independent class of people creating literature and the resulting ideas, representing reality. and this was good for the democracy and it's in the constitution, empowering congress to make copyright laws. so i mean i'm not sort of spouting some off-the-wall policy notion that i have come up with on my own. this is deeply embedded in our concept of democracy. >> host: mr. turow there is quite a bit of pushback on this op-ed. you were called a luddite among other things because of your position. >> guest: right. there are all kinds of different interests that don't like the idea of copyright protection. the search engines as i said they want to be able to exploit

copyrighted work in all kinds of different ways. people do not realize how powerful google and its cousins are with congress now. google is a think the second-largest company in the world and guess what? in a political system where money makes a difference bass weighing enormous ways. but it's not just the googles of the world. of course amazon doesn't like some of the things i have to say. they too are a mighty economic entity and beyond that there are what are referred to as the copyleft, the people who want all books to be free. or they are for copyright to have a limited term. most of them are academics and they drive me, because their books don't make

>> guest: in a sense its predecessor sold better as an e-book than as a hardcover. i was very lucky.

both versions sold really well but at used a few years ago you cannot begin to imagine how dynamic the book has been throughout my career. the percentage of hardcover versus e-book is somewhere between 75 and 70% hardcover still and if i were guessing i would say that "identical" sold 35% and that has to do with the fact that its popular especially with lawyers. lawyers are generally well to do so they can afford kindle and nook and reading devices so i think that is what accounted for it. i am like every other author. whoever reads "identical" whether it's from a library or a reading device or the old-fashioned way of turning the pages that is great with me.

authors first of all of course want an audience. >> host: not that we are encouraging people people to do this but when is publishes in october we attack on line to see people can download it? >> guest: i don't need to check. i know they will be able to download it for free from the pirate sites. the publishers are finally beginning to get a little more sophisticated in their response to this. all of this though invites a world literally like the cia where there is downloading countermeasures and you know i have been hearing somebody proposed a scheme that when you download a book in which the encryption has been script out that there'll be some bot in it that will expand the size of the file so that it eats up all of your computer space, all of your hard drive space in something like that is bound to happen if people keep stealing books. >> host: scott turow we have referred to "identical" a couple of times.

what's the plot? >> guest: scott turow is the title about identical twins, one of them running for mayor in my mythical -- mythical county and the other devout to be release from prison after 25 years for murdering his girlfriend and the murder victim's brother, a wealthy eccentric guy accuses the mayoral candidate of having a hand in the murder so it's based on the reinvestigation of the murder and talks about politics and murder and old love affairs and the mystical kind of relationship between identical twins. >> host: how does it and? >> guest: well, very well. [laughter] >> host: scott turow novelist, lawyer and president of the authors guild has joined us here on the tv. "identical" comes out in a sober.

[applause] >> thank you. i'm a little nervous. to be here this morning with all you people. at the book expo. i am one of those people that believe of those people that believe it or not you can see me on television and i may not look like that guy but i'm the kind of guy when he gets into any area he looks or the bookstore and he hangs around the bookstore. it's a magnet for me. i like to explore bookstore like dating. i explored the recesses of bookstores. i started to his c. grad school at chapel hill and i fell in love with politics and prose in d.c.. i hope somebody's here from there. it is absolute and number one watering spot in d.c. not just for the literati but for everybody. we hang out and drink coffee and be apple popovers in the basement. it looks like a grad school

operation going on all the time. we love that place and in nantucket i love the jewels bookstore which is the place to go. it was always a place to check in. the independent bookstore such a cultural phenomenon in this country. it's not just a place to sell books but a place to give lectures and it really is an ongoing intellectual life. it's the one place you love doing it so congratulations for doing this. i read the nerd times a day. business is not coming, it's living. what does everybody think? [applause] it's good to be in the big apple or is that was once called and may well be again called the city. that depends on who wins the mayor's race. it's going to get worse. actually our member growing up at the tv show called city. there were 8 million stories in in the city. this has been one of those.

