>> why then did i choose to write a memoir that is broken all precedent for personal revelations of a supreme court justice? why run the risk that others might mine the circumstances of my life story to extract hands on my little thinking. some critics have commented that i do in fact alluded in my memoir to the issues that may

come before the court. it is impossible to live in this society and not in some way be affected by a court decision. it was impossible for minority students like me to get a college education in the 1970s. i did without some a feeling the impact for better or for worse, i am a product of a primitive action. just as it is impossible for a homosexual couple today, not to be affected by the dome and proposition eight cases in some way. memoirs, just we are all clear, i'm not predicting it, okay? memoirs will no doubt be written in the future that remember 2013 as a turning point for those whose lives will be changed for better or for worse. when you live to a particular

moment of this nation's history, you cannot be automatically disqualified from hearing a case that touches your life experience. otherwise there would never be enough judges to decide. which brings me back to my reason for writing and exceptionally candid memoir. because, at this moment in the arc of our nation's history, and where my own path as an individual happens to intersect with that, i am offering myself as a role model, and that can be the most valuable service i can perform. no less valuable than my jurisprudence. my goal in writing the story of my own journey from a child shouted by juvenile diabetes, or rental alcoholism, in a home where english was not spoken, where the horizons of

opportunity where narrowly constrained, all i can do is offer hope. i wanted to inspire young people, minorities, those have struggled with chronic illness, women, anyone who's felt themselves marginalized by difficult circumstances, to know that someone like them can indeed stand in a public space, and claim a voice in determining how this country imagines itself. i wanted to express my gratitude to the mentors who have helped me at each step of my own journey by using the pages of my book to mentor others on a larger scale. i knew i could not achieve such ambitious goals in a memoir without telling a good story, without my words capturing at least some corner of my leaders hearts and that in turn could

not be accomplished without some bearing of my own heart. the honesty and openness that the tasks required would make me more mobile to personal criticisms by me, but it seemed the price worth paying. is my story were to serve a meaningful purpose, then people would have to identify with it. vulnerability cuts both ways. if you want to reach and connect with other people, you need to open yourself to connection. in my book i talk about how a function community and humane social order depend on our being able to imagine ourselves in someone else's shoes. i wrote about the experience that helped me to understand that truth from a young age, about teachers who disparage

some kids with working moms, because they didn't imagine that a mother's desire to give her kids a catholic school education might be her motivation to go to work. about the policeman who accepted shopping bags of free fruit as his due from the street vendor in our neighborhood. that officer didn't imagine what a huge cut of a poor man's profit he was taking. i wrote about where i grew up, about the streets of the south bronx that felt like a war zone, and that i was the teen years old when i understood how it is when things break down. people can't imagine someone else's point of view. the same time i was writing those words with the hope that young person reading them today might conceivably imagined herself in the shoes of a supreme court justice. it cuts both ways.

many readers have labeled this understanding as empathy, or as a constructive and helpful interpretation of what that word would mean. it's not a word that i use myself in the book. in a media storm that surrounded my confirmation hearing, that word was twisted to imply a favoring of emotion at the expense of the rational dictates of law. i'm not going to argue terms or play humpty dumpty, but i do know what it means, what makes a good story is the same thing that makes human connection and community. being able to imagine yourself in someone else's shoes. it's also one of the skills that makes you a good judge. you need to imagine yourself in the shoes of both parties that stand before you. you need to be sensitive to how your words are perceived on all

sides, and you will value restraint, and even self-censorship, to ensure that your story achieves its attempted purpose. these then are my reflections. yes, i do practice self-censorship because it is often situational. and yes, my notion of freedom has changed since it became a justice of the supreme court. being for the first time on the court of final resort, i've come to appreciate in unanticipated ways the great burden that my work imposes. when my court decides an issue, one party wins the case, but another loses. and many others will be constrained to their behavior by our decision. the freedom that i hold as a justice of this court is extraordinary.

