[applause] >> it is great to be here tonight i have a lot of things to talk about and one of the things i would like to start talking about is what is the mild autistic traits that becomes mild optimism? i think half of silicon valley has a little bit of optimism. [laughter] negative at one end of the spectrum like steve jobs or the guy who fixes the copier machine and that the apparent you have people

much more handicapped, and nonverbal to live in a supervised living situation. if you take robert einstein who was speech delayed until age three what about albert -- albert, jr. in today's school system? that makes me shudder. a little bit of these traits research has shown those people that are bipolar you have more creative people and family history of what to some you have more tactical. a little bit of the trait is a disadvantage but at some point* it is normal variation. one of the problems is so many people colored by this word from those to live in a supervised situation that

the diagnosis has change. but the mayor again psychiatric said -- association and the first version came out thought it was psychoanalytic problems that the parents were blamed for it then they didn't even mention not to is a matter of. they just left it out. then you had to have a speech to lay before three years then at nineties they had social communication emphasis was no speech delay that is a mild end of the spectrum. then with the american psychiatric association comes out in a few weeks with the commission failed to gaspers out make it all costs -- it alleges a make

it a social communication disorder but that does not make sense because social communication problems is part of the court criteria of what to some. it is a moving target here changing and changing. one of the things i cover in a lot of detail is sensory problems. you could have sensory sensory, dyslexia, a ph.d. but many different labels in since they vary from a nuisance to debilitating you cannot tolerate a noisy restaurant or a train station but i was a little kid the loud sounds hurt my ears of let the child initiate another cannot stand florescent lights they flicker like a strobe light.

sometimes using pastille r helps one thing i cannot stand scratchy close against white skin there's no way you will get will against my skin. and cotton does not it. but we need to be doing research and since three issues. a lot of papers show there are some circuits of the brain with facial recognition and we know about that and the monotonous studies how to separate problems by co-author as denigrate job to get material together. and one of might favor

chapters talks about the brain scan. what basically shows up shows up with the eyes -- and activities i did but whiskey naked never keep them together in my cerebellum is 20 percent smaller and my fear center the amygdala was larger than normal that would explain why i had so much anxiety terrible terrible anxiety from puberty that is now controlled with antidepressant medication. a lot of people are super anxious once again that turned me on a 2006 at the university of pittsburgh found i have a great big

huge visual tract that would explain my visual thinking then i had scribbled fluid in the cortex that trashed out multitasking. [laughter] i cannot remember long sequence of information. when i had it job at the dairy at graduate school there were 10 steps for setting up the dairy equipment. if i do not have the list would be in trouble i would have to make my own little list and then a very precise diagnosis was greenspan's with university of pittsburgh thank you to the defense department for the funding of originally for head injuries and they

looked at the circuit in my brain for speech and what i see and my circuit has greatly reduced bandwidth and that explains why i had trouble getting speech out. and my hearing circuit was tiny. we could use this scanning to find out exactly where the problem is. sensory issues, a different types of language problems problems, they speak just fine on the tv commercials but they have absolutely no idea what the tv commercials mean because the meaning circuit is not hooked up. one of my favorite chapters is where talk about the different kind of mind i first got everybody was at both thinker like meat

everybody on the spectrum thought that way but then i started reading reviews on amazon and that told me that not everybody on the spectrum thinks that way. [laughter] so when i started to interview people how they think everything i think about is like a photo pitcher like united airlines coming into chicago ica glass structure then i see the crystal palace now the biosphere in arizona and a greenhouse in a class structure category but they're all class structures or in the airport category i see the different airports airports, laguardia and the old thank you paying your in a taxi there is interesting stuff to explore them probably have interesting

and reared stuff in there but with the images i have no of course, with denver it is the tent that is my image for the denver airport. i realized different minds need to work together i am a photo realistic visual thinker i could not do algebra a lot of kids cannot do algebra but they can't do geometry. we need to let them do geometry. another kid on the high-end of the spectrum call the math genius is the pattern thinking mind building can pitchers batted patterns. because in the brain there are two kinds of visual circuits, for what is something and wear something. the mathematical mind is the where is something. these kids often have trouble with reading. cesium third grade of the kid is good in math and get

a harder matchbook don't make them do baby mass then another is a word shanker in all the facts about favorite movie stars or baseball players that he really likes i am always ask how can i tell what kind of a thinker my child is? and often shows up around seven or eight years old visual thinkers like to do art the mathematical mind likes mathematics and lagos the writers are good writing to you also have visual thinker is likely go then some are all words. then you have auditory others i have said dyslexic student she didn't learn anything through vision because she had a lot of visual processing problems.

