immigration reform is because they hate you. obama could have done this during his first two years. but he wants that issue to divide people. so coming to an agreement on this, everyone basically agrees on the basic proposition that i am stating, which is that you cannot continue a free flow of immigration and a welfare system. ..

and like to reflect the right? >> guest: it is not necessary to compartmentalize anything left or right but everyone knows what i mean when i say it. be objection to the using binary terminology of left or right and that is true in some cases. where does libertarian meet liberal? there are issues where there is more complexity and three dimensions. when you are talking about certain issues it's easier short end is a separate left from right and we know what i am talking about is conservative and republican party versus democrats and the liberal movement. she is a useful distinction. not all encompassing distinction but i am never a fan that we can't use basic terminology because the reality is too

complex. words are too simplistic for reality in general. at a certain level you simplify for convenience's sake. >> host: monique in indiana university. >> caller: good afternoon. thank you for doing the in-depth interview talking about issues ranging from immigration to political environment, business and other issues. my question is how can a black american woman who is conservative and christian be able to make a difference impacting political and business and social life when every time you speak your viewpoint you get attacked by others who feel that because you are a black woman you should hold certain views like you should be a democrat or you should be pro choice or you should be ok for food stamps or government programs. i did not choose to be a

conservative because of my home upbringing because as time went on and i educated myself and learn and read those viewpoints became a part of who i am and it just happens republicans share their view points but i get attacked all the time when i discuss my viewpoint on social issues, government business, environment issues and i feel i am not allowed to be who i am. i have to conform to what they feel i should be which is democrat woman who believes in the viewpoints of the democrat party. >> host: what do you do in bloomington? >> guest: i a student. >> host: what year are you? >> guest: >> caller: as senior. >> host: where did you grow up? >> caller: i grew up in new york at family heritage from the caribbean and live in florida. my view points haven't been shaped by my environment because they are mostly democratic view

points. this is who i am based on my education and experience and i feel i get attacked because of these viewpoints i hold. >> host: that is the second self identify african-american woman conservative we have had. >> guest: congratulations, that is very cool. as far as being attacked, this is what i talk about it "bullies: how the left's culture of fear and intimidation silences americans," this is the life we live, no way to avoid it and one thing i learned from andrew breitbart, walked toward the fire. being who you are as offensive to some people. it shouldn't be, but you can't do anything to change that so you might as well embrace it and recognize folks won't agree with you, that is okay, some folks are jerks and when they attack you for being who you are it is not out of bounds to attack them and say you are a nasty person for attacking me for my character as opposed to disagreeing with me on my political opinions. i am glad you are thinking about those issues and i encourage you not to be cowed into silence by folks who think you ought to

think a certain way. >> host: ben shapiro west number one on his favorite books the complete works of william shakespeare. paul e-mails in which are your favorite shakespeare plays and why? >> guest: hamlet is my favorite, the complexity and use of language obviously. dangling between heaven and hell is evident throughout the play, wonderful. also intricately plotted. everyone underestimates shakespeare's plots and hamlet is intricately plotted and beautifully worded. king lear is an incredible play. mainly because it struggles, it is a religious play, struggles with the great question of all religious believers which is how can the university so cruel land god so kind? how can nasty things happen in such a universe where there is supposed to be god the justice? that is a question well worth asking and perhaps the only question worth asking and it

asks it in a beautiful way that feels the lifting at the end because you get the feeling that justice is not done, there is cosmic completeness to the entire play. i am also, recently become a fan of korea alatas because it is a fascinating taken democracy, there may be as the >> i know where the public is the villain and that is a fascinating way to structure a play where the public is actually going after coriolanus and he betrays rome and is he right or wrong? shakespeare posits small questions and does it in such a view of humanity that all of his tragedies, more than comedies, all his tragedies pause as we can reach for the stars even when we are bound by human constraints and that is something at the root of my

