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i would say 90% of those are in spanish, so i am lucky they are. this is an extraordinary life and a life lived in the lurches sent. a canvas that is huge, stretches through most of south america. a life lived large in other ways as well. simon bolivar was featured on it and commanding personality. he was called iron asked by his soldiers because he wrote 75,000 miles to liberate the six countries that he liberated. it's really an extraordinary physical feat if nothing else. but he also was a man of the enlightenment, someone who had been inspired at the youngest age by rating full tear and not just your and john locke and

came out of that experience probably at about 20, 21, with a passionate fans of his country, the colonial yoke that a separate matter. at least he thought that suffered under. he was all for liberty and freedom, great admired united states. great admired in many respects napoleon, although there are aspects of the empire, the napoleonic empire that he did not admire. but this is a man also of flesh and blood. he was a great womanizer. he had 35 mr. says, 37 mistresses that we can count. after his wife who was greatly beloved to have died, he was 19

euros when she died and went on to pledge he would never marry again, but that didn't mean he wasn't going to have a good time and he did. he was a great dancer, but to, loved music, said he did its best again on the dance floor, whereas others needed to be away from the hubbub of life in order to get things thought through. he felt that a ballroom with lots of pretty women at poll closing dance it was perfectly to think through the gordian knots he encountered. he would go back in the dance hall, happy and elated that in the middle of that, go back to a back room in it to three letters at a time to three different

secretaries and then go back to the bottom again thinks the more on his feet, literally. i also ask why did you choose to write about simon bolivar? in my whole career, as a writer, my whole career i would say has been to try to explain what america -- latin american to north americans into english speakers. it's not an easy task because there are great, great differences in great divide of personality between north americans and south americans. every single book i've read has been another trick in the edifice of trying to explain who we are and how different we may

think from north americans. of course, you may save the bicultural person and i see many faces whom i know they are who are bicultural. you also know you are taking with two heads in a 200 when you're living between cultures. i wanted to get a sense of that other side, the latin american site, which is so different in its history is so different to north american english readers. brad is right that i had always been captivated as a child by the battle of ayacucho. it's not a very well behaved child and i was very often drag by my collar decision-maker and parents living room, which was dark and airless and sort of filth birthright in boston porcelains in things like that

in a musty books. i was made to sit there and not dirk chandler to contemplate my badness. and i remember it has been on the hard store, although my auntie godmother who is now 83, bless her heart tells me it's a big soft fleshy cushion chair. i'm not sure about memory they are, but it felt like a herd share. i was made to look at the portraits that surrounded me. one portion it to my right -- note to my left was not great, great grandfather was a spanish brigadier general. he was the first thing in to charge and was the first spaniard to fall.

he was killed with a sword to his heart right away at the very beginning of the battle. he was on the left. on the right was a portrait of a long, wistful, beautiful young woman who was the daughter, but she'd never met him. she was born a few weeks after a sword pierced his heart. across from me was the rebel general that eventually married at the age of 16 in the rebel general charge down that hill and the battle of ayacucho and with bolivar services, managed to sleep through an animated, by the way, with the peruvian

freedom and all of spanish rule in latin america. i was felt even now a sitting sitting there, being punished for being bad, you know, rebellion was really great. throw for the old guys. throw over the yoke. i've been fascinated with bolivar ever since. bolivar is a powering day care and i wanted to give you a sense of that they sort of reading some of what i've written about who he is. by the time, exactly 200 years ago in 18 games, by the time he began his admiral campaign in which he was not known at all, he was beginning to be known in south america. but at the end of 1813, he was

known really around the world. and washington, john quincy adams and james monroe agonized whether their nation, not principles of liberty and freedom should support the struggle for independence. in london, hard-bitten veterans of england's war against napoleon, mostly irish side not to fight for bolivar costs. lord byron made his boat and dream goes into with his daughter. but there would be five more years of bloodshed before his famous thrust from latin american shores. i'm sorry, 14 more years. i'm just reading the middle of it, so the fighters is wrong. there were 14 years of war have a great bloodshed before spain was thrust from latin american shores. at the end of the savage war, one man would be credited for

