the part of the story is what we are doing in the dynamics and very much looking for to people trashing this book because only then what i know that it is helpful in some way. thanks a lot. [applause] ..

>> set the mother remarried a few years later the new husband was not interested so we became wards of the state. >> host: how did you become involved? >> guest: i was interested in conjoined twins had the

blue reading a lot about them and 1987 in modern times now we think it is ancient but, as i read i if i may conclude it was bleeding to death was the problem and i was talking to a friend who was the chief of pediatric surgery and he had a lot of experience with hypothermic arrested had done a lot of research in which basically you cool the body temperature and pump the blood out in the heart stops and you can operate on a child up to an hour before you have to warm up the blood and i was thinking during the critical time during separation of you to go into hyperthermia

arresting get the vessels reconstructed maybe there would not bleed to death. then i said wait a minute. i will never see that but two months later here came the german doctors presenting the case to know if anybody had a solution because the mother was not willing to except the solution about was proposed in europe that was basically for her to choose the one she wanted in the other one to we knocked off. she loved them both. she just could not do that. so i started to explain the whole concept of using the very modern techniques to do cradle -- craniofacial surgery and hyper rest together and everybody said that sells like get my work

and the chief mark rogers at that time was really enthusiastic then restarted to pull together the team to talk about this. one of the great things about being at an institution like hopkins is you can draw on people from lots of different specialties tour all taught in their field and you sit down and talk but not only these positions but they paid to everybody we started to pull together teams and asking people how do you see this from your point of view? getting everybody's opinion even the engineers had we ensure we don't have a power failure? ahead to years of surgery played a psychiatrist with me to have me lay down on the couch and close my eyes and tell me what instruments i would need i would go through and she would write

it down to put together a manual she actually created accordions leave drapes to put over the bet so when the time came to pull the better part it would mean teams sterility so that level of detail. i give a lot of credit to the neurosurgeon the first to separate the twins like that but i could not have done it with all those people was a team effort and every betty's effort -- everybody's input and i have used those same principles. >> host: how many siamese twins had been separated and how long does the surgery take? >> guest: personally i have been involved with five

sets. then i have been as a consultant for a number of others in this country and elsewhere as well. they usually take very long periods of time. anywhere from 12 through 18 hours through a couple couple-- echoes on and on. but i think we are learning more about these kinds of things and there is so many wonderful techniques. i think within the next 20 years these separations will be possible with very good outcome in general. the other thing that is helping is it goes with the virtual reality and one set of twins in singapore the team that i worked with i worked with before while i was in the united states and

they were elsewhere but set of twins in south africa i have the vintage of using a virtual workbench at john hopkins we can take the cask and comment mri comment a angiogram and integrate them into a three-dimensional model to put on your 3d glasses and there it is in for interview. i could study the anatomy. unfortunately i could not take that with me to south africa but at least i had seen it like a cab driver in new york city if you have been there for awhile the least you have some impression of which way to go or which way not to go. there came a point during that surgery when the was almost impossible to decipher which vessels went into which twin and i could

think back on those three dimensional images and figure out what was going where which i don't think i could have done otherwise. it turns out that was the first case that was very type one vertical twins were both ended up neurologically intact. >> host: in that book you talk about being able to see in 3d. >> people see things in two dimensions people who see in three dimensions can keep relationships in their mind. for instance i am looking at you i am looking at the camera behind you and the bookcase and then if i close my eyes and spin around i in the three-dimensional thinker i can still imagine where you are where thee books

are in the telephone and that is very important if you operate on the substance like the brain that does not have a lot of visual landmarks then you have to utilize the things to tell you everything else is of our otherwise your patience come out looking like that. it is a very important feature for a neurosurgeon. >> host: 80 years old to things happened. your father and what you told your mother. >> guest: my parents were divorced i was eight years old that was absolutely devastating. yourself thrilled when your dad comes home and a belt that time i would run unloaded to the l.a. and looking down to see if he was coming and i would run

off to him. your dad just about always is your hero he with lettuce drive to and sit in his lap and steers the wheel and stuff like that it was cool and i love to play it was cool. when it came time for them to get divorced, i just could not understand and i wonder is it something that i did? i begs my mother to let him come back. she never bad mouth tim or never told us the reason until we were very old to understand but he was a big mistake had another family and when he married her she he was 28 she was 13.

and of course, that was extraordinarily difficult for her because now she had the responsibility to raise two young sons on her own inner-city detroit and inner-city boston. that was very difficult she only had a third grade education. she worked very hard as a domestic leaving at 5:00 in the murky -- warning not getting back before a midnight going from job to job. thin headed distain for welfare for whatever reason innocents she was very observant to notice that she notice nobody came off that went on it and did not like the idea to be dependent her whole life she thought she would work as hard and as long as she needed to and

somehow god would take care of her son was also a student but i just loved the whole concept of medicine. any time there was a story on television or radio about medicine i was right there i would love to hear the story. interestingly enough i even if internalized as a little kids i would work at johns hopkins. but i told the mother of wanted to be a doctor i said you think i can be a doctor? as she would always say, you can be anything you want to me you can be the best because you are a smart boy. it took a lot for her to say that because i was not manifesting the

characteristics of a smart student i told her everybody else that i was stupid except for my mother who was always telling me you are smart. you can do it. you can do a better than anybody else can. >> host: where did you go to medical school? >> guest: university of michigan. undergraduate i went to yale. it is interesting how all of that occurred with the southwestern high school inner-city detroit i did extremely well on the sats and i had very good grades but only had enough money to apply to one college. so i decided to apply to the one that won the

championship in the college bowl in jail one so i said okay. i will apply to yale. event fraught fortunately they accepted me with a scholarship saliva's thinking of was pretty tough you are good but i did horribly on the first set of comprehensive exams i mean really bad to the point i was sent to my counselor and he looked at my record he said that you seem like you are intelligent but there are a lot of things you could do outside of medicine and he tried to convince me to drop out of medical school was not cut out to be a doctor. need this to say, he said we king get you into another major in six weeks into would not have wasted a whole year in that seemed kind but i was devastated i

went back to my apartment and i prayed. help me i have always wanted to be a doctor. it does not look good for me. help me. adjusts started to think about my whole academic career and what kind of courses that he struggled or done well? i struggled in the courses that i listened to boring lectures but i did well in courses that they did a lot of reading the so now i was listening to boring lectures not getting anything at of it. i cannot afford a so i would skip the boring lectures to spend time reading. and the rest of medical school was a snap after that. seven years later when a wetback at the commencement speaker -- when i went to