politics and personal life. >> host: ben shapiro is our guest on in depth. thank you. >> guest: thanks so much. >> c-span created by america's cable companies in 1979 brought to you as a public service by your television provider. welcome to annapolis on booktv. with the help of our comcast cable partners for the next hour we will explore the history aaron literary scene of maryland's capital city. coming up we will learn about the day president lincoln walked through the streets of the south, the reason he was in an apples or passed through annapolis is he was on his way to the peace conference at hampton roads. >> to understand the roots of the area. >> annapolis was eclipsed by baltimore and was desperate. they needed economic security and didn't have it. >> we look and sit-down with rebecca morris to learn about the perot camps of an apple was.

>> the largest one was at the naval academy. annapolis is the claim to fame for the civil war, union prisoners of war who had been released on parole by the confederates. in june of 1862 they set up three role camps. one was jefferson barracks in missouri. one was camp jason, ohio and the largest one was originally at the naval academy and men who were paroled would be brought to the exchange point or the release point on the east coast at city point, va. so all the paroled men would be brought there, loaded on to transports, sales up the bay and put ashore in annapolis. if they were all in one place, all in one camp it was easy enough when they declared an exchange of a thousand prisoners you could find them and send them back to their regiments.

as the parolees began coming in to annapolis in the spring of 1862 there wasn't any room to put them. every square inch of open space in annapolis was occupied with a tent so they moved the polk camp out two miles southwest of annapolis near spa creek. they thought this would be far enough from town to keep the men out of trouble, out of the saloons and downtown annapolis and it would give them a lot of room to expand but as it turned out two miles was not that far to walk to go back to annapolis to get into trouble and also pretty much ravaged the farm in the area. even though they were out in the country and had all this room, they were throwing trash

from the camp outside the fence. there was so much trash that it was actually more practical to remove the camps than try to clean it up to expand. in august of the king 63 the camp moved to its final location which was two miles outside of annapolis almost do wes. that is where the community of parole is now. the kids -- decamps varying conditions. according to the population the number of men that were there. that varied widely. after a large battle you have an influx of 10,000 parole men. they had enough of everything but usually not a lot of notice given to the camp when thousands

of prisoners would be flooding in and in a lot of cases men were sleeping outdoors, didn't have enough food or supplies so it was feast or famine. the problems of the parole camp because these were northern soldiers they had access to their own representatives, their own senators and if the conditions were bad they would write home and the senators and representatives, commissary general prisoners, the complaints went full circle and came back to the port commander of the camp who was doing his best but very difficult to manage a population, also one of the main problems with the camp was there were never enough guards. some men found it easy to go over the fence and leave when they wanted to. at one point a soldier wrote

there were three -- there were 3,000 parole men in camp guarded by 90 men. the problem was the commissary general of prisons who oversaw all of these parole camps had no troops to call on himself. he had to borrow from another regiment and the other regiments were not always able or willing to give food to up. shows throughout all three iterations of camp parole it was difficult to keep men under some kind of control, house of the solutions. of course and apple this as with a lot of army towns progressively got more undisciplined as time went on. by 1864 it was one soldier described it as the worst example of an army town. before the war he realized at

annapolis was the market town of 3,000 people. by 1864 there were squabbles, solutions, murder was not uncommon. civilians were sound -- found with their throats cut and their clothes gone because the men in the parole camp were trying to get civilian clothes to desert. how long a man was in camp had nothing to do with how soon he was released. they released by regiment to make it easier to take groups of men back to their own units. sometimes those units could be hundreds of miles away. as there were no guards to keep an eye on the camp there were very few guards with these men taking them back to the battle. so you might have one or two guards trying to escort 100 or