and sometimes visual images would get distorted. they need to have the different minds working together i can visualize thinking liggett the fukushima and nuclear power plant and they made a mistake no visual thinker would make i cannot design a nuclear reactor but i would have put the emergency cooling equipment for the generators in the basement that was not waterproof. that is what they did. people don't work under water very well. all i have to know about a nuclear reactor is if the pomp doesn't work and if there is trouble is not running. me be a basement with submarine doors or sump pumps.

i and the stand that. that is what -- why we need a different mind. even working on the book richard was my organization. he had the heavy lifting but that is another example of different minds working together. the mother of an autistic child throughout the movie it took a long time to get the right team of people then we got nick jackson and the writer will the writer gives a structure but nick understood my visual thinking in the movie did a great job of showing that. that is another example of different minds working together. one thing that is universal is bottom-up thinking. everything is learned by specific examples. if you want to teach a child what up means then you go up the hills, up the escalator escalator, i jumped up, i walked up the hill.

a bunch of specific examples. i think here in government inside the beltway, we need to get a lot more bottom-up thinking and one of the things that really works is abstract evocation. you have a degree in political science and have a degree in government but they don't know about the practical world how those policies will affect this person over here or over here or over their. that is the bottom-up approach. that is how i look at things but the disadvantage is you have to get out into the field to look at different things one of my very big concerns especially on the of fire and of the spectrum to many people that are not getting jobs. they have not learned to work skills. you have to stretch these

kids. and my mother had a really good instinct. when i was little i would serve forgers to the dinner guest but today kids don't know how to shop or go up to the counter and ordered food and. if little timmy has jaspers no. he castigated himself it is not noisy you don't throw them into the deep end. [laughter] but remember no surprises. but you have to stretch. i was afraid to go to answer branch but it was a choice to weeks for one week or all summer but not going was not the issue. [laughter] because to many at had become the video-game playing recluse. i had a lot of trouble in high-school.

i was teased and high school and i was kicked out because if robo can someone. [laughter] and i went to a special boarding school but i did not learn to study but i learned to work because i cleaned a lot of forestalls but i basically ran the horse barn but it was a lot of hard work. i think the headmaster realize that and at 39 had a selling job then i had to shingle the barn roof and i learned how to work with the discipline of work that i had a bunch of internships in one of my internships i worked at a research lab and i had to work at a house with another lady so i had that kind of works bolt --

work skills and with my master's i like to make science and a sign painter put me work. then i then i got his car just like in the movie one article at a time it was one little project at a time but i showed him the portfolio. said would show people might drawings and my work the other thing is how to figure out how to get in the back door. you never know for you will meet the person they you can show your portfolio to.

get the kids artwork on the phone, a computer programming on the phone. only put the good stuff. people tend to put rubbish in the portfolio. [laughter] then learns things like sex religion and politics we don't need those subjects that work. parked it at home. the other thing is you need to find an employer if he makes a mistake and says something inappropriate the boss will somebody aside in the movie is is you stink. use it. that happened but i now think that boss so much for that and it really bothers me with the smart kids are going nowhere because they haven't learned the discipline to learn the work we need to teach work skills at over 13 years old and we

don't have paper routes any more. but to do something they have got to do every day and there is a discipline to that. what about working at the farmers' market? making power point* presentation is? the other thing is we have got to get kids involved with shared interest. and get into the robotics club with a three the drawing or into the school play with and/or music because only those of the special interest and those that did model rockets they were not doing the teasing. and a science teacher got us motivated. and then i finished off with a formal part of my talk

before we get into questions. i have to microphones down here. is thought to some such a big spectacle? and then for the teachers to shift gears to work with someone who was nonverbal or maybe somebody working in silicon valley. it is all call boxes of and that is difficult. of course, i relate to those who are more like me and i talked to apparent last night and their son it is happy running the projection equipment in new york. they got them out he became minister of those electronic things that is an example then you have to get a boss who was willing to coach them another great job for

