i have heard folks who don't think like you say their reason is because the laws are written against the black folks and the trucks and the -- >> the sentencing guidelines. you know, shelby steele, a great professor at stanford and also a great published author writes a lot about this you know, it's not the sentencing guidelines, the reasons why you have a disproportionate number. it's not. it's because we have had -- in a talk about daniel patrick moynihan's report, the moynihan report that he wrote to

president johnson. and the whole report is about how we saw a breakdown in the black family and simultaneously parallel to this breakdown he was seeing a rise among blacks on welfare. he said, this is a disturbing trend, and he said, i am seeing a lot of black families headed by single black women. i'm very concerned. at the time it was around 20 percent of black homes headed by single black women. today you have -- on sorry, the illegitimate birthrate is about 23% born to unwed mothers. today it's 73 percent. the reason why we have more is not because of sentencing guidelines for crack verses powder cocaine. it's because you have 73 percent of black babies born into homes without fathers. you don't have a marriage to support and welcome the child.

he have the failed politics by democrats who think that they should just throw money at it. our system, not have been in the home, no foreigners. i'm not saying that white americans are on welfare. this is the number of people that will tell you there are more whites on welfare. true, but blacks represent a small a portion of the population, and we have a disproportionate number on welfare. that is not in powering. for a look at what is happening in the 60's, we have not done much better. we've got wars. how is this in power in the black americans? c-span: had a big hit to the point, 40 percent of children are born out of wedlock in the country. some 3 percent. where did this come from? >> two things. we don't -- we don't talk about

how it's great to get married. blogs of family. c-span: have you done it? >> i have no children because i'm not married. so i have not done the family thing. and been raised by two loving parents. at thing somewhere along the line we, you know, as a country have said marriage is not sexy anymore. and the numbers are bearing the south. we have an education gap. of talking about black americans. overall 40 percent -- you just highlighted the 40 percent of babies born out of wedlock. that is really what it is. you're not doing kids a favor, and in not doing our country a favor. c-span: how do you change that? >> by talking. when i was crawling up and went to school we talked about the -- teachers could talk about traditional family values and

not be accused of being non politically correct. it sounds very basic, but i don't understand why on a very fundamental level we're not talking to little plants about family. really. in maybe the family is changing, but what can we talk about family and sex education. we need to bring that back into the law school's. i remember learning about the biology of the body and all that in middle school. the very scientific way. it was reinforced at home, but before going to talk about sex education we should also be talking about abstinence. hey. they're is a great way to not get pregnant, not have sex, and there's nothing wrong with that. c-span: let's go back to your life for of a bit. you say you are based in richmond. where did you go to get your undergraduate degree?

>> i received my undergraduate at georgetown university katydid to stop? >> i did not. i went -- on wanted to be an actress. i have aspirations for being on the big screen. i got my master's in fine arts and theater at virginia commonwealth university in richmond. c-span: why did you not to want to be an actress? >> the reality of that was a little tougher than i anticipated. i did not like starving in the art. my plan be was journalism. but i came to d.c. and in turn to at cnn. the rest is history. i ended up staying here. c-span: how long were you at cnn? >> just about a -- i did an. freelancer. maybe six months from eight months. c-span: after that? >> abc news as an officer reporter here. i left and was one of the first

folks to be hired by the fox news channel when it started up their d.c. bureau. i cover the state department when madeleine albright was secretary of state. so tho int. not always fun because we've were kind of the stepchild of all the networks, the cable networks because we were a conservative venture trying to break into the scene. c-span: did you have to be conservative? >> not all. fox was definitely an equal opportunity employer in every aspect of that -- c-span: how long did you work there? >> a year-and-a-half. c-span: what do you do now? >> i am a public relations consultant. i'm pulling a little bit from everything. my acting, my journalism. c-span: i saw somewhere, you did some work for the republican national committee. >> i help them with the website

that has not been launched. and now reach website. it has not yet launched. c-span: you sounded frustrated. >> i was. i am fresh trinidad the rnc did not want to before the election. they claim that they did not have funding, which kind of boggles the mind when you think of the rnc. they're raise a lot of money. i think that if they had launched it with activities behind it could have had a meaningful impact. the decision was made not to. i think that just speaks to what i was talking to you about earlier. we can't get lips service. now we are the party of inclusion. we really mean it because we lost. it was an epic fail in my opinion. ♪ -- c-span: several months ago we had the executive director and general counsel for the congressional black caucus.