200 parole prisoners who had been exchanged and being sent back to fight again and it was very common by the end of the trip back the guard would have a lot fewer men than he started out with. they were just sort of disappearing along the way. they didn't want to go back and fight again. there was also a problem trying to get men back to the right regiment. a lot of men who couldn't read or write had no idea what regimen they belong to. when they were brought into the camp all the information was taken from them, names and birthplace and what regiment were you in, they would say i don't know. so it was a constant struggle to find out where these men belong to. some of them live. maybe they had shown power is in the face of the enemy. allowed themselves to be captured so they didn't get shot. they didn't want to get sent back to the regiment where people knew what they had done so they lied about their

regiment. you see a lot of letters from regimental commanders saying i got 100 men yesterday, none of them are mine. wire you sending me these people? we surrendered in april of 1865 and within a couple months the parole cam in an apple this was essentially gone. a tour down the buildings, offered the wood for sale. polk remaining patients in the annapolis hospital were sent to the convalescentall remaining p annapolis hospital were sent to the convalescent hospital in other areas. it is not just the big battles like gettysburg and antietam. civil war history in our backyard, maybe the folks that live around the parole community go out and dig around and see if

they can't find artifacts because until recently, before the shopping centers were built, people would find artifacts everywhere and i don't know whether too many of those are left yet but the history is there. i want people to know about it. >> booktv's visit to annapolis, md. continues with the help of our local cable partner comcast. we looked at the rich cultural and literary history of the area. prior to the civil war maryland had more free african-american citizens than any other state. in annapolis, 400 of the 4,000 inhabitants were free african-americans. next we will hear from rock toews, author of "lincoln in annapolis, february 18, '65". >> "lincoln in annapolis, february 18, '65," i wrote it

because while lincoln was in an apple is, virtually nobody knew that, was aware of that and i have always been interested in lincoln and i always had an interest in annapolis history so my curiosity was was there for a time when lincoln was in annapolis and i found out he had been by looking at the chronology of his life. the reason he was in annapolis or passed through annapolis was he was on his way to the peace conference at hampton roads. the normal routes which would have been a sale down the potomac river was not available because the potomac river was iced over. chesapeake bay was open so he took a train from washington to annapolis and got on a steamer and went to the conference and returned the next day.

lincoln really had no intention of attending or going to the peace conference at hampton roads. it was only after risking a telegram from general grant expressed regret that there was no american official to meet them, specifically he thought it would be a nice gesture if lincoln was able to meet them so lincoln gets that telegram and at 8:30 in the morning on the morning of february 2nd, no intention prior to that of being involved with the peace conference, and that the telegram and decides that moment to go, and by 11:00 he was on a train to annapolis. nobody knows he even left so it was a wonderful anecdotes about john nicolet, lincoln's principal secretary. he is sitting in his office

which adjoins lincoln's office and one of his assistants comes in and says where is the president gone and he says what do you mean? the president is right on the other side of this door, his assistants as know he is not. i just saw him leave the white house. so he stands up and opens the door and is astounded to find lincoln gone. the interesting thing that happened while he was here was the senate, maryland legislature was debating the thirteenth amendment which was of course the amendment to abolish slavery. it had been brought to a annapolis the previous day, one day earlier by lincoln's secretary of state, william seward who had been passed in the u.s. congress, had passed it january 31st so on february 1st,

steward, on routes to the peace conference comes through annapolis for the same reason, because he can't go down the potomac river either and he brings with him a copy of the thirteenth amendment and urges while these here, urges governor bradford to convene the legislature and have them ratify it which would have made maryland the first state to ratify the thirteenth amendment. the senate decided to discuss the ratification of the amendment. so they were discussing it, deliberating over the next day still, when lincoln walked within sight of the state house where the amendment was under consideration. when lincoln came back a little after 7:00 in the morning on february 4th at the naval academy, at this time because it is well known he is down there, and he is going to be returning

and they are arranged to have a train meet them at the wharf so they didn't do have to do any mile and half walks, just stepped off the boat, stepped on the train and rolled back to washington by 9:00. the most interesting thing about it is to have him walk via state capital where that is under consideration, having passed the united states congress only two days earlier, that is to me and amazing image and he knew it too. he knew they were debating it but he didn't stop and go in and say you have got -- he just let it be and walked by. >> now from annapolis, md. site of the united states naval academy we take a tour of the nimitz library with jennifer bryan, director of special collections and archives.