back to the commencement. people were always looking for a reason why you can't rather than figure out why you can and that is why i enjoy my wife have spent so much time to encourage young people to read and excel academically and use their talents to help other people those make for great leaders in a great nation. >> host: in your book "the big picture" you talk about skipping 80 percent of your lectures in medical school. >> guest: absolutely. i don't want anybody listening to say dr. carson said nations give my a lectures. i am not saying that at all. i say everybody learns differently. with some people lectures are incredibly useful some people is a discourse in conversation and others it

is repetition. learn how you learn. >> host: dr. ben carson is our guest this month on booktv "in-depth" he is the author of five books. 1980 "gifted hands", 1996 "think big", a "the big picture", "take the risk" in the newest book "america the beautiful" 2011. dr. carson, how do you get from "gifted hands" to "america the beautiful" were you begin by asking a philosophical policy question whether or not we are still following the vision of the founding fathers? >> guest: a very good question. i never intended but after

the twin operation a lot of people wanted me to talk about the operation. if he then they wanted to hear about my background and people were flabbergasted it is interesting how all worked out because everybody gets their 15 minutes of fame but my first 15 minutes had to do with how to remove half the brain may second 50 minutes with your leader had to do with operating on the babies while still in the mother's womb. and then there is the third 50 minutes i said the media is not stupid. then they will want to look into my background. are you kidding me? end of course, that is what happened. then a lot of publishers

said you should write a book. i said i want to write a book. after about the tenth publisher i said i should write a book. so i wrote "gifted hands". i remember the initial publisher said this is agree autobiography. it will sell 14 or 15,000 copies which is great and it sold well over 1 million. then what about your philosophy? how did all of this happen? my philosophy is "think big." i wrote the book. i resisted any urges and appeals to right another book for a few years. but then i started to look around and i was noticing that people seem to get caught up in little stuff

and miss the big stuff and squabbling and using all their energy in the wrong places and i said i need to write another book. that was the impetus behind "the big picture." then a few years later there is something different going on in america. you go to the store and buy electronic equipment that may be cost $169 then they want to sell the warranty that cost another $150 over two years. does that make sense? if you put aside all the many you paid these warranties into a separate account you can replace anything that you would never buy. but we become so risk averse we easily fall prey to those that say this might happen.

but where they sell you wind insurance $25,000 a year in southern florida. think about it. if you take that to the $5,000 to plug it into an account in tenures it is $250,000 in debt probably won't that is amazing i am sure the insurance companies don't like me to say this but it is a reality they prey on people's fears and sometimes they live their life based on fear. that is what i wrote that book. the latest book "america the beautiful" and i should say the first four books were all written with professional code writers of latest book "america the beautiful" was written with my wife and the first one

that actually ever made it to number one with "the new york times" best seller list. i was becoming increasingly concerned but i have another grandchild of the way with three sons i started to worry about their future. but of it coming from a can-do society to what katy do for me society in hearing a lot of people say negative things about america how history is revised i said that they read a book about america which has been a very good nation to reach you give good perspective by the station came into being. and instead of rewriting

history let me put in a lot of quotations of those who are involved see you can determine by yourself what it meant. it was quite a and endeavor but if you look of the comments it has struck a chord. i'm actually working on another book right now called one nation. it is to help america realize we are not each other's enemies. we have allowed ourselves to we pawns in be manipulated by political factions in certain aspects of the media so we are at each other's throats all the time rather than working together to solve problems. there are those to enhance themselves ian their

positions by creating friction with their own little power base and we the american people have got to be able to see through that because a wise man once said a house divided against itself cannot stand. we need the leadership the brings people together to help create a vision. the book of proverbs first 29 without a vision the people perish. >> host: can you give an example of what you mean by being pawns? >> guest: a perfect example. there are a group of people who have come along ian said people beset there to tell you that you have to have voter identification a racist. they're trying to keep you from voting to get people excited out what is a non issue anywhere else

throughout the world i travel throughout the world. in every country i have gone had to prevent voter fraud they have a national identification it is not even an issue a and to be allowed to have yourself whipped into a frenzy that it is racist it is so totally absurd. i want people to really stop and think these things through rather than people to put that into a frenzy. >> host: in "america the beautiful" you write write, capitalism is a system that works extremely well. someone who was highly in-house motivated and energetic but it is not a great system for someone who was not interested in working hard or no need to contribute to the economic well-being. >> guest: exactly. it is self-explanatory.

in a capitalistic system you work, you heard, you benefit. and the socialist system you work if you want you don't work if you don't want but everybody can take care of you so one system is certainly good for people who are energized and ready to work and recognize those initially were the people who were drawn to america because england and other parts of europe people would frequently worked extremely hard to adjust for the government and they saw an opportunity where they could come here and use the save energy but it would accrue unto them an end to the families. you have been motivated individual coming over and they did work extraordinarily hard in created a lot of product and

another ship said i should get some of that i protective gear and you started the basis of the two-party movement at the time people said this is our stuff we worked for this we did the working and you don't get a. that is okay at the same time they were quick to add those very people that are motivated to came here into created wealth for themselves also were very generous to people live around them. they created all kinds of things that benefit it other people like factories, a charitable foundations, a textile mills, institutions

of higher education, taking care of people that could not take care of themselves themselves, we have always done that. i think we have a duty to do that. that is our responsibility. people say am i my brother's keeper? that is what keane said about able. yes. i say yes. and your brother is unable to take care of himself than you do have responsibility to do that we are human beings and we should have humanitarian qualities. all of us should and we always have in this country and it is a complete falsification for people to come along to say we have not done that with the most generation once dash generous nation in the role. >> host: in your book "think big" an acronym talent honest insight nice knowledge a book "in-depth" knowledge and god had you gotten in trouble for god?

>> certainly. a group of lawyers came to us to say you cannot put those banners up in the public school because the cheese stands for god. that stands in the violation of the first amendment i said excuse me? the first menaces there camino government suppression so we had a vigorous argument i suggested to we result at the level of the supreme court by new the next week would be going to the supreme court to receive the jefferson award and i figured i would ask and justice o'connor said they had no idea what the first amendment said and what separation of church and state and of course, that was not a violation. people he w

distorted there was never any intention you could not have god in your life. there is nothing that said you could not talk about god in public. it is the absurdity but that movement has beat the drums sova of the that many people, even in the legislature think it is true. . .

