afghanistan. but years to work with the added this through if they elect to the inflation that have set -- stood up starting with the reagan administration reid did stand up and made a vague and that to defense. >>host: but what real and what capacity? >>guest: and the state department under a jim baker

and george salt -- shoals of conducted the revolution mandrake. >> that a member of the council of the guardians was a member but we were able to tackle other issues as well and i think we can negotiate effectively with iran that we must do so with the back professor of strength putt you worked with george but

here at the hoover institution national security we interviewed secretary shultz and one of his reasons that if you're going to point* a year in and somebody can they said then nuclear-armed iran may be an acceptable and that they support terrorism is unacceptable that we have the option on the table. the president said he will prevent a nuclear arms iran and most recently said the president is not interrupting so there's a lot of word express but i have allowed to but they

start -- up to fire missiles at the u.s. flag reedy vessel. we made our point* and iran, if anything was more eager to negotiate as a result of we have negative fitting from but talking about two years ago all we did was indict the i rgc officials and had three identified the song that did

not do any good but he went on killing americans and blowing up american ships until the touch amount. that is what. >>host: at the beginning you said we should not attack and it would be bad to be the wrong policy. how to operate from a position of strength but it was to exercise self defense. the nuclear facilities are about 10 of them and spread all of the country and highly defended and very well defended. they could cause of the damage i mentioned including the alienation of the media and people weren't as but in the form of self-defense

would be regarded as a goal or legitimate or targeted to pick the targets we want there are plenty out here carrying arms right now to a canister and because this is a much more limited, targeted activity and yet it shows the iranian terror meant she will not tolerate to.

>>guest: but part of the reagan administration standing up to the caucasian , we said all the right things but but then found out he was involved in the every and contra affair. he absolutely did the right thing and but for those principles that we use indolent to apply them and it doesn't make any sense among their end often i and the zero were when they came out of the government i told secretary shultz those are

the negotiating principles. >> first, you have to have a rhetorical street tousing saddam could civil but to make it more difficult for them to make confessions like pounding on your chest by a maine a yea and for them to do it they want to do but treat them like a sovereign nation and you don't have to except or refused and for that matter but engage them diplomatically the way diplomacy you for ifs.

>> this third of the most important was thank which. moving in to talk to the 12th of an. [laughter] >>guest: but they decided instead of opening clinking it's too lazy day parnis is by refusing to talk does not teachers the enemy.

>>host: and they would be more willing to talk to someone with the broad agenda and we know what the iranians talk about care a loaf planned but with every to you when teen but included commercial of materials, earned an rewrite's and lots of hussein's i have a half he

but that leads me to the fifth and final point* of the and nec corporation -- the from but we have secret meetings, private meetings come even those of commercial leaders like we did with the soviets. what we did and they will stop in richmond and they will say before the a great to us if they have not done

anything and that is so way to achieve progress but your expertise with the commission to change sayings that mean says the owner i'd bet -- and not share who can reveal to them later. these are the it could negotiating principles was the principal cubby feel stronger at that point* and it is true we negotiated but

the attacks us of the eden did hurt an ion and and but to negotiate after the weapons but it will be a much more difficult problem. and you think about the complexity of keeping the world safe. of the cold war but to get the idea of what we will face is the great avenue and

there is a cause to get nuclear weapons the saudi, the turks and the egyptians, are manipulative turn in it is that much more difficult. so let's hope we have to get home and they thank you are writing slow if you exercise ltd., a discreet the with him in the state, and on

negative perfect and knows it so i thank you dylan a xipe rainier are the one to understand a free people as nuclear it happened. but to get the in depth affective men we know how to do. we did yesterday. so far suits did the one reason he could not perform the pretense it has bella who has not been supported by iran but somehow between

one meeting and another the president has decided not to attack preferred mci shares. but the whole situation sets a tone that they could never ever have the review toe over change the budget and we didn't respond when our soldiers were attacked and