>> the special collections and archives department, standing in front of the thomas paine collection. dr. payne collected these books that relate to some marines and submarine warfare over the course of many years and there are 3500 volumes. dr. payne was the third minister of nasa and under his watch, seven of the apollo missions were launched and in 1992 the collection was offered to the academy by his widow. he died in may and in the fall she offered this collection to the academy and after making arrangements to take such a large collection, the gift was finalized in 1996, he served in world war ii and was in seven cruises in the pacific during world war ii and i presume that is where his interest in submarines developed although perhaps he was interested prior to that but i would imagine that

was an impetus for him to start collecting books related again to submarines and submarine warfare, books that go from the late 1800s up through the time of dr. payne's death. having served in the submarine service in world war ii that was an impetus for collecting these books. afterwards he graduated from stanford, got a degree at stanford, and then went on to work for general electric and i believe it was in 68 that he became the assistant administrator for nasa and was named administrator in 1969 and served in that position until his death. one of my favorite books in the collection is of french book published in the late 1800s which is a history of submarines and is interesting because of the illustrated cover and also the illustrations in it. most of them are photographs.

it is kind of not necessarily a rare book but certainly an interesting book from the time period. this book is about the submarine nautilus which was the first to go to the pacific to the atlantis underneath the north pole, arctic ice pack as written by the commander of the submarine. this is the book that contains photographs of german u-boat's from world war i. close photographs of a special historical interest as the originals have been taken by german submarine officers attached -- dramatically illustrates the shameful campaign of the submarine war during which some any crimes were committed by the germans. these often sank without notice merchant vessels, allies and neutral, passenger boats and even hospital ships leaving their victims to perish under their eyes without even lifting a finger to help them. there is a book from 1920, a history of submarines, earlier

books which are very interesting, history of submarines that are published in 1906-1907 when the submarine really was -- sort of taking off, very experimental. simon lake was one of the inventors that worked on submarines. we have some pictures and archives in the academy of midget and getting into one of simon lake's submarines. i would say those are of interest. we have an italian work on submarines from before world war ii and has an interesting cutaway of the interior of submarines. those are some of the books in the collection. we have works by edward l. berg who is a graduate of the academy who worked with salvage work and it was the s 24 submarine he worked on on salvaging. a lot of very interesting works in the collection. the collection does also include

periodicals, a certain number of naval institute proceedings in the collection as well as individual magazines that would have had articles about submarines, there's a life magazine about i believe that was the nautilus going under the poll, fortune magazine which was about the navy prior to world war i1, and this talking about the development of submarines. this is a fictional account of funding the u-boat's in world war i published in 1919 but included in the illustrations are some photographs of actual sailors, aircraft, anti-aircraft guns and so forth. that makes it interesting as it combines illustrations like you see on the cover with photographs and illustrations of actual people and events. this is the surface of the poll

about the uss skate, the first submarine to surface that the poll and actually the author who was commander of submarine became superintendent of the naval academy, james calvert. this volume written by japanese naval intelligence officer detailed plans the japanese had for invading singapore and basically east asia and ways out the whole war plan and it was apparently taken from two japanese officers without their knowledge which was how it was published in the united states. dr. payne didn't just collect works in english but as i said worked in italian, russian, spanish, french, japanese. just a really interesting collection. >> from booktv's recent visit to annapolis, md. with help of comcast's we bring you an

interview with bill dudley, author of "maritime maryland: a history". border and about the imports of marine life in annapolis, impact on the economy and evolution of recreational boating in the area. >> anything about the bay, its size for example is 200 miles long, 40 miles wide, at its widest point, mostly it is a shallow bay between 20 or 30 feet over all, it has a tremendous number of creeks and streams that feed into it, affording all sorts of wonderful fishing venues and also kayaking or canoeing, what we enjoyed about the bay was its varied sea life, the fishing experiences you can have here, the sea birds which are everywhere and varied. at one point we saw dolphins in the west with for which was just south of here. over the years as i witnessed

