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, a leading member of the muslim brotherhood was recently ousted to my brother is still a dangerous group not to be taken lightly. about an hour and 15 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> i think really the best thing about my life is that i have wonderful friends and many of them are here. one of them is this brilliant, brilliant individual, and i don't mean that in the british sense, but the american sense. erick stackelbeck has written a groundbreaking book on the muslim brotherhood. it's called "the brotherhood: america's next great enemy." i am a slow reader, but i went through read in one afternoon because i could not put it down. it is such a page turner.

i think number one on amazon in terms of books about the middle east. it is reading to show how this organization that was established in 1929 has managed to infiltrate into various capital throughout the restaurant -- the western world and unfortunately into our very own. it has managed to, under the obama administration, metastasize and has been influencing power. without any further ado are like to introduce you to have wonderful individual, erick stackelbeck. [applause] >> i want to thank sarah for a first of all hosting this event and the endowment for middle east troops has such phenomenal work.

i looked at sarah as a modern-day esther, deborah. i really do. such a time as this to thank god for the organization and when you're doing and think of revving a year. you don't want to look at it. i know people are reading it. this is really the first book since the so-called arab spring broke out that gets into detail about the main player and the arabs during, which i referred to as the as long as winter in the book. so actually i have to say, i don't even know why we're having this event because the muslim brotherhood is time. they're gonna come out of power. we don't have to worry about them anymore. the postmortem. if only it were so.

the muslim brotherhood has been down this road before, as i document in the book. the muslim brotherhood, its leaders were killed, executed, imprisoned. the group was banned for decades. its headquarters in cairo was burned to the ground. completely suppressed by the egyptian military, sort of like what is happening now. but they refuse to die. they are back and they came back so far that they actually seized the reins of power in egypt for year. thank god as only here. it appears our administration is already wistful for that year of muslim brother had a rule. a year, as a matter of fact, and this tells you something about the muslim brotherhood and what totalitarian fanatics they are. during that year in power morsi and his minions shows covering

newman from head to toe, persecuting christians and harassing jews over feeding their people. it is interesting because we have the largest demonstration in human history a few weeks ago when morsi was ousted and a lot of people in the streets likely voted for morsi just a year ago. that tells us two things. egypt right now is a schizophrenic society, practically ungovernable. to one-half massive revolutions in the span of just two years. the other thing it tells you is when your stomach is crumbling, you will get added to the streets in protest. a lot of the people, i'm sure, and the streets, probably agree with his vision for egypt, but egypt right now by many accounts

may be on the brink of famine, starvation. the economy is in the toilet. tourism, the lifeblood is done with all of this chaos. so what we have and why us, you, we over here should care about what happens over there, number one, i don't believe that the muslim brotherhood will go quietly. eighty-four years they waited and waited and moved in the shadows and worked skillfully to gain power. eighty-four years, and they finally got it. their vision of a share real estate in egypt. it was about to come to fruition . after one year there was suddenly and violently as best away from them.

does anyone in this room really believe that the muslim brotherhood will stay we give it a good shot. we tried democracy. did not workout. we will be back next year. does anyone really believe these guys would go away quietly? room bourbon 55 remember the model, reading in part -- i have been studying this group for 12e point i can recite their founding mano in my sleep. i don't sleep when i recited to my have nightmares because it reads in part to my the essence, war is our way to my dying in a way of god is our highest tow. war is our way. military conquest is our way, our reason for being, diane, martyrdom.

example, suicide bombing is our highest so. this is to they are. where i am from in philadelphia we say, it is what it is. that is what they are. it's too they are. and when the muslim brotherhood leader start in the halls of the white house, congress, meeting with our leaders they still live by this model. it has never changed. this is who they are. so with a group that glorifies murder and mayhem even though they wear expensive our money suits, which we will discuss, to you think that they will go away quietly? there are groups in egypt even more radical which is saying something. they're already calling for martyrdom. we had a spokesman saying last week that we are willing to die for our cause. willing to protest. the last time there were

islamist protests it was stormed on the anniversary of september september 11th. morsi was strangely silent about that fact. remember my infamous speech back in 2009 and my administration personally requested the you pair. it wanted a brother there. you're the future of egypt. you're making me look bad. and now apparently we want them back. earlier sending a message. just yesterday we talked about banning the sale to the egyptian military. there will pull the deal off the table because morsi was so rudely ushered out. heaven forbid the military says, we don't want them involved in

the next government. that whole thing did not work out so well. the obama administration said, no, you must have been involved. they're moderates. they're democrats. in fact, they wear suits and ties. they speak in moderate tones. they are actually quite charming i lay out my first encounters with these individuals. operators around the world, are troubled, been in their homes, but in their offices, and been in their archives. i can tell you these guys are good. there are bad, but there good at what they do. a suits, the wavy hair, designer glasses. they support democracy. they will keep the peace treaty with the zionist entity, not israel, the zionist entity.

even the most moderate muslim brotherhood talking heads call it the zionist entity. they say all the right things, and if you are a naive western leader, western opinion maker or journalist and sit down with these guys and really want to like them, he seemed so reasonable, maybe we can use him as a counterweight in a really bad guy. we can use the brotherhood. there aren't glowing anyone up debt. their palestinian wing is how maas' itself identifies itself as the palestinian wing of the muslim brotherhood. they're just killing jews so that we don't have to worry about it even though they have also kill american citizens. our leaders see the broader than say we can work with these guys. they say all the right things. this is a disastrous policy in so many ways.

