the board the plane. including here, preparing for other major speech, got the teleprompter, the mock podium. the president would exercise on air force one, hold meetings, it never got old and i felt very blessed to see the world aboard that plane. >> host: here's a photo. january of 2009. >> guest: the five presidents in the oval office. this is after the election, so president obama hadn't been sworn in yet and there is a meeting in the oval office and a lunch with the five presidents,

definitely a rare opportunity to see a lot of history all in one room. >> host: never counted how many were in the same room? >> guest: no. i would like to know that. very special. >> host: back to george h. w. and barbara bush, one of barbara bush with her camera. >> guest: a really good spot where she would photograph me with president george h. w. bush and president george w. bush and send me the photo in record time. she was amazing. and this was election evening, 2004, very late at night. might have been early in the

morning and we had just learned that president bush was ahead mathematically to win the election and so the family decided it was time to celebrate. >> host: how often were you alone with the family, just you and george bush family? >> a lot. especially family gatherings, holidays, every christmas i was invited to camp david to photograph the family, the best thing was my wife was with me at the same time so she could be with me and i could enjoy the holidays with her and i would photograph the family around christmas time. there's always a huge family portrait which was important to get everyone together in one shot. >> host: unlike herding cats. >> yes because the bush family

is large and like any family they were very busy doing things like waiting for a photo. >> host: here you are easter in crawford, texas. >> guest: i tried to document family life which meant -- family was very important to president bush, to be together for these special holidays and it also meant my holiday was spent at the ranch or camp david and actually i enjoyed that. my wife would also be invited to fly on air force one which was the nice perk. one of the -- keep the family together if there was an opportunity. >> host: did your wife get to

know the bushes as well? >> guest: yes. of >> host: you agree with him politically? >> guest: everyone agrees with everyone politically to be honest i don't -- for most things i did. >> host: january 20th, 2009. >> guest: this moment i had been waiting for for years. i was there when the president walked through the oval office boards for the first time and i wanted to be there the last time walking out the same door. there i was that morning at 8:00. i always envisioned what that moment would be like. i thought it would be people crying and hugging, reminiscing, it was very simple. very anti climatic. the president turned around, walked out, didn't look back,

very simple. >> host: the book is called front row seat, photographer and daughters eric draper who spent eight years as president george j.w. bush's photographer. watching the tv on c-span2. you're watching booktv on c-span2. >> host: is there a nonfiction author or boat you like to see the john booktv, send us an e-mail at booktv@c-span.org or tweet us at twitter.com/booktv. >> booktv continues with ann kirschner. miss kirschner 11 recounts the life of josephine marcus earp, common-law wife and partner of over 50 years to lawmen wyatt earp. this is about an hour. [applause] >> pleasure to be here. this is a stories at has deep

roots all across the united states, it is fun to be here. the fact that both of my books have seattle, seattle exhibits this week is particularly fun. what i would like to do is introduce the book by reading the first couple pages from the prologue in which i land on planet earth. did you know that wyatt earp was buried at a jewish cemetery? just hearing his name through me back to my childhood that jackson heights, new york city, scrawled on the floor in front of a black-and-white television watching westerns with my big brother joey dressed up in his special shirt with a trim and snazzy buttons and black cowboy hat and shiny buttons and a leather holster slung around his hips. we pretended to walk the streets of tombstone every week with

millions of americans young and old. joey was my hero and marshall earp was his, brave, courageous, bold and jewish. jewish? that is how it all started. and innocent question from a friend who thought correctly i would be intrigued by the incongruity between anything jewish and anything tombstone. this first burst of curiosity about wyatt earp's final resting place that religion was satisfied. i soon learned wyatt, the only man emerged unscathed from the gunfight at the o.k. corral was not jewish but had lived with a jewish woman for nearly 50 years and she buried him next to her parents and brother in a family plot at the synagogue affiliated hills of the eternity cemetery outside san francisco. that was my introduction to mrs. earp. as children when wyatt earp ruled the airwaves we didn't know he had a wife, certainly

not a jewish wife, i was a jew from new york so each revelation about a woman named josephine markets evokes new images that made me smile especially the thought of wyatt earp going home for soon after a tough day fighting for justice in tombstone, arizona. quickly became interested in mrs. earp more than her famous husband. contradictions piled up like a freeway collision. how had a beautiful girl from san francisco in new york and russia ended up in tombstone and the rest of her immigrant family climbed out of poverty into. what respectability, why had josephine run away? what inspired five decades of the venture seeking that tucker from the arizona territory to california, nevada, alaska, and finally hollywood? that is how the book begins.