the incredible liveliness of this bay and the people who work on it and play on it i decided i ought to write something about it but what to write? what i discovered is i did more research, even though there are several -- many short studies of the bay and various topics, no one really brought them together in one book. my book is a synthesis of all these stories people have told about the bay. some of their in-depth research is there. i have done original research and the records of the maryland department of natural resources especially in the fisheries area to bent an idea of the catch in variousget an idea of the catch various years and how the life of the fisheries have been doing

over the years. the conclusions are dismal because -- despite the fact you can go out and catch fish today and crabs and oysters, overtime come as the catch has diminished, you wonder where we are going in terms of the cleanup of the bay which is a perpetual topic that comes up every year in the local papers, studies that come out from the chesapeake bay foundation and university of maryland biological laboratory. everybody is working towards of better bay but it just seems to take an awful long time to get there. over time since the 1980s new laws have been put into effect to inhibit development of shore areas, near the bay, near the creek, a setback which prevents

people from building close to the bay and also prevents them from taking down the shrubbery and the trees that are bordering on the water even though it happens. we now have water keepers, rivet keepers who are in effect paid to patrol the creeks and rivers and keep track of what might be illegal encroachments on protected bay property. that is what is happening now. the fishing industry is a part of what draws people to maryland. as people come to the bay to fish, they come to the day to enjoy the sea food they find in the restaurants, they come and they buy places on head but they call them where you can fish for a day and strike it lucky and

get lots of fish, recreational boating is another, with power boats, over 150,000 power boats on the bay today call only 10% of the entire boat population is sailboats. i don't consider this book to be a complete story. there is plenty of room for further work but it does give an image of the bay at a particular time. in all aspects, whether it is the fisheries, trade or the decline of working sales. at one time most of the products coming from the farms of the day went to baltimore and other cities by sailboat. all the types of kraft one sales the bay. these went away in the early 20th century replaced by the gasoline engine and the diesel

engine. what men did with their hands was replaced by machines. the industrial revolution went to see. that is what i like to say. the industrial revolution went to see and it made the bay more productive. at the same time it began to diminish the resources. i want people to have a new appreciation for the depth and beauty of the chesapeake, its heritage, it's traditions. get a good taste of what it is like to live on the chesapeake, see how other people work and live and enjoy the place called chesapeake bay. >> annapolis has the largest collection of 18th-century architecture in the united states and its historic downtown area became the first national historic landmark district. booktv visited the city with the help of our local cable partner comcast. >> the name of my stories back

creek books. i still use and read and out of print books. hopefully books with lasting interest in all fields. my decision to open a store was driven by the economics of selling books online has become such that it is very hard to sell the book online. a book like this only your inventory is on display. people can touch it, it is much more visible. all used bookstores are unique. unlike a new bookstore. the inventory has been hand selected by somebody, the owner usually. it reflects that individual's personality, their interests to a large degree. one of my favorite books that i have here is an 1869 copy of the play that lincoln was watching when he was assassinated which is our american cousin. most people interested in

history no lincoln was shot in 1865 and this play was printed in 1869 and was the first time it was printed. the way copyright law worked back then before things were performed in public essentially if you performed a work before hundreds of people and printed it, you were putting it in the public domain essentially. so the owner of the play, laura keene, the actress who was performing in it that night, was very careful never to have the play printed because she wanted to retain ownership of it. another interesting thing about that was she had been sort of a victim of that kind of piracy of that very play in the late 1850s when the future brother-in-law of john wilkes booth, john sleeper clark, had sent people

