewing them. each has come from a different walk of life. each of them has a different way they have come to the way they feel about abortion. it was interesting. of all students, this one term that kept coming to our mind was the word courageous. these are the -- and never wanted to write a sad buck. it is pretty interesting because some of these books will pull you down and then left to back up with some of these stories,

but it is interesting because these are real-life stories. wow was writing the book was thinking, we put it together. i was ironing it. i don't know how our donors will feel about this book because, guess what, most of the people in the book had sex before their married. all the people in the book percenters. and these are real life, messy situations. i think sometimes, you know, when i talk to older folks they get very upset when we talk about, this is what this generation is going through or 80 percent of our peers are having sex before marriage. of course we're going to have unplanned pregnancies. of course winner to will have an aristide. so, we start off. the first chapter is about rebecca. rebecca i met a few years ago. she was speaking for the first time ever at alleges that a rally in the state of west virginia. and i was just enthralled by her story. i wanted to know more.

she was raped. she went off to college in missouri and was raped repeatedly by someone she viewed as a friend. most people don't realize that the majority of rapes are performed or committed by people who you think your friends. as it should not really understand what was happening, and it was really interesting. she never had sex before. this was her first sexual experience. she was raped. she became pregnant a few months after this. she realized. she said have to do something. she was a christian, as she knew of abortion was wrong. people always told her, abortion was wrong. she thought abortion is my only way of this. my parents are going to kill me. going to have to drop other school. and going to have to become a single mom. so she talked with the rapist, and he was giving her money for the abortion.

he punster in the stomach a few times when he was disappointed that that didn't work. and she was on her way. a dorm mate came up to her and said, another is something wrong. can you tell me what is happening. she sat down and listened to rebecca, her concern that said, you know, you don't actually have to have the abortion. do you know that? and at that moment rebecca decided not to have the abortion , to continue carrying her child. it was really interesting because her story is the first of 12, and every story in the book where a woman was considering abortion pill, the turning point was when one person told bush did not have to have an abortion. so rebecca chose life. to begin a single mom. she did have to drop out of college. she never looked back.

another book we talked about, survivor. we're survivors of abortion. some people that came closer to being aborted than a new. sometimes we will hear from france is said to my mom almost aborted my friend. she was on the table or she may debarment. melissa is really interesting. she is in the book. she had about as terrible a child as you can imagine growing up with a father who was physically and emotionally abusive. many times we hear folks say, well, we should have abortion because it's better to be dead than to be abused. she had a terrible, terrible childhood. she routinely her father said she should of been aborted a record three others, three other siblings because she was a girl like them. as she watched at the very young age her father puncher mother and beat her to the point of miscarriage for other sibling.

she remembers bng trapped in her hall closet for hours at the time. heard that locker and. but she also remembers when she went to high school and she went to a catholic as cool. so one day there was a speaker that talked about abortion. and she always heard about abortion because a dad said that she was she would have been aborted, but she did not know what it meant. at that point she started a process life group despite her dad's physical threats and abuse together to stop. she went to the college and actually had a priest kicker out of her group because she was to activism oriented. that is another story in the next book. and today she works at the nation's to fight another yacht was saying this, the most watched cable news network and the country and wants to give it all up and work for us because she was to go and help other young people who face the same

things we did. but melissa talks about, of the fundamental driving forces behind her getting involved in speaking about our story in high school and college was because she could see how the violence of abortion only spread more violence. another story in the book, we do have some men. we love men in the pro-life movement. [laughter] even though i have an office full of women, we have one man. and the next are we have the steve. steve grew up in a very secular home. it went to this rock concert and college and it kind of trick him into going to a christian concert. he became a christian. he said, oh, yeah. abortion is wrong. i'm a christian. pro-life group came to campus and said, can we host a graphic image on campus. steve said, sure. why not. i'm a christian now.