and i cannot for a moment lose sight of the fact that that freedom is defined both as choice and as responsibility. the responsibility to speak and act, pardon the pun, judiciously. and if i dare say it, wisely. [applause]

>> wasn't that fantastic, ladies and gentlemen? give it up for justice sotomayor. [applause] >> you know, skip, if people read my book they will learn my much chose me never to mark about. that's a sacred it was in our household. i love since they made the attachable -- so you can see i'm still upholding her advice or her instructions, but i do market my books now. >> you're a good daughter. i enjoyed your talk very much, and you raised several interesting things, secrecy, privacy, transparency, the power of reticence versus the power of revelation. the connection between the storyteller's art and features craft. i found all this quite fascinating so let's start with this question, your honor. for the epigraph of your book

use the following lines from josé benitez own, to puerto rico i return. forgive the exile, this sweet frenzy. i return to my and beloved world in love with the land where i was born. the also include a four page glossary for spanish terms but i love it. they are used to to book along with their english translations. now, benitez's poem inspired the title of the book, "my beloved world," and is about an exiled bittersweet return to his native land. yet you weren't born in puerto rico. why did you choose this lovely poem to situations of any tradition that will in turn define you somewhat to this lovely memoir? and i'm thinking especially of the lines you quote on page 23, to know what you need to see it

in dreams from afar. to learn how to love it, you need to leave it. >> i'll start by telling you a little something and then i will answer. among the people who reviewed my book before it was published, there was a grand debate on whether i should provide a spanish english plot. among the international writers who are part of my group reviewing this book, they called americans lazy, unwilling to read a book that contained foreign languages without someone doing the work for them and creating a glossary. those who were not part of the international world hated the fact that i did this. yes who won out? because i did include the

glossary. but i include it because i had a number of very dear friends who are upset because their reading was interrupted by having to figure out words spent by a strange foreign tongue, spanish. >> exactly, exactly. so that in turn partly responds to your answers. because it really wasn't my attempt to define myself as returning to puerto rico, why i took either the poem or the title. "my beloved world" is my entire world. my work world, my puerto rico world which was part of that. my world in environments that i describe at college in princeton, law school at the faraway place.

it's also a line that i used in my book when i talked about being comfortable in both worlds, and yet never feeling completely a part of either. you can't come from a world like the one i grew up in, south bronx, and enter the world that i got catapulted into as a college student, princeton. live the life since then now on the world stage without feeling the frenzy of exile, constantly. and meeting regularly to take stock and return to the essence of my world with love, to take strength from it.

i wrote about the south bronx in terms that i think most people are unaccustomed to. the south bronx people don't know is the one portrayed in the famous movie when i was growing up, fort apache. dirty, crime and drug ridden. that's the world most people think about. i wrote about the people. i wrote about the values of that community, about the hopes and struggles of the people who live within those communities so that others could see a world that was different than their expectation, and that could be a beloved world for someone like me, who that community birth. and so it wasn't an identity of just being a puerto rican, although mind you, that was a

really important part of this book, to introduce people to an island that many americans think is foreign. you know, it is interesting how many people have asked me, did my parents need a visa when they migrated to new york, okay? so part of my purpose was a little bit educational but it was more promotional to try to show people how one's life can be endearing, and loved and be loved even with challenges. >> beautiful. it just occurred to me when you were talking that you and i, an african-american and a puerto rican, had been here say, 30 years ago, i'm not sure that we could have both embrace our ethnic identities so publicly, as publicly as you have in your

memoir. do you think that's right? you know, i was thinking of the black intellectuals who would have to, the epigraph would be from aristotle or plato or shakespeare, because you have to show that you were, what, cosmopolitan, a citizen of the world and that meant leaving what some people call the kettle of your own culture. >> -- the ghetto of your own culture. >> unprivileged i can do that now. i think we have grown into a place in our society where we accept, many except diversity as a positive thing. the pin lecture wouldn't have existed until after, and it didn't exist until after september 11 because people began to realize that we live in a more open and public and international place that we ever have before, and we have to

regard the world identity in a way that we had been unwilling to recognize before this. and i think you're right, the ghetto has come with us but it's also because we want them to come with us. there's a richness in accepting that that i think you and i can be more cognizant of. >> the cost was too high, our ethnic predecessors was too hot. >> absolutely. how many people do you know from a generation, skip? and i'm sure we have friends who are still tortured by that fractured identity. i would rather not be fractured. i would rather behold. and i think this book is a testament of how you can get there. >> i agree. the notion of privacy seems bound up to me in the notion of private life, especially the life of a family.