585-3881 if you live in the mountain or pacific time zone. if you can't get through on the phone line you can send dr. carson a tweet @booktv azar handle you can send an e-mail book tv@c-span.org or make a comment on our facebook page facebook/booktv. it's right at at the top at the notice for dr. carson. i want to start with an e-mail from pamela blande who is a doctor in the washington area. my name is dr. pamela blande. i'm a pediatric anesthesiologist at the walter reed national center in bethesda. my question is do you think you

have become more jaded warrants by year over the past two decades? the reason i'm asking this is that you have become over the years a lot more vocal on your stance on issues affecting the nation. >> guest: well, i don't think i am either of those things. i think i've become more concerned with what's going on and recognize that, you know, there is no purpose in curing the organism and then putting it back into the sick environment. people think the physicians should stick to madison. i don't generally hear people say that about race for some reason but i'm very quick to point out that the physicians signed the declaration of independence and were involved in the bill of rights and the u.s. constitution. there is absolutely no reason that we cannot think outside of the operating room or the

clinic. but in doing so and looking at what is going on, i have become extraordinarily concerned. and i think all citizens should be concerned. and, you know, our system of representation was a very good system the way that was put together. there was supposed to be representatives who were doctors, lawyers, businessmen, farmers, teachers come and drug store owners, what have you. why? because you want all the interest to be represented. and as we become more homogenous in the sense of having representatives who come from one group or another as opposed to everybody, we don't get the kind of representation that we need, and we also get a lot of representation of special-interest, way more than

we should come in and it has completely distorted the system of the values in the country. i'm almost to the point of saying that we ought to consider a constitutional convention. we talk about what's going on because it has been so distorted and there's been so many things that have changed. you'll get for instance federal court, judge appointments for a lifetime. when we put that in place, people lived on an average 47 years. that has changed pretty dramatically. should we look at that and will get things that have been affected by a drastic changes in the society and adjust accordingly? i think there is wisdom in doing that. >> host: what is your political future? >> guest: mauney political future is to continue to raise

these issues, to continue to talk. i have been flabbergasted as i travel around the country. i retire on july 1st, hasn't been much of a retirement because i've been in a different state every day but the enormous crowd, the great enthusiasm of people who resonate with common sense. and a lot of them tell me they thought they were the only ones that thought that way and they are so happy to hear somebody else thinks that way. here's the interesting thing. the progressive movement i think is very largely in sync with seóul berlinski and if he read his book would be a great thing to talk about some time. the number one goal, you get to the majority to believe that their opinion as the minority opinion, and yours is the

majority opinion and if you can correct the media and the press issue you can intimidate them into silence. what i would like to do is pole who the veil off of that and get people to be courageous again and be willing to stand up for what they believe and and not allow america to be changed without a discussion. you know, if we can have a good open discussion and not all the subterfuge and all of the people that are well informed about the idea say we don't want a country that is for and by the people, we want a country that is why the government and if that is what the majority of people decide i am willing to live with fat. what i do not want is all this devious stuff going on where we change the country without a discussion. >> host: lawrence, a dentist

in new york city. while much has been said regarding your political thoughts, i haven't heard much in the media regarding your decision to leave a stellar surgical career behind, which you just mentioned. unfortunately, she writes, i have seen too many of my colleagues at the peak of their career leave medicine as well fighting the impending changes of the affordable care act, he posts. >> guest: well, my decision to leave madison was in place long before the affordable care act actually came to be. and in fact, i stayed a few years longer than i intended to. someone told me that a neurosurgeon dies early. i don't believe at. [inaudible] i calculated the average age of death and it was 61, 61 now. i say you know what, maybe i should think about doing something else. but also, i became increasingly

concerned about what was going on, and i knew that i couldn't devote adequate time to it in an extremely busy surgical practice and then a couple that with the fact that we have brought in to the surgical department at times some incredible talented pediatric neurosurgeons. was a perfect time for me. >> host: well it was february, 2013 and you were on the national stage and we want to show the audience a little bit of a city of. what about our system packs so complex there's nobody that can comply with every job. if i want to get you i want to get you on the tax issue.

what we need to do is come up with something that is simple. when i pick up my bible, you know what i see? i see the terrorist individual in the din of first god and he's given us time. he didn't say if the cross failed don't give me any time. she didn't say -- there must be something inherently fair of the proportionality. you put in a billion, you make $10 to put in one of course you have to get rid of the loophole. [applause] some people say that isn't fair because it doesn't hurt the guy that made $10 billion -- where does it say you have to hurt the guy? he just put a billion dollars in the pot. [applause] it's that kind of thinking, it's that kind of thinking that has

resulted in the 602 banks in the cayman islands. that money needs to be back here creating the infrastructure and jobs. we are small enough, we are smart enough to figure out how to do that. >> host: dr. carson, where were you? >> guest: i was sort of in a zone at that time. some people say the president was just a few feet away from you. i wasn't really thinking about who was there. i was talking about what i deeply believe and the things that can still be of tremendous benefit to us as a nation. a taxation system as i said is as complex as ours is the precursor to the totalitarian society because if i don't like you, and you are a really good guy and i can't find anything i can always do that. i don't like that system.

we need to have something that is fair and simple. some people consider it fair to take from the rich and redistribute to the poor. on the surface that sounds pretty good. robin hood, a great. but the problem with that is where do you define rich and poor? everybody has different definitions of that. so it is better to do something where there isn't a lot of variation in the definition. that's where proportionality comes into play. that is why the typing system is so fair. you make very little, you pay very well. you make a lot, you pay a lot. the reason it doesn't seem fair is because we have all these loopholes and the ability to have a lot of money to buy expensive tax lawyers and accountants and to all of these manipulations and get out of paying taxes that is

unreasonable so you have to get rid of all of those loopholes. it's extremely predictable. you don't have people trying to escapes coming you don't have money offshore. you have it back here working where it should be working and i don't think that we would have nearly the problem that we have if we would do that. the other thing you have to remember is -- and texas adel i use the cut a billion dollars in and they put 1 dollar even though one put in a billion times more than the other, they have the same right. that, to me seems awfully fair. you take a system on the other hand where half the people don't even pay any income taxes but they get to have a say at how much they have paid that is fair. give me a break. we need to start thinking about things that work for everybody. and in the process of doing that, i think we will not have any limitation on the number of jobs that are created.