well, he let this group, showed images of aborted children, genocide victims. then he was -- he was legally call the student body president at his university for allowing pro-life displayed. it's a pretty interesting thing. the years to the death threats he receives on campus. he had to recall elections because he won the first one. then they call to do another recall election. he also talks about the legal help from the lines of defending freedom andamanese are working dress. today he leads his unpolite ministry in california helping fund-raisers for pregnancy resource centers to help women facing unplanned crisis pregnancies. there is another story in the book, julia. julia, she is a -- she is not like me. she is an insensitive and quiet. i am as boisterous. julia went to high school.

she talks about in the but caution love this one teacher. one day in class the teacher was talking about feminism and how abortion was a great thing. enjoy it to set, what? she says delilahs new abortion was wrong and i cannot believe my favorite teacher was telling me it was right. she get involved in the pro-life movement in at school, started our students for life group at a college in arkansas and actually came to internment as one summer she talks about how she goes out and stands in front of the abortion facility every day. she has created her own brochures, but to personal cellphone number in the brochure and talks to women going into the center. it is pretty cool. we have some amazing pictures at our office of julien holding babies the she has personally saved in front of an abortion facility. now, she is not 85 yen, down of many of your coming to this with preconceptions about the pro-life movement. she is not a crusty old white man who the shutting of women.

see is a very small, soft-spoken , beautiful young girl who is there praying and offering help and offering a way out. she drives the girls from the wars of facility to the crisis pregnancy center, meets with them whenever she can. but very interesting because the abortion this town of all she was doing. taken of the brochures from negroes sand that had taken her brochure and wanted and started sending her death threats to our house. the abortionist actually and drug death threats to julia through the work she was doing is in talks about despite some very scary situations, abortion facilities, in case you ever tried to go search for them, they're not located in the best parts of town. as the talks was a scary situations she is said to face being a aluminum front of an abortion facility in the middle of the city, but she says, you know, she never stopped trusting what god had planned for life. she knows that this is the work

she has been told to do and will continue doing it. another story in the book about megan who actually contacted us right after we started. and so we had i get started kate. and she was trying for the second time to start pro-life group with her very liberal california campus. and so i went to california. we met ended training with megan and gave all of the materials with she needed. the first day on campus she had a tabling display. we give students literature, and sheets and saying : up certain people who are pro-life to join your group on campus and make a difference. just a walk to megan and said, i wish you had been his last semester. i just had my second abortion. did not want to. started talking with just about the information she did not want to do it.

siesta parents to our friend from our boyfriends. she finally went to someone in her church. they said to go ahead and have the abortion. so she did. so she became instant friends with jessica despite making growing up from zero white upper-middle-class roman catholic family, jessica was from oakland, african-american, a low-income family. she was -- i think jessica was the first in their family tech graduate from college. normally they would not be in the same sorority together, not be sitting together in the cafeteria, especially in large state school like this. so they became friends and made started bringing just get to meetings, tagalong with jessica to events. and megan was there when this is texas air a few months later and said that she was pregnant for a third time and that she did not want to do it, but she knew abortion was the only way she was going to be able to continue

her education. some dagen drove over to arouse, with her all night convincing, you can be a mom and a student. you don't have to drop out of school. we will help you through this. we will be with you every step of the way. are in a pregnancy and after. and megan was there as a birth coach and bob mom , mom. it is a really interesting story because so often in the pro-life movement, you know, if anyone has ever worked at a pregnancy resource center, when you're working with people who when they come to the pregnancy research center have broken relationships in the life. there is something that has led them to that point in the life-and-death come to strangers for help. and what is really interesting about jessica, and we're talking about seeking real social justice, seeking social justice, what that means, made means repairing broken relationships. means finding out what someone actually, what to the need?