someone to ask you how your mom, your mother respond when she read the memoir. because really, i commended the memoir to be. is fascinating, riveting reading and a lot of it is about the justices mother and father. so how did your mom respond when she read the memoir? among your family and friends, did anyone feel that you have violated her or his privacy? >> the only person that i sought permission from to write about that was from my cousin, miriam, to write about her brother. so anyone who reads the book will understand why. nelson was my childhood soulmate, my alter ego who died near the age of 28 from aids, drug induced aids. and that have never been publicly spoken about in our

family. and, in fact, her and on her father's side called miriam after reading the book crying that she had not known. miriam's response to me after reading the draft of the book was, sonia, i see the love you've shown in dealing with nelson. and if his story can help any child avoid his pitfalls, it's worth telling. so go ahead and tell it. my mother, who -- why do they keep the book from her? because she's my mother. >> absolutely. [laughter] you were terrified. >> no, no, no.

the book describes the growing with my mother. we had been shadowing each other's growth and development my entire life it and every step i have taken and my mother has taken with me, but unlike the idolized image i think the public had before the book came out, it was not a growth rot from perfection. just as justice stevens had told me when i came to the bench, sonia, no one is born a justice. you grow into being a justice. there's a lot of children, and mothers out there, that think mothers are born. nobody is born a mother. you figure out how to be a mother. and that's what my book shows was my mother's growth. my growth and her growth of being mother and daughter.

and i just knew in writing the book that my mother would understand. she'd read the book. she's now nearly 86, she'll be 86 in a couple of months. she's reading a little bit more slowly than she did when she was younger, and she read it in three nights. and after each clip she would call me up. after the first six chapters, and the sixth chapter and for her star. she called me crying. so much so that i couldn't get two words out of her. she called me the next day to tell me how beautiful that part of the story was. the second set of chapters she called to tell me, sonia, i hadn't known you had done so much. [laughter] and the third section that

disclosed my near -- i don't want to call it near-death -- close calls with my diabetes, she said to me, do you think i'm stupid? i always knew something was wrong. but maybe it isn't the thing you kept from me because i would've been more frightened than i was. my mom i think has very much enjoyed the book, and has enjoyed a greater openness between us. even on the issues of health. >> did it bring you closer? >> absolutely. because i think she now understands what motivates my secrecy about my health issues with her, and we've actually talked about, since the writing of the book, i've made her one promise, that if i ever have a health condition that serious, that i will share it with her. >> it's important to note that

her mother was a nurse, so it's -- >> a great irony of this. which is because she's a nurse, she clearly knows all the dangers, and it amplifies her fears. >> of course. >> and so it may be worse for her. >> but you have been injecting yourself since your eight. where did you get the courage? >> well, i mean, and orange is one thing. they don't teach you on oranges anymore, thank god. hitting that orange is nothing like hitting your own arm. i didn't perceive it as courage. i proceeded as necessity. in fact, i meet a lot of juvenile diabetics now, and many of them who still haven't figured out how to give themselves their shot. my first words to them is, take control of your life. don't let your parents control

you that way. because your freedom is the most important thing you can have. and it was the fear of losing my freedom, my freedom to go to my grandmother's house to visit friends. that was more valuable to me than the fear of the injections. >> it just occurred to me that for historical reasons that we both understand, when we think diversity we think of large categories like hispanic or puerto rican or african-american, but we tend not to think of other factors that compose our identity. how important is being diabetic to your sense of -- for example, you will be described as pop as the first hispanic supreme court justice, but he found that you