it has got us in how such hot water, especially in egypt. here is what you need to remember and why every american watching right down these to know about the muslim brotherhood. without the birth in egypt in 1928 there would be no war and terror. as a matter of fact, there would have been no september 11th. i know that might shock some people. as a a bit of hesitation or reservation. this is the granddaddy of them all. they spawned al qaeda. they created a mosque. it is no coincidence that the man behind september 11th, before they formed al qaeda to my guess which group they belonged soon? the muslim brotherhood. ladies and to amend my mere to

tell you that the muslim brotherhood is the gateway drug to is on terrorism and to geoid. if you want to understand all this mayhem and why we are up against the wall with this war on terror, this existential struggle to judeo-christian western civilization and i am saying that in the capitol, truth is at a premium. that is was going on. if you want to understand why we are up against you have to understand this group. it started with them and lived to be very politically incorrect they had plenty of theological and of to backup their ideology which is a fact. so the muslim brotherhood thunder forms this group in 1928 in egypt. he is devastated that the islamic caliphate has collapsed. what is that?

is funny sounding word that every american should know. picture a united muslim state, every muslim nation united economically, politically, militarily, speaking with one strong voice at the u.n. against israel and america, controlling a good supply of the world's oil and, perhaps, if things keep progressing way have been, being nuclear-armed. pakistan, god forbid the iranians. this is what you have been now looking at which is why the muslim brotherhood was founded in their essence to revive this caliphate. this was a great tragedy to islamists far and wide. did they existed for centuries. that's why they were founded. that's what they want to restore from the beginning.

i interviewed his grandson. the apple does not far -- fall far from the tree. the title is called a history of violence, not of moderation, not a dialogue and diplomacy. they stuck to it from the beginning. giving speeches inpouring followers to sacrifice their lives. nothing is hire or greater than martyrdom. he in grand this into the consciousness of his followers. started out with seven people in the backrooms some place in egypt. by 194820 years later the brother had between some estimates 1,000,002,000,000 members in 20 years. it became the most powerful and organized force in egypt and the most radical from the beginning. you need to understand.

we won it. and other vanguard, another bad rock, anti-semitism. not just the state of israel, but the jewish people as all. every to walking the planet. that sounds very radical and as long -- alarmist. i laid out in meticulous detail and the book how the leaders throughout the past eight or nine decades have talked about eradicating the jews. can't give you an example of a name the need to remember, probably the most influential islamic cleric in the world, the muslim brotherhood's spiritual leader. i've interviewed members who quote him verbatim. he is an icon. he said, our battle is not just against the state of israel, not

just between egypt and israel or a certain nation state and israel but between all jews and all arabs to of the day of judgment comes and the jews will be wiped off the mat. it is not be saying it. it is the muslim brotherhood's most influential worldwide figure today. if you don't believe me, the book is meticulously foot noted. it is a fine thing when you "people. it is also a funny thing because when people tell me they want to come me and kill the jewish people cannot believe them and take them at their word. heather said the same thing in the 1920's. he was ignored and blown off. the muslim brotherhood has been saying the same thing and try to enforce policies to make their reality. from the beginning they collaborated with the nazis,

hitler's minions and war machines to extend the final solution from europe in to the middle east and north africa, eradicate the jews in the middle east and north africa, collaborated closely with the nazis, our new friends in the middle east, our new our rich partners, participated, sent battalions in 1948 to assist in the invasion and crashing of the fledgling state of israel in 1948. the brotherhood was on the ground killing jews. by the early 1950's they wanted the power. but even he was threatened by a totalitarian vision of the muslim brotherhood. i quote him in the buck. they wanted to shut down movie theaters, cover women from ito. a wanted to share power until they could get full power.

that's the plan. there were crushed in the early 1950's. not before they were through with assassinating egyptian leaders, assassinating the egyptian prime minister, causing a wave of terror, a campaign of terror and man in egypt. in the late 1930's-early 1940's burning synagogues to the ground, arresting jews in the streets and publishing and not see-style anti-semitic propaganda. and you wonder why morsi joined the muslim brotherhood according to his wife, is better half, i suppose, joined the muslim brotherhood not in cairo or alexandria but here while he was a student at the university of southern california. don't worry your get alarmed.

the muslim brotherhood is not here in america. even though there are -- actually to my layout at their present and some 80 countries around the world. squashed in egypt, taken a step back. that is there up, and it is a big setback could, but this is a global movement. while you should care about what happens over there, suppose the brother had does not go quietly and the islamist allies choose not to go quietly. here is a scenario to chew on. suppose they target the suez canal where a good amount of the world's oil passes to the middle east every day on its way to your. suppose they shut it down through an act of terror. what happens when you go to the pump every day? what happens to the global economy, oil and gas prices

skyrocket and you will feel it in nova said the american people don't care what the name of kim kardashian is baby is. suppose they carry out attacks in the sinai peninsula. i don't have a map, but if you're watching or listening, it borders could israel. over the past year strange the enough it has increased. just a coincidence, i'm sure. attacks launched out of sinai into israel. on a regular basis. now, if the egyptian military does not want to get an allotted to multiply they do. they don't want to get a handle on it. if they're is a major attack launched, i don't know, but i think israel may not stand and take it on the chin. if they're is a regional conflict you will feel it. if israel is forced to defend

itself because right now it is like a vise crushing israel in the middle. the regional war is coming. i know i am a very fine guy, but i have to be honest with the, is this a time to mince words or be bold, speak out, and tell the truth? [applause] especially here in the u.s. capitol. people need to hear it. i see three potential triggers. egypt, the possibility of chaos. syria where it is an interesting thing. on one hand al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood and their associates and of the other hand syria, the regime, has the law, and the iranians, and they're killing each other. my impulses, have vetted.