now all you have the headline, writer discovers wyatt earp is buried in a jewish cemetery which sounds like a parody of something you would read in the onion more than something real. betsy if i have my clicker here. there is my brother joey. on the little finger in the crib. isn't it? that was a true story but when i came to this as an adult what really fascinated me was the early books about wyatt never mentioned there had been any mrs. earp. if you read the early western books is is if there were no women at all, now mothers or wives or daughters and we didn't

hear anything about them. imagine if you were to write a biography of ronald reagan without ever mentioning nancy or bill clinton without hillary, just to cover both sides of the aisle. this struck me as pretty amazing and it is what led me to -- i will eventually figure this out, to the real mrs. earp. okay. no. no. . i may need somebody to click for me. collector. i actually heard in the early days of television, bill had someone come and visit him, someone needs to change the channel and someone said don't you have a remote control?

sure i do. george! george came and changed the channel. could you teach me how? is really elliott. what am i doing wrong? can you get it? it is not just me. i am usually pretty good with technology. so i will keep going. i will start by telling you a little bit about her family in the united states. joseph king's parents emigrated from prussia around 1850 and this is the pretty familiar story of jewish immigration. for the rest of her life josephine would say her family was a german, not prussian and that is a very important distinction. prussia is now poland and did it really matter? it didn't really matter said the german jews tended to be more affluent, better educated, less

religious. depression jews, eastern european jews were much more religious, less affluent and spoke yiddish rather than polish, rather than german. it is an important distinction. oh there we go. there is a circle around the place her family was from and coincidentally right below that especially where my mother was from even though i thought i had strayed so far from the story of my mother when i did to into the american frontier, i really wasn't that far away. so this is a picture of steamers are arriving in san francisco and that is how josephine's family arrived around 1870. they spend ten years, a little bit more in new york. they have been in new york during the civil war but the family had not succeeded financially.

if you were in new york during those years you would be reading in the newspapers constantly about the wonders of san francisco. come to san francisco, everything is terrific sola marcus family was doing well on the lower east side of new york decided they would take a second immigration hot and went from new york and traveled down south, wind through the isthmus of panama and by steamer up to san francisco. when they arrived at san francisco the san francisco of that time was in fact the growing thriving communities that they had thought it would be but like new york it was a highly stratified jewish society where the german jews were the upper class and everyone else, especially the polish jews were at the bottom. this fellow you see here was isaac benjamin.

a loss of what i eventually came to understand as josephine's motivation for leaving san francisco was seeing the german jewish divide through his eyes. he had lived in the united states for three years and observe remarkable in tolerance from the german jewish community to the other parts of the jewish community and in that divide, between the german jews and non german jews to me lies the secret of josephine's first running away from home. she was a teenager, didn't want to be second class, was a party girl, she was pretty, outgoing, vivacious, and the thought that because of her family's origins and the way they spoke that somehow she wouldn't go to the right schools for the right parties that seemed outrageous to her. likable very thin josephine lit

out for the territory, when she ran away from home she was 18 years old. she ran away to julian an acting troupe, the praise was sweeping the united states, hard to explain how important this was at the time, but when gilbert and sullivan first wrote hms pinafore and came to the united states every tell had a pinafore true, there was enough for performed in german and italian and every language you could think of and so desperate for actors that they went right into the local, the local amateur schools, and took actors right out of them including someone like josephine who was an enormously talented but could ask the pipe. josephine went off to join the hms pinafore truth that was going to go to the arizona