were the first diabetic supreme court justice, would this be something of importance to you? >> i don't know if that would be important for, and actually what we know -- would we know? hemi supreme court justice would have hidden that? one of the reasons i was so open about my diabetes was to encourage people with illness to be more open about it. i think it's important to talk about some of my near situations being a product of my secrecy about my disease. but the answer to your question is very direct. the first thing i described in my preface, the very first opening of the book outside of my initial comments are about my diagnosis of diabetes. do you chop off your hand and not describe yourself as a

person who dealt with not having a hand as the people from boston will they don't have limbs today? chronic disease is a part of your life. unmistakable part of your life, and it's inescapable that will have an impact on your character, for better or for worse. and i think that accepting that within myself took decades. and so if i can help any young diabetic child who reads my book to come to that, terms with that reality soon, then the book is valuable. >> i've had several operations, he. i had a misdiagnosis when his 14. led also to publications and i tell my students in my intro to afro lecture course that when they rolled me into the operating room the last thing on my mind is the history of black americans.

[laughter] i am not a black man at this time. [laughter] your honor, in the preface of the book you talk about the importance of dreaming as a way of developing aspirations and drive. you dreamt of becoming a lawyer and judge after falling in love with those two famous puerto ricans, nancy good and terry mason. [laughter] and eventually had to give up on the grid in the military or as a police detective, one of the early fantasies, because of diabetes. it's also very much a story about overcoming obstacles at the same time. loss of your father, he was 42, his alcoholism, your mothers challenges as a single parent, the loss of your cousin to drugs, aids complications, and your divorce but you don't make excuses in the book. when you write about your father's tragic early death, for instance, you say, and i quote, i know he did this to himself.

even as a child i knew he was the one responsible. it's on page 44. and then on page 49 there was no saving him from himself. my question, your honor, is this. when we try to solve social problems where does individual responsibility and a shaping force of the environment start and stop, do you think? >> i don't know the answer to that, that i do know, that one answer for how i've approached life. which is i can't change you. who you are, how you respond, what you do, those are your choices. my choices are to change me. and so as an individual i.t. and to look at situations and not try to figure out what you need to do to fix them. i start with figuring out what i

need to do to help the situation. and i think that that's where you draw the line which is not trying to assess blame, who's responsible, you army, but for you to start, and all of us as a society, to start with you fix this, things will be better. what a useless conversation that is. i think a more valuable one for each individual when you're working on social change, to figure out what you can do to better the situation and the interaction. and that if everybody is getting in that way, that eventually an answer comes. it's what i think benefits a situation better. >> responsibility starts at home. >> exactly. >> in your princeton yearbook -- >> i know, gosh. >> you quote norman comments. i quote, i am not a champion of

lost causes him a but of causes not yet won, unquote. >> what an idealistic person. if you read my book you know i still a little bit of that. i'm still a dreamer. >> how would that graduating senior at princeton assess the life you've lived against that quote today, do you think? without going into any details of cases pending before the court. [laughter] what causes not yet won, unquote, are you most concerned about today, your honor? >> now you really are trying, aren't you? [laughter] and i once got in trouble for saying i take the fifth. [laughter] and so i won't do that anymore. >> okay. >> all right. i'm still fighting to ensure that there's education for our kids. it's, you know, i can't --

[applause] the judicial code doesn't let me do that. i can't lobby. the judicial code won't let me do that either. so what can i do? i can come and this book is part of that effort, work at inspiring the citizenry to become more actively involved in bettering the education of our kids are and empowering kids, because by the way, every public event that i do, whether it's at a law school or a university, i insist, or as i was just a day ago, in colorado, working on the opening -- well, it's been

opened, but the public launch of a new judicial state court in colorado. i insisted that they include an event that includes kids. >> great. >> from generally my favorite audiences are middle school, high school, college were possible but middle school and high school. because i can talk to those kids and excite them about the idea of education as getting into their curiosity, then i've done a very good thing. know, i didn't -- to amplify my voice. i stuck my head in the pale because i didn't know what a voice would sound like in a pale. it was curiosity, and it's the curiosity that has kept me learning my entire life.