have to tell you, i am devastated by the humanitarian disaster. 100,000 people killed. horrible, horrific, but, man, when our greatest enemies have their guns trained on each other and not the zionists and the christians, well, let's see how it plays out. that's my impulse, and i don't mean to sound heartless, but i care of american interest first and personally do not see an interest in intervening in a conflict. that is my personal opinion. i am sort of educated, i guess. syria, egypt, and the iranian nuclear weapons program are the three potential traitors. of course if they want to activate as the law they are inclined to do so. so if you think things will be quiet in the middle east and we

can be distracted with petty political squabbles and you think this will just go one and the family. it will flare up here and there, think again. before it gets better it is going to get worse. john kerry's foray into diplomacy now standing. so the likes of the muslim brotherhood you have to understand, they cannot -- they cannot strike a peace treaty with israel. they cannot do it because then it would not be the muslim brotherhood. this is the bedrock of their existence. morsi was captured on video three years ago calling jews the sons of apes and takes to my calling israel the zionist entity saying that there could never be peace. by the way, in that same speech which was overlooked, he talked

about boycotting american goods. yeah, our friend, morsi, boycotting u.s. goods, talk about the zionist and american enemies, annamese. that is how you and i are viewed by the muslim brotherhood. so it is interesting that now we are going to cancel the sale of f-16s to the egyptian military. the time we should have done it was the year morsi was in power. now we will cancel them. i'm sure he just wanted them for the sake of deterrence. what are we doing? thank god you are gathered here on the capitol today. i see watch men and women on the wall. we have to tell the truth and speak about this because the muslim brotherhood is here, and

i'm not warning you were trying to scare you about but even under the table. i document in my book their documents. rapture at around this if you're listening at home and watching. our government, our government has the muslim brotherhood strategic documents in its possession. we have it. this is the equivalent during world war two of having the nancy game plan, during the cold war having stylus came plan. in 2004 to my ten minute drive from where we are sitting right now, northern virginia jets out -- just outside of washington d.c. the fbi conducted a raid of a leading global muslim brotherhood operative of his home, his peaceful suburban home in a well-kept tree-lined suburb of northern virginia. it beneath his basement was a

hidden subbasements. i know it all sounds very james bond, but bear with me because it is fact. in that basement our own fbi discovered 80 boxes of the official muslim brotherhood documents. quite a find. written in arabic. when these documents were translated, it turns out that they provided the game plan for the muslim brotherhood in america. one of the documents was titled, an explanatory memorandum on the movement in america. i'm paraphrasing. in it -- and i am quoting -- the muslim brotherhood is here in america to destroy western civilization from within. by its own miserable and with final words. we hear to destroy western

civilization from within. last time i checked america was a leader in the western civilization for now. so in the strategic documents 29 american muslim groups are named , the leading american muslim groups. it says these are our friends and the organizations of our friends. these are people, the 79 groups. this is not me but the muslim brotherhood. i have to tell you, one of those groups was called the islamic society of north america. very intriguing group. one of their leaders to cut this is the name you need to know about. his father was a leader in sudan now he is pushing the brotherhood agenda here in

washington d.c. .. >> they say, look, you have to bluy face and disguise my voice if i'm going to speak out about because my familyre kill me if i say this. you don't know. the muslim brotherhood are the

datekeepers at -- gatekeepers at muslim mosques. started out pretty moderate, we were thrust. >>, they -- they're providing tr ideology, and they slowly, slowly, slowly, muscled us out. more and more of their followers came, and all of a sudden the it was a brotherhood mosque. i document in the book how this is one of the brotherhood's game plans for america. it's a three-pronged strategy, and we know this again from their own documents. and did i mention our government has these documents in its possession? yet instead of crushing this inherently anti-american group opposed to every value we hold dear, we're embracing them and empowering them. why? the three-pronged strategy it lays out, number one, immigration, demographic jihad. number two, process prosthelyti.

another way is the building of islamic centers from coast to coast in america. not every mosque is a terror head in america, i know that. but mosques have been used, sadly, to launch terror attacks. and many mosques, sadly -- not all, but many -- can do have muslim brotherhood i'd lolling running -- ideology running rampantly in them. i've been in mosques across this country and across europe. i have picked up the literature and stared at it. the works of leading muslim brotherhood thinkers and idealogues, another name you should know, google it because our government apparently hasn't, save eyed qutb. he really in the modern day provided the framework for the endless jihad that al-qaeda

and all its offshoots want today and what their trying to carry out. every al-qaeda leader worth his suicide belt points to him as their inspiration. oh, he was a member of the muslim brotherhood. not only that, he was their chief propagandist, and i've talked to members who say both saed was a great man, but he lost his way. when he was in prison, he got radicalized. you have to take his writings in context. oh, the ones to wage perpetual jihad? until us ram reigns supreme over the world? -- islam reigns supreme? i've been on the ground in enclaves from coast to coast, and i have to tell you it's a funny thing. actually, it's a horrible thing to go to a place like nashville,

tennessee, the become l of the bible belt, and see muslim brotherhood-linked groups, concrete links -- i name names in the book, i document it in the book -- to see these characters building a multimillion dollar mega mosques across 15 acres of land. outside of nashville, tennessee? but imam, i said to him, there's only 120 muslim families many this whole town. why do you need a 1500-acre, multimillion dollar mosque? well, we had growing needs for the country. imam, and i talk about this encounter in the book. where's the money coming from? it's all locally raised, my friend, have a nice day. [laughter] now, i was at friday prayers at this mosque, and i have to tell you i saw cab drivers, students. i hate to be judgmental, it didn't seem like the most affluent bunch, per se.

and a 1500-acre mega, mega mosque, it's kind of expensive. and i know cab byes in d.c., they work their butt off. that's a lot of money. where's it coming from? i'll give you an idea, saudi arabia. and i document in the book, look, people have testified here on capitol hill that according to some estimates as many as 70 percent of american mosques have some kind of saudi funding behind them. and it's very interesting because through the years the brotherhood and the saudis have had an unholy alliance of sorts. and the saudis provided the money, and they built mosques and madrassas, islamic schools -- radical mosques, radical schools -- throughout europe, throughout the united states. for decades, billions of their petrol dollars. they spread it. now, of course, you can't build

a church or a synagogue in saudi arabia. you can't wear a cross or a star of david around your neck. but, boys, welcome in and build any mosque anywhere you want. it's a very equal, 50/50 relationship, i guess, between the u.s. and saudi arabia. because they have oil. and they're using those petrol dollars to build those radical mosques. and who is staffing those in europe and modern america? surprise, surprise, the muslim brotherhood. the brotherhood provided the imams and the ideology, an inherently anti-american, anti-semitic ideology. and i'm sorry, israel's enemies and america's enemies are one and the same. and israel, in these jihadist view -- if you're just thinking it's israel's problem, we don't need to worry about it, if you're thinking that, think again because in islamist