12 years -- totaled as a museum to work by. a lot of museums will take them that young how to greet people, don't stand too close, they have to learn those things. [laughter] and we will get some of really good discussion going. get up there now. [applause] if nobody gets up there i will pick somebody. [laughter] we have an icebreaker here. >> i don't have words for my admiration for you.

talk about limited verbal ability he is a spanish speaker and i would not diagnosed you with anything. >> but a person with optimism keeps improving that is why you have to get the mound and expose them. space have not seen that in a science libya would not be interested also a tape recorder they call me that because the use the same phrases but you get more information to fill up the database. so if you imagine the internet to fill with the stuff because to understand something in the future i have two related to something in the database. and then to find some extra fibers out here.

>> and my husband can't stand a loud noise ising crowded places and my daughter can stand the feeling of felt i cannot stand to be crowded in the back of an elevator do we all need labels are we on this spectrum of different directions? >> that is a good point*. with each trait genetics is incredibly complicated. and a lot of the traits in a mild form part of rabil variation but then you have people that are not doing high-level jobs. nonverbal, daily living skills but need supervised housing. this is the problem. you have a little severe

optimism. those that cannot do normal activities by the time i was five or six we could do normal activities then have some dinner or go to a movie or a museum or shopping in the supermarket. with individual so severe you cannot do that. it is a very, very big spectrum where wendy become bipolar? i like the term manic depression because i think that describes as. [laughter] it is a continuing. >> congratulations. thank you for everything you have done for animals as well. >> is a lot of work things have gotten better but they still need to keep improving. in the 90's were the

battle. >> when i first read about you in 30 years ago i became an admirer. to do make a few comments about your empathy for animals before slaughter and do you do the squeezebox? >> one of the things to help me to understand animals being a visual thinker -- thinker of animals living in this century based world. the very first work with the cattle i would get in the chute to see but they were safe -- seeing they were afraid of a reflection, a hosing down if you got rid of those. but the stress is about the same of both places and being a visual thinker

helped me to imagine like cattle and then people think they have got to know they're getting slaughtered and that is something i had to answer reversed started -- when i first started in the f swift plant and they did the same thing there they knew they would be slaughtered they would fight they could jump it but they didn't and how can you care about animals to be involved with slaughtering? cattle wouldn't exist if we did not raise them but we have to give them a life worth living and i feel strongly about that. in those that we are

concerned about that. and a few years ago and never got around to fixing it but for some individuals deep pressure is coming but it doesn't work on everybody. the problem with autism is so variable. >> thank you. >> it is an honor to be here but my daughter is four and recently diagnosed with autism like she has never eaten but we have been told that from the results of your movie i don't know. >> the reason with me is i had nonstop colitis and with antidepressants it stopped the anxiety and stress that it went away.

but the reason why i was eating that is i had tremendous colitis but then the antidepressant stopped it from being compromised so i don't have to do that anymore. >> i'm curious of your thoughts of the work over the years when i read your books and articles and see you online much of what you have written and describe seems significant and i am curious about that. >> kids are not learning word skills. in the '50s they taught social skills and a more systematic way but today

they could hurt the people with the artistic tendencies more than the normal people as they muddle through it so they have to show how much pressure and that was taught in the '50s. you have to teach them. and a half to learn even with the job they love, i was proud of the fact i took care of the whole horse barn but one part of the job that i hated i had to push them up the stalls and i didn't have to do that and i was not fun at all but every job the matter how much she liked them has some groundwork from some of those young people today that are mildly on the spectrum do not want to do the grunt work.

those that whenever it made things setter possible -- that are possible because when i was diagnosed with asbergers i was ashamed and i wish i could be cured but space with of a group that teaches autism acceptance. would you care to elaborate? >> i don't want to be cheered i quit being a college professor first and when they set of books tour up they wanted to cancel my training and i said absolutely not we have to arrange the book tour around the animal auditor training because that is my real job and i think it is great

having asbergers on either hand kids are so hung up on autism they're not doing other things but it is secondary to my livestock worked i will not give that up. but the other reason is i think i am a better role model to still have a real job like teaching my class class, i had situations where in new york i do talk turnaround to the class then turn around and fly back to new york that is not fun. [laughter] but that is important and employment is the other thing. let's show them they have gotten some that is another

thing that is important. what do you do for a job? >> i work at capital property management. >> good. that is really good. where i see a diagnosis being helpful is on relationships. a diagnosis made in the 50's 60's because the relationships were messed up every single one of those people had a job and i deliberately picked people in those people who did not fill the book up with computer people and also learning how to work we have to use show the people what people on the spectrum can really do.