territory. iran away from home, she did not tell her mother and father that she was going and when she got there, things were not quite what she thought they were going to be but she caught the eye of the dapper man quite a bit older than she was, johnny b. and - e --behan who was an up-and-coming politician and he didn't tell her that he was divorced, it was a nasty ugly public divorce and he had been consorting with prostitutes and he had a young son he was taking care of. didn't tell her any of that. the just said mary me and come to tombstone which was a bustling mining town, and be my wife. josephine, you should have known better. you all know better, right? oh look at that. i wish i could -- i know i am going to cover up very quickly.

i can't tell you exactly what does the team looked like as a young woman because there are no authenticated pictures. these two that i am showing you i can't say for sure if they are josephine and there are many circulating on the web that i cannot tell you are definitely not josephine. the pictures along the bottom here, josephine in later life and those i am sure our her and with the help of a professor at john jay at the city university of new york, we had done a regression analysis using forensic arts techniques to try and tease out what josephine might actually have looked like, all the pictures along the top have been put forth as possible pictures of josephine. if you are extremely interested in the art of forensic analysis connaught i have a great interview up with professor kerry lane on my website, lady

-- "lady at the o.k. corral".com. i show you these only to say we don't know exactly what she looked like but we do know that she was beautiful and buxom, actually in later life someone said about her that her boobs entered the room before she did. she wanted the they she went to tombstone to hook up with johnny behan. he arrived by stagecoach in 1880 and tombstone was a bustling mining town bigger than tucson, bigger than phoenix. you could drink champagne, you could eat oysters, it was a pretty amazing place. wyatt earp and his brothers and their common law wives were already settled their. they had arrived the year before. the picture on the bottom right is johnny behan and there is the amazing wyatt earp in the middle and i will tell you about the

woman on the left in a minute. so johnnie behan when josephine arrived at won a very important election. he was the first sheriff of the county and who was the person that johnnie behan beat out? that was wyatt earp. they were political rivals from the very beginning and when josephine arrived in town johnny liked her well enough's but he already had this one disastrous marriage and he was not eager to marry again and so he let her think that she was going to be mrs. behan and let her take care of his young son that he had no interest in marion her. not to mention the fact that his favorite prostitute was back in town. so josephine who hadn't understood this all before did figure it out when she was in tombstone and she left him. that is the first story that

josephine did not want you to know, that she had been in tombstone living as mrs. behan. the other thing she didn't want you to know had to do with the woman on the left-hand side. that is many blaylock earp who was living as the common law wife of wyatt earp. they had been together 17 years. so now you have the cast of characters. tombstone was a town very much on edge in 1881, there had been a series of robberies, there was an indian uprising, it was a hot, hot summer, temperature hot and hot also in the sense of political intrigues and rivalries. fox and ms nbc had nothing on the two rival newspapers in tombstone which were maniacally against each other. the deepest rivalry was between

wyatt and johnny behan. johnny behan had the job that wyatt wanted, he was the county sheriff which was an extremely lucrative job, the tax collector came with being sheriff and wyatt had the woman that johnny wanted because even though josephine had already left him that didn't mean he wanted wyatt to have her. so when we think about the gunfight at the o.k. corral there are deep political and economic and social reasons leading up to the gun fight. there were republicans against democrats, the lawmen and the mining interests against the cowboys and the rangers. that is all true but what is also true is that josephine marcus had a lover on both sides because wyatt was on one side and johnny behan was on the other. this was also a love triangle. i don't imagine any of you have

seen any of the movie's about tombstone? i guess you have probably seen one or two so you know that on october 26, 1881, tombstone erecting a hail of bullets in the middle of the day. the gunfight at the ok corral is the most famous gunfight in american history, just for a of an odd distinction. i have vote google others on the ok corral and there's not a single day that goes by that there is some reference to the o.k. corral and sometimes it is as predictable as yesterday's vote on gun-control, sometimes it is the ok corral used as the metaphor for confrontation began in be a game, teacher's union fight back, wall street scandal, it is the metaphor that is deep in the american psyche. if you go to a tombstone today and see any of it, rather cheesy

