government, legislation, how does a legislature oversee the executive branch, international criminal law, security, how do we protect ourselves, for security, by a security weapons proliferation. a m. luckey i of a parallel life of academia and government. right out of law school i worked at the department of treasury for a couple of years. the part of the enforcement issues of national security and intelligence and law-enforcement. i had a chance to help the undersecretary manage these programs to look get illicit financial activity and later after i had been outside, i went back and worked with the obama abided transition been working on immigration

and border related issues. with a series of issues just his policies and regulatory policies i deal with the issues in the book in the preface deals with i was in a meeting when representatives talk about how they were responding to vh-1 and one virus and it struck me that they'd make these decisions to help the agencies with their jobs but we don't talk about what does it mean for the country? >>host: here is the book. mariano-florentino cuellar professor of political science at stanford. >>guest: professor of law. >>host: at stanford. "governing security" is the name of the book. the hidden origins of american security agencies" booktv is on vacation at

palo alto california. >>host: we want to introduce you to stanford professor william damon sr. professor. what the teacher at stanford? >> human development we call it from birth to death everything from old age but my special interest is character development. to develop their values and purpose is life.

the real focus the adolescent and adult years or even how they could help to create a good direction for themselves to take them through life. >>host: and that ties into your newest book "failing liberty 101" how we are leaving young americans unprepared for citizenship in a free society." in here you write the most serious thing that americans now face great then terrorism that our future will not end up in the heads of the citizenry capable to sustain liberty that is been our most precious right. >> in the future you talk about the young people because they will inherit the society and we have a democracy a tremendous blessing it does not run itself and has to be managed

by people who were understand the rules of the game who value and appreciate it if you fail to transmit the appreciation of how important liberty and democracy are and the knowledge about of how networks, how they can participate in constructive ways, if you fail to do that i think the democracy itself is in danger in the more than any foreign country could place us because with terms of military the economy but we will never survive for thrive if the younger people who inherit it don't appreciate were value or understand how they participate in a constructive manner. >>host: why aren't the younger people appreciating

like in the past, in your view? >>guest: is not there fault but the adult generation that has the responsibility of educating young people with a history of the country and not just knowledge. that is important in the standard edition and the constitution but we are failing to do a good job on that of all subjects students are tested in which matt is not a strong suit, a history is the worst they know less about history or civics and in the subject matter. but even beyond knowledge knowledge, there is the emotional sense of detachment that is really important if you want to encourage young people to dedicate themselves with the sacrifice that people need to make to promote the

welfare of the entire country. it doesn't happen by itself. in order for them to development that attachment and appreciation, they need to understand how many people sacrifice for over freedom and what it takes to keep laverty going. it doesn't just happen by itself but requires a commitment of the institution and the value that our founders, back in the days of ben franklin gave to us. >>host: what are some of those? >>guest: beyond it is not just all about me. you are in it. is brodeur recall the national good or a national purpose especially in times of crisis.

the economic crisis if the country is attacked it is important to rally behind the country to gather together to make the sacrifices we have seen this starkly as recently as world war ii for example, and in order for people to make those sacrifices, they have to value the national good and the sense called patriotism and dedication and patriotism is not in favor at the current time its educational circles there are few efforts to promote a sense of love for the country. >>host: is teaching civics gone? >>guest: it is not gone

but marginalize. for those to make policy and national leaders in the department of education, the business community all of these people in a well intentioned way are promoting the goals of success and the sense of confidence of the stem subjects so our students can compete with people from other countries. that is fine of academic excellence -- excellence but people look for a system of testing students with the

student a and the teacher that it has monopolized the agenda in most of the public schools that civics, a history in the subject matter that leads of good citizens have been marginalized taught in a boring way that doesn't foster the appreciation at the heart of the american tradition. >>host: you also say it is one of the problems that we have. >> take a concept important to the country. the idea of the american dream not only people who are born here but immigrants all of the world who aspire to be americans they aspire