may not are fighting said the rebuilt it into we did not put that enabled iran not only to kill americans but also their influence with iraq that now is probably greater than ours. so it was not a good strategy to just take it on the chin reaches but to look

optimistically and iraq with any and example doing the same thing to let them and do it and and but with damaging efforts are to convince them that we are credibly going to prevent them from having nuclear weapons. >>guest: you have to feed it with kurt -- giraffes' play? >> i hope it does thank hunt index fiercely ini a

israeli. i know that but without watching you could have another holocaust. only 50 million left in the world and the german kicked six -- six -- 6 million in the course of the war so few could have another holocaust , we keep track of of india but to do something , i still believe

that iran does not want to have a war. from fission. >>host: you were ambassador but there are elements within iran that you almost create a sense of oppression and domestically and but from outside the country you art and things on and doing the right thing to convince the producers not to attack iran at this flight to get something going which is an old photograph.

here and richard nixon route >> abalone the votes and food on so between. it will will supply a the practices she had to date. four of them. if we could the administration is doing just the right thing with israel to reassure israel that we have ideas and are committed

to their support but then we do need to have those ideas and come up with ideas need to do more to really solve this problem. >>host: the fact there you are jewish did it play any role with the iranians? >> i am not but it set the egyptian and it come from a family that probably left. >> but we have been in the middle east for 2,000 years

and my mother was egyptian and her father was from care to mia father mother from baghdad and so they all have relatives in iran and culturally i do not distinguish myself from any more than egyptians or iraqis and they grew up in the horse -- house were my parents studied arabic and breyer -- were a secular family with belly dancing and then definitely in cultural lead middle eastern. maybe they're healthy because when they come in to

try to sell something at a very, very steep price that is something we were used to but we are added disadvantage if we have people to negotiate you are used to western-style rational negotiations. they're negotiating is definitely different. the end result is very often the same with the same principles of trust but verify, but the process is definitely different. >>host: how close do you think iran is to getting nuclear weapons? >> i think they already have the ability to build a nuclear weapon. no doubt about that with the national security community but we have many solid reports that have been written where each of the

capacities that you need for a nuclear weapon have been found to exist by the inspections we have the ability to conduct the things to iran who has allowed them. how long would it take if they made up their minds to do it? they have to enrich over 90 percent they only have some at 20% and the rest is under 5% so there is quite a bit of work to do but they are building a better enrichment machinery. a they want to break out and do with fast they could certainly do it within one year. >>host: abraham sofaer from the hoover institution "taking on iran" this is

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-- seat and abraham lincoln was elected and came home to became and a bit to candidates jefferson davis and she kept a diary throughout the war and it is one of the most famous accounts of the civil war. there are about 70,000 books written about the civil war and one of the three most important not only for its own literary value, but because she was there. it is source material and almost referenced in any historians. what i wrote about mary chesnutt is a two volume book for the first time reunites 200 of the photographs that she collected with her diary which were certain now and intention all along buthen

if a finished we found them at it epa but here at the library they are reunited with the manuscript. we read the -- have this book to show when she was so ahead of her time but she was really a great team epic

like the odyssey and creating an epic on all levels that the classic updated is with the introduction of a society poillon entry, war, everyday life the music, poetry, everyday people and she put it all in her diary. we have to remember shoot was sent and she kept them to grab one dash throughout the war of civilization and but then she gave them to a schoolteacher friend of hers to place them under and are more abandoned five and a

but with the my into perspective about race relations and human rights it was one of the best known books but she had a front row seat on a new day along her husband's family ever union man and not in favor of the secession of norris.

>> dan said he has not at all resigned but then they were in the thick to future zaph but the day day, representative it was mary ned davis senselessness the the into a conflict of a newly formed nation and mont negative prepared to do but they saw they had no army, no currency, no structure, a completely foolhardy to do this and she stayed in richmond in a hotel where the evenings were filled with the comings and goings of famous generals and military evaders. . .