and in the opportunities that are provided. for someone that grew up in the very lowest rungs of society and socioeconomic status it's because we have a system that allowed that. they still do ought what is getting more difficult. i want to make sure it remains easy for people who are willing to work hard and do the right things to be successful in our society. >> host: what is the political reaction to the speech? >> guest: there were a lot of people who were shocked. and to me that is alarming that in america we are the land of freedom we would be shocked someone would say something the president may not agree with it. that tells you how far we've gone. we shouldn't be shocked about that. but of course there was

obviously the video wind viral. you can't find anybody that has not seen it but that is okay. and there was criticism from the progressive regions and the more traditional and conservative regions there were great praise. the general cannot the next day carson for president. that might have been a little tongue in cheek but the fact of the matter is the response and the letters and the e-mails, the books. in my office you could barely get in the door. the thing that affected me the most were the letters that i got from the elderly americans, a lot. they said doctor i am an elderly american, i fought in world war ii and i was waiting to die

because i had given up on america until i heard you speak and i had a lot of responses like that and i get that all the time every place i go. therefore i am continuing to speak up and i will continue to speak out because i want people to understand the nation that we live in and i don't want them to be manipulated. >> host: carper dress christi texas, you are on book tv with dr. carson. >> caller: i would like to say what an honor to be addressing you this morning. it is an honor. what i want to comment on regarding your earlier comment about one of your counselors that i believe misdirected view from continuing in the medical field. dalia understand exactly where you are coming from because when i was attending college i was told the same thing myr was told the same thing by your

high school counselor when my daughter mentioned she wanted to attend the words in texas and her counselor told her he would be lucky if you can get into the local community college which offended her also. it was very successful. my question to you is what can you tell the councilors out there that are the ones that are high school counselors and the college counselors. what can you do, what can you tell them to change their rationale and way of thinking in addressing the students? and i hope also we get to see you down here at the texas book fair hopefully leader on this year. once again is an honor. >> host: what do you do for a living? >> guest: i am a physical

education coach. >> host: thank you very much. >> guest: first of all i do want to say that the community colleges served a very important issue in our society as far as counselors, particularly high school counselors are concerned, recognize that anybody with a normal human brain has enormous potential. and what we need to be looking at is how do we cultivate that potential because that helps us all in the long run. never try to dump someone down or lead them into a place where they are not utilizing that tremendous potential god has provided for us. in the long run it's great to help you when you retire because he will have someone in the next generation who is a very productive and who is allowing you to lead a much better retirement. so let's try to push people of

word rather than downward. >> host: david in peoria please go ahead with your question or comment. >> guest: thank you for being here, dr. carson. if you believe anything that has happened since 1900 has helped the human race as far as voting, fair wages, anything? >> host: david, what is your answer to that question? david? turn down your tv. what is your answer to that question that he just asked? >> caller: i am flabbergasted that he is able to sit here and deny that progressives have not had a hand in helping the human cause throughout history. we all want the help of to

succeed, and i just think that when he is slightly 90 when he thinks about people doing their best. dr. person? >> guest: i don't recall they were not important and helpful, but that you may be diluting to the fact that i talk about agendas and certain progressives have come a people that want to take dhaka out of our society and take the principles out of our society and substitute for that their own principles. those people are perfectly willing and welcome to be here as far as i am concerned. but what i don't like is when they try to forecast their opinions on to everybody else and keep other people from being

able to express themselves and express their opinions. in terms of being able to help women's suffrage and all those things i think everybody has had a role in that. one of the things i do not particularly appreciate is by distorting at. if >> host: with america the beautiful and your speech at the national prayer breakfast is this kind of the first time that you face criticism such as david? >> guest: not by a long shot. i'm out there and, you know, i don't hide my opinions. i've been involved in the local controversies. when i first started defecating decompression which is a type of

operation endorsed at the first international conference in 1986 where many of the world's geneticists say you're surgeons are the ones who caused these people to die and even at hopkins there were some people against doing this. but now it's something that is very well done. there was controversy around hysterectomies and other problems. there's been controversies politically about some of my stands, my pro-life stand and things of that nature. i faced that before. i will continue to face it and i don't have any problem facing it. and i expect to face it. one thing that i tell young people all the time is if everybody loves you and they love everything you do and everything you say, you're probably not doing anything or saying anything. >> host: next call comes from

stark phill mississippi. >> host: please go ahead. >> caller: in 97i was in middle school in mississippi and from the gif corporation dr. carson came to talk to the students at the school and i wanted to know was he making a national tour to visit the different schools because we also had to read his books and write reports. i want to know was he planning on making vose? >> host: what did you think of dr. carson's visit when you were in middle school? >> caller: this is the reason i'm calling. one of the things that stuck out to me in his book is he said he had an ander management problem. and so in my town, that's one of the things with the young people that is on the rise, a lot of

armed robberies and rising murders and so he decided he found a way to channel that energy into a directed effort and so i wanted to know -- that's what got me in this book. but it was in '97, '98. i wanted to know can he bring that energy fishback? >> host: can you tell let him personally as well? >> guest: i will. thank you so much. i've been actually traveling around the country giving talks for more than 20 years and getting involved in various communities activities and charitable organizations which is one of the reasons quite frankly that people knew, the vast majority of people who know me knew a few months ago when

certain progressives were trying to paint me as a homophobic and knew what i was a bunch of crap. you have a whole lifetime to point out who you are as opposed to the short period of time to someone who tries to castigate you. having said that, i was an extraordinary selfish young person as an adolescent, and i was a person but felt they had a lot of rights. the more rights you think you have, the more likely someone is to infringe upon your rights. someone is always an trenching on my rights and i would go after people with baseball bats and get in fights. once i even tried to stab another youngster with a knife as in the movie depicted with cuba gooding jr. plays my part. but after that incident, i

locked myself in the bathroom and i stood contemplating my life and realized trying to kill somebody over nothing that i was seriously deranged. and i prayed and i picked up a bible and it had all these verses about fools and i said that sounds like me. but it also had a lot of anger and how there's no point getting angry if you're going to get right back into it. a man to control his temper than a man who can conquer the city and verse after verse and chapter after chapter it seemed like it was written for me. while i remained there for three hours i came to an understanding that it was not a sign of strength to punch somebody, it was a sign of weakness. it meant that you could be controlled by other people and by the environment. and i would want to be in

control but i also came to understand that it was my selfishness because somebody was in my space and doing something to me. it was always about me and i and if you can step outside of the center of the circle and let it be about somebody else may be that will change things and i started trying out that day and i had another anchor outburst since that time. >> host: in "america the beautiful," you write as a believing christian you imagine i wouldn't be a proponent of gay marriage. i believe god loves homosexuals as much as he loves everyone but if we can redefine marriage as between two men or to women or any other based on social pressures as opposed to between a man and woman, we will continue to redefine it in a way that we wish, which is a slippery slope of a disastrous ending. >> correct. and i stand completely by that. and that is marriage has been