and that also had to show my drawings off but be proud of a job that you are keeping it. [applause] >> i just read in your vote tonight and thank you for coming when the first of my grandchildren was diagnosed with autism i have two grandchildren that has been severely damaged and it was helpful for me of some form of the future and sometimes i feel we're talking about two different things. >> this is the problem. when i was a little kid no language until age four you have to go in there early you cannot let three-year-old in there but

then you divide into two groups. and for those under very severe than and then those that have the syndrome of sensory jumbles world would they cannot control their movements. and there is a good brain headed inside of the person doing this stuff. >>. >> but my grandchildren were born normal and exceeded on the developmental scale and got ill and regress. and the and this one lost everything even the ability to chew and 1.9% what he did was banging his head and pulling hair out that he had

permanent bruising. that is how he lived his life and then a doctor suggested we do intravenous globulin because they felt he had a pediatric disease and from the very first treatment you can tell from my emotions we're doing anything set recant and he had one treatment him and his brother every month for six months and from the first treatment he stop pulling out his hair. >> that is good i have to go on to somebody else. that is good but one of the problems we have thought his son is it is a behavioral profile not a precise diagnosis. i think we will find with severe cases there is other things. >> you mentioned colitis but after we did that we took them to the gi specialist

and they had ulcers. >> the gi problems go with autism. you may have been a child with severe problems with gastrointestinal problems but as the label of what is and he is not getting treated for the gastrointestinal problems. when you have a behavior problem especially strong verbal you have to root out painful problems but gastrointestinal is a big number one. starting with acid reflux then the urinary tract infection, a yeast infection >> now that they are comfortable in their own body now they start to interact with people. >> rights because they are not in complete pain. if the kid gets the optimism table and say he has sought to some. how could he possibly have gastrointestinal issues? that is wrong. >> as you may know the

community has grown in this country. >> which community? >> hispanic. but there is very little awareness. can you translate them into spanish? >> some of them have. the first thinking in pictures is on my website. i am almost positive my other one has i do not remember the spanish title so you have to go into a spanish-language web site am putting my name my first book is in spanish. >> in addition to my son is autistic and he is individual category. he likes the drawing and

draws a beautiful pictures however he looks at the pitchers i know exactly what he sees but when he does that he hand slaps. >> there are different reasons. i can remember doing that to calm down. but if you let a little kid do that all day but then when some kids go like this when they get excited and they cannot control it. >> but what do you see? >> you can do repetitive behavior to call down or just because you get excited and cannot control it and it could be like to iraq's syndrome like every 30

seconds -- terets syndrome i think in the future i think ought to some will be cut down to component parts and the social communication aspect is the true criteria but to say to be autistic you have to have with fixated behavior but to look at the brain scan for example, mine was a large but that is not true for betty also not everybody has the enlarged visual tracked and mathematicians don't have water in their area. but the one thing that seems to be the most common is the problem of face recognition. if you take a bunch of people to put them in the

scanner you will find that. and the technology for face recognition. and that technology is over 10 years old but has not been used. >> figure for coming you are truly inspiring and i have a four year-old son who was on the spectrum and the primary challenge is to send the logic and the internal connect. >> four years old? would you doing for therapy? >> speech and occupational therapy. >> the little kids need 20 hours per week of one-on-one. people are bankrupting their house don't do that but if you try to do it all yourself you will go crazy but get some students and volunteers watch with a speech therapist and

the floor time per cent and then you need to do a lot more of that. he will fight over which matt said. there is the denver start method that is different but what is important is to get enough hours with the effective teaching to gently persuade him to pull out because one-hour of speech per week is not enough. now was the time when you have to act. don't wait. >> see you are more with therapy than putting into a program? >> listening program may help but what is the most evidenced based is the most one-on-one therapy what my speech teacher did issue would say cut and then cut and would alternate between the regular way fast and then slow and with syllables.