single-handedly conceding, organizing and leading liberation of six nation subpopulation 1.5 times the size of north america, a landmass and the odds against what she thought of fermentable establish rural power, that wilderness, the splintered loyalties of many races would have proved daunting for the a-list of general santos command. had no formal military, but that'll more than boil and genius for leadership, he freed much of spanish america and laid out his dream for a unified continent. despite all of this, he was a high elite perfect man. he could be impulsive, headstrong, filled with contradictions. he spoke eloquently about justice, but he was and always meted out in the chaos of

resolution. his romantic life hadaway spilling into the public realm. had trouble accepting criticism and had no patience for disagreements. he was single-handedly -- he was singularly incapable of losing a game of cards. it's hardly surprising that over the years latin americans have learned to accept human imperfection simulators. bolivar taught them how. as bolivar grew, he was called the george washington of south america. both of them came from wealthy and influential families. archer and defenders of freedom, heroic in war but apprehensive about marshaling the peace in both resisted efforts to make them kings.

both claim to want to return to private life, but their pride into -- the public sphere of shaping government and both are accused as we all know that undue ambition. they are really similarities between george bush and 10 and simon bolivar added. the action lasted twice as long as washington. the territory covered with seven times as large and spend an astonishing geographic diversity for crocodile infested jungles to the snowcapped mountains of the andes. moreover, unlike washington's four, bolivar could not have been one without the aid of like an indian troops. his success in rallying all the races to the patriot cause became the turning point in a war for independence. it's fair to say he thought both the revolution and the civil

war. perhaps what really distinguishes both men, both simon bolivar and george washington can be seen most of all in there but mark. washington for his firm has shared, i guess to dignified, the product of a cautious and deliberate mind, bolivar speeches and correspondents remain at thomas jefferson. they were fiery and passionate and elegant. they represent some of the greatest right and not america. although much was produced in haste on the battlefields and on the run, that produces that once lyrical and stately, clever but historically grounded, electric to get deeply wise. it is no exaggeration to say that bolivar resolution change the spanish-language come before

his words marked the don of a new literary age. 'll thessaly postilion and cumbersome effusions in his remarkable voice and pen became another language entirely. urgent, vibrant and jan. so you see, this was a man who represented for me if i wanted to go this edifice of explanation of who latin american are, bolivar was really it because he represented the history they really defined the continent of south america. the revolution he thought was so different, in such contrast to the revolution that was fought here. he had to have ploy. what he started out as awake a white pants were essentially because he was a very rich man.

he came from the richest family in venezuela and one of the richest families in all flat america was a very, very wealthy man. his parents had -- his family had had in venezuela are at that .200 years or more and they had accumulated wealth of cocoa plantations, that on 12 properties in caracas alone. it is a tremendously rich family and they began as an aristocratic discontent with the colonial power that the spanish often south america. people don't really realize this, but spain was very, very assertive in making sure that

its colonies had no contact with each other. they're like spokes of the wheel. you could not travel from one area of bicycle that america to another. you could not do, is. you are presented a colony of spain from doing any manufacturing at all. you were prevented from owning in mind. he represented for many time of commerce whatsoever. it was punishable by execution. so you see the whole business, you can imagine, putting together a revolution in a place that is so isolated by its colonial power was a very difficult thing. this is what bolivar came up

against. it wasn't automatic that countries would welcome to liberate them, even though they wanted to deliberate. it wasn't automatic the races would all play a part. in fact, the races kept shifting. in the beginning, the black sun homed so much of the revolution depended for aligning themselves because they knew what that meant. they didn't know what the revolution would ring. feeling that they are to be the evil existed in the colonial system, they could do with that. but they didn't know what was coming with the white aristocrats of latin america. so there are very hesitant. it wasn't until simon bolivar had been exiled for the second time because the resolution kept

failing the republic. each are public that was set up first who himself is a tremendously marvelous romantic story fell apart. the second republic fell apart and he found himself in haiti, welcomed by alexander payton. what happened in haiti was they had a very bloody revolution and wish all the way for either sent sent running or killed, slaughtered en masse. alexander said to bolivar, you'll never win this game. you're going back now for the third republic. i will help you. i'll give you ships.