and has always and should be between a man and woman. and if you begin to redefine it and i was asked that question and i said i didn't think that gays could do that and i mentioned a couple of our categories, the point being that there is no group now or in the future that should get the chance to redefine it because if they do it would keep somebody else from coming along 20 years from now or 50 years from now. what right do you then have to say we are keeping it this way. this doesn't make any sense. the easier thing to do is to read the traditional definitions along but make whatever accommodations you need to make for other people. and what i've always said is any two adel ghats -- two adults of

any orientation have the right to a ceremony if they want concrete legal documents, which give them dissertation rights, property rights, whatever rights they would like to have that could be crafted in to the agreement. leaves marriage alone. you don't have to mess with marriage in order to do that and that is what is really fair. if we take one group and say you can change it for all of us our is that fair? so what i'm talking about is treating everybody the same. >> host: joe is in north dakota. you are on booktv. please go ahead with your question or comment. >> caller: dr. carson i am honored to have the chance to talk to you >> guest: that is the only other state that i haven't visited. >> host: >> caller: i am a farmer and

rancher, 75-years-old. i enjoy your talks because i heard you on the prayer breakfast and i'm just glad we have people like you and with a backbone that are trying to talk the truth. you are pro-life and against the marriage and all these things and i just want to tell you a little about my history. when i was 10-years-old i had a brother that was nine months old, my mother was 34. we had three girls in between and we started out on the farm which was my idea, i'm not complaining. talk about working yourself up on the latter. today we buy cattle out of montana, nebraska clear down to texas and allow for the country. all i hear from older people we know what their real roots are. they wanted to take the guns

away. well, you know and i know and anybody with a common mind knows guns do not kill people, it is the people that kill people. ..

and. >> director cursing you mentioned to you are working on a new book? >> to defeat entitled one nation and i want to make sure that people understand we're not each other's enemies we have to throw away this whole ideology that it is my way i the only one that is right to. always said if the national prayer breakfast in eagle can have -- can fly straight and high because it has two wings of left-wing and the right wing but if it is weighted data as problems the people of the left and

the people on the right we need to understand the live here together. in terms of the big issues for the most part we agree and i am reminded of the movie independence day with will smith. the earth was suffering this alien invasion and allison and the americans and the russians are working together. we need to emphasize those things then we can deal with the of their issues as they come along. i liken it to a ship that is about to go over niagara falls. everybody will be killed you have the crew and passengers sitting there looking over the head to look at the barnacles we need to get those off the ship by paid good money to go on the cruise. [laughter] >> host: that begs the

question is in the "america the beautiful" can we learn from the mistakes of the past of not there'll be other pinnacled nation's. >> guest: certainly no one else has ever learned. i could not argue vigorously to say no we can't learn from it but somehow i don't think it is true i think there's something very different about this country than any other countries. we are the child of every of the nation. we are the mosaic of the world so we should have the interests of all the other pieces of the world as a part because they really are our parents. second, this is a country that was founded on god the principles. they think that makes a big difference how you look at

the world. rather than be ashamed of that, be proud of that. every coin it in your pocket says in god we trust could do we act like it? no. come on that is schizophrenia. people come along to say should say very christmas? somebody might be offended. excuse me. freedom of speech and freedom of expression is a salutation of peace it is not i hate you so i will say this to irritate. come on. stop letting people manipulate and whipped into a frenzy was not in issue 50 years ago the same people were here it is just as we have to be richer dick with the real problem is not the artificial ones.

>> host: the next call is from montana. >> caller: my question is have you studied the federal reserve? this is the situation bringing down american i have been in the money business of my life i of the age of joe but they have control of the irs, they have many floating all over the world every nation now they have to have a central banking and it is killing us because it is not based on supply ian to me and. readjust printing paper. >> yes i have interestingly

enough. people are based all this stuff the have steadied in that is a curious question but when we couple the dollar from gold during fdr zero lots of possibilities begin to rise the way currency could be manipulated the way many could be printed. right now the name of the united states is only thing behind our currency and it does provide opportunities for manipulation i think what all legislators need to be aware of and to understand history and we need to understand the implications into the future and a way to solidify the value of our currency not to

do devaluate by continuing to print money. >> host: dr. carr said we have an e-mail. >> we live with the hyper partisan area'' dash era if you would run for president as a republican what changes would you make to correct the errors of the past? >> guest: first call i think those parties have plenty of bears. -- i talked up several hours and hours but both parties have been guilty is this country was designed as a place for a and the other hand by the people. know we are rapidly moving toward what the founders feared that is a country of the and by the government as the government increases it

infringes upon the people. if we are kind of allowing it to happen and sticking our hands -- are headed the cnr not noticing. our head in the us a and. i want us to pay attention because it is a genius document with the constitution. if not they beestings would not work out for the nation there is so much discord people had different opinions and who had what rates in before it broke apart the elders stood up before the whole assembly 1787 and said during the revolutionary

was god save us. he did not you don't even want to talk to him? lettuce get on our knees and ask god for wisdom in a bill down and prayed and put together to put this 16 page document known as the constitution of the united states a greatly admired it document that if they appeared to we would not be having barely the problems that we have today. if i were ever in that position that document would once again become very important to us. >> host: your book "take the risk" you say talking to people like george lucas i have come to a conclusion the most important determinant of level of success in the wenatchee's is how he/she deals with the risk factor represents. >> guest: yes.

there are people that i admire a lot. george lucas, his family was in the retail business and that is where his father intended for him to go but his heart was in film. he was really living hand to mouth it was not a pleasant situation. finally he got a break somebody said i want you to direct i will pay $100,000 he said i wanted to my own thing. he got his big break with american graffiti then came the other things he continued to do his own thing and his own way and stuck to his guns to create the amazing empire in the entertainment for millions around the world. a black man in birmingham

alabama became a multimillionaire had does that happen within racism? i asked him when he was 25 years old it was a great honor and i said how did you do that? he said it was simple. i opened my eyes and looked around. what did people of the? would never was is that is what i did. a lot of people were concerned about their funeral a 600 funeral was scary she started insurance 1/4 per week and i can do a $600 funeral if you died tomorrow everybody was giving a quarter he has so many he did not know what to do with the end he started a

baking and the life-insurance company and that was just the clueless philosophy what do people need? we'll get the great inventions that have improved all of our lives because somebody had the same attitude and they did that. that this ought to produce ursid what america is all about we feel encouraged all policies should be directed at encouraging that not finding ways to take from this or redistribute that is not where we are or were should be as a nation. >> host: modesto california. >> caller: figure for talking mike called dr. carson. i am a and engineer at the time when my wife became ill

because of a heart problem and had a heart attack. it was hereditary but the issue we ran into i had to give up my job to take care for a family in we had to pay cobra $702 per month that this time and when they tried to look to other insurance companies no one would touch her with a 10-foot pole because of the precondition and to geographically if we needed to move someplace else of order to have better coverage i found $779 per month. we're middle income. >> host: what would you like him to respond to?