but the problem is i have trouble hearing the hard consonant sounds when it was spoken past i that was a special language so slowdown. playing -- played turn taking games or poor -- board games teach having to wait your turn those things the most important thing to do is get a lot of hours of therapy does she have any speech at all? >> yes. >> is it coming and? >> get more hours. this is the time to put in the hours and this thing is some teachers have a knack and others don't. get some people to start working. >> thank you for tonight. knight mom read your book

and right now 23 right now severe in we use words when highly motivated but we did apa. >> and a kid like that knows the difference so he will want to do something that he can contribute. >> we are struggling with that right now with the things that you talk about with the theories and programs that parents don't take advantage of. >> he is pretty much nonverbal, showering? stressing? >> constant help. >> one of the things you'll be interested how can i talk if my eight lips don't move you order that both from

politics & prose and it is a sensory jumble the world and he describes how to learn how to put on a t-shirt he does understand how it goes on. you have to take it slow and maybe spend five minutes to pull it down over his head. then slowly taking his arm through the armhole because if you do too fast he does not register. says things like that with dressing may be attached schedule some kids don't understand the visual scheduled. i visited a group home a long time ago but this worked well i have attached schedule five minutes before breakfast they gave them a spoon or five minutes before a show where they get a washcloth or before school they have the bus so they haven't touched scheduled

then anything he likes to do. >> translator: knows how to like the vcr and television. >> the struggle we have right now just with constant care to figure out how he can have any type of life. >> some will need constant care this is with the spectrum and hopefully you are getting plans in place. this is the problem is this such a big spectrum i will not say go get a job that microsoft, that is not realistic. >> but i think the sensory chapter also the book curley's voice and how can i talk with my lips don't move it will give insight into the sensory jumbles world

that he is an end. >> speeleven >> speeleven i have been holding down to part-time jobs is very resourceful but it is just about progressing to what level. >> what did the study in college? >> parks and recreation i work to part-time jobs with the playground park that is wheelchair accessible ia

the job had i help out with programs. >> host: deal like the job in the parks? >> yes. i live with my parents right now before a graduate college and i do pay the rent each month it is a relatively low amounts. >> maybe you should have your own apartment. when i was in graduate school i needed to make a slow transition. and i was out painting signs at the carnival i realized i would not make a career out of it designs for the stupid himalayan ice monster. [laughter]

unfortunately you are living in one of the highest rent districts in the world and that is a problem. [laughter] >> also shortly before i had asked for a job. [laughter] speeto. [inudible] i had one student who had a good job at the ranch was so high she lived with her sister and something you might try a is relocate i had to relocate from the east to arizona>> the problem il comfortable where i.m. overall. >> but if you want to grow you have to push outside the comfort zone and you have to stretch and then i was 15 years old to the ranch

she would not let me not go then set up internships like to live in my own house with somebody else? that was set up but another example of stretching. you have to stretch. it may be too expensive to live here. >> when the economy is better. >> my career is dan recreation but the job before was to part-time jobs i worked at a resort. >> you have to find something that you like.

but my folks were cooking and i could treat that itself. [laughter] [inudible] >> you have to find something you like to do. we have to go onto the next question. [applause] >> i go to school with a lot of autistic children and kids are picking at themselves and to love leads and did not want to cover with band-aids as they are fearful and also bite to themselves a lot out of frustration and it seems that way. >> summer so abusive they do sensory things.

and also showing up in though literature and i find i get itching at night but of course, they have to shoot scraps of seoul said just like with that could help with some of the. >> i know when you talk about autistic people but wouldn't you mind if i asked a question about an animal? my dog probably wasn't socialized. he was a rescue. he is a very, very fearful dog.

it is difficult with him to walk out of the house was one person but he will with to but does not like to leave the house. and he does not like to leave the house. >> probably the animal has to be very specific as possible for whoever had him before did something abusive to get him out of the house the view taken somewhere in the car that is not associated with the views because it will thinking is specific. talking to make agent last night she has a dog terrified of baseball bats. there was said by wearing one he will have nothing to do with it if you take off that is fine but that is associated with the views.