endo we found in this book and these people a we interviewed, these and people, as an absolutely amazing because what we're finding is it is often just one person. is often just one person saying, you don't have to have the abortion. is often one person saying, i'm here and a walking through this. but says it is fascinating. today just is now a college graduate, a full-time job. she is out of the cycle. she is out of the cycle of poverty because it did not have to drop out of school. yet someone in alberta. cities are a couple of the stories we have in the book. i just think that this is so important. ride augean people i say, tell your story. i can be on campus all day long debating people, which i love to do. i can be debating abortion. in talk about the philosophy. i can talk about human-rights, but what always will happen is it will come out to someone saying, well, that's not true. that's not true. that's not true.

even a couple of embryology textbooks and say, right here, we know it begins at conception. you just admitted it. you would not believe -- believe in abortion if it's a life. all day long people like you and me. i don't know why. amylase right. [laughter] when is fascinating we tell the story, they have to listen. have to consider what you're saying. a lot of us who are opposed 1973 children got we were run up in something called moral relativism. there is no actual right or wrong. equally valuable. we hear this stuff all the time. is no wonder why people ought don't understand that there is absolute right an absolute wrong in this country. and abortion is always an absolute wrong. it's never just. it's never a human rights issue. such today am asking you to pick up the buck. you can get a free chapter

online at courageous. you can read rebecca story for free. read the story. start learning the stories. start talking about abortion. don't be afraid to talk about it. you can be a courageous abortion abolitionist. you will be as crazy as i am, what you can still do that just by simply talking about the issue. i am unapologetically anti-abortion. i am against abortion. as a human rights violation. we know this generation is pro-life. we know that. amino americans today, more than ever before denounce abortion. don't be afraid to talk about it. don't be afraid to listen to people stories. questions? [applause] >> if you would -- its excellent good stories. stories. you're so right about that.

if you would raise your hand or give your name and affiliation. we have -- up, we have emily rice. internet please. we have emily jones to mention that loose from georgia tech. holding the microphone. i will let you call on people. >> that's fine. >> questions. >> i was a great speech. so, looking at the average generation against abortion, the seed growing in minorities and other demographics? a lot of times -- i see it as a lot of young white women, but i am wondering if it is getting out african-americans, hispanic, asian. >> these polls are across the board, across racial lines. it is really fascinating especially in the african-american community, abortion disproportionately place the african-american community. they make up about 13 percent of the u.s. population, yet 36 percent of all abortions are performed an african-american women. the majority of abortions

facilities are located in urban, african-american or hispanic neighborhoods are next to a college campus. so we know this is where the target. you're right. what is interesting in terms of, and it is harder for us as a process slight movement in african-american and hispanic woman to come and speak out about abortion. you know, we know abortion is a bad thing because no one talks about abortion. no one talks about abortion. no one says, oh, well, i will be right there this afternoon. as a step to stop by and by abortion first. i had an abortion teacher campaign that flopped. a huge disaster because no one talks about abortion because everybody understands it is a tragic thing and it is a bad thing. but even more so, i think the african-american community. if you pull african-americans alone without any other race, they will pull pro-life. they are pro-life. but it is less -- less talk about the african communities and the white community.

any other questions? this will be a hard one. >> dunlop. heritage. tell us a little bit about your own journey into this pro-life missionary work you do? >> sure. that was new zealand. thank you. no, i am a dork. i was -- plan was to become an aeronautical engineer. i had just returned back from space camp. i won a scholarship to space camporee guess, you can do that. i need a summer project. woman in my church set i work at this women's center. would you like to come and in turn? was 15th. i said, sure. i was kind of pro-life. i mean i was like a mile, it's kind of where the majority of america, you know, we ask you, pro-life, but i don't know if i should tell the people ought to have an abortion pill resized or working at this pregnancy resource center and it was amazing because the women's words to of the women were so excited. was the average age of their clients coming in.