i will give you this commercial establishments of men who can help you, but she must promise one thing and that is your next timeout, and this was already 1815. your next timeout, the moment you hit the shore in venezuela from haiti come you must liberate the slaves. you must end slavery. bolivar had thought about this for a long time because with a greater moral instinct in the american founders, jefferson or washington, he couldn't imagine you could fight for liberty and fight for freedom of slaves. he immediately understood and in fact have very figured that out. he knew that he was going to have to reach out and get the

indigenous and at that point, 300 years into the colonial history there was a church mulatto embassies so population along with the blacks and indians, great slave trade and he knew he was going to have to engage those many races in order to win the revolution and to really get it going. it wasn't easy. you can imagine. there were lots of suspicions. they're a lot about the time every chance i wanted his own country really. this ethos are very to fight, that there was the point at which it is a very daring point i will call you about in a

minute of which the whole tide of history changed. and that was he engaged, and manage to engage on and off of them a lot that in caracas hurry but worse than, who were able to at least get him eat him pates to encourage to think differently about how the revolution should be thought. he had the very daring in the middle of 1819 were already much blood had been spilled in the revolution grown so bloody that half the population of venezuela had been killed in the process. some towns had been completely wiped off the map.

he had the thought, maybe i will cease to worry about the messiah and hit the spaniards in the heart by crossing the and these going to nuke granada, which is now columbia. it was a ridiculous thought. it was rainy season. they were on the planes. he wasn't looking at the indies. the planes are parched in the summertime and absolutely flooded in the rainy season. poll workers become cease. the planes become lakes, great lakes and no one would ever suspect that anyone would be so foolish to take an army with a cattle in the women in the soldiers through this flooded

plain and over the snowcapped mountains of amd's, which everybody knows you are taking an army of her peaks that are 18,000 feet high. it was a revolutionary if i may make a pond and nobody would suspect he would attempt it. why would you vote to another country when you have that one liberation for iraq? he kept it a secret. the soldiers did not know whether it going. they just sit there waiting waiting for the water, sometimes having to carry women on their back. the paddle works by. one after the other and got to the bottom of the range that divide the venezuela part from

the new granada in part and finally explained what he wanted to do. the soldiers were for it. he check the army of 2500 people with women, some of the officers had their wives and horses in but not in a karat is printing press everywhere he went. he felt worse where the greatest but then any pulled it off. he went through the highest point by the spanish had no care assistance for miles. he went over that and came down the other side. a third of the british expeditionary force died in the process. all of the cattle work on.

many of the horses did not make it, but the number of people who came down the other side of the mountain were terrified of the spaniards and they weren't not to actually send the viceroy running. he ran, put on a grimy hat. he put on a pond show and left a million pesos on his desk and ran for cover. very dead naming, you can imagine detonating on the ammunition that he would get at it in the road into the capital of by himself. and there are wonderful descriptions of that ride, which is the way i started the book. it's a marvelous story follows the adventures, full of romance.

i could talk about home matches non, that not enough has written. she was a great beauty, fears. she said whatever she wanted to say. she was very direct. she had opinions. she spoke up, dressed like a man. she was blake not name bolivar's generals had never seen. some adored her, send us eyster, that she was three times in his life the person who saved him from assassination. the stories are dramatic they are absolutely. hard to believe that something like this could have been.

completely cinematic story of bolivar thickened the palace and he sends a messenger to bring her because he's so sick of everybody around him as sick as well. it's the most unguarded moment bolivar had experienced in his whole career. she says no i'm too sick has no feeling terrible. i need your help. she puts on her galoshes and goes to the palace and he's sitting in the tub, trying to pull his fever because he is so ill. she comes in and she raced ahead and eventually he gets up, goes to bed, falls into great torpid sleep. she does as well.

suddenly she awakes with the barking of dogs and it is a whole organized assassination of 150 people who have converged on the palace. at this point, he is quite famous, quite powerful. some of the generals and certainly his vice presidents are very suspicious of his power. he says what do we do? she said he does another pair of boots. his visit cut out for cleaning. he's got a sword, he's got a pistol. he says i'll go open the door because someone is banging at the door at that point. she said no, get dressed. he gets stressed. she says, galoshes and john through the window. it's on his mistresses galoshes,

jumps to the window. he just said to a friend a couple days before, that would be a great getaway. as it happens, there are no cars outside, so he was able to jump. slugs it out and comment there she is. the general on the other side, several soldiers on the other side describe her as this beautiful apparition with a sword in her hand in hand on the hip saying what do you want? of course the story goes on from there. i'll let you read it for yourself. it's quite amazing at every level. say you can see my excitement is somewhat thinking, how do you explain the lack american personality, black american character to a north american reader? you excited by showing how different the system was, how

much history and in this case the six republics that emerged after the revolution in the describe it as a sort of insane kind of palace life that bolivar lived and how it changed from country to country from venezuela to new granada to adequate our, liberating panama on the way down to peru, which was the hardest at all, the hardest nut to crack. i hope you'll enjoy reading it. i want to hear your questions. i hope that many questions for me because this is always for me my favorite part. clap back >> yes. >> th speech. thank you very . >> that was a great speech.