to performances of our american cousin in new york where laura keane was putting it on and they transcribes the play, went to their own theater and were putting on a performance of the play there and so she sued john sleeper clark and she won the case but that is an interesting connection to later when john wilkes booth was the person who shot lincoln at a performance of the same way. another interesting volume or sets of books that i have here is the biography of washington by john marshall. i am going to show you this is one of the five regular text volumes. this is still probably the best biography of washington so you can see the title page. the previous owner, the original owner has written his name at the top of each volume and the

atlas volume has a list of subscribers, people that put up the money to have a book published but it has also these very nice maps of washington's campaigns. the atlas volume is quite uncommon. another one that is interesting is the observations in the north, eight months in prison and on parole. this book was published in late march of 1865 in richmond and is apparently the last book published in the confederacy. i just had this one restored a little bit by a binder that i use. one of the most unusual books that i have, one of the oldest books that i have is aristotle's

treatise on politics and it was published in venice in 1550 one. it has this love the title page that is a woodcut, the whole page, and it is in latin, it is about 500 years old. what i hope people take away when they leave my store, an impression that this is a place where knowledge is collected, where almost anything you see on the shelf is interesting in some way, interesting for a long time. >> annapolis's st. john's college is thought to be the first in maryland to be racially integrated with the addition of martin dire and francis scott key, author of the star spangled banner was once the student. booktv visited annapolis with the help of our local cable partner comcast to bring you the ariane's culture and literary

history. >> in the 's culture and litera history. >> in the block, the greenfield library the library is a former all records building for the state of maryland. all the books were donated to the college, many of the early books in the first collection were given because he himself wanted the college to be resourceful for young people who were interested in the ministry. so this was a collection for pastors as well as the general public. thomas bray was the bishop's commissary of maryland and brought to this country collections largely collections for various parishes, library collections but what we have here is the first collection

given to a public library for the purpose both of parish use and the reading public because he really wanted the public to become interested in and to study works that might lead to the ministry. this book here i will take out and show you, on the cover, all of the gray books had this or another inscription that identified them as volumes that were in the library of annapolis. this was given to the city of annapolis in 1695, this collection, and constituted 1100 books and to hear we have the second kind of inscription.

this one is the second indication that this is from the dray collection. what i love about these books is what you see, the quality of the typeface and the, next week turns to the collection of francis scott key, the author of the national anthem, graduate of the college of 1796. in those days the college had a secondary school and went through college if you chose to do it and he was at the school for ten years, took a long time to graduate and did so long before he was 20 years old. one of the pieces that he wrote that has had some influence at the college was a discourse on education and was delivered at st. anne's church in annapolis after the commencement of saint john's college. i thought i would just read a paragraph or two from it. this is fun. talking about the importance of a liberal education for all, not

just the wealthy. and he says there are and never will be the 4 and the rich, men of labor and men of leisure and the state which neglects either collects a duty and neglected at its peril. whichever it neglect will not only be useless, mischievous. francis scott key was a big speaker and this particular discourse goes on for a few hours, sometimes shortly after my presidency i received in the mail and been the will of francis scott key from one of the descendants. this has been carefully preserved and you will see very fine handwriting. it is a beautiful document and it is rare, 1837 is the date of the will but this has some importance to its -- this is a book given to the college as one

of many by alexander, the founder of the boston library and also the international book exchange. that took some imagination. kind of exciting to have a collection of books donated to the college around 1850, all sacred texts, religious books, the international book exchange. and published in latin. and anything anyone would focus on, early edition generally translations of these works that we have read for a long long time. >> next, jane wilson mcwilliams takes us through the history of

annapolis and the naval academy. >> is "annapolis: city on the severn: a history". you can watch it now on booktv. >> release settlers on 300 x years ago would have landed here and we are on a cove that is in fact the beginning of annapolis, the land first settled in sixteen 51 and in the 1560s and 80s, an original 19 acres of what became annapolis was here and boats would have coming in, good sized vessels, deep for its size, those would come up and unload goods and supplies on lighters that would have come in here. they tended to be along here,