>>. >> caller: with medicine will bankrupt middle america. >> guest: no question we have rapidly escalating cost of medical care that was the impetus behind obamacare. obviously that has not worked and the price has gone up to that does not mean we should not have looked at the issue. one of the major pillars of the american health care system are insurance camby -- companies that make money by 89 people care that is fundamentally wrong as a conflict of interest and of the problem with the making a profit they think is to be a nonprofit organization i don't think the idea of profit-taking on some of health care in that manner

when you have nothing to do with health care really is fair. we need to address that rather then some people being gleeful as it falls apart i think it does not appear to be the thing that is working but let's not say i told you so that this is the only way we have to gm in through. stop and be reasonable individuals learned some things to implement then absolutely of other things we have known before. absolutely. then millikan models that have worked can we apply those with the intellect to solve a problem rather than a political football?

i talked about the national prayer breakfast of what would work well with health savings accounts thicker play and you can only put $2,500 of medical savings that is a drop in the bucket and is not meaningful. but the real health savings account that is similar to singapore which is contributed to throw your life ty you can accumulate a significant amount of money in even the people we get with medicaid if put into the agency would give the held the account and in singapore if heart transplant is 80,000 and he only has 75,001 dash 75,000 his wife or mother father

senator daughter king give the other 5,000 it is like a miniature insurance company in their cost per capita is less than one-quarter of hours and they're very happy they can also think by bridge insurance or catastrophic insurance we should be able to look to these kinds of things. i think if we start -- stop making a partisan to fix it for the people we can do this. absolutely. >>. >> host: in the book "america the beautiful" is health care a right? >> guest: you say to a large extent insurance come on dash insurance companies decide who they want to pay into a new era when even those doctors operate with a slim profit margin in make it difficult to offer care

to the board to pay for it out of profit i speak out of personal experience because i have had to cut by staff significantly due to load insurance company reimbursement. >> guest: yes. interestingly enough i for started to practice medicine it would come to my intention i will look at the case and i would say we could help this person. i would say let's override the costed nobody said favor happy to do. everybody was happy to donate the services it was never an issue. not one single time but over the course of the years as the budget started to type in the profit margin shrunk to the hospital would go out

of business if they continued and i totally understand that and don't blame them but we need to recognize most people who go into medicine are generous people. years ago almost 15 percent of the populace could not pay but we took care of them into way -- in any way because they're good people and we need to stop finding ways to penalize them to make life more tolerable. >> host: our next caller is from michigan. >> caller: have you ever faced discrimination with in the black community for being successful and how have you done that?

i will listen off the phone. go blue. >> guest. [laughter] certainly there are people in the black community in particular or particular in the media who have been critical of me and they savor one he is uncle tom. i don't get into that but i did just mention of wonder if you know, with that term actually means? because of coulter of and was the goal long to get a lot of character. that is exactly the opposite so i recommend to go back and actually read the story before he starts accusing people of things he does not know what he is talking about but that is as they

did is they get on people. >> host: you write many black people have racist feelings to the whites but mostly what i have viewed is reactionary said angry response to the discrimination they have received it is no less destructive than any other variation. >> guest: absolutely. racism regardless of where it comes from burma is evil. we like to pick one group to say they are the racist but i think anybody who looks at me who says this is what he should be thinking or saying? conservatives or a liberal. they are a racist but of was giving in interview with npr and they said i know they

don't speak about race period often. why is that? i said because i may neurosurgeon. she looked at me quizzically what the heck does that have to do with it? when i take someone into the operating room like the scalp and take off the bottom flap by an operating on the thing that makes the person who they are. the cover does not make them who they are a and only those who are superficial that the color defines the person cover those people who were deep but the content of the character is merchant mr. king said. >> host: doctor person come in eighth grade who is mr. mckeon? >> the band teacher. i tell the story of how how i had turned things around and i was in fifth grade i was a dummy but then i got

to the top of the klaus the same kids i had been missing the fifth grade they had seen the transition in their very impressed and excepting there was a special award given to the students with the highest academic performance and i was the only black student in the eighth grade. in do we take your report card around they would put your grade on it. band was the last class i had all a's and it would be easy. and he gave me a c. even though i was the clearest of the you wanted to keep me from getting the top award but it turns out the and was my challenge so i still got the top award. >> host: okay.

>> guest: this is also depicted in the movie hit one of the teachers who got up and chastised the other students how could they allow a black student to be number one? recognize this is 50 years ago and there are a lot of people who do not think possibly intellectually could equal a white person. i don't think necessarily favor evil or a plaid is the culture and i took it upon myself to educate people. i've was always shocking people they but the engine something in this 13 year-old comes along and you

would think what is going dylan? enjoy shocking people but to discriminatory practices are based on ignorance. that is solid is that is why it is important to educate people the more educated they are the less superficial. >> host: you also talk about being gay resident at john hopkins in mistaken for a woman. >> would be for scheming to 77 black doctors were extraordinarily rare and never won on neurosurgeon rotation 11 have on the scrubs many times they would mistake me for the orderly. i am sorry mr. smith is ready to be taken tuesday operating room and i was aim

dr. carson. don't be embarrassed of would be very nice and i would have a friend for life because they appreciated my attitude but the reason it is that way is because a look at the big picture and from the perspective of this nurse the only black man to ever come on this floor was the orderly. so why would she think something else? now if they do it the second time i may have a few choice words and. >> host: did you ever have a patient the fuse your services? >> yes. when i first came to hawkins there were patients who did not want their care by a black physician. the chairman of our department who has a quaker background would tell them the same thing.

dr. carson is a prized resident, we chose him from among many in if you're going to be in his hospital he will be involved in your care and if you don't like that the door is right over there in he was very consistent with that message and it turned out not to be a big problem. >> host: houston, you are on booktv with dr. carson. >> caller: it is an honor to talk with you today. i have a question i have spinal atrophy and i am 40 years old and also have an older sister with the same disease. and do you know, if there has been in the advances in the scientific research to find a cure of spinal muscular atrophy or any other type of dystrophy?