re-enactments, you see what a small place it really was and how shocking it must have been for the gun fight to happen in the middle of the day. so after the gunfight, which resulted in three of the cowboys being killed opinion was sharply divided as to whether wyatt and his brothers and doc holliday were innocent or guilty. there was a tremendous amount of legal maneuvering. wyatt was illegally acquitted but the story didn't end there because the cowboys sought revenge. one of wyatt's brothers, virgil, was shot and maimed. another of his brothers, morgan, was shot dead in front of wyatt's eyes, johnny behan was trying to arrest wyatt but wyatt earp decided he had had enough of the law. from then on wyatt earp was about justice rather than law and he embarked on what has been

described as a homicidal rage, otherwise known as a vendetta arrived in which he sought revenge against the people who had shot his brothers. what was he going to do about the women? so maddie earp has been living with him for several years and before wyatt goes off on his vendetta ride he sends maddie home to his parents. this was the most cowardly thing that wyatt earp ever did. he sent her off without a word of good bye, presumably said he would be picking her up, but he never saw her again. josephine went home to her parents, so you have these two women waiting for wyatt. he never saw maddie but he came back after the vendetta ride to pick up josephine. i always think about that scene,

henry and sophia marcus, an immigrant family meeting wyatt earp and trying to figure out what josephine is thinking go of. what wyatt did have going for him was he was and commonly handsome and charismatic. what a remarkable couple they must have appeared to be, josephine's parents did not lock the door and did not let her out, not that it would have made any difference because the keystone of josephine's character was this spirit of adventure, this sense of romance so before her parents knew what was happening she was out the door. so the gun fight was only a tiny piece of wyatt and josephine's life. they were together for the next almost 50 years. they never married as far as i can tell.

maddie blaylock died in 1888 and that story had a tragic ending because she figured out finally that wyatt earp was not coming back for her. how uncomfortable it must have been living with her source of in-laws. she was not a woman who had a particular education or training and so when she left his parents's house she had no particular means of support. she became a prostitute, she was a drug addict, she ended up committing suicide and cursed wyatt earp on her final day. this was the second part of what josephine most feared for the rest of her life. she didn't want anyone to know that wyatt had left maddie for josephine and that maddie had come to such a sad end. so they went on to this extraordinary life time of the ventures but josephine was

always hearing the footsteps of tombstone behind her. always fearing exposure. i did visit many of the places that they had been but with apologies to san diego and gold fields and various other places i confess as i followed josephine around, my favorite adventure was the three years that they spent between seattle and alaska and especially their adventures in nolan, alaska. one person. nome is almost as far north of seattle as seattle is west of new york. it is really way up there. no played an extraordinarily interesting part in the story of the alaska gold rush and seattle played as many of you probably know an important role in the

history of alaska so there were a number of cities vying to be the gateway to alaska, portland and tacoma, which was in the lead but seattle had a secret weapon and the secret weapon was a man named erastus greater. he was the marketing and public relations genius and he felt this was an incredibly important turning point from seattle and he was going to do everything he could to ensure that seattle appeared to be the gateway to alaska. one of the things he did was reach out to all the business people he could end the employees of those businesses to have the right to their hometown newspapers and say we have everything going on here about alaska. and they did and this was all unpaid media so it was part of what position alaska so very

well. but then by the time the klondike strikes were really maturing, 1897 or so, when the first big steamers come into seattle with tons of gold, by then seattle had plowed a tremendous amount of money back into infrastructure to build the ports and railroads and offices that would truly make seattle a center for alaska. so when you got off of the boat use of the fruits of braynard's work. seattle was gnome crazy. there was a cake known information center as soon as you got off the seniors, there were no underwear, nome tents, no medicine. my favorite was reads. did the fire face projector which promised whether your nose is long or short, why or narrow,