let's watch a little bit of what she said and get your reaction. >> there are summer youth job programs, all types of proposals that help. and that is exactly what we need right now. the economy is on the rebound. if we add more targeted solutions we would move further down the road. right now it's a very divisive congress. hard to get anything accomplished. c-span: that was back in april of 2012. what do you think when you hear? would you be behind the president's jobs bill? >> i would not be. i think it was a bunch of poppycock. because the president's, 400 billion, little lover. more funding from congress to support his jobs bill which was going to give -- create jobs for

what i would consider as winners. everyone else would lose. we don't need more money and more spending for jobs. will we be in my opinion, and i think the republicans have done a good job articulating this, reducing the number of regulations that are making businesses very petrified of hiring people. case study number one is obamacare. i read an interesting article a couple of weeks ago in the "wall street journal" about how many businesses now are reducing their work hours for employees to below 30 hours so that they don't have to pay. and now have to pay health insurance under the affordable care act. so the way you create jobs -- and right now we know that businesses are sitting on top of 2 trillion in cash. they don't know what this president is going to arrow at the next with more expenditures like dodd-frank, the consumer

financial protection bureau which was part written on the dodd-frank. i have clients in financial-services. i know that is making them very nervous. people are just not hiring companies because they just don't know. if they are going to be able to have the money on hand to deal with the compliance cost of all these regulations, especially small businesses. right now we're waiting to see if congress and the president can work out something on the bush tax cuts expiring in january. many people know that $250,000 is what a lot of small businesses are in. and they file their taxes as individuals. they're certainly not going to higher taxes will go out. when i hear things like that, i just don't think the solution is more money. the president threw money at this problem. unemployment is still have about a percentage.

c-span: what do you think of the black caucus as an organization? >> it has become relevant in my opinion. because it -- the better question is, what has the black caucus done for blacks with respect to education, incarceration rates. we just talked about that. c-span: what power does it have? >> they were founded in 1970, 71 to be the conscience of the congress got to hold president accountable and also make sure that policies are passed to benefit black americans. right now i'm going to give you an example. it is nothing more than the par layer if that is a word, of black victimization. the current head of the congressional black caucus read before the election when i was attending that town hall event

that they had, he gave a couple of interviews, one in particular to their rick publication. he said, if president obama was right and unemployment was what it was an up 14%, he said that blacks and members of the congressional black caucus would be marching around the white house. he said but, and he was almost laughing. it seemed like they were joking. you know, the president knows we will give deference to him. you would give him a break in some new words. you tell me how that body is not a relevant. if he actually demands that they are not holding president obama accountable to the same standards as previous presidents because of the color of the skin . unemployment is the highest it has been for black americans

since 1984 almost. almost double the national average of about 7%. and to me you and i have spoken about problems plaguing blacks. going back to the 60's. we have a problem. a lot -- on seeing a trend of babies being born out of wedlock. where are we today? why is it that members of the congressional black caucus, black representatives to congress, why aren't they looking at policies to empower blacks and prevent this from happening? not policies of victimization saying what is the government going to give me next. that is not in power in. c-span: right after the election was all done croupy mention, a black website ran a piece and then they ran in the newspaper itself by hegemonism keith

harrison. a journalism professor at howard . a black college year. i just want to read some of 47 in the your reaction. he said this is a letter to president obama, congratulations on your election. you no doubt know how much we black people appreciate the historical significance of your successful presidential campaign. if you don't, search the numbers. now, mr. president, how about some payback? he says, this is not an unreasonable request. just ask women, gays, and immigrants. for women, and your first day in office to sign belly ledbetter fair pay act. vatican the birth control bandit the guarantees women access to free contraceptives. for days, you announced an abc your support for same-sex marriage. he began granting work permits for some of them. a couple of things.