jihadist ideology whether it's shia or sunni, israel is only the little say a tan. israel is -- satan. israel is a bump on the road to the great satan. us. we have a bull's eye on our back. and if anyone sitting here believes that, if, god forbid, israel was wiped off the map, do you really think that the brotherhood or iran or whoever would say, all right, the zionists are gone, we can pack up our bags and go home now? we'll leave america, we'll leave europe alone. come on. israel is the canary in the coal mine. as a matter of fact, it's the first line of defense for western civilization. israel's enemies are america's enemies. like it or not. and if israel becomes embroiled in a regional war, is forced to defend itself against exist ten, threats -- existential threats, guess who also will be targeted?

they see us as kindred spirits, one and the same. i kind of like that because israel is a lone bastion of democracy in a sea of tyranny. the one country in the middle east that's, gasp, pro-american. i think it might be a good idea to stand with those folks. [laughter] so this is the situation we have with the brotherhood. sarah, how much time do i have left? >> another five minutes and -- >> that's fine. that'd be great. i've already, yeah, i'm surprised everyone's not mortified in their seats by now after this talk. but the enclave effect which i tab in the book, just to wrap it up, talking about the mosques, in the book i call it mosque enclave victory. because that's how they view it. and mosque building from to coast is a crucial part of the

muslim brother hood strategy. the muslim brotherhood strategy. not every muslim, but the muslim brotherhood who are the most influential organization, they've muscled their way to the forefront. and they've intimidated any opposition. there's a reason that in the year 2000 there were 1200 mosques in america. by 2011 there were over 2100 mosques. so in the span of a little more than a decade, the number of mosques doubled. since 9/11, by the way. now, when i look at the documents and they call for an increase in mosque building in america as part of their strategy, they call -- can and i quote -- mosques islamic centers the axis of their movement where battalions are supplied. they compare mosques to a beehive, the center of activity for the brotherhood and its

followers. and first comes the mosque, and then comes the enclave. they use a mosque, does the brotherhood. and the saudis, as a beachhead for radical islam. now, it could be a neighborhood like outside of nashville where there's a minuscule muslim population. but they will build the mosque, and, folks, if you build it, they will come. they build a mega, mega mosque. all of a sudden the locals say, jeez, you know, maybe some -- a few polish immigrants in the neighborhood, a few irishmen. i saw this in brooklyn as well where a multimillion dollar mosque was built smack dab in the middle of a residential street. holocaust survivors in this neighborhood. and the newspaper behind -- the group behind this mosque, another member of that alphabet soup, the muslim-american society who, not to get too

sidetracked, but all you basically need to know is that our federal government, federal prosecutors have named this group, quote: the overt arm of the muslim brotherhood in america. and guess what? they're building mosques across america. our government knows they are brotherhood. yet our own federal government, the department of justice under eric holder is intervening in these mosque cases around the country. locals say, hey, wait a minute. these guys are radical. this imam wants to employ shah arena law. -- sharia law. the department of justice under eric holder directly intervenes in dozens of cases. the obama administration has directly intervened in dozens of cases and rammed these radical mosques through. the fox is guarding the henhouse, and i go back to mohamed majid who i mentioned earlier. remember isna? hard to forget.

mohamed is a guy who last year at a white house -- i believe it was a ramadan dinner event. funny thing, i look at the guest list, and i look at the video of the event, and mohamed is sitting in the front row in front of president obama. president obama standing at the podium like i am now, and mohamed has a front and center seat. even worse for our country and our national security, mohamed majid and others of these muslim brotherhood-individuals, majid is advising our department of homeland security. not radical islam, countering violent extremism working group where mohamed has a direct pipeline to the department of homeland security. and he's advising them on their counterterrorism and middle east poll policies. and you wonder why our counterterrorism and middle east policies are in absolute shamblings. have you heard the term the fox

guarding the henhouse? look, i've got to tell you, i know i've got to wrap up, and i thank you for listening to me, and i thank you for having me here today. real quick, we're up against it, folks. i'm not an alarmist, folks. i've lived and breathed this stuff for 12 years. i've interviewed these guys, i've been in their mosques, their enclaves, i've listened to them. isn't that a crazy thought? a journalist getting on the ground and actually seeking them out to get it from the horse's mouth? instead of sitting in an air-conditioned think tank in d.c. and just -- they're peaceful, they're moderate. i'm here to tell you, we're up against it. the muslim brotherhood is here. their own documents say they are. so what are we going to do? real quick, i have two recommendations before i sit down. number one, brand this group. not brand them, make this group. john kerry, our friend at the state department, can surely do

this. a designated foreign terrorist organization. just like al-qaeda and just like the brotherhood's palestinian branch, hamas. designate them a terrorist organization. they are the modern godfathers of islamic terrorism. no brotherhood, no 9/11. number two, the brotherhood groups here in america, care, isna, etc. shut them down. that's very harsh, i know, and we have freedom of speech. but flee -- freedom of speech to me with terror ties to groups that hate america and want to destroy this country, when that's the case, think we might have a problem. i don't like the fifth column effect that's kind of forming. we had it in the cold war with soviet agents here. that was also alarmism, right? they weren't here. well, we have islamist agents of influence here. so i thank you, i hope you read

the book, and god bless you. thank you. [applause] >> we do have some time for q&a. as moderator, i want to take the liberty of asking the first question. >> better be easy. [laughter] >> i will. okay. i think it's very important that people understand the concept of -- [inaudible] >> yes. >> you explain what that concept is? >> i'd love to. sarah, that's a great question. and really, takia. it's an arabic word. in english it means deception. the muslim brotherhood, it's really the essence of their being. in short, you are allowed to lie to the infidel, to the nonmuslim, to the unbeliever. you are allowed to lie to

advance the cause of islam. that's where the suits and ties i discussed come in, the western education, the moderate tones. it's subversion. it's actually a genius strategy. they employ it, the new iranian president, rouhani -- peace in our time, right? ahmadinejad's gone, rouhani is here, he's our man. he'll give up their nuclear weapons program. takia. it's actually a shia-iranian thing, takia, originally. so it's really quite genius if you're an islamist because we're so naive. we are so naive, and we fail the first rule of war, folks, know your enemy. because i can assure you, they know us inside and out. they know our weaknesses. the muslim brotherhood, remember this, the muslim brotherhood and al-qaeda, they differ in tactics, yes. but the end game is the same.