thank you very much. i cannot hereto buy the book number one because i read every six fabulous reviews of it. i didn't realize you had an in-house reviewer, john over there. i read him every weekend, but this is superb and i can't wait to look at the boat. i also lived half my life in south america, knew about about bolivar. included wonderful stuff in colombia. we hear a lot hear a lot and it irritates me as someone who loves this hemisphere to hear about the late departed president of venezuela who uses simon bolivar sa tool to cover in a wonderful people country. to what extent such bolivar i don't want time in venezuela, to what extent was shot as

distorting history and doing the usual day for 14 years or is there a serious historical responsible basis for using bolivar as part of the package? >> thank you for the question. it's a very good question. there is very little. i speak about this in the epilogue of the book. there is very little to compare with hugo chavez except for the thing that everybody send bolivar died destitute, penniless, given up all his riches. hugo chavez by the way died a very rich man, opposite experiences there. but bolivar was -- let me put it in the most concrete ways.

bolivar knew that he was a liberal. he made that he was a man of the enlightenment and he was cast by his enemies as being anti-liberal. it's a mistake. he was one of the most liberal enlightened leaders in the western hemisphere. but through the years, after he died, completely rejected by his own homeland and on the way to exile, it didn't take 10, 15 years before he was brought back as a great hero. his greatest general, his closest general, danielle from one co o'leary, hold bolivar love said of him, there is something about bolivar. it's the magic of his prestige.

well, there were at least two presidents before hugo chavez who did exactly what hugo chavez said. take bolivar legacy and use it as their own. it's amazing to see people on the right use them, people on the left use them for hugo chavez who i think bolivar would've been horrified to see how his name has been years in the republic of venezuela. it's been used many times before. he's constantly being brought up by leaders throughout that america to argue different points, which is why people are very, very can just about just who bolivar was and what he believed in. the hugo shop as and simon

bolivar do have an common is this. drank of having all that in america. he wanted a unified america because he felt would be stronger, more influential, eighth-grader, shall we say, counterpoint to the united states, which was growing very strong. hugo chavez to have a dream. the bullet theory in nations now are ecuador and bolivia and cuba at all call themselves the goal of aryan nations that have little to do with actual polluter is some. >> hi, two-part question is a bicultural person. one, could you enumerate several

other what you consider to be gross misconceptions about bolivar on the part of north americans, how we misperceived his legacy and misperceive had. secondly, any truth to the story i've heard about the locket with george washington's hair? >> yes, let me start with that first. george washington, who is the grandson -- great-nephew of washington wanted to send a medallion with equipping of george washington's hair inside because he felt george

washington himself would have wanted to be associated. he said to cost us about the people, of all the people of the world the george washington is admired, it was simon bolivar. and so, the battalion was sent down. it was for bolivar the absolute pinnacle of achievement. he admired washington. he admired jefferson. he admired the north american founders, although he made his task was very different and he could not emulate them. but he treasured this medallion for all time and it's still in venezuela. it's very much on display. if you got onto caracas, you can see it. the question about

biculturalism. the question is misconception. now, bolivar his whole life was lived with people having misconceptions about him. when he was fighting for the liberation of peru back to his homeland, there were rumors he wanted to make himself king. these were rumors put forward by his enemies, put forward by his friends and everybody and it was the way of tarnishing his name. he was the furthest thing from wanting to be came because when he met -- when bolivar met the other liberator, the one thing that really, really turned bolivar was the fact that martine believed south america should have a king and he had

actually sent people out to europe to rule in peru. he said no i'm sorry, but would sacrifice a lot of lies precisely to get rid of kings. this misconceptions there as well. they were used against them by step americans. so i'm not surprised they're misconceptions from north americans. >> like yourself i grew up here and i have to confess i don't little about simon bolivar. as the son of a wealthy family, was educated in spain? yes? >> it's a great story. >> i had to believe if he was educated abroad, he must've at some point learned something