this is the place that has to do with freedom to follow your conscience, to choose your own path in the american dream has been constantly disparaged with education. it is the interesting exercise to google the phrase the american dream and what you come up with is literally cut volume not exaggerating but millions most of which say the american dream is just beginning or it is dead for the bid vitiating american dream it is the subtitle because the word is out in the public discourse in intellectual circles and transmitted into social studies class is that no

longer do we have opportunity in the country so the american dream is dead. that is so misleading for young people. that is one of the things that has led to the crisis of faith because first of all,, a couple of points that are important to make cover the american dream was never supposed to be about just material accomplishments. accumulating a number of bmw's or get rich because you invented a better mousetrap which is the way a lot of people write about it but the tenacity to follow your dreams and achieve your destiny as you see fit and nobody says you have to fit into this lot and part of that of course, is the

ability to provide for yourself and your family with economic opportunity but the the young people the message it is all over with no chance to succeed is nothing more than a self-fulfilling prophecy the surest way to get them to think it is not worth trying and on the individual level there are plenty of opportunities and the groups that the american dream is still alive and well are the american -- a bigger groups we interviewed a lot of first generation and they sound incredibly idealistic and say things i am so happy to be here. we can do exactly what our conscience tell us to

do, following our dreams cover these kids really get it. in the message to other kids are getting from schooling and the media is i think the element of despair in their lives lee b. into a loss of faith. >>host: you tell a story about to interview you did on npr. >>guest: it had to do with the incident that a parent was very upset about because her son had been taught there was this three week episode where someone was taking lunch money out of the knapsack and though woman that called the show said i got a call from the

teacher and it turns out it is my sign and i was horrified. i said we have to do something about this. we need to act on this in a serious way twice stealing is wrong in the teacher said i want to tell you mrs. jones, first of all, pleased to note speak to your son about and we're handling it in a professional way in the first rule of thumb is we don't call it stealing because we dylan to hurt his self-esteem to give him a label ; uncooperative behavior to not embarrass him too much so of cold mrs. jones called me and

said ever since i talk to that teacher he has blown off, he doesn't take it seriously and has and so again he has done something wrong. i use that as an example so to shy away from the moral language that doesn't mean this is a bad child. that would not be appropriate with the incident and the behavior was wrong and you need to learn to do better. when we remove the moral language from a child's life they want to live and develop virtue or character or a conscience which is the responsibility of every adult in our society even plato thousands of years ago said the first duty of every adult is to teach the young to find pleasure in the right things meaning the

moral things that if few shifts enjoy being generous and honest to live a life of virtue. and you should feel the barest if you did something dishonest. school is moving in the opposite direction and i have seen it. even with tea being especially. very few schools know how to handle it didn't want to embarrass the kid and it is the same story over and over. this is the real problem and to bring it back to "failing liberty 101" and benjamin franklin way back in the 1700's said very clearly a democracy requires a citizenry of virtue. it cannot be sustained.

you need to have every person independently want to do the right thing, the august and care about their fellow citizens, and be willing to sacrifice a and give something up for the sake of the greater good. >>host: professor william damon it is our guest. "failing liberty 101" how we are leaving young americans unprepared for citizenship in a free society" is the book. the rise of self absorption. >>guest: that is the downside. there are two when we miseducate the young people. what we have been talking about mostly is to have the citizenry to turn into something else but the

downside for the individual with the damage that is done it becomes a world of self absorption and there is an irony here that those who'd try really hard to become happy to accumulate and all the things that seem to make you happy, they turn out to make you miserable self absorption is not a good way to go through life you're always worried somebody will take something away from you. you worry about everything and do often despair is the key is meaningless so when we fail waiting for

something greater than yourself your family and friends but the nation not to take it apart. that is the mission of educators to introduce the lives of young people in to seeing as they can begin to commit and even sacrifice. ironically you give something up but you gave something a and satisfaction , a peace of mind or a resilience with a purpose in life. one of the mideast types of purposes that people develop , not only that they

have religious, a vocational, a family purposes everything but it is part of a full person. >>host: william damon says the greatest danger reface other than terrorism and not indicative of the citizenry capable to sustain liberty which is our most precious legacy. here is the cover of the book. "failing liberty 101" professor william damon at stanford. faq for being on booktv. >>guest: did you very much