and so that's what i hope the cause i'm still working at, improving our educational opportunities in this country. >> we have one more question, is that it? what would that graduating senior the most surprised about -- this is not the last question, this is just a thought. [laughter] what was that graduating senior most surprised about the way your lives him as it were, have turned out? >> it wasn't a dream ticket on the supreme court. it was a fantasy. and one that i never seriously contemplated. and even greater fantasy, swearing in a vice president, throwing a first pitch at yankee

stadium. [laughter] [applause] beyond all of those things, which enter those far-fetched nighttime dreams, potential, being number one on the new your times bestsellers list. >> that's what i'm talking about. [applause] way to go. >> all right, all these authors in the room, want to be on fantasy? the improbable. >> that's great. >> for a kid who spoke spanish before interest, who spent her college years trying to learn how to write, and with help, as every good book has people who help, but to get to that place where storytelling, which has been the most far-fetched way. >> i think the audience would agree, you're a great

storyteller, fantastic. [applause] >> final question about the craft of writing -- >> he does and give up. >> we are at pen. it is arthur miller, and cinco de mayo by the way. there's a striking a note here between issuing of a judgment and crafting a story. imagining yourself in the shoes of both parties, ensuring that your story achieve its intended purpose, killing your darlings as you put it. so first, your honor, what did you find different between crafting legal opinions and legal speeches, on the one hand, inviting a number on on the other hand? and second and finally, what role might reading fiction play in developing the capacity to imagine oneself in another's shoes? >> as you will learn from my

book, i have learned that the art of persuasion is absolutely necessary to being both a good lawyer and a good judge. it's the same art that you need to tell a good story. you have to persuade the person who is listening to you, whether in verbal speech or reading new, that there's a purpose to what you're talking about. and you have to explain that in a captivating way. now, the audiences are different when i write a legal opinion. the audience is sort of other lawyers, other judges, history. and as i explained earlier in my speech, you have to write an opinion based in enough law and precedents so that you're not

sort of just announcing a conclusion, that it's based in interwoven and proven to be a part of the law. so that's a different kind of writing and can be a little more tedious than the book. but from both, have to have their power of storytelling. you have to come away reading my opinion and believing i am right, because i persuaded you by the force of my logic. is easier to do that when you read my dissent. because in my dissent it's my voice a little bit and in many ways when i want to show someone the power of my legal reasoning i tell them to read my dissent. because when you're crafting a majority opinion, you have to craft for as many people that are going to join. so if you have unanimous opinions, your satisfying eight other people. and if you're a writer you have

to know how hard that is. if you're a fiction writer, though, you are telling, you are satisfying a different kind of audience, the one you are pinging your book too. and with the power of your idea you can structure your book in that way alone. there's something slightly different in judicial craftsmanship, but both of them at essence come from the same name, to persuade spent is there a novel in your future, your honor? [laughter] >> not for a long time. you know, you writers work hard. it took me writing this book to figure that out. you know, i write legal opinions and it's not easy. writing a book was much harder than ever imagined when i started out. if i'd known how much work went into, i might not have done it. [laughter] >> ladies and gentlemen, let's

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want to hear because it means they have to pull back. so while we get them here at college come is a chance for them to take ownership of their lives and be responsible for what they need to do. and that is a most important skill for them when they hit our doors. >> what is your responsibility as a college professor to make them successful? >> well, my job is to challenge them and that is sometimes people aren't quite ready for when they get you. we are here's something to hold their hands. we want a friend environment for them. this is the kind of place where want them to feel that it's open to consider new ideas. but my job is to take them, give them some of those new ideas that challenge them to think in new ways that they haven't before. >> and unique students, can you now predict who will be successful and who won't? >> oh, no. at first not at all because the first time they are all very pleasant. most of the students we get are going to be successful.