one, he never says what he wants or what black people should have . but do you know what black people want in a way of payback? >> i don't know what keith is talking about. i know what conservative blacks would want. i would like to see the president be more supportive of school vouchers. disproportionately stuck in failing schools in urban cities. that is what i'd like to see. but that is something that ironically president obama has consistently been against with school vouchers and school choice. but i think the article speaks to the fact that this president got 95 percent of the black vote this time around as well as in 2008. what policies as he put in place that have uplifted black americans economically? he is pandered to every other group.

katie let me reverse that and go back. mitt romney said a couple of weeks ago that this president pandered to all of these groups and lay down what he did. the republicans went crazy reacting against it. we have to care about people. >> let's back it up and talk about what romney actually said. i think he should stop talking. the reason why the president one is because he gave gifts to all his constituent groups. sorry. i think black people would appear to differ. i don't think he is never given -- president obama has not given blacks in the gives. i think that was the wrong choice of words. here -- and the reason why republicans were our races because once again mitt romney shows he is out of touch and uses indelicate language. here's what it was. president obama exploited

different demographic groups. he exploited them to his own benefit. what he did was the amnesty for latinos and hispanics, he did an executive order and said if you're under 30 and had been in this country five years you can have a pass to staying here. he stopped short of calling it citizenship. we will give you amnesty. you went through the litany of things that keeps talks about, the way the president exploited different groups. here is where romney failed. he did not even bother to talk to the groups. a great starting point to a real relationship with black americans because mitt romney actually said, here is what i promise you, school choice in education, entrepreneurship, lower taxation. believe it or not to know where i come from, there was a time when black entrepreneurship, my

grandfather owned a dry cleaners. he was driving in a middle-class back in the fifties and forties. but these the things that mitt romney was talking about. family values between a black americans are for. when you pull black americans there are against a marriage. but jen he was talking about these things. when children are born and sustained families, intact family units, the chances of being successful, not down. so he was actually talking about things that we have yet to hear, out of the president's bauhaus' with respect to black americans and the kind of gives he would promise them. c-span: would you -- you mentioned your grandfather, and they're is a story there. grandfather -- would you give it to us? >> my grandfather on the dry cleaners. he immigrated from the west

indies. i did not know i'm very long. he died when i was about four. i think it was for. muller brother had been born in my other brother was not even in this world yet my grandfather was gunned down in his dry cleaners to his place of business might to young black kids to try to rub. seventy-one. he went to reach for a gun. it was funny. i wrote about this article, the second amendment, actually. possession, gun laws. and he went to reach for his gun and shot him before he could do anything with it. katie what impact that have and your family? >> i would say devastating, particularly on my mother.

she is the youngest of her family, the last person standing . so both my uncles are deceased. my grandfather is obviously dead. my grandmother died about ten years ago. so she's the only one left on her immediate family side. i have written about it a couple of times, but pretty devastating affect on my mother. very close to her father. of course she wanted him to be able to live to see her grandchildren. c-span: he started off talking about blogs. how often do you write? >> i tried to write once a week. sometimes a more inspired. c-span: the difference, you can write this block input your headline on it. of all the blogs you ever written. it is conservative black chick.

does anyone get in your face over that? >> all the time. your republican. what do you have to do identity politics. the last time i looked i'm conservative, black, and a woman. would night, self conservative black chick. is just stating the obvious. i give more beat up for the name by conservatives. and sometimes liberals will get in my face. do you think you are? we get it. what you have to be so obvious? it's funny. i'm glad people are talking about it. i did not know a little name like that could cause some much discussion. most people actually like reading it. ♪ -- c-span: the biggest hit you go on the website. >> it's hard to the isolate one. i can give you one example from recent memory. the one i wrote about that