shah arena law for one and all and the return of that pesky call faith. they want it. that's what they want. tactically, differences. i believe the brotherhood has the much more effective strategy. they're winning elections across the mideast and north africa. they're advising our government. that's a winning strategy. >> [inaudible] gateway drug. my question is why not the quran? you talk about no muslim brotherhood, no 9/11. what about no quran? yes. all of these concepts. >> in cays, you could say that. -- in ways, you could say that. by centuries, the muslim brotherhood. look, the brotherhood at the end of the day is a totalitarian movement. i think it's a seamless transition from naziism, communism to islamism. but i will say the brotherhood's

ideology, the ideology of martyrdom, of antisemitism, it's in the quran. it's in islam's cortex. the brotherhood didn't create it out of thin air. i'm talking about the dateway to terrorism today -- gateway to terrorism today. i'll give you an example, the boston bombers. i was there. how do we know it's controlled by the muslim brotherhood? the muslim-american society. not to get too in the weeds, the muslim-american society, our own government called the overt arm of the muslim brotherhood in america. they control this mosque. so the brotherhood, look -- and it's funny you like that because i have quranic verses in my book. antisemitic and pro-jihad verses. because, as you said, the brotherhood didn't get created out of thin air. there was plenty of ammo behind it. but when it comes to the

gateway, look, when you have a young -- and i've seen this so many times in my investigations, in my work, you have a young muslim in america or in europe and maybe they've never even read the quran, then they come under the sway of a charismatic brother hood imam, that's the gateway x. that's where the trek towards violence continues -- or begins, i should say. i don't know that the boston bombers were radicalized at that mosque, but i think it might be worth digging into considering the history of violence and radicalism. i'll tell you, the gateway drug, every al-qaeda member, every islamic jihadist you see today on the sunni side at least, man, the brotherhood's writings, teachings, ideology have been ingrained in their heads. and that's why i call it the gated -- gateway. >> [inaudible] >> mentioned that david gathered an army. how do you spell it?

>> well, can i talk about the bible here in washington, d.c., at the capital? [laughter] is that okay? i can talk about the god of abraham, isaac and jacob? what i said, and it applies to you today if you're here. king david, one of my favorite figures in the bible, probably one of our favorite figures in the bible, had a group of elite advisers, elite men around him, and he called them the men of is acar. and the bible says they knew the signs and the times, and they knew what to do about it. so we need a similar gathering, i believe, of men and women of isacar who know the signs, know the times, know what to do about it, are prepared to take action, be bold and speak out. and i'm telling you, you're not going to win any friends talking about this. i mean, this is not a popularity contest. five years ago, folks, i could have said, you know what? i want to work for cnn,bbc, of

all the cocktail parties in washington, d.c., i'll be an honored guest. i mean -- but i said, you know what? truth matters. and why am i here? why did god -- i'll say that word again -- why did god put me in this position, give me, a guy from northeast philadelphia, a platform for some reason? why? i have to use this thing for good. not for my own glory, my own gain, but for the good of this country and do what god mutt me on -- put me on this earth to do. and it's not going to win me any popularity. [applause] i am very popular, however, on al-jazeera, i've heard. >> thank you so much for your clarity on this issue. and i'm wondering, could you describe what enclaves are and where are they? >> yeah. great question. the enclave effect, i mention that the mega mosque is build, and a lot of times the people in the neighborhood say, hey, we

really don't like the call to prayer five times a day wafting through our windows. and all these women in burr cas and men in islamic garb, i don't know if i feel very comfortable living here. people look at their mosque and say, hey, that imam has links to hamas. i don't know if i feel comfortable living here. and people move out, and muslims move in. islamists move in. brotherhood types move in. and all of a sudden your polish, irish, jewish neighborhood is an islamist enclave where a brotherhood mega mosque is acting as the axis and the beehive. and there's a lot of buzzing around. now, the enclaves i've been in in europe, for instance, london, brussels, germany, paris, i talk about it in the book. we have enclaves in sweden where police are afraid to go. no-go with zones. now, this is europe. now, it's also the goal here.

and if you say, oh, come on, this is america. we'll always be strong. well, the brits say us the same thing -- said the same thing ten years ago, and now british soldiers are being we headed in the streets by islamic jihadists in east london. i've been in the neighborhood where i looked at a building that said shah arena court -- sharia court. come on in. of oh, you're having a marriage dispute? i wonder who wins, the man or the woman? [laughter] and the sharia judges, if they have their way, they will one day be judge, jury and executioner. there are some 80 sharia counts operating in great britain outside of british common law. british officials are aware it's going on. they've decided to say, hey, you control your enclave, you control your area, we'll butt out. that's the goal here. self-segregating enclaves.