so that's the good news, but on the first meeting, no. it's almost impossible to predict who's going to be more successful than others. >> what are some of the downfalls? >> well, there are lots and lots of distractions here, or any other university. so that's probably the biggest downfall, which is not paying attention to what they need to do. so not going to class can not getting assignments done, not doing the studying the that's the most important thing in terms of making sure they have the best opportunity to succeed. >> what's the most common question students ask? >> what's going to be on the test, and that is simply not the right question to be asking. what they ought to be doing is they ought to be in class on a regular basis engaging with us on the material. if they are there, if it's part of this dialogue that we're having day today, they will know what's on the test. they will get part of the learning experts the whole way.

>> professor gould has personal technology change. >> it has. the chains that probably for the better but a little bit for the worse. into what it is change in the worse, as we know have to compete with all these other sorts of calls of students attention to become the class and have their cell phones with them, their smartphones. is lots of other things they can do if they're not excited about what's going on in class, and we need to compete with that. at the same time we can use technologies like skype to bring the outside world into the classroom. we have these giant video monitors that we can really make some of these things come alive for students and give them an opportunity to do so we're taught in the classroom like these theoretical issues with what's really happening out there in the real world. >> is important to give students letter grades? >> important for whom? them or for others? i don't know that it really is that important. i don't find it to be as useful

as others might, but students want them and they want them because that's what they're used to. they have all been competing for the and they think that's what employers want. frankly, i think we can get a whole lot more out of the running if wishing for been any more detailed way that talks our strengths and weaknesses, but they brought to the table, more like a letter of recommendation and a letter grade. >> do you find a difference between students who take out loans, student loan, or students who have the parents pay for its? >> not that but if you find a difference between students who work and those students who do. so the students who are working, this is their money right then to students who take up a little, is eventually going to be their money, but to them it's kind of somewhere in the future. those who are working, they are putting in the sweat equity right now to get the education, and i think they are generally

more serious students and they certainly demand more of all of us in the classroom. >> in your book, "how to succeed in college," you have a chapter, subchapter the liberal ivory tower. can a conservative student, any student whose conservative be successful at a harbor, at an american? >> well, absolutely. and i think, let's go back and take a turn. veterans in the book to dispel the myth. these are not bastions of liberalism that are unfriendly. what we're after here at the university is i'm doing my job, right, any student become senior is going to have his views challenged. whether they are a liberal or conservative. those kids are going to be challenged to think about what they really believe in, to take in the prevention we are offering and to leave with the own view of the world. if i'm doing my job right, that's what's happening. that ought to be both exciting

and probably to some extent a little frightening to students no matter what their political perspective is. because ultimately we want them to be critical consumers of information no matter what they end up believing. >> but you do say in your that college professors and campuses tend to be more liberal than society in general. >> i also say but that's not so much about being a college professor. some of that is about generally people who have more education, ph.d's tend to be more liberal than others in society. there's also something about, let's face it, most of us were college professors have decided that money is probably than not the most important thing for us because we would be out doing other sorts of things. now, that said, whatever our perspectives are, whatever our ideologies are, and they vary, so you'll find conservative professors throughout an institution as well as liberals. these we are doing our job right, our students don't know our ideologies are in awe also

says in the book of the best compliment i ever got from a student was the one who had no idea what might ideology was until she came to babysit our kids one night and saw my wife's bumper sticker on my wife's car. because what they really good professor does is take him or herself out of his or her background, out of that conversation with a student. it's not about us. it's about them. and again, our job is to challenge them to be critical consumers of information. >> does tenure help students be successful? >> well, i think tenure helps faculty to be successful, and if we're successful they will be more successful. so this begs the question, what does tenure get? tenure allows us to look at what we think is important without having to worry about someone looking over our shoulder saying, that's an unpopular idea. if we're all worried about unpopular ideas, then we would not be today understanding gravity. we wouldn't be understanding the