>> we just don't know what happened in the. >> something bad happened going out of the house. >> he weighs about 50 pounds >> too heavy to pick up. >> how can i best appreciate what he experiences? >> he has feared memory to go through the door. did you try the back door? >> he is really afraid if he is doing that. >> it makes it worse. >> he is not afraid of other dogs but only lets his odor touch him -- owner touch of. >> maybe he was also kept isolated so there was no socialization with other people are dogs.

you can do things to make them better. >> you cannot expect it to complete the thickset. >> over time he has said he is on medication and he has gotten better. >> let's go onto the next question. >> what is the most valuable aspect of pet therapy? >> it works great on certain individuals. the first time they love them there best buddies but the next time they are scared but then they warm up than the third time they hate dogs because they never know when they will bark and a dog is a scary thing and it will hurt their ears. in that situation it is not appropriate. but with course thereaents telle

there first words have been said on a horse involving rhythm and balance are helpful also with swinging and others but that there be absolutely as great. >> we have time for four more questions. >> i.m. a huge and. >> you have a western shirt on. [laughter] i am currently a wildlife major down the street i appreciate the work you do for in a welfare i really connect to dogs i feel they help me concentrate i have never been diagnosed but i feel that we all connected

in some ways i wanted to know more about your connection with animals and how you got connected and that work with my educational background. >> host: what has helped me to think things like an animal. they don't think in verbal language but pictures and smells and touch sensations and so much more specific thinking. it isn't abstract and that helps also i have a lot of insight thinking it is different and as a teenager i thought everybody thought and in pictures i did know it was different. and with very much word thinkers day understand with different types of mines and that helps with animals. >> do have a favorite type

of animal? >> [inudible] i became aware of your book animals with translations but reading your book opened my world to make you realize i was on the spectrum and i was diagnosed low end asbergers at age 30. i am a technical analyst for the united states department of energy. >> you better keep that job. [laughter] [applause] >> you have super benefits. you keep your job. >> i worked the weapons programs. >> you have a good job. >> my question is going back to the book of social relationships, coming

through social communication what is the most pivotal to socially connect people on a more intimate level? >> i called connective people have a shared interest animal behavior, horses, engineering staff and i find most people on the spectrum have a good relationship because they are diagnosed because of the relationships were messed up not unemployment. and one spouse has to realize the asbergers spouse will not be as much demonstrative. >> howard you try to connect?

>> where i have seen successful relationships is i have a friend named jennifer myers who wrote a book on daily living skills and is a computer person. and they met at a science fiction meeting and they had a wonderful romantic dating session whine, candles, you have to set the stage for the discussion on computer data. [laughter] because the most interesting thing in the world is computer data storage. [laughter] you have to find a soul mate what you do is that mathematical or statistical or is it classified? [laughter] >> a wide variety. >> mathematics and engineering and technical stuff.

you are a techie. get involved with another tacky. [laughter] you have a wide range of skills you should be proud of the fact to have a super good job and you need to keep it and you need to get a soulmates that is interested in those kinds of things. >> just like big bang theory. [laughter] >> you are absolutely right. [laughter] [applause] >> how did you get over being so anxious when you were little? >> when i was in graduate school with my first talk about panicking and i walked out. one of the things that helped me in my early thirties i went on antidepressant medication. some people are super anxious and they need help with biochemistry and they just need a little prozac

and i have a chapter of "thinking in pictures" with a believer of biochemistry and i find us visual thinkers and we are panic monsters. we know a lot of complainers to take a little bit of prozac. you don't want to mess with street drugs but it looks like you are in karate said you are getting exercise. >> [inudible] >> i am sorry. i do not know how to read the belts. >> that's okay. [laughter] another thing that helped me every night i do 100 situps on the bet. >> thank you.

[applause] >> do you think that men have different experiences? i was wondering of the extreme mail theories. >> i thought i was just boring and party dresses and dolls? when i took the systematic test i scored high on systematizing. but where that doesn't waldrop is that most on the spectrum are not masculine or muscular but there could be something with the fetus getting more testosterone because i was not interested

in playing house. that was boring. >> so autistic women don't get diagnosed because social skills are forced? >> autistic women usually have a better social skills. and the reason i think it is women in general have a better social skills. [laughter] one thing i found do deal with men that was hard breaking into the male-dominated industry but if you get in a spat with them they get over it and do not hold a grudge. with the little yelling match that is the one thing i have found. what do you do? are you a student? >> i am going to law school. >> get a good job

experience. i hate to harp on a career but to many smart people are not getting good jobs because they don't show up for work on time or they don't like it. >> vinc you for coming. [applause] >> what happened in minneapolis april 1999? >> i start the book without meeting because it is so informative of the industry's attitude and strategies. 1999, the obesity epidemic