some kind of violence shoved into a room for two weeks and learn everything they can about abortion, as tds. i learned the birds and bees very quickly. my mom and i still have never had that talk. it's amazing. and so that is really what the passion for the pro-life movement, coming in and watching these women. all of times a night stalker was seeking social justice, a woman coming in the same time every month. and so that is where i got started. i started a pro-life group of my high-school. super controversial, always dressed up because the bottom was the only person in the world who ever tried to start a pro-life group baena high-school i wasn't. the work of me interested in politics. bill o'reilly -- i'm dating myself. the bill o'reilly show was just being started on fox news i star watching about politics. among steel the college. i'm going to be a lawyer. i want to overturn roe v. wade. i went to college as a pauly

sign major. as a freshman i started a process like groupon campus which was not without controversy again. and that is how i got involved. actually i was asked to in front -- intern for president bush's reelection campaign and was offered a job, but it was that initial step of going into a pregnancy resource center, a volunteer in my time, and about the issues, counseling women and men and also wanted to add in that activism component in the education component because what most people don't understand is this is the target age range. high-school and college is in someone's being targeted for abortion. there's a reason by 79 percent of planned parenthood's 5 miles mccall campus. this is where they're targeting. side of that was so important. and that is so i really got started. >> well, what about overturning roe v. wade? >> i think in the movement we

talk a lot about this. there are different strategies to overturning roe v. wade. and i think people will disagree i was ona panel with cpa see you strongly disagree with my ideas. i'd think first it has to change our hearts. we have to force politicians to want to stand up for our issue. that is really what we need to be focusing on. you know, politicians, people here in washington are going to start listening when they know that their constituents are against abortion, and that is really what i talk about when i say being courageous and speaking up, it is extremely, extremely important. a lobby on a couple of months ago, and it was fascinating because we had purple t-shirts, the same couple -- color as sci you. we went into all of these blue dog democrats and they all thought we were a pro abortion and could not believe that we were pro-life. they said they had never seen pro-life young people lobby before. but it was great because began its offices that normally don't

allow us. i believe it starts to change your hearts. something we're trying to focus on right now is that this is a pro-life generation. understand that abortion is bad, don't like abortion and other truth. but when we asked if roe v. wade should be overturned, we lose that issue. the reasoning is that issue is what i believe is they cannot envision a world without abortion. people get freaked out when you say, we want to get rid of abortion. going back to 1950's. absolutely not. you can survive. america can survive without legal abortion, but we have to first and visiting it. you have to start talking about it. i talked frequently about one -- what we do after abortion is overturned, after it is made illegal. they're differing ways. the supreme court case is just the first that because then you have to see simultaneous state battles. i am very much in favor of overturning roe v. wade and doe v. bolton because it is bad

constitutional law to begin with. taking these decisions back to states. we will kick their butts and states. but there are different ways. there's a human life beginning at conception bill. the question is, does that have any political way or is that just merely a statement. the incremental legislation. what has been a really fascinating is that despite president obama administration, despite, you know, having a merciless assault against the pro-life movement since 2008, we are actually winning in the states. repast the most a pro-life legislation ever since president obama has been elected president. so, i mean, there are certain states where there are no abortion facilities now. there is one -- in mississippi there is one, and that second is to be shut down immediately. so abortion is a supply and demand issue. we can take with the demand. that is so we do. we want to take away the demand, but you can also take away the

supply. it's pure economics. any other questions? >> a couple of more here. >> on the radio this morning i heard about cases going on right now in philadelphia. the media. they perform these late term abortions. killed the children after their born. >> and that is a practice that our present actually agrees with. president obama four * ordered against a bill that would ban. what happens in the delivery process that has not gone on the cover. one time they told me this is other with a my child. you deliver the baby early, normally the baidu need to be taken to an acute, have camino, nickel care. what they do is kill the baby moments after it is born. president obama actually says on record, you can get the audio on-line, just because it is ticking and moving does not mean

it is alive. hello? yes. but that is something that the main stream media is not paying attention to, this is what we should be highligein you have pe might not know how i feel about abortion, this is a case you need to talk about because it is perfectly legal in philadelphia. he's getting in trouble because is talking about late term abortions, but you should see the pictures that they have on how dirty this abortion facility was. because in most it's across the country hair salons are more regulated than abortion facilities. there is no state inspection. this surgery going in, going on every single day, but they don't feel like it wants to inspect it. that's what's happening in the state of maryland right now. the case is awful. mecham he was bragging about a mile, this baby is so big you could walk to the bus stop and then killed it. he had baby's feet in jars in solution that he was keeping in his office.