about history and similar to animals goaded over the alps to sack rome. thank you. >> thank you. the thing that's amazing about bolivar education if he was inordinately erudite man. he could speak, you know, language is the red cicero is not. he was educated because when he went to spain as a young man, he was sent over at the age of 16. why? because his mother's family -- he was a complete orphaned by this time. mother's day, father's day and he was sent over by his family to see if he could persuade spain to actually give him, you

know, some noble position. he ended up under the tutelage of a wonderful venezuelans who lived in spain for a long time. who brought him in. it never had a son. bolivar disembark him. he taught in every income had tutors come in and ended up astonished by his own interest in history and literature and music and he was trained at everything from personal library and also simply the people who came in. he was really, as they say, a person who changed the latin american language because he hath listen to the european philosophers at the time.

he had read deeply. he appreciated good prose. he was a deeply educated man. >> i'm going to revise that as something of a filibuster so i apologize. by the bolivar refused sam martine certainly would be hugely talented military commander. it was much more successful. >> he crossed the andes, yes, had something very similar, which was key to wanted to unite america. what happened in the process was by the time he reached peru was in opium addict. he and a soldier since he was

12. had terrible arthritis arthritis over the years. he was carried over the andes, but they actually sat down and met for the first time i was trying to say, help you with peru and bolivar was not convinced he wanted to help this man, that meeting was very awkward. it's very famous. i was in the room to record it, but as years went on, and there's enough rate about it by both sides that we know pretty much what went on. but sam martine wanted bolivar to come. he said i will serve under you. he did that was exactly what he didn't want because a person who serves under you will have a greater prestige of the person ruling as though he said no, that's impossible.

bolivar writes that in the latter. sam martine wanted to serve under me. he would have the moral advantage of having surrounded himself to me. he refused really to have a few battalions. sam martine at that point left knowing an order for peru to be free, to bring us liberating army, he would have to make himself scarce, which is exactly what he did. he left lane that in the middle of the night, we get there a little while to see if you would be called back and went down to argentina and then went into exile in france. it's one of the great moments in history when you have two liberators in the same room and really fighting for authority. thank you.

>> what happened to slavery and the republics? >> immediately. although a lot of it was immediate and word and not an actual act. this very, very hard for some people to let go. imagine when the slaves -- the states have been freed and told if they joined the army they look in their freedom immediately. is so interesting to me this a few latin americans don't realize it is really the black forces in and forces that want a revolution down there. i've had a great poet say to me, how can you speak such rubbish? all the white aristocrats were leaving. it was battalion after battalion of blackfin to seize those the lab is sending dan's who won the

freedom and bolivar was very aware of that. >> was any chance of united south america? >> you know, he tried in 1826. he held what they call a precursor to the oas, daddy tried to call a conference about these republics. he caught at the pan american union. he had a holster division for this greater america. people didn't come. they stalled. people died on the way. there were too many animosities. first he didn't want to make the united states that has vice president invited the united states. it became, this revolution has plowed this the because he

couldn't move what he really wanted to move, which was the unification of all of latin america. thank you. >> i just would like you to add a footnote to your answer about the education of bolivar by including -- >> absolutely, one of his early tutors. he was tutored by a number of people in venezuela. one of the great literary figures supplied america. he happened to be not too much older than bolivar was brought in as a tutor. >> thank you for that. >> you mentioned one gentleman. but you mind talking a little bit about the person, who he was and what influence he had on

bolivar. benefactor push you a little, second question i give you an idea for your next book. is there any correspondence between her and not of much who also has impaired by. and a broader framework in which you obviously rise and operate? operation, okay. the emergence of the female in 19th century latin america as a leader or an influence on the male theaters. >> thank you. first, you know, when the napoleonic wars were trying to a close and you had a militarized europe. a lot of soldiers who came back to england and ireland and had no means of income.