it's a dangerous thing. americans and muslims have assimilated in large part. but, look, the way things are going with -- we have a radicalization problem here, i must add. we've had young american muslims, dozens over the past four years alone, arrested for plotting to terror on american soil. where are they being radicalized? prison? prison? mosques, schools. so i think we might want to keep an eye on it. someone, before the event, a friend of mine here said sign my book and sign it constant vigilance. pretty much sums it up. constant vigilance. >> [inaudible] should it be doing to counter the influence of the muslim brotherhood? >> first of all, make clear that the muslim brotherhood is an

enemy of american interests. make, make -- know your enemy, make abundantly clear this -- i would treat the muslim brotherhood how i treat the iranian regime. actually, the way we're treating them now -- [laughter] i take that back. make clear that the muslim brotherhood is an enemy of american interests. make it clear. i would have pulled the funding under morsi. i would have pulled it. verbalize it. verbalize it. like we used to with iran. any forces around the world that are kept down or persecuted, harassed by the muslim brotherhood in this country or overseas we should stand with. we should stand with coptic christians in egypt. [applause] i mean, look, now life was hairy for the cops under hosni mubarak, make no mistake. under morsi, it became intolerable. and now that morsi's gone, the

islamists are on the warpath, and they're blaming the christians in egypt and, of course, the zionists. they're blaming the christians. christian priests are being killed in the streets in sinai, rahed in cairo and alexandria. it's a big problem. this is the cradle of christianity, and we are taking a pass. i have not heard any obama administration officials speak out about this dilemma in the middle east. and really, folks, it started in iraq in 2003 where the ancient christian community there had to flee. you know, those jewish refugees in the middle east and north africa, some one million? we don't talk much about their right of return, but it happened. and now christians in the middle east are following a similar trajectory. stand with religious minorities, make clear that the muslim brotherhood that jihad is our way, dying in the way of allah,

does not represent american interests.

>> come down on the side of anti-democratic totalitarian forces in the middle east and north africa. there's a reason that at those protests in tahrir square, they were waving signs of president obama and calling them friends of the brotherhood, friends of terror. that's serious stuff. we're losing the egyptian people. i mean, it's as i said earlier, a schizophrenic society. they just voted in morsi in, now he's gone. they voted an islamist parliament in, and now that's topsy-turvy. >> does your book talk about how the transition was made from the

quran allows jews and christians to be protected people. how we went from that to anlation of jew -- annihilation of jews and christians as well? >> there are verses in the quran, and muslims will show you, yes, these verses exist. and they call jews the sons of apes and pigs, and one particularly pleasant one talks about the day of judgment. and this is in hamas' charter, by the way, the palestinian branch of the muslim brotherhood. their version of the constitution it says, o muslim, the day of judgment -- i'm paraphrasing -- the day of judgment will not come until allah or the trees cry out. there is a jew when the rocks cry out. wills a jew behind this tree --

there is a j well,ew behind thi. come and kill him. it's kind of a hop, skip and a jump to let's wipe israel off the map, in my opinion. now, i work with a lot of moderate muslims. they don't want jihad, they don't want sharia. and they say, look, my family was a muslim, i'm a secular muslim. god bless them. and they say, look, everything in the quran, it was in its time and place for the seventh century. it doesn't apply for today. man, i wish that was the mainstream interpretation, but i have to tell you, credible polls show that 10-15% of muslims around the world, that's about 160 million muslims, i believe, subscribe to the brotherhood, osama bin laden brand of islam. look, it is what it is, as i said earlier. and the theological ammo is absolutely there. i hope the moderate interpretation, i pray -- i

think everyone in this room prays that the moderate interpretation wins out. but i am not optimistic. because the brotherhood and their ilk are the gatekeepers not only in america, but around the world. i pray that it happens but, man, before we get there, it's going to be ugly, and you will have to really go through the quran with a fine-toothed comb. and there's going to be have to be a big, internal debate within islam. i don't think islam's ready for that. >> you also have the fourth generation -- >> okay. >> eric, you talked a little bit about the obama administration pulling that aid because they wanted the muslim brotherhood reinterjected into the political discussion, and i wanted to quote something to him. if he who has disobeyed the rule and because not repent that he must be killed, people must listen to him. that's referring to -- >> that this' the guy -- that's

the guy who talked about killing all jews. >> so 2k3weuing that being the case, what is the probability that accepts any -- >> kyle, that's a great question. ladies and gentlemen, think about it. the muslim brotherhood said, okay, we'll do your democracy thing. we'll do it, we'll participate in free and fair elections. we'll do it. so they did it., so they did it. now do you think the brotherhood's going to say, well, democracy kind of blew up in our face the first time, no pun intended, but let's try it again. no. they tried it once. it failed miserably. their dreams of making islam a sharia, islamic state have been dashed. they're not going to democratic route because they're going to say, yeah, if we win again, you'll just take it away from us again.

the same thing will happen again. i believe the brotherhood's going to go to back to their own ways. i pray it's not violence, and the track record as i lay out in the book in copious detail of violence is there. in the very least, they'll go back to maybe a more shadowy, sub subversive type presence. we don't know yet. and my friend, raymond stock, who's here, translated some brotherhood documents, if i'm not mistaken, about the brotherhood meeting. >> [inaudible] >> meeting in istanbul. >> right. a report on that. >> yes. and this was -- right, exactly. and great work. this was muslim brotherhood leaders from around the world including the west gathered in istanbul. turkey, by the way, we didn't get a chance to discuss erdogan and, essentially, the turkish muslim brotherhood, erdogan and his government. there was a gathering in

istanbul, and with muslim brotherhood leaders from around the world. visit the site daily. join groups like christians united for israel, like act for america, these are great groups. and with social media now, folks, it's nebraska been easier. never been easier. social media, you can reach out and meet like-minded folks who have similar concerns. and the last thing you need to do, you need to pray. i know that's a normal concept, but -- novel concept, but i think it works. >> [inaudible] for a long time. >> thank you. when you say, when you talk about the enclave, you are very familiar, i'm sure, with the mosque out in dulles. the imam of that mosque is obama's sharia adviser. there is a man named dade ramadan who is running for delegate in northern virginia. he's a member of that mosque. there is a congressman in

northern virginia who supports him. now, i do not believe there are moderate muslims because they all have the quran. so if we want to -- >> depends on if they follow the quran fundamentally. if they're following it to the t, all the violent verses. many do, but i've met many who don't. i mean, that's just a fact. >> [inaudible] >> i don't know david ramadan. >> i just want to say, um, it's a very, very difficult concept for americans to wrap their heads around because our country was founded on religious freedom. and we all came here because of religious liberty and religious freedom. so we have to be very, very careful, and there are, i know in the jewish faith, there are people that go into the synagogue each week, and they mumble their prayer, and they don't understand what's being said. so i want very much for us to distinguish between those that are radical and violent and those that are not.