dead babies in his freezer. this is not made up stuff. this is an actual court is happening today. our thanks for bringing that up. >> one are two more. >> okay. >> kristan, one of the arguments that you often hear is that when abortion is once again made illegal then what you will do is you will drive these innocent woman, girls, women the back alleys where they're will be butchered. what is your team response to that? a lot of people who actually would agree with you would say, well, gosh, i don't want to drive women to do that. >> sure. there are a couple of days to that everyone, the doctor who founded in the late 1960's, the national is a season for the repeal of abortion laws was the original name. an abortionist, and he admitted as a second book, he passed away

two years ago, he completely made up the number of women who were dying from illegal abortion. he made a number 10,000, and is still a number that planned parenthood uses today, and he may get that number. as interesting, there is an article, i think it is 61 are 60 by planned parenthood vice president who actually came out and said that the number of illegal abortion death was severely reduced because of penicillin in the 1950's and 1940's. and so it is down. she had said -- offer better name, but she had said the number of illegal abortion does was about 500 per year. so a couple -- that is just like getting facts straight. okay. let's get our number straight first. rodney but not 10,000 of 500. yet the thing we need to understand is, when abortion is made illegal, people who are doing abortions now, abortion was made legal in 1970, 1973, what happens? there was not like overnight abortion training schools.

the people who were doing abortions just advertised that id abortions. there were doctors doing abortions. they did not -- there were doctors at a practice that just did not tell people. so this is something that we need to be talking about. what happened. well, what would happen is the abortionist who are doing abortions now we just go under their radar. planned parenthood, they actually had talks about this. they have plans for what they will do an abortion is made illegal and have it will go on their radar. this is why they're pushing medical abortion, i.e., the pill, the are you for six because they need -- they know they have a public relations nightmare with the word abortion the need to get rid of this ugly abortion facility. so what they're what to do is everyone have their abortions, go to cbs and a compelling you can abort her baby in the privacy of your home. so, those are a couple of things to talk about when people saying, you know, abortion. the other thing to keep in mind is, you know what, and i have used this before in debates.

we have talked. bank robbers killed a lot of people every year. they do. the week the allies spent robbery? no. with only less bank robbery. that is something else you want to talk about. you have to get your facts straight first. your numbers to you're actually talking about. you would do the illegal abortions director was still be performed by doctors. just because something, you cannot legalize something is because you are afraid we're killing millions of children every year. that's yet to think about. >> about the -- how many chapters deal and on campuses? >> 705. >> high-school and college. >> many college campuses. last week we lost our eyes : host : initiative. two years ago we lost to about one star medicare initiative. forty groups. something that the pro-life movement for a long time has not really focused on because, you know, every medical school as

the pro-choice group on them because they're trying to train the future. there are a lot of articles. you go will the disappearance of abortionists. they're doing in the 60's. you don't go to medical school and get $300,000 dad to go kill babies. is not really high on the aspiration. and so they cannot find enough people to do abortions. so we're focusing on medical tools now. >> you mentioned you have -- >> yes. you can click college has cool medical school law school and we have different activism guides and step-by-step event guides for all the different type of answer one under campus, free activism kits. we have free postcards destines can put out on campus and start discussion because most often when you are on campus you can get the discussion started. the fundamental truth is on our side. so we need to get talked about. almost as on our website and completely free free and people.

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