along the ridge that runs down the middle. the name of the book is "annapolis: city on the severn: a history". i like the early part of the nineteenth century because annapolis was eclipsed by baltimore and was desperate. they needed economic security and they didn't have it. this is a nice river but doesn't reach far back into the interior. it is pretty shallow especially at the entrance of the point. really restricts boat travel and constantly trying to get help for the channel to be made d. brand get ships in and it never happened so they watch baltimore becoming a major seaport, taking the commerce which in the eighteenth century was coming to an apple was and they were upset about that. so it was fun to see the things

they tried. they bake the federal government for anything navy. could we be enabled the polk, an arsenal, anything? how about a can nowal ? you had the railroad began and the same day. they thought maybe we could get a part of the canal from georgetown when come here and it would be faster than boats going up the potomac to pick up the coal or whatever was coming out of western maryland. it was a great idea. what the city got was a small one track railroad, jumping from a annapolis junction, the line from baltimore to washington and in 1840 annapolis got a train

and then the naval school which was wonderful. in the beginning it was small. was the naval school that became known as the united states naval academy. it brought to town people, midshipman, professors, officers, they have been coming ever since. it is an incredibly important part of the city's economy. i knew we had slavery but didn't realize how bad the jim crow movement had been after the war in the early 1900s and i found that are real shock. annapolis was one of the two cases decided by the supreme court of the united states for the grandfather clause.

you couldn't vote in annapolis unless you had $500 worth of assessed property in the city, unless you were naturalized or you were the sun--there were no women voting and also didn't matter, the son or descendant of a naturalized citizen or unless your grandfather could have voted, january 1st, 1860. in 1868 voting in annapolis is tied to the 1867 constitution which allowed voting only to males, white males. if your grandfather wasn't a white male and couldn't vote you couldn't vote no matter the fifteenth amendment in eighteen 70 in annapolis. if you couldn't vote in 1868 if you couldn't vote in 1908 which probably knocked out 700 of a hundred possible voters. there were definitely black business men in town.

there were annapolis business men with 14,000, $8,000 worth of assessed property on the tax roll. that was fine but they can't get into office if they don't have a group of supporters. although there had been older men in the city of annapolis government, actually the first black was elected 1873, 3 years after the fifteenth amendment he was the first black man elected to public office in maryland. very substantial man with a substantial income, he was dead by 1908. the other was well over the required -- his supporters generally weren't. he was knocked out of office in 1909.

three men who tried to to register to vote in the first election after the 1908 law which was spring of 1909, were denied. they took the case to court, the u.s. circuit court of maryland and from there it went to the supreme court. the case was heard in 1913 along with the oklahoma case and they both decided at the same time, came down in 1915 which you can't do this. things had been going fairly well, good bit of black prosperity in town in the 70s 80s and 90s the state had done very well. then been go, 1908, definitely wiped out and this was not the only law. there were other jim crow laws that affect the same time. people remember that today. and after the second world war population went way up. the city was still searching for economic security. what they had done throughout

which was a huge population and a lot of them were young families, they wanted recreation, parks, services, so the city was bigger and it began to look for a way to have a kind of economic stability that it needed in order to provide these things so annapolis had all waterfront which it always had, it had some wonderful 18th-century houses, buildings, marvelous state house, all of the equipment for a historic renaissance but it wasn't until the 1950s that historic annapolis was formed, and they were furious about it and so the town turned itself to preservation, to history as a way of making money and realized a lot of these places were threatened. the idea would be then to

perhaps have a historic district ordinance that would restrict development that was not appropriate, that would make the town keep its charm. i like people to come away with the sense that this is a living town. there are a lot of interesting things that happened here. we were at one time the capital of the country. it is the city on a human scale. not that it doesn't have problems. it certainly does. but it is a city with real possibilities for the future. i would like people to come with information about it. >> for more information on this and other cities visited by c-span's local content of vehicles visit c-span.org/localcontent. >> here are a few programs to watch this weekend on booktv. brian lamb talked about rosa lee, a mother and her family in