because we really have got to appreciate what our founding fathers meant, and, you know, we are not saying go and -- [inaudible] yes, thanks. >> i mean, i think sarah and i, we probably work with thousands of muslims, i moo en, throughout -- i mean, throughout the years. and i'd be lying to tell you that i can't -- it's just not true for me to say every single muslim supports jihad, sharia and intolerance. it's just not true. i'm a christian. we call christianity the twice a year people, christmas and easter. there are muslims who are in the mosque once a year. to say every single muslim supports violence and terror is just not true. i don't know how many -- i've met thousands of muslims over the past 1 years, there are secular muslim leaders who want to live and let live. we need to try and reach out to

those folks and empower them wherever we can. [inaudible conversations] >> >> millions of muslims who pray five times a day who fast and observe all the obligations of islam who are not jihadists, who do not believe in these things, who simply pick and choose this that which they wish to ex'em exemplify -- [inaudible] and i can tell you that do not cede the territory to the muslims -- to the extremists. do not, do not give them ground. [applause] >> thank you. dr. raymond stock who is a real expert on islam and has lived in egypt for 20 years. >> you can't allow the brotherhood. there are muslims out there who don't want any parts of the brotherhood. i have met these people face to face who put their lives on the line.

in book i talk about an individual who i met in tulsa, oklahoma, who was a practicing muslim, but he wrote an article condemning al-qaeda. he went into his mosque the next day, he was chased out. call me crazy, i think we need to stand with that guy. i think we do. >> erick, thank you for all you do. i think a lot of us are concerned, obviously, with kerry, secretary kerry coming to israel, making his sixth trip in a very short time, and it seems like he's read the verse. what do you think the likelihood of this administration creating a new arab state in the region, what -- and how serious should we take this, you know, this initiative that they're -- >> well, i think they're very -- tommy, thank you for all you're doing, israel's biblical heartland. i call it judea and sumeria.

[applause] they want to establish a palestinian state. without a doubt, this administration is hell bent on establishing a palestinian state. that is without a doubt 900. -- 100. i think a lot of it depends on what the israeli government decides to do. i personally think the timing is not right. i don't think it's ever going to be right, my personal opinion. but especially now with this so-called arab spring, israel's borders are on fire from syria to egypt to lebanon to gaza. israel's going to give up land? it's crazy. and not only that, let me say give up that land? judea and sumeria? everyone in here owns a bible, everybody watching at omahas a bible. page through it. the period before king david, all of it unfold in judea and

sumeria. this is the hand of eab ham, isaac and jacob. the matriarchs, the patriarchs. king david, as a matter of fact, his kingdom for the first seven years was in judea. now, to me -- i'm not jewish, but to me, wow, if i'm jewish, i have a real connection with that land. and i'm a christian, and i have a connection with that land because i believe in the bible, i believe in abraham, isaac, jacob, david, moses, joshua. for israel to give up that land, that's theological, but i don't even need to go there about it because from a strategic standpoint, i have been in judea and sumeria with tommy, i have stood on the mountains of israel, and guess what i saw a few miles from me? men gur yang airport. ben gur yang airport. now, if a palestinian state is established, the wing of the

moderate palestinian authority created by arafat, they will take rockets and missills, they will place them on those mountain, and they will make a beeline for ben-gurion airport. from a security strategic perspective, crazy. this is an issue i'm very passionate about, as you can tell. so i didn't mean to go after too much, but, man, for israel to give up judea and sumeria at any point in history, especially this point in history, that's crazy. [applause] [inaudible conversations] we>> we have a friend who was pt of a school where the children were attending, and another, a teacher wanted to bring in a woman dressed in a burka to teach the quran and the prayers. i'm mentioning this so that we can address our members of congress with -- because i

thought it was a great approach. she said, okay, if they come in and they want to teach the quran, then i want to come in, i have a jewish friend, and i'm a christian, and we want to come in and teach the bible and teach about praying the prayers of she bat and praying the christian prayers. can't do that. why not? we have freedom of religion. if you're going to do one, you must allow for us to come in and do the same and shut it all down. wonderful. >> i think that's a great point you make and, man, i've reported on this how around the country we have, you know, textbooks in this country, public school textbooks, you'd be alarmed but some of the things that are being taught about israel, about islam, the history of islam. give you an example, a book that was called the arab studies notebook, i believe, arab world studies notebook, reported on it a few years ago. it was, thankfully, pulled from

public schools, but it taught that muslims helped discover america. [laughter] and public school students were learning this at public schools around the country. now, look, let's get serious. and, i mean, so it's problematic, to say the least. >> erick, one of the most remarkable books i ever read was actually written by an unlikely ally. there was a gay american journalist, actually, who he left the united states because he considered it an oppressive society towards what he felt. and he ended up moving to europe. and long story short, he ended up leaving amsterdam because he found that the muslim community there, he was like, oh, my gosh -- >> [inaudible] >> yes, sir. but over in europe they want to kill me. and i'm wondering, has there ever been any subsequent reporting about that? and it would seem that would be something that the liberal community in the united states would jump upon, but you don't

see that. i was just wondering if you would care -- >> i have a whole chapter in the book, in the brotherhood called occupy shah arena, why the left -- shah sharia, why the left helped the brotherhood. people might say, what? i document in the book this kind of unholy alliance that's developed 2007 -- between the hard core left and islamists. now, strange bed fellows on the first. the left supports homosexual rights, abortion, multiculturalism. everything islamist, look, islamists are murdering gays, killing them, executing them. so strange bed fellows in ways. i document in the book the occupy wall street group which was socialist, anti-american to their core, the islamists from

the iranian regime to the brotherhood, hamas, hezbollah, the american islamist groups like care, they were cheering for occupy wall street. it's amazing. i have all these statements. i couldn't believe it, it astounded me. khamenei was giving statements whole wholeheartedly behind occupy wall street, we stand with you. ahmadinejad, i believe it was ahmadinejad, we are the 99%. ahmadinejad. [laughter] i said, wow, i think i'm on to a trend here. i kept -- when you're writing a book, you keep digging, and, man, you discover one thing, and you go down another rabbit hole, i guess, and -- and the research, it's amazing. what i found, i said i'm going to research in this, and i couldn't believe it. i laid out -- hamas. care, his what, all of them -- hezbollah, all of them were supporting occupy wall street. so at the end of the day i figured out -- and they weren't supporting the tea party, by the way.