anthony weiner is one of the top two. i was thinking of helen hunt the other day and that movie is good as it gets the movie with jack nicholson and this woman said why can't i just find a normal boyfriend? is that too hard to do these days? anyway everybody seems to be leaving politics these days. the other day this week michele bachmann who i really do love, michele bachmann announced she is leaving politics and i'm tempted to say, please michelle, pretty please i have never asked you for anything. you have to think it over. the country needs you. i need you. [laughter] i used to think congress was a place you could sit with sophisticated people like walter pigeon the senate majority leader and the sophisticated old money people like martin chase but today it's feeding time at the zoo.

it's very different. people asked me about the old days and i think back to the 1990s when we had nice guys like newt gingrich running the place. newt gingrich was a guy who carried his own china shop. he was a bull who carried his own china shop front of him but luckily he had a matador. i will never forget how we made him sit in the back of air force one. that is nothing compared to j. pierre today we have hannibal lecter as the republican senate leader and he wants to e obama for breakfast. in the white house with a guy doing greta garbo, i want to be left alone. today, we have nothing but endless fights over taxes and spending and government shutdowns and sequestration's and the inevitable filibuster. debates about the filibuster believe it or not there was a debate about whether to debate the filibuster. back in the 70s i worked for the senate budget committee for adamowski. and this is how times have

changed. the republicans and the democrats on the senate budget committee agreed on a budget together, a bipartisan budget. in fact in the 60s when we thought the vietnam war were fought against having the vietnam war even the antiwar resolutions were all bipartisan. the parties got together to fight the war. i don't know if anybody is as old as me here but we stepped the republican party in the northeast that had nelson rockefeller clifford case a liberal republican of the senate in -- new jersey. where are they? where the united states senate and 64 the passes the boards bill. catch the voter not changed a bit about for civil rights which opened up all the stuff that john lewis spot for all this was done by a vote of 73-27. the republican vote was 27-6. what do you think it would be today? a dramatic change. i know one thing in this last

election. what was the most popular picture in the newspapers in the last election and? was at the debates? was at the convention's? know, was the picture the republican governor of new jersey walking along the beach with the democratic president of the united states. that is what people want and that is what the people in this country are dying for. [applause] and i have like you a bookseller i have a lifesaver coming up this november. "tip and the gipper" about the working relationship of a conservative president ronald reagan at a very liberal speaker of the house tip o'neill. it's not despite all the talk you hear about a cartoon about two old irish guy sipping whiskey together. the last thing we need is an ethnic -- etc. story of two professionals who knew their job was to do a job not to screw the country up

with government shutdowns and filibusters and the rest of the mickey mouse stuff with today. i had an inside track on all of this. the look says people want to see a work again and see government perform again. don't expect it to be all schmaltz although there are scenes in this book and i'm turning it in monday morning at 9:00. they are schmaltz in it and that you will not believe. my favorite is the two old irish guys in the hospital at george washington hospital and reagan is just barely live after being shot. the bullet got right into his heart and he lost half of his blood. it was worse than most people know and hear these two old guys tip tip o'neill next to the president's ernie kissing him on the forehead and then they recited the 23rd psalm together. it was a little different than today. there are other great scenes parties together toasting each other. the most important thing is they disagreed 180 but they got things done and it worked and i think this book is well timed

because nothing is working right now. i am in the company as you can see of greats and i want to begin by introducing the first of the great authors here today helen fielding. by the way that is a good name for a novelist, isn't it? she started with the newspaper column in the independent in london about preoccupation of a the single woman in her 30s a single woman named helen fielding. it was there she created "bridget jones" a 30-something londoner worried hour-by-hour but her career and her tobacco and alcohol intake and her love life and some other stuff i can't talk about. either that came the novel bridget johnson out of that came the movie and the big question hugh grant or colin firth? out of that came a 70 million-dollar gross and and may not have the order exactly right came a second novel and another film with a gross of three and a half times the first gross. let me introduce you to the author of the new "bridget

jones"'s that are so vital people have as much fun reading this book as i'm writing it, ms. helen fielding. [applause] >> thank you, chris. it's a great honor to be here in such elevated company. it is also a relief to see so many people here. i never quite got over my first time when i spoke about a book where two people turned up and one of them was someone i used to go out with at school who took me out for lunch and told me that he was. so this is already much better. [laughter] yeah, it is. that is quite a surprise actually to be talking about