urban america. the program first aired on september twelfth, 1998 and kicked off booktv's first weekend of forty-eight hours of nonfiction books on c-span2. >> a year after her parents as grandparents arrived they were sharecroppers who came out of jeep rural isolation in northampton county in north carolina. the section just north of the north bank of the roanoke river. they had been on the bishop's and power plantation since they worry emancipated as slaves in 1863 and they left that area because of the depression, forced down prices for the major cash crops in that area, peanuts, groundnuts and cotton. the person they're working for on the plantation lost the plantation because of the depression. they migrated to washington looking for work in a better life. >> watch the rear of that program at 6:00 p.m. eastern.

at 8:15 a.m. sunday, hamilton stewart gives a history of dunbar high school, the first african-american public high school in the united states. then we bring you a collection of programs on syria and middle east issues at 5:00 eastern. visit booktv.org for a complete television schedule. >> booktv is celebrating its fifteenth anniversary this fall and 15 years ago bookstore called brookline book smith was named books for of the year. in 1998, the co-owner of brookline book smith. what was the book world like in 1998? >> very different than it is today, that is for certain. it was shortly after the advent of amazon in 1994 and also we have of barnes and noble store

opened a block away from us in 1995 so by the time we got to 1998 we were in a new world and scrambling to reinvent, stay viable and relevant, working very hard ever since for 15 years. >> how does an independent smaller bookstores stay viable and change and adapt to changing market conditions? >> a tugboat versus an ocean liner. think of amazon granting of a change on a dime and large chain bookstores, we can look around the community, engage the market, make quick decisions and turn on a dime paula rather larger corporation contained longer to make adjustments to reach calibrate so i think our -- it has been a great strength.

>> how have evokes -- e-books affected your business? >> i don't think they have had a huge impact on us so far. it is just that the culture is constantly changing so you have to pay attention. instead of one predator -- that is not a great word -- one competitor in the jungle, they keep popping up new ones. which has always been true for retailers i am sure but the bookselling world and the last 15 years has seemed particularly lively. >> host: do you find it is the older folks to come in and brows and want to touch physical books are are you finding young people coming in? >> guest: very much both. we have a great demographics in this town which is one of the reasons we are still here and we have everything from virtually

newborn children to octogenarians in our isles on a daily basis. is a broad demographic and great customer base. >> host: what kind of books were selling in 1998 as opposed to today? >> guest: the seven harry potters came out between 1998 and now. in general our mix has always been a great general bookstore and a full range of all kinds of books so i couldn't say one type is selling more than another. the last five to seven years, graphic novels have come on strong, the whole self help, in terms of aging and so called third chapter in life, the holes on rather, it is an evolution.

>> host: you started there in 1981 as an employee. added you become the other? >> my parents made me get a teaching degree and i did not want to teach. i took a part-time job and a bookstore and fell in love with the business. then the owner offered an ownership opportunity which he said is bound to make you really work your ass off. and in truth that has been. it is a great world to be in, very hard work as well. >> host: are you there seven days of the? >> guest: a lot of hours. >> host: why was brookline and

chosen as bookstore of the year? >> guest: we always had a great -- we have people from high school age up to 70 and 80-year-olds, sense of humor, personality and we put together a really terrific booklet on all we are in the community and all the things we do and sort of showed that personality and history. it worked. >> host: 15 years ago bookline book smith named a bookstore of the year. it is in business in massachusetts, this is booktv's fifteenth anniversary as well. thanks for being with us. >> this fall booktv celebrates its fifteenth anniversary on c-span2. here are some of the headline surrounding the publishing industry in 1998.

our first year on the air. total sales for all polk in 1998 reached $28.7 billion. online book sales increased 300% to an estimated $650 million. ..