was just beginning to emerge and with concern not only among consumer activist and nutritionists -- nutritionists the peoples throughout the industry that gathered together over a rare meeting and ceos of the top manufacturers of north america who got together at the minneapolis headquarters to talk about men other than the emerging crisis and up in front of them got none other than one of their own, michael mudd the vice president of kraft foods armed with 114 slides and laid at the feet of the ceos and presidents of these two companies' responsibility not only for the obesity crisis but the rising cases of diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, he

even linked to their fruits with several cancers. and he pleaded with them to collectively start doing something on behalf of consumers. michael must do something that the competition inside the food industry and you walked into the garage restore and it seems so tranquil with the soft music playing doing everything they can but behind the scenes the food industry is intensely competitive. and the only way to move the industry to a healthier profile would be collectively to do something. from his vantage point* it was an utter failure the ceo reacted defensively and said we're already offering people choices, low-fat, low sugar, if they want that they can buy the alternative products but we're beholden

both to the consumers and shareholders. they left the meeting going back what they continued to do with a cheap reliance on salt and sugar fat. >> what are processed foods? >>. >> it is mostly older process even a baby carriage is processed because it does not grow that way in the ground it is a regular care it that is shaved into the baby form but typically for my sense, processed foods are those things that take natural ingredients and highly refined and and process them and the formula of these products or incredibly dependent on salt sugar fat. is not a mystery you can pick up the label to see thanks to some government regulation, you can see the amount of salt sugar and fat

in these items and it is extraordinary across the board how reliant the industry is not just for flavor but convenience acting as preservatives and also low-cost because they can help the industry avoid using more costly ingredients like fresh herbs and spices

>> we're at the conservative annual political action conference in washington d.c. and we are here with publisher president of gregory here in washington end and you may recognize her she was out book expo last year were for a long conversation on publishing. how are you? >> i am a great. >> let's talk about a couple of books you have coming up and former lt. governor. >> this is a terrific book it is the first best seller of 2013 we are very excited we released this first book as the paper back we wanted to make it be accessible handbook of a consumer's

guide to what people can expect. lot of people talked about what is going to happen with obamacare and actually starting to come into effect now it is here we have to live with it. betsy is an expert as a former lieutenant governor of new york one of the few people who have read the entire bill and goes through it in a very common sense sense, very easy to understand explanation of what is in the bill and what the different laws are, the rules, what you can expect with the exchange's and how it will affect people with the paycheck and withholding and insurance coverage at their job. it is a very practical guide for consumers to find out what there paycheck is. >> this is regardless conservative or liberal. >> it is. she is not a fan but she

walks through a very practical consumer way what do you need to do to navigate. >> the next book? >> the newest one out obama as for horsemen that is apocalyptic and that is the message. colada the books that have come out in the past few months have talked about america at a crossroads at a point* where we have a big decision to make. david, a terrific writer and book person says we have crossed that point* it is too late to avoid those disasters so now we have to buckle down and figure out how to get through. >> the last book you are holding a galley. >> this isn't even out but it is the next big book coming in april.

it is called the ultimate obama survival guide. is a terrific read, a very fine and a practical. the first part tells us all the terrible things here facing under a second term upper rock obama and the second half is a very practical survival guide from how to buy gold coins coins, as stock your house with food and water and how to buy a gun and to what ammunition to stock up. he has covered the bases in an entertaining way and you'll be amused am prepared >> all three deal with the obama second term and there is the understanding that for conservatives this is something they will have to live through. how did you go about acquiring these books and a short period of time?

>> a terrific question we have struggled with and talked about a lot something publishers have to do with but particularly for regnery we focus only on conservative political books and we know every four years it will be an interesting challenge to publish in to the beginning of a new presidential term especially when you don't know if it will be the incumbent or something new. and for what we did to be very practical to survive and thrive. and we knew once the election was over we would pick that one way or the other of the positioning for the title or the subtitle of

the book depending on who won. if it was mid romney be but have had books that says we are in a mess, we have to get out but here is what we have to do. and the others are we are in a mess and it will get worse >> thank you so much. >> good to see you. . .

we are here today to talk about your terrific new book strange rebels 1979 and the birth of the 21st century. i'm going to let you explained in a second yea days that 1979 was the crucial point to history. but let me first start out with a little