incline to the roman, the wearer can see, here, brief, sweat or expectorate just as well with it on or off. for three years, imagine a picture in the 0 original ad, for three years josephine spent her winters in seattle, and her summers in phnom. much of what she was doing was outfitting what would become wyatt's extremely successful saloon in alaska. summer of 1900, no was the center of the world and the best way to get there was from seattle so this is a big picture of the stampede along the seattle waterfront massing to get to phnom. wasn't only people but the halls of the ships that went were filled with tons of merchandise, whole cities that were collapsed

and then were intended to be reassembled once they got to nome. theaters that were struck down into little pieces, restaurants and hotels, a city in a box. the earps went in may of 1900, it was a little hard to get there, no natural porche in nome. you had to get on all these little boats and big paul bunyan kind of guys would come out and climb on the backs of these men and be carried out to the shore. so that is me in nome and what i am trying to show you is what was so unusual about the gold strike in nome was the gold was not under the ground as it usually is and requires the great deal of capital investment and equipment to find it, the

gold in nome was right on this end of the public beaches in nome so you could go out with a little pan and go like this and gold nuggets would appear. it was like magic and in the summer of 1900 this was absolutely the place to be. josephine was there with her niece. i recently got this picture from josephine's great great grandnephew and that is a picture of his grandmother, josephine's niece who was in nome the summary that she was there. josephine absolutely love the excitement of nome, she loved everything except the fact that wyatt earp was running the dexter with rooms upstairs for prostitutes, she didn't love that part, particularly. we know that because those are the stories that the niece brought home. regardless of whether she was

furious with wyatt or not they went to nome together and they came back from nome to get there and when they came back they were actually quite rich. a had taken the equivalent of $1 million, mostly not from gold, almost none of it was from gold. most of it was from what earp called mining and miners, that is saloonkeeping and prostitution. so in the years that followed they probably could have lived on their money from alaska for the rest of their lives if they were careful, but careful was not a word that was really in their vocabulary. suppose they invested in various things but they were not great investors. i don't really think josephine or wyatt really particularly care about money. they really cared much more about adventure and following their own inclinations. they spent most of their time in

at camp near what is now the town of earp, calif.. i was out there a couple months ago. it is quite unchanged from their time. very remote. was that funny? and the smell of creosotes in the air. it also speaks to the contradictions in josephine's character. there was a part of her the loved nice hotels and clean sheets and night clothes and jewelry but there was another part of her that loved living out in the desert and sleeping under the stars. she was not a particularly religious person. she had an indifferent attitude towards religion in general and judaism in particular. she was sort of a penzias so nature seemed to be the most important thing to her. they were quite happy in those years in the desert but josephine feared those footsteps

from tombstone because they were always writers who were interested in wyatt earp's story and what had happened to them at the gunfight at the o.k. corral. america was changing dramatically. all the things that had been legal in the frontier, gambling, prostitution, common-law marriage call all of these things that had once been quite acceptable were now downright illegal. prohibition was the law of the land so things were changing. our heroine and he rover getting a lot older. you can see in place of the beautiful, saucy adventuress josephine markets is this portly old lady. wyatt kept the other socratic look they always had.

everybody they had known in tombstone some of whom were respectable members of the community, and a very good friend of theirs. and up famous playwright and john clallam was the first postmaster, and bat masterson became a sports writer. those are well-established people. and the person who was the famous sports promoter of the time at madison square garden. wyatt and josephine did not change a whole lot but america changed tremendously around them. we had a couple of frontiers left, one of them was hollywood. the original sign was not hollywood but hollywoodland. this was a real estate

development when this picture was taken which was 1923 and josephine realized immediately as the person who was most involved in sculpting the wyatt earp legend, the advent of movies was going to be very important to them and many of the early hollywood films were what they called horse operas and the actors of the time were fascinated that many of the legends were still walking around and sell -- barn. i really like the next picture. i am going to ask for help. as i told you before, william hart was a very close friend of josephine's and wyatt's, as was