"bridget jones." i have been frankly out of state for several months typing away at my laptop. i never actually thought i would write another one. one particular start as chris said it was a column in the newspaper. they asked me to write about myself when i said no that is so embarrassing. then of course it couldn't be more exposing an embarrassing in a way because everyone continued to think that rich it was me. the whole thing was a huge surprise i think too everybody that it sold so well and turned into movies and so on. i sort of after that lost my voice a bit and i didn't want to just churn out another one and become sort of the parody of

myself. and then last year i suddenly found i had been back for a while and i had a story and i have new things that i was finding funny. and it was quite organic really. i just started to write and didn't tell anybody that i was doing which made me feel unselfconscious like i did when i first began. and i've had a really good time writing it. there's a lot of things that didn't exist when i first wrote it, things like texting and twitter and internet dating and motherhood. not that it didn't exist but not for me. and i suppose what happens is that people tell me stories a lot. in some ways it's a bit like being the pope. girls or guys coming up to me and saying i am "bridget jones"

and i feel like saying bless you my child. [laughter] would you like to make your confession and? so i get all sorts of stories from people about for example internet dating. there was a girl at the beauty salon that i go to. first of all she she has eyes hg these problems and she had gone out on a date with someone. and he had made out with him a little bit in three days later got it la bove text from him saying that his wife had just had a little baby girl, six pounds 12 ounces. and she also got into a thing where she talked to her ex-on line and ate up a carrot from the internet dating site to make him jealous and then stood him up. she got the imaginary girl to stand him up and then the boyfriend puts up and noticed on

the internet dating site saying she is no longer available. she found herself terribly hurt but on behalf of the girl who she had made up the existence for anyway. [laughter] so it's quite complicated i think, people dating now. obviously i had to do a certain amount of research. i did go on to the native richard jones character on twitter but i just found to me it was a giant popularity contest. endlessly worrying about how many twitter followers who have got so like counting calories it is number of follow twitter is still not. i actually got blocked for checking my number of twitter followers 150 times in one hour. it's not really a good medium for me. but i think the thing about

bridget is it always seems quite light and funny but i think comedy always comes from a place of truth and they think with the first bridget there was quite a lot of it, a lot of pain behind it. i think you have to have some real clash of things going on to make things be funny. i never quite understood why it took off. i used to go all over the place talking to people. all the women were clamorous and they would say they identified to math. i think it was, it's about the gap between how you feel you are expected to be and how you actually are. i think so much in the modern world making you feel like you have to be that red carpet girl. even i today arrived with the

most enormous handbag just because i thought that was what you should do if you are in the public eye. i think they're somewhat airbrushing and all these things that make it very aware of the gap between how a woman should be in the public eye and how we all really are inside. i think with the new book, where is the first one is looking at that very thing, the woman in their 30s when they biological clock is ticking and dating becomes an absolute night mare and the men are sensing the insecurity. this is what it's like for older women and how you get grounded. i sort of imagined imagine when i got to my age i would have a tight perm and gray-haired and a shopping bag and actually the women i know you are are what we used to call middle-aged are not

really like that and life is still going on and is still going on. the book i suppose is a bit racy in places but one of the themes is about sort of rebranding the older woman and i think the title, mad about the boy, i don't know how that's going to be translated into other languages. i remember in italy the diary of richard jones became the diary of bridget's own -- bridget jones. [laughter] i was expired inspired by that, where the boy dives into the swimming pool trying to shrink his levi's and it's shrouded in mist rape. we we are trying to keep it a secret which frightens me because i'm sure one day i will

leave it in the back of a taxi and it will all be over. i think motherhood is another big subject that i uncover. i think most women today understand and in fact men as well understand the problems. there is a story of the tabloids recently about david cameron, now prime minister, driving along with his kids in the back of the car and the prime minister called up and he ended up saying what you shut up i'm on the phone to the israeli prime minister. [laughter] that is something with that i identify with. that sort of thing with chaos going on all around you and you try to pretend you are in some penthouse office with a view over london and taking calls from important people and the juggling of the two worlds is quite hard. i also think people basically have got too much to do now.