rodney deserved the shellacking that he got. c-span: why did you write it? and get it from reading some of your bonds. you want to -- you were not the big romney fan. >> the new gingrich delegate. i headed up his effort to get people delegates in d.c. and washington d.c. to get him on the ballot. c-span: why did you like them? >> because i remember seeing the way that the speaker handled himself during the 90's when he was speaker of the house and how he dealt with president clinton on welfare reform, balanced budgets. and i felt as though with the speaker he would be tough on foreign policy, stand up to our enemies abroad and also be physically responsible at home and really get our house in order. he proved that he did not have

the metal pin that he did not have the metal to go the distance. c-span: i have one of your blocks from april 11th, 2012. it's time for women to reject feminism and kiss peter panda by . >> yes, it is. c-span: in an attempt to explain why they're finding themselves living lives of solitude, all the singhalese -- single ladies thinking i'd buy into the writer's lot of crap. strong. an endless amount of ink try to convince yourself and single women everywhere that they're happy living hard lives of solitude which could not be further from the truth. what fired you up? >> and trying to remember. atlantic monthly her something.

the article i was referencing. what fire me up is that we do have a lot of women in their late 30's and early 40's who were highly educated. some people would say over the educated. we are single, coming up short. i think that when i think back to my mother's generation, well, they have fewer choices as far as career skill. most of them, the majority were married if it wanted to be. with our generation there wanted us to take the advantage of the opportunities before us that they forgot to go back to basics. it's what i told you earlier. marriages okay. it's actually a fun thing. what bothers me with feminism is that you can do it all. have a baby without a man, bring home the bacon, cook it up in the pan. the fact is, you just can't. i don't think you can be as ceo

of any company and have it all. you can't have will family and being good, the same time. c-span: while some women may genuinely want to live alone, i believe that most women don't want to live in solitude or be an independent. >> i believe that. if you put women in a confessional situation, even if they don't necessarily believe in god. whoever they put confidence in the, if you were to ask a woman, do you really like, do you want to be alone, and i'm talking more -- whether your heterosexual, whenever most women want to be with someone. c-span: this i would like to have you explain. during my senior year of college are was forced to take a feminist criticism seminar as part of my honors english major and hated it.

>> all real -- all we read for the semester was criticism and critiques about how shakespeare was a misogynist. d.h. lawrence was a misogynist. at thing gibson was thrown in there. all the classics were somehow bad man in the way they portray women. i remember being in the discussion as we were trying to deconstructs the classics. katie did you have to take this course? >> yes. there were two seminars they offered. we sat around. i remember looking at the professor. i just don't think shakespeare was trying to throw gasoline on women. he gave women voices. macbeth. and so at the end of the class what really bothered me -- and we had to read a lot of criticism by lesbian writers. why did we have to keep reading all this stuff?

that is a redundancy. i just don't get it. at the end of the class a professor tells us, i just want to tell you all, i'm gay and i just wanted to know that. and thinking to myself, one should tell us at the end of the class? it might have been nice to know that at the beginning because and i would have known why she was shoving all of this criticism, throat. it was really -- and i know we're all subjected and come from a subjective place about where we were raised and who we are. my parents were paying good money for me go to georgetown university and i had to take a class which i felt was slanted and biased. i -- feminism as a bunch of garbage. it's written to make -- to brainwash women into believing they can do in on the wrong. the world -- not all men a woman

. c-span: all right. we are almost out of time. the final question, not that we want to start 2016 already, but give us an example of the kind of candidate that you think on the republican side could win in 2016? >> that i would like. 2016 was a long ways away. c-span: you don't need more than one. >> i like jeb bush. he is a white knight, but he has done great things on inclusion. a lot of people across demographics like him. i like alan west, but i don't think right now he can get elected on a presidential ticket. i think marco rubio is to everyone is talking about, but he would be interesting canada for 2016. it's too early. i don't know. we have an ally of the night not know about.

c-span: we're out of time. crystal wright with the conservative black chick website and the principle of the baker right group public-relations firm. we thank you. >> for a dvd copy of this program, call 1-877-662-776. for free transcripts or to give us your comments about the program, visit us. ..

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