it was these people who were recruited and some of them came, they -- the recruitment was very loose. it is done by someone who didn't know much about soldiering, venezuelan diplomat fatted montana was recruiting like mad. people would come and say yes i was a lieutenant colonel and in fact was just a scrub. he would come over over and they're outfitted in these majestic uniforms. they were touted all over london and given fake champagne goodbyes. off they would come to this absolutely wild revolution, where the soldiers were barefoot and friday with spears and sticks. they were ludicrous, parading

around in the c&c european big thing could really lumber along with the equipment they are carrying. he was very, very young. bolivar identified him very early and made him a general very quickly. daniel o'leary was not only one of his best generals, but one of his closest friends and he could confide in. bolivar like having -- i don't know where it came from, but he liked having english and irish assistance of generals around him. his little tight for us as a people -- his secretaries and assistants were almost in tire leaking/and irish. he had spent time in london and appreciated their experience in

europe and the napoleonic wars and the elevated them. he was certainly reported net by collecting all of his letters. if you go, 32 volumes of letters and correspondence in speeches. this florencio o'leary who collect it all, quite a gift back. anybody else? yes. >> what i shoot exiled to the toughest library? >> what i was doing? [inaudible] >> i was a pretty cheeky kid and i fancied myself coming in now, a tomboy. [speaking in spanish]

i would say things i shouldn't have. they made me the prim little women you see a. today. [laughter] >> one more question about the irish. a different aspect of a utah about. could you comment what was going on in chile and the role of the irishman taken? >> of course, bernard o'higgins was the illegitimate son of the viceroy o'higgins of chile was when i see in march closest collaborators. the story is fantastic. someone should write that in a marvelous, romantic passion. bernardo o'higgins corresponded. they didn't have too much in

common, but it bolivar videoed people like sam martine and o'higgins that part of the con man and respect it very, very much. >> the united states had a number of agents of latin america while this is going on. there was correspondence between his agent center secretary of state and president. could you comment on the extent to which the correspondent contributed to misconceptions on the part of north americans? >> absolutely. bolivar was the middle of a ref can and. he was, if i may say, suffering from hemorrhoids, and a number of things while he was doing 75,000 miles on horseback. into this moment when he is

trying to team the planes to venezuela, the tremendous stories, the huge expeditionary force, the spaniards who are fighting to keep their grip on the colony. & co.'s american agents and one of whom most famously was a reporter, who came down unassertive freelancing information back to the president and his cabinet. he was not treated very well. this is someone scribbling the revolution was not treated very well. the reports that he sent back to eischen 10 were skating, absolutely scathing.

you couldn't say any worse to an america than a man with napoleonic ambitions. so i was really through this reporting back that bolivar began to have a very negative reputation in the united states. also, remember that in the united states, slavery was the biggest commerce effect. we're talking 1815 and forward. gordon wood describes this very, very well in his empire liberty. it was our gnp. slavery was huge commerce and the worst thing washington could imagine, talking about washington is the governing city, capital could imagine was

supporting anybody who liberated slaves was using that to say. this is just not the map. the reputation began to get worse and worse in the united states because every sort out the slander that was used, including the fact a lot of people were dying in this revolution. he didn't speak well for the whole enterprise. thank you. [applause] >> i arrived in minnesota. the first lady kindly came in to me this day and she had this

fantastic house in new york that had my first night. it was a six-run thing and ran out of fluid of course. but rod was five months and shoulders to spend the night night at this extraordinary house on fifth avenue. and then she put me on a plane to minnesota. i have not even looked at a map. i have no idea. my father when he put me on the plane in london, was crying. he gave me this bottle of randy. of course i got to minnesota on six feet of snow. i knew it all the brand-new

sewer. it is a great experience because we had this wonderful little pvided by my husband said you can't do that it's freezing. is that i've never sat with the window close to my life. of course the whole thing froze up. we had a wonderful, very, very different but i was trying. people exchanging tunafish casserole. i don't like tuna fish or casserole, but i was doing my best. a friend of mine who is a psychiatrist that in california and she and i were laughing about it the other day. but older children were dressed in snowsuits. it is not easy. i thought of this already. the first night they are, they are with me to buy food and of

course in england we had no food. went through 46 i was simply terrible and there is nothing in the shop said you couldn't find anything and i got into the and i was completely overcome. i couldn't cope with all that packaged food and i've never seen a can of chicken packed up like that. [laughter] i have no idea what to buy. the woman next door who is bad for pediatricians said ikea get the carrot and the children. the man asked her as a texan who wanted to take me fishing. this is a language story. as i was leaving his house from a part of the night before he was going to take me fishing. i turned to him and say what you

knock me out in the morning. he said there's nothing i'd rather do. [laughter] i had no idea what i said. but the language really was quite funny. if you put a call through to new england come you say or? if you say to an american are you through, and means you are connected. it is a completely different language. ..