the king of the cowboys but josephine's problem was reporters, screen writers kept sniffing around tombstone and she didn't always like what they were saying. if they wrote something she didn't like, then she would call up the reporter and browbeat the reporter. if the reporter went ahead and printed what she didn't like then she would call the editor or she would call william randolph hearst and say your father was a good friend of wyatt earp's, how could you do that and demand a retraction. sometimes she would get it. said josephine had a very modern sense of celebrity. she wants to warm a movie set and demand that they stop production on a movie that she didn't like. i think josephine had a really well-developed sense of how you

tell a story. and the one she wanted to tell about wyatt was as she would put it a nice, clean story. she kept repeating that. a nice, clean store. you wanted you to think about wyatt earp as the guy with the white hat and forget all the other stories. the notorious gunslinger, put him away. when the bad news began piling up much faster than she could stop it, she met an enterprising press agent and a writer named stuart lake who had contacted them, wanted to write a biography of josephine earp and josephine agreed to do it and there was a lot of trouble with stewart but in the end e too agreed to play by josephine's rules and there is only one mention of josephine in the very famous 1929 biography of wyatt

earp called frontier marshal. it is us at the mention at the very end of the book, there is william s. hart, then you see tom mix, he was a cowboy. like reliving my life in slow-motion. tad will do it? and there is stewart right. so josephine found her calling. her calling was the making of a legend of wyatt earp. george bernard shaw has this famous saying, if you can't get rid of the skeletons in your closet you better make them down. that is really what josephine did. for a while those skeletons were dancing and all was well. wyatt earp died in 1929. he was 80 years old. he had allen lived pretty much

all of his peers and his funeral was covered as a national news event. there is william s. hart and tom mix again together with playwright william wilson meissner and some others. this is very much treated as the passing of the old west. it was the dark days of the depression by now. josephine had rigged -- pretty good deal from the lake biography and an oil well she and wyatt had signed over to her younger sister who was her best friends, then her sister died. wyatt had died, her sister died, the subsidy from the oil wells was taken away by her niece who decided she needed did go -- didn't need to share with her aunt and josephine was getting older, lonelier, stories about tombstone never ended, how was she going to protect the legend

of wyatt earp? a sudden new player enters the picture and that is lincoln ellsworth who was the american explorer of antarctica and he approached josephine with the idea of naming his boat which was going to go to antarctic after wyatt earp and he created a little shrine on the ship with eyeglasses that josephine gave him and a rifle. and all of these things and josephine thought this was a great idea but it is hard to imagine it is like naming the space shuttle after wyatt earp. i tracked the stories in the new york times, there were hundreds of them and basically wyatt earp's name was in the newspaper at least once a month for six years in the 1930s. said take a look at the front page of the new york times,

january 22nd, 1936. this is the same day edward h. is proclaimed the king of england and on the left-hand side is the story of lincoln ellsworth w had been lost at sea and he is aboard the motor ship the wyatt earp. so once again this polished up wyatt earp's reputation and, the greatest story of adventure in the united states in the 1930s. i think josephine was heartened and emboldened by the lincoln ellsworth sensation and thought maybe it was time to tell her story. she met some distant earp relatives. she is shown here with that family, this is josephine on the left, she lost a lot of weight and looks like an italian widow

with black-and-white here and when she would go out, when she was ready to go out she would say let me just polish up the old furniture and she would put on her powder. she was vein but self-deprecating at the same time so she moved in with them and worked on this biography and they really liked her a lot. and together they went back to tombstone. can you imagine? this is josephine's first trip back to tombstone since 1882. and they stopped on the way in the town near where there can had been which was renamed in honor of wyatt earp. the closer the family got to the real story, the more nervous josephine became. they really wanted to tell the truth. they bring to a lot of research on josephine's story in these two skeletons in josephine's closet, the fact that she had

been mrs. behan and the death of maddie earp weighed on her tremendously so she became more and more nervous and eventually put a stop to the project completely. .. life and her health and her