>> that is a question better directed to a virologist who specializes but i will tell you there is a vivid research in terms of how to use electronic apparatus to stimulate along with brave waves to activate the limbs that are not contacted and therefore it is important to keep your limbs in good shape because that technology is advancing. will be at some point be able to control system cells i suspect the answer is yes. i would definitely differ to a neurologist that is an expert in this area. >> host: to have any

connection -- connection with hopkins? >> guest: i am the emeritus professor and still on the schedule of teaching. i have warm feelings to johns hopkins people say i must hate that because of the commencement situation. i don't. the decision to withdraw was my own. no one asked me to do it but i thought the graduation it should be about the students and not about me it would have been a circus so why put anybody through that? i got so many mills for my colleagues and staff approaching 1,000 of support and how much they appreciated what i have done and how they enjoyed working with me. most of them would not be public because those were fearful some of the medical

students were fearful to show all word support because they thought they may be penalized by nothing david do that but the fact that people have that fear is concerning is something we should concentrate on. >> host: what is the commencement situation? >> was asked to give the commencement address this year and also the school of education. because of the situation with a marriage and my definition between a man and a woman, as some of the media that does not like the set was comparing but they knew if they could pick -- pained me that way it would

demonize me and it took root with a few students but anybody who knows me knows there is not a homophobic bone in my body that what they do care about is freedom and justice for everybody in ahold said standards and i would readily a bit with my belief is in god. i am not apologetic about that. but at the same time, even though i am not an advocate of gay marriage i have no objection whatsoever to the engage people or anybody quite frankly that does not want to be stable and to

have a committee of the benefits that unless you totally agree -- agree with the way i wanted to then the example that i frequently use is a lot of the people who advocate for gay marriage like a new group of mathematicians come along to say to plus two equals five the traditional mathematician says it is always been for. they say it is five. reassessed so for you eight can be five then they say no if it is not 54 you say you are a masochist but this kind of intolerance is

something we need to do get rid of. >> host: recently tanya davis the producer of this program visited dr. carson at his home in suburban baltimore to learn where he writes and how he writes in here is a little bit of that >>. >> guest: those people don't really understand how it works a lot of people write books then spent the next years to get someone to publish the book i have never done that when people say how do get a book published? i am the wrong person to ask [laughter] but i feel i had something to say at all right the

purpose just for the purpose the first four books i did with a co-writer and basically i could dictate a into a tape recorder and senate tape they would transcribe but this classbook they did myself with my wife she did a lot of the research and helped with the editing. of course, she is quick 2.0 the first one it number one on "the new york times" best sellers list. [laughter] provided the very much enjoy working with my wife so i will do that for now on. it does tend to come pretty easily it is like speaking. and i give a speech i don't

have the written text but i just go and survey the situation depending on the audience i will have a few points i want to make sure they make but then they start to speak and write the same way i will have a chapter in write-down some ballpoints and digester dictating. it is very much what is in my heart i always pray and ask god to carry me in my riding to give me wisdom for what points need to be brought up in i think it does a pretty good job of that.

>> host: dr. ben carson

who is your wife? >> guest: she's my wife of 38 years we met at yale but neither of us had money to pay for the trip back home but when the recruiting we found a we liked each other quite a bit and interestingly enough on her way back to school we were in a rental car to get it back the next morning driving from ann arbor to new haven and we would drive of might and she fell asleep and then i fell asleep at the wheel going 90 miles per hour in youngstown ohio and was awakened grab the wheel

and the car started to spin like a top i do remember my life root like a movie going to and i said i will die but then the 80 miller came barreling through a and a i was awake by that time. >> host: you can purchase a pate with the author and neurosurgeons and ben carson.

dr. carson is the author of five books beginning in 1980 with the autobiography "gifted hands", "think big" 1996. "the big picture" 2000. "take the risk" 2008 "america the beautiful" 2011 albuquerque, new mexico you have been patient. please go ahead. >> caller: i was advised

by the v.a. hospital chaplain not to talk about my sexual orientation was doctors and nurses at the virginia because a lot of those employees are very conservative and i would not receive the same level of care. because of homophobia day think that is real in the medical profession and in society? >> guest: certainly it has been in the past for i think as people have gotten to know people who are gay and in many cases did the know that a first of recognize they are regular people, i have worked with, hired, dell with the people for years. there is no reason ever tell anybody to be homophobic but

at the same time i would also say to those in the gay community don't assume someone is homophobic because they believe in traditional marriage. i think that is a stretch or a fair assessment. >> host: chapel hill. go ahead. >> caller: will you puke -- please explain to your audience why you repeated the use the term secular progressive? my wife and i are progressive but our religion and forms of free political and social beliefs with everything we do so why'd you constantly used that term? thank you very much. >> if you are in fact, a

believer in god you are not a secular progressive. secular the way i use that term are people who knew tend not to believe in god and who social cues are informed by their non belief and the substitution of their own code of ethics. >> host: bakersfield bakersfield, california. good afternoon. >> caller: you mentioned earlier about the fact that he ran for president you and get back to the basics of the u.s. constitution and i wonder how we got away from that in the first place and? is that something we did a or is the government taking on a life of its own and not

really paying attention to what the constitution means or stands for? >> a think both of those are true. we have not been vigilant and to have to recognize that freedom is not something the thrust upon you put something that you have to seek an end to maintain. the natural order of things is that governments grow and expand to take on a life of their own and the founders of this country warned us severely against the and they tried to put in place a constitution that would restrain the growth of government but we actually have allowed people in all three branches of cover government to ignore the constitution. they see no consequences for

doing that. we the people are the ultimate authority. they work for us. but if we neglect our responsibilities then they can do anything they want to do we need to wake up to know what the of the voting records are of the representatives in people and the executive branch, we need to hold them responsible. if we don't they will simply take liberties. the other thing that is interesting is one of the pillars of a strong democratic society is a free press and it won this free of bias to report a gain is fairly on either side. this seems to be something that is lost in our society

and if we take sides but doesn't investigate what other side is doing but castigates the other, it empowers the side of their shaky to disregard the proportions and their own bet truck of authority and in the long run i did not think that the press would come to its senses that if the whole nation goes off the cliff, you are going off to. they are smart and they will come to that realization to the question is will it be in time? >> host: we have been