i don't know about you but my life is full of these crazy to-do list which don't really make any since when you read them and i'm not able to prioritize between the importance of things. so i sort of reply to the party invitation, finish novel, respond to apocalypse invitation, find keys, blow up bike. they are just sort of randomly spread all over the place. i think it's quite scary bringing up a new bridget. but i think it's very important for me anyway, it's very important to write it privately and write it from the heart. so i did sort of not right for a long time. i just sort of observed what was going on around me and what i

was doing and what my friends were doing. sorry about the grammar. grammar has not really been my strong point in bridget and that will continue as my editors know. but i have had a lot of fun writing it. i have really enjoyed it. and i'm hoping that the launch will be very lighthearted and not taking it too seriously. it is just a book. it's just a funny book. i never started out trying to write social commentary particularly. i was just writing a column about the little things that happen every day. really to make myself laugh and you know i never thought anyone would read it really. so, i hope that we will all have a lot of fun with the launch and you know just be yourselves and enjoy it.

i was going to go on a huge diet and have massive surgery before the launch so that no one would recognize me. but i enjoyed it very much and i hope you will too. thank you. [applause] >> thank you. u.s. congressman john lewis has been a resounding voice -- but that is bill clinton talking i'm sorry. congressman john lewis is a key figure the civil rights movement in his journey is taking them from an alabama sharecroppers farm to the halls of congress, from a segregated school to the 1963 march on washington and from receiving beatings from state troopers and others to receiving the medal of freedom from the first african-american president. mr. lewis' 1990 book walking with a wind of memoir the movement has been called the definitive account of the civil rights era. his new book is "march" book one

and features something all of us clearly would like, a blurb from bill clinton and i will redo that now. congressman john lewis is thinner sounding voice in the quest for a quality from her than 50 years and i'm so pleased he is sharing his memories of the civil rights movement with america's young leaders. in march -- "march" he brings a whole new generation with him to cross the edmund pettus bridge from me clenched fist into a future of outstretched hands. congressman john lewis. [applause] >> good morning. thank you, chris, my friend, my brother, for those kind words of introduction. i am delighted and very pleased to be here with these three

distinguished authors, great writers. now you heard chris tell you that i am the son of sharecroppers. i grew up in rural alabama, 50 miles from montgomery. by grew up on the farm and it was my responsibility to care for the chickens and i fell in love with racing chickens like no one else could raise chickens. i want tell you the whole story because it's too long to tell but from time to time as a boy who could gather a chickens together in the chicken yard. we would have church. the chickens along with my brothers and sisters and cousins would make up the audience, the congregation and i was preaching and when i look back on it some

of the chickens would shake their heads and some of the chickens would nod their heads but they never said a man. i'm convinced that some of those chickens that i preach to during the 40 -- 40s and 50's tended to listen to me much better than some of my colleagues listen to me today in congress. [applause] as a matter of fact some of those chickens were just a little more productive. at least they produced eggs. well, that story is one of the stories told in this book. some of you may be asking, john lewis, why are you charming to -- a book? how do you write a graphic novel? i decided to write a graphic novel because i have hope, hope that someday in the future some young girl or boy will pick it

up, read the words and see the picture and they will be inspired. i believe it is time to to a little more marching. i believe it is time for us to move our feet. dr. king once said there is nothing more powerful than the marching feet of a determined people. it is time for us to make some. it is time for us to march again. my mother and my father and my grandparents and great grandparents with tell me, why this? why that? why those signs that say white only, only, white men, men. because that's the way it is.

don't get in the way, don't get in trouble. this march led by martin luther king jr. that rosa parks got in when she took her seat on that bus. i was inspired to get in trouble, good trouble, necessary trouble. i want to inspire through this book "march" another generation of young men, young women, black, white, latino, asian-american, native american to march again for what is right and what is fair and what is just. some of you may not be old enough to remember that back in 1957 there was a little book, well most of you were not even born. you were not even a dream.