mind. once that subsidy stopped, she was poorer and poorer. any money that was from alaska was long gone. she took to stalking friend, including one of, one of the men who had been closest to wyatt and to her, a fellow named john flood. he used a back of a calendar to record her visits on sunday april 18th, 1943, when she put her fist through her screen door, tried to get back in. i will get back to you at you good and hard. so he kept track of her movements. september 19th, 1994, she dice. there is a tiny little article in the "los angeles times," widow of famed lawman wyatt earp is dead. she was peneyless. in fact she was in debt. william hart paid for her

funeral which a rabbi presided over. she was cremated as wyatt had been. she was burr i had by her nieces in that same cemetery outside of san francisco and she was buried next to her mother, her brother, her father and of course next to wyatt. so that's our story of this woman of the west. i had a tremendous amount of fun researching it and writing it and i hope you enjoy it too. to my mind there is no more american story than the story of the frontier and the gunfight and wyatt earp which sunk such deep roots into our american psyche. but you can't understand any of that without putting the women back in the picture. and to my mind there is no more interesting woman to put back in the picture than joe's feel --

josephine marcus earp. thanks very much for listening to her story and thank you, seattle. [applause] >> i just want to remind anyone if you have any questions you can come down to this mic so we can get it on the recording. we have roughly 20 minutes for questions. thank you. >> i think you wanted to come to the mic. >> yeah, if you have a question you can come to the microphone. thank you. >> hi. you said that the manuscript had been burned. she had burned it, and, you know, said it was terrible, but then you went on to say there was a copy of it in dodge city archives? >> yes. >> i wondered how -- >> how could that be?

>> how could that be. >> yeah. >> the sisters who were working on it, had their own copies and so they burned one copy of it. but they had devoted years to this project. so they weren't going to give up on quite so easily. so they kept this other copy and at that's the one that's in dodge city. and they were, there were several other attempts to publish that because in 1955, when the television show came out, how many of you could sing the theme song? i won't make you sing it. brave, courageous and bold, right? when all the publicity came out about the television show, it eventually led to the nephew of maddie blalock earp remembering something about a relationship between his aunt and wyatt earp and that's when the story of mad

did i blalock came out. it didn't come out until 11 years after josephine died. the sisters who had written her memoir, who had worked on that memoir with josephine were not surprised. they always suspect ad story about that. that is why josephine was so nervous. if it weren't for the two sisters we wouldn't know half of what we did because we really needed josephine's memoir and their research to really put it together. any other questions? >> i was just curious, has your book been optioned? >> no. you know anybody? [laughter] you know, there have been so many, so many books about, about, so many movies about

tombstone. none of the films really do justice to josephine at all. there is the dana delaney character in one of the films and, you know, none of them bear any resemblance to the truth. there is terrible, embarrassing tv movie with marie osmond, i swear, it is really, i wish it had never happened. so, you know the book, this book is just out six weeks. so who knows what the future will hold. i certainly would like to see, i'd like to see the full story told. in particular, i'm deeply interested in that alaska part of their life which i think is so unusual. you know, that nome1900 was such an important place in the world, is hard for us to imagine but it really was.

>> so, do you think that josephine is part of the reason for the ok corral? >> absolutely. >> so there was arrive valerie between the two men for her? >> it was a tremendous rivalry between the two men. i wouldn't say it is the only reason, but i think it is part of the picture. i don't see how you can talk about the relationship between wyatt earp and john behan without mentioning they were both romantically involved with same, the same woman. no one in tombstone really knew about it. it wasn't an era in which that sort of gossip would make it to the newspapers. they were much more interested in political things. unless you were a famous person. they didn't write about affairs. so, so it shouldn't surprise us that it didn't come out in the up questions or in any of the --

inquest or any of the news reports. but it is indisputable she was living in tombstone as mrs. behan and it is indisputable that she spent the rest of her life with man who would become the most, you know, well-known lawman in american history. so, i think you got to put that together to say something happened in tombstone. i actually, you know, a lot of the people who work on wyatt earp history and tombstone history are male, which probably won't surprise any of you. and sometimes this led to really funny discussions like, one fellow who is actually very helpful to me who assured me knew what wyatt earp was doing every single day in the fall of 1881 around the time of the gunfight and he couldn't possibly have had time for an affair. i think the woman are laughing harder than the men. that is just the most ridiculous