[laughter] no statements in support of the tea party. so at the end of the day, i figured out that they share a common enemy, despite their differences. they share a hatred of judeo-christian western civilization. they have a common foe. the enemy of my enemy in my friend. and all though today dis-- although they disagree on a lot, they will work together to undermine the west, israel. now, remember, at the end of the day if the islamists got their way, the left would be the first ones with their heads on the chopping block. it happened in 1979 in iran under the ayatollah hoe maybeny. concern khomeini. they supported the ayatollah's rise, six months later they were locked up or executed. cautionary tale for the left today, don't with so -- don't be so short sighted and naive. i'm not optimistic you'll change your mind. >> okay. i just want to end with this.

israel has a very robust gay community. as you know, in iran and in gaza, as ahmadinejad said, we have no homosexual said, there are no gays in iran. [laughter] when israel's gay community wanted to participate in a gay rights parade in europe, they would not let them in because of the occupation. so this is perfectly illustrating erick's point. there is a horrible kind of collusion between the extreme left and between the islamists -- >> they've all talked about the acquittal of george zimmerman. >> anyway, thank you so much. i want everybody to buy in this book. go to amazon.com. [applause] we'll have to have a bigger room. thanks -- [inaudible] [applause]

[inaudible conversations] >> you're watching booktv. nonfiction authors and books every weekend on c-span2. >> thank you all for your interest in a great story about a remarkable president. i was really happy to be able to write this book, because ronald reagan is perhaps one of our best presidents ever. and we wanted to make sure that children like you understood more about what made him so special. because one of you one day could be president of our country. and we want to make sure that we have strong leaders who understand how important it is to have ideas and how important

it is to communicate. ronald reagan was known as the great communicator. you're already a off on a great start, tommy. and we want to make sure that you mapped during his -- you happened during his presence. hi, please join us. thank you. hi, honey. so this summer just a few weeks ago this book was first published. so you guys are really some of the first young people to be able to read "the remarkable ronald reagan." he was also a family friend of ours. when my husband's father was a coach for the l.a. rams out in california, ronald reagan was governor, and he would come to the football plaqueses. so he -- practices. so he became a family friend. so there's a history there with our family, and one of the reasons why i wanted to tell his story, because i do think young people need to know about the remarkable ronald reagan. so what i'd like to do is to ask you all about to think about what you want to be when you grow up.

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highlight magazine, so you might recognize the artwork. ronald reagan became a lifeguard, and he saved 77 people. you know how we know this? he had a stick where he would make 77 marks for each person he pulled out of the live. he went off to be an actor in hollywood. he had a friend who said why don't you go try, he was really nervous, but he made 53 films. he also was a radio announcer, and he would sometimes do baseball games where he was not even sitting there, but he would get the information over the wire, and he would describe it so beautifully, it sounded just like he was there. ronald reagan played football at eureka college, and one of his other dreams was to someday be a cowboy. eventually, he bought a ranch so he could be like a cowboy whenever he wanted. when world war ii happened, he decided that he wanted to go and

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read. great. okay. >> thank you for redding. >> thank you. >> we're going to actually go right over here, we have a table set up. i see you've got a book already. we can have ms. allen sign it for you. >> perfect. thanks, guys. follow me over to the table. >> you're watching c-span2 with politics and public affairs weekdays featuring live coverage of the u.s. senate. every weekend the latest nonfiction authors and books on booktv. you can see past programs and get our schedules at our web sites, and you can join in the conversation on social media sites. >> what are you reading this summer? booktv wants to know. >> well, i have several books. one, one that i have that i'm currently reading is "genius in the design." it's about the rivalry between

work bev and berle who built, basically, designed and rebuilt, etc., the st. peters. and the reason is my niece just had her confirmation, and i was her sponsor, and i promised her a trip to the vatican, so we are going to go. the second book is rome, of course, by robert hughes. so those are the two that i hope i yet done in the -- i get done in the next two week. then if i have time, i want to read the nate silver book, and identify got them all downloaded i think it's called "the signal and the noise." it's about predictionings. of course, nate silver was the one who, you know, decided the players and helped to get on them to get a winning team based on probability of hits, etc.,

and he's now applied that science of probability to politics, and so he -- so i'm interested to hear what he has to say about probability and predictions. there are several other books that i have, but one of them is -- i'm reading it right here -- it's on my ipad. it's "beauty." and it's really about the philosophy of beauty in our lives and what type of impact it has and whether it's really important. so i'm interested to read that. and i also have a stephen hawking book, "theory of everything," that i've wanted to read for a while, but that's been on my reading list for a bit, and i still haven't gotten to it. so three or four books, if i'm lucky in the next month, i'll get to finish them up and read them. >> let us know what you're

reading this summer. tweet us @booktv, post it on our facebook page or send us an e-mail at booktv@c-span.org. >> next on booktv from the 201 3 book fair, a conversation about drug laws. karl hart, author of "high price: a neuroscientist's journey of self-discovery that challenges everything you know about drugs and society." this is about an hour and 15 minutes. .. okay. is everybody hearing me? hi, how are you? dr. hart, you're laying a really heavy one on us here with this book, "high price." there's a lot i