world as frugal as opposed to square. so that's what tenure gets us, and that gives them faculty who are able to really do a full inquiry, growth in knowledge, grow the science. and students benefit from that middle because we are able to -- studentcam but to say in those research projects. so i think if i am a critical consumer of higher education if i really want my money's worth as a student, i'm in favor of that. >> professor gould, what do you teach in the loss of? >> i teach criminal law and the law school. i also teach over in the college of schoo school of public affai. >> what do you teach there? >> their i.t. to law and society. spent what sparked you to write "how to succeed in college"? >> that's a great question. i've been teaching for over 20 years and i felt i was beginning to see some of the same problems with students over and over and over again. things like not understanding how to cite material and inadvertently getting themselves

in trouble with plagiarism. freshman economy and and see this great new world that is college and take it and give everything of what's in the classroom. and i regularly been a my students with hands, and i began to see i was in the same e-mail out year after year and i thought you know what, time to write the book, that way i can just say buy the books i don't have to keep sending e-mails out. >> what's the best thing parents can do to prepare their kids speak with the are a couple things parents can do. so one is the academic side. the best thing that students can do to be prepared for college is reading and writing. and i know that sounds so old school, but it is as true today as it was when i went to college in the olden days. that's the best thing we can do to have been prepared by the other thing parents can do is they can get the students ready to live their lives on their own. so we hear so much about helicopter parents today. really the most important thing parents can do is get the

students ready for the parents not to be there. so this is as simple as okay, how do you do laundry if you're a college? but it's really much more to the point of welcome how are you going to get yourself up each day and go to class and do what is required of you? how are you going to balance a social life with academic life? those come as a friend of mine says, those are life skills and those are the kind of thanks eric for the other kids ready for. >> we been talking with jon gould about how to succeed in college while really trying. professor gould, thanks for being on booktv. >> my pleasure, thanks. >> here's some of the latest headlines running the publishing industry this past week. penguin books has agreed to a $75 million settlement in antitrust e-book pricing suit. last year the department of justice proceeded with lawsuits against apple and five major publishers who are engaging in what they believed to be price fixing between the companies.

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>> so, this is a poem that i had first heard in turkey. come, come whoever you are. wanderer, worshiper, it doesn't matter. hours is not a caravan of despair. come, even if you broken your vows, a thousand times. come yet again, come, come. a couple reasons that this is meaningful to me, it's in the book sacred ground and i say that whenever look at the statue of liberty, this beautiful woman of welcoming, the inscription is bring me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free but it's this notion of america and radical welcoming and openness, bring your traditions, plant the seeds in american soil, let them grow into institutions and and congregations that welcoming and open to others. so that spirit of welcoming and openness that i think is at the heart of the american tradition

i think it's a part of islam as well and nobody articulates that better or more pete oakley. so i need to confess that i get emotional when i talk with people like eboo about issues we are addressing today. particularly the issue of interfaith relations and also the issue of the idea of america. right after 9/11 several of us, a lot of us, gathered at a mosque here near usc. and i heard a sentence that changed my life. and it was this. to be religious in the 21st century is to be interreligious. and it is that dedication that draws me to eboo and the way things. so i'm going to apologize only once for being emotional about

these things. if i get choked up you will just say, chalk it up to that. but one of the great moments in his book is this telling about the genesis moment for this book. spent this is actually ramadan 2010. it's august a figure some waking waking up at around 4 a.m. and i'm having my last meal before doing my prayers that begin the time of fasting but it's at that point that i'd like to, as muslims do to read more from the koran or read just additional time of centering and meditation to muslims believe god listens extra carefully during those hours. but instead if people remember what was happening in august 2010, it was a crazy discourse were having around cordoba house, or the ground zero must. so i'm not reading roomy, i'm not reading the koran, i'm literally right wing hate website trying to anticipate the

storyline of the day. because everyday there are new attacks, and there's new word about this being a terrorist command center, et cetera, et cetera but these are the people i've known for many years, the people i admire have spoken of building an institution, supported by the muzzle community that would be of service to the entire nation. ..