thing i ever heard. as if he had to put it in his calendar, oh, yeah, have affair with josephine. i think the two enterprising, lusting young people could manage to find a place in the city of tombstone to, to have a romantic interlude, and the time, so. >> [inaudible] >> one more? >> so you mentioned nothing about children. was there anything in the memoirs about choices or? >> yes. josephine had, at least one, probably two miscarriages. they loved children. they were very close to wyatt's family and some of the young, the young children there. and josephine was very close to

her nieces. even though she had runaway from home she remained close to her family for the rest of her life and they loved little kid. so i think they would have had children had they been able to. not, theybl to.r reason they so it is interesting, all of, of wyatt's brother, i think only his half-brother newton had children. the rest of the brothers did not. virgil actually had a child, he didn't know he had a child. it was before he went off to the civil war. he later was put in contact with her and that's the only exception. the rest of them did not have children. so it was, it was at one time, a very, a very large family the earp family but that one part of it, from wyatt earp's parents really died out almost completely.

thank you very much. [applause] >> for more information visit the author's website, kirschner.org. >> what are you raiding this summer? booktv wants to know. >> hi, i'm robert costa, the washington editor of "national review." i have a lot of books i want to read this summer but as a political journalist i'm looking ahead to the 2016 presidential race, looking for candidates who will probably run especially on the republican side. one. people i'm looking at is. >> chris: ty. i picked up a new book, ." >> chris: ty, the inside story of his rice to power." this is fun read and takes you to his

political sense in new jersey. before he became a u.s. attorney. he was morris county freeholder. he was involved in a lot of county politics. takes us behind the politician on the magazine covers with president obama in new jersey. it asks who it. >> chris: ty. second book is kevin d williams. the end is near and it is going to be awesome. how going broke will left america richer, happier and nor secure. the fiscal cliff, earlier in 2013 was a big story. we covered at "national review." later this year you will have the debt limit be a story that consumes congress. kevin williamson looks at the debt from political perspective,

historical perspective. how it takes up a lost congress's time. could potentially ruin the country and make the country go broke. he does it with wit and some fun. the end is near is a great book by kevin williamson. third on my list is "this town. by mark libovich. who is leaking to who, power struggles not only in congress but media. mark has the ear of the beltway crowd. he is coming out with a book in july. "this town" is all about the inside scene in due point circle, bethesda, famous georgetown salons that give us story and washington political media establishment is all about. for fun a book i'm looking forward to read something "mickey and willie." mantle and mays. from one of my favorite sportswriters alan barra.

i was down in arizona watching my cleveland indians and chicago cubs. i ran into willie mays who is getting up there in age. it looks at willie mantle came of age at same time and became stars. formed a lifelong friendship. i something i never knew. i think that will be a great book for baseball fans this summer that is my list. looking forward to reading them you will. >> let us know what you're reading this summer. tweet us at booktv. post us on our facebook page or send us an e-mail at booktv@cspan.org. >> what are you reading this summer. many booktv wants to know. >> there are three beeks i'm going to read this year. the first is, "community project." it's a novel about a philanthropist -- in order to bribe people to covert just things. i think it could be a good read. another book is adventures of

the alley ministry canal by mary roache. how eating works. the american way of eating. i'm looking forward to reading about a different part of the culinary experience. and the last book on my list, thinking in numbers. life, love, meaning and math. and this book takes 21 essays looking at every day things in life and how math influences them. there are a bunch of numbers. they're looking for something putting this and math together. >> let us know what you're reading this summer. tweet as you at booktv. post it on our facebook page or send us an e-mail at booktv@cspan.org. now on "book tv," anchee min talks about the follow-up to her best-selling memoir, red azalea. in the her new book "the cooked seed." she discusses what her