a little book was published called martin luther king jr. and the montgomery story. it told the story of the montgomery bus boycott, the story of rosa parks, the story of more than 50,000 people boycotting buses in 1955 and 56. and that vote, that little book was picked up by a young student in greensboro north carolina. he read the book and started sitting in the three other students and then we read the book in nashville tennessee and we started sitting in. this book has been translated, a little book that cost only 10 cents back in 1957. it's been translated into more

than four languages and it has inspired people in the middle east, in vietnam and especially in egypt. i want to see young people here in america feel the spirit of the 1960s and find a way to get in trouble, good trouble, necessary trouble. this book "march" also tells several other stories. one day we were sitting in nashville, a little group of us young black and white students on fisk university tennessee state vanderbilt university, and a young waitress came up and said, we don't serve -- do you know what i mean when i say it? one of the young people said we don't eat them.

[laughter] this book tells the story of how we studied the way of gandhi, studied the way of martin luther king jr., studied the way of civil disobedience. before we went on and he said then on the freedom ride, the march from selma to montgomery, the march on washington we prepared ourselves and many of us use the philosophy of nonviolence as a way of life, as a way of living. this book will come out in three volumes. it will be published on august 13. it is my hope that elementary school students, middle school, high school students, college parents, college students and parents will pick it up and read

it and pass it on. it is time for us to teach all of their people the way of love, the way of peace, the way of nonviolence, to have faith and never, ever give up or lose hope. read it. enjoy it. and walk with the wind and march again. thank you very much. [applause] [applause] [applause] see what an honor.

diana gabaldon like helen fielding comes to you today andrea bookstores with a giant built-in readership peter facebook page alone has 200,000 fans. this december she is coming out with "written in my own heart's blood" the latest volume in her outlander series. salon is is called the series the smartest historical sci-fi adventure romance story ever written. well, the "san francisco chronicle" my old newspaper said it's a large campus with paints filled with marvelous and fantastic adventures perfect escape reading or containing the outlander's guide to the author takes her character this time through revolutionary philadelphia as a new army sweeping through the city of the brewing violence exciting romance. ms. diana gabaldon. [applause]

>> thank you so much. thanks chris and it's a great privilege and honor to follow such talented speakers. i was looking out over the sea of faces and thinking this reminds me very much of one of my college classes. i used to be a university professor before he jumped the rails and began writing novels and one of the classes i taught was human anatomy and physiology. it was a big class and everybody took it as a popular elected because they thought it would be easy. including the football team. they would always sit in the front row when i came in. there would be 400 people and uchitel the football team because they were a sound asleep. these large inanimate lots of flash. i would walk up to the edge of the podium and say this morning gentlemen we are going to discuss the history of contraception and they would all start linking. in days of old when knights were bold and not invented they

wrapped old socks around there are -- and babies were prevented. [applause] it worked on the football team too. no one has ever fallen asleep in one of my classes. people always say to me how did you get from being a scientist to being a novelist? and i said easy, wrote a book. they don't make you get a license or anything. actually from the age of eight i was meant to be a novelist. i just didn't know how. it's not like being a cpa or lawyer where there is a career path marked out for you. anybody who writes books rolls their own and i had no idea have no idea how to do that at the age of eight. i also came from a very conservative family background. my father used to say to me such a poor judge of character so be sure you get a good education so you can support your children.