e-mail. >> are any of your sons also doctors and? >> guest: i have three sons. when all this is a and engineer. specializes in it nanotechnology. my middle son, benjamin junior lives in the financial world and is vice president of a financial firm to do investment banking and is networked everywhere. and my young guest is an accountant. have one granddaughter who is the cutest little thing you could never a mention born on a leap day last year and the way i understand that it works they have a birthday every year intel 30 than it is once every fourth year after that. [laughter] >> host: where was ben carson, jr. born? >> guest: at home. it was not intended that way

but my wife had been in a marathon that day. she only walked. but but unbeknownst to us at that time that there is an ingredient what she ate that midwives use to induce labor so at 2:00 in the morning my wife said the baby is coming. i said it doesn't work that way. they start to have contract shan's at 10 minutes then five minutes then to miss the recall of hospital she said i industry and for the baby is coming and the baby was crowning so we had to deliver the baby at home. he has been in a hurry ever

since. >> host: florida. go-ahead "take the risk" it is an honor to speak with you dr. carr said they kiefer also lives you have saved in the operating room but also those with inspiration. i have the privilege to meet you at least 50 years ago at a black of black crime seminar. i wrote most everything you said that day you talked about a tennis shoe factory you dissected it because one was priced at the high rates and others were cheaper and they were identical on the inside and was impressed with that. >> host: why real at the black on black seven are? >> guest: a police officer 27 years and a community police officer in the predominantly black community at the time and i would therefore trading. that was probably one of the

greatest positions i ever held to be actually parts of the committee as opposed to enforce the law. restarted quite a few programs helping out the use coming to clean up the neighborhood and take their concerns to try to solve them as best we could. >> guest: wonderful. >> host: how close are you to stand for florida? >> guest: quite a distance. do you know, tampa bay? i am one city next to st. petersburg. >> guest: and nt seven i take it that you are white? >> caller: ibm. >> host: what is your take on the trayvon martin case? >> caller: it is sad the way mr. zimmerman was treated. he did but we ask of almost all citizens whether black or white or of any race to take your head out of the sand and pay attention in your community.

he saw something that looked suspicious and he did what he thought was right. it is unfortunate with the outcome. had to some of the of their citizens gotten involved instead of looking up their windows and had just stepped outside to simply yelled the police are on the way, i believe mr. zimmerman would not have been beaten and i think trayvon would still be alive. >> host: dr. kerr said he recently wrote an op-ed about this case in the washington -- "the new york times." >> guest: my point was some people are calling to boycott florida because of the outcome of the zimmerman trial there were not satisfied with the verdict but the use of boycotts should not be taken in late night talk about the history with meg to emery with the bus boycott not to deter it -- throw them around loosely

we should learn everything we can from this situation in neighborhood watch really can be quite useful when used in conjunction with the police and well-trained with the trayvon martin and zimmerman case there probably was more trading that could have been done because what i have known as a youngster growing up in the ghetto when somebody starts to fall you at night time, that is usually a serious situation you go into a fight during flight mode and you make the choice. those police will say he

don't actually approach individual you yell out to them use a few are then asked and asked if there doing their from a distance. >> posted this time the answer is satisfactory and if not you call the police. perhaps if we could make sure that never watch people know that throughout the nation and we could avoid this situation from occurring again soulless learn from a situation if either mr. zimmerman or mr. martin had backed down had less of a confrontational stance i don't think we would put get this tragedy in the of the point that i made is knowing this case would be highly scrutinized and very

controversial it would have fanwise for the legal counsel of both sides to create one dash create more diversity in the jury not that they came up with the wrong verdict but you have to be concerned about optics and people throughout your community. their all-important and there is a way to do what the looks better for everybody. >> host: in several books books, you mention in jesse jackson. do you have a relationship with him? >> guest: certainly i have met him and i think a lot of the things that he stood for years ago when working with dr. king were extremely admirable in he has made a contribution to 70 were in

high school the day he was shot? what happened? >> guest: that day is still so vivid in my memory the black students were incredibly angry and many we're going around in groups looking for any one person they could find to just beat the tar out of them. i was very concerned i was the biology lab assistant i had a key i was getting the students in to allow to hide in and tell it was over. i was very disappointed and a gray that dr. king had been killed but to follow what was going on with the civil-rights movement with great interest

the was not ready to blame all white people for that and i think that just demonstrated for the christianity part of me. i recognize that god loves us all but to lump people into a category bases superficial qualities is the height of irresponsibility. >> host: merrill lynch. go ahead. >> caller: thank you for answering. i did admire your courage to speak about what is important to the individual i agree to talked-about conscience but that they

deserve to we respected for their honesty if they agree or not. i don't need to know your future plans but what is the next p to protect people's rights and how can i support you? >> guest: thank you. right now i am writing books i am doing an incredible amount of public speaking. probably too much. i am working with the scholarship program in all 50 states and try to take children from all backgrounds that chief at the highest levels in also demonstrates humanitarian qualities we don't just want people who were smart and don't care and we put them on the same pedestal as the allstate players in rustlers i'd have anything against

sports are maintained -- entertainment but will maintain is it the jump shot or to solve the equation? we also put in reading rooms all over the country and in particular target the title one schools. they will not learn to love reading they frequently drop out. we cannot afford that. this is the information age are the technological age and we cannot of course, -- afford to lose any students and we have to figure out to put the dollars were there really count to make a huge difference. so continue with academic pursuit in to do a fair amount of appearances on television but largely i

hoping to change the dynamics to get rid of patrons but if we work together there is amazing things we can accomplish. >> host: have you been approached to run for office? >> guest: many times. people feel that is in my future but my personal opinion is i can do a lot of good outside the political arena and a lot of friends are republicans or democrats. to me it does not matter of life to deemphasized that to talk about the problems that we have. >> host: lake tahoe e-mail's. >> i am the head teacher and in a court mandated

high-school inside juvenile hall. you had a tough childhood but what words of advice you have former students? >> guest. thank you for your service in working with those young people. the police officer who called before, a figure. teachers and police officers are some of my favorite people along with the nurses and they frequently are not recognized. by the way as long as i am being nice, happy birthday mr. president. he is 52 today. to those students, the average person listed be about 80 years old in this country. the first 20 or 25 years you are preparing yourself for not preparing yourself.

if you prepare yourself, you have 60 years to reap the benefits and if you don't you have 60 years to suffer the consequences. now is the time when you are making that decision and are the only one who gets to choose your future. . .