[laughter] so what is going on at home i thought perhaps i would not announce that i wanted to write novels and realizing this was if he financially so i went to science. i have amongst other things a ph.d. in quantitative behavioral ecology which is behavioral -- as a result of this i wrote a foreigner page dissertation entitled selection and opinion to -- or as my husband says wyatt birds build nests where they do and who cares anyway? [laughter] i tell you that to make the point that in fact i did know it did know how to write before i began writing a book. i knew one of the sentence from the other and where paragraphs happen and what they are for but i had never written a novel. i had written a lot of other things. i didn't marry a bomb. i married a very nice man.

i did quit work three months after first child was born in order to start his business and in terms of financial stability there is not much to choose between an entrepreneur and a bum. [laughter] i was their soul support for while until i took to freelance and i slid sideways and became an expert in scientific computation. it's really easy to be an expert if there are only six people in the world who do what you do and that was my position at the time. at the time when i decided i should write a novel i had just turned 35 and what i thought was mozart was dead at 36, maybe you had better get a move on here so i said all right. i will begin writing a novel just to find out what it takes to write a novel. to this point i had read a lot of everything and no one showed me how to write any of it including walt disney comic books. i read a couple and if they didn't look quite right i pumped it until it did. surely if the right one you will recognize it. i said okay what sort of novel

should i right? i thought maybe a mystery, maybe lots of mysteries. mysteries have plots, i'm not sure i can do that. it wasn't the easiest possible book i could write. i said well for me perhaps that would be a historical novel. i was a research professor and i knew my way round the library so it seemed easier to look things up than to make them up and if you have no imagination you can steal things from the historical record. so i was looking for a time and place in which to set this novel. i have no background in history to speak of just the six hours of western civilization they make you take as an undergrad. i was casting around in my mind and this whole frame of mind i happened to see -- on public television. seeing if any of you are familiar with dr. who. it's a really old long-running u.k. show originally done as a

children's fantasy show. it's now much more are adult and still running but the doctor is a time or from the planet who travels through space and time having adventures and along the way he picks up opinions from various history. in this old show he had picked up a young scotsman from 1745. this was an 18-year-old man and i said that's fetching. i found myself still thinking about this the next day and at church. [laughter] i said to myself if you're going to write a book it doesn't matter. the important thing is to pick a point to to get started. so i thought fine started the 18th century. i had no plot outline or characters nothing but the images conjured up by the notion of a man and a kilt which is a powerful and compelling image. a few years ago isix book was the lucky one for me.

it won me the international prize for friendship. i got to go to germany to accept it and while i was there is interviewed by everyone in the german press from the tabloid newspapers up to the equivalent of "vanity fair." after we got this i was going like this and i was interviewed by one of their literary journalists. he said i read your entire work and her amateur is tremendous in your characters are 3-d. i'm thinking yes, yes go on. instead he paused and he said i'm just wondering could you explain to me what is the appeal of a man in a kilt? [laughter] well he was a german you know. i was really tired. i looked at him for a minute trying to think what is the appeal of the man in a kilt and i said well i suppose it's the idea that you could be up against the wall with him in a minute. [laughter]

three weeks later i'm home again and i get to a pile of press clippings from his jaunt all in german which i do read but slowly. the publisher had put a note on the top one. she said i don't know what you told this man but i think he is in love with you. [laughter] as mr. matthews can no doubt tell you that you can do an interview in short. anyway, people do ask how did you get from science into being a novelist and i wrote a book by what they really mean is how did you get from being a scientist which is this cold logical tidy sterile sort of thing into being a novelist which is this marvelous creative touchy-feely sort of thing they think. in actuality they are the same thing. science and art are just too halves of the same coin in but they both rest on is the ability jude draw patterns out of chaos. you need to be able to look at

situations in then natural world and say i see something going on here and then you investigate further. when you do science essentially it's the art of asking questions. we call it a hypothesis just to be formal about it but the hypothesis is do birds build nests in the tops of trees rather than the bottoms of trees because they are afraid of ground predators. that would be a start and then he would say i think that's what's happening because after all these guys have the weasels after them and they would design an experiment to test that hypothesis and see where you got. you do the same thing in a novel. a the novel is postulating a question of some sort. you usually draw that question from something you see around you. in my case i drew it from a doctor who show. things happen in science. you may think you are headed in a certain direction in sedley something wonderful happens.

your study kind of goes this way and you redesign it and add another question and the essence of good science as it is good art is to ask questions not only to answer them but to cause the people following you to read everything and ask more questions. a good piece of art like a good piece of science should leave you with more questions that should answer enough of them as you were going along to make you turn the page and that is pretty much how it works. ..