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visit booktv.org for a complete television schedule. now on booktv john mol leer recounts the final 18 years spent here in washington, d.c., he was instrumental in the development of howard university. took part in local politics. it's just over fifty minutes. thank you for being here. i see a lot of friends, family, colleagues. the staff was influential in putting the book together. i'm a little nervous. i'll say thank you very much for being here. frederick douglass in d.c. we know the statute moved to emancipation hall. we don't get much past the

talking points. we don't scratch the surface who he was. as a grandfather, as a mentor, as a newspaperman, as a "washingtonian." try to get to that element e of his life in this book. as he talked about, kind of a rev translation made me put the book together. i'll share -- this is frederick douglass national historic site. it's a rough and tumble corner. i used work at the united planning organization at 1649. basically was a poverty worker. i essentially worked in social services. i would take the met throw and walk down mlk and w. street and make a left on 16th street. early in the morning there's not too much going on. morning on june 7, 2010, there

was a crime tape all over the place. there was crime lab vans. something obviously happened. i kept moving. i get to my office, and i bring up the press release, and 17-year-old man shot and killed on the corner. i believe, as of now, his homicide is still unsolved. came out a couple of days later and reporting that he was -- he had had absconded from the department juvenile justice system in the city. but it really kind of hit me. here he gets shot and killed in front of the frederick douglass site. it's the most famous runway slave in american had history. a lot of other runway slaves. frederick doug frederick douglass is the person remembered. a worker said, isn't that -- , i mean, what is going on out here? and anthony said, hey, frederick

douglass reincarnated and people say hey, old man, get on we're trying to make money. that's the real -- reality of it. a lot of young people in the neighborhood think the house is haunted. with that said, -- [laughter] with that said, we went to the douglas home a couple of dais -- days later. and my friend washington is a native "washingtonian." he never read about douglas. it permeates our awareness as wan begans. he kept kind of almost interrogating the park rangers and said, well, if you ran up to douglas in the street, would he give you some advice and hey, get out of his face? what was he like. who did he hang with? what made him so successful he was able to command enough wealth and influence have thest state. i'm sure you have been to the

home you can see the moments, and the capitol. the park ranger basically admitted wed really don't have much material about his life in washington. he wrote a couple of different versions in the auto biography. most of what we know comes from the material. anthony was really, like me, he's a conversation list. we went back to the office he wasn't saying much. he was in deep thoughts. he broke the silence and said, hey, john. i know, you know about history and do journalism. so you to put your money where your mouth is. he said, i'm going say it for you. that was in june of 2010. we're not here in june of 2013. so it's been a long road. i really do thank the people who have helped me with the book. i take this very deeply. i'm sorry. all right.

that's it. not everybody is here. okay. so we start on the story. frederick douglass -- he's a -- i need to get it together. frederick douglass is a man for poll. he's really -- i'm sorry. frederick douglass, we know him. he's like a rosa parks and dr. king. he's like, you know, put on the pedestal. who was he as a man. a father, a friend? this is from mount vernon. he's standing to the side, and frederick douglass was a newspaper man. he's an abolitionist. an advocate for women's suffrage. he was so much more than that. i'm trying to touch who he was. the image i didn't use in the book. it just struck me, because george washington is the founding father of the country. everyone knows him. frederick douglass is as

important to the country, i think, as george washington. okay. this is a photograph of the crowd going president lincoln's second inauguration. douglas had two interviews with lincoln. summer of 1863 he read the riot act. we need fully enlist the black troops. eldest son was on the beaches. if you have seen the "glory ." he's with those at charge fort wagner. he said, lincoln, you center to get with the program. we need to unleash the force if we want to win. he comes back in the fall of 1864, meets with him. they were buddies. they were -- they had a mutual respect for each other. there's been some recent books that have come out about douglas and lincoln. i really tried to move past

that. try to move beyond that. douglas is in the crowd as second inauguration. it's a a well-known story. he basically crashes the after party at the executive mansion. i'm sure some people know the story. that douglas is trying to get in, and the police say who are you? we can't admit you. he said that's nonsense. mr. lincoln knows me. send word in. he's essentially being physically moving out. and lincoln said it's my friend. let him go. lincoln said, sir, what did you think of the speech? and douglas said i don't think you want to hear my humble opinion. lincoln said that's nonsense. what did you think? he said, sir, it was a sacred earth. he was in roup rod chester was n douglas and other black

"washingtonians" met with him and tried to persuade johnson to change course. he was really i'm sure -- many historians here. johnson wassed aer have to the republicans in congress. that made it difficult. skip that. that's kind of where my story begins. this is what he would have looked like when he comes to washington. like i said, kind of in between civil war over and president grant's inauguration. this is where the story begins. to the left here is charles douglas, to the right is lewis douglas. in the middle is joseph. the reason why these they are important is frederick douglass had five children. four grew to adulthood. they essentially moved to washington after the civil war. they were his son. they made their own name.

they -- heros in their own right. washington, d.c., is kind of an interesting place. washington, d.c., had a large free black community prior to the civil war established black middle class. washington has been a special place for history of african-american culture, calvin chase started with the -- born in 1855. he was born free in washington. it had a large established black middle class. they wanted to be part of that. the children wanted to be part of it. by 1868, charles douglas is in washington working for the freeman bureau. this is actually the 1868 city directly. as you can see, charles douglas, back then they denoted folks et nicety. you don't see it today. we don't have phonebooks. you wouldn't have ethnicity. charles douglas was a clerk for

the bureau of refugee. he lived in plateau mack city. you can see frederick douglass, junior. does anyone know where it is now? it's far from here. it's 1894 bath mat. i'm going move here and hopefully still pick up the audio. this is -- [inaudible] this is saint elizabeth. [inaudible] the index starts in 1852. it's the city far. [inaudible] $52,000 acquired this property from the here -- heir -- [inaudible] which is the public housing authority. that is not historically accurate.

this is the whole soil and water assessment tool [inaudible] these are all radical republicans. they still have those same street names today. this is where charles douglas settled. this is the 1871 city directly. douglass editor of -- he's living in -- [inaudible] i guess you use was stay. he was staying there. frederick douglass, jr. died in 1862. he lived his entire life on nickels avenue which is today mlk. as i mentioned earlier, washington, d.c., is a very special place in term of establish black middle class prior to civil war. when you have runways or contraband coming to washington from maryland, virginia, further

down south. the free black community helped form it before the freeman bureau. it's 1875 print from harpers weekly. it shows washington, d.c. you can see here it's a newspaper boy, some sort of possibly like a police officer, a official. this is a well-dressed woman. this is a coach or carriage driver. women with products of -- [inaudible] coming from charlestown, saint mary county coming up to washington, d.c., to the center market selling goods. this is went on for almost a century. this image kind of portrays that. as you can see, the capitol dome is in the back. okay, a fascinating fellow. as i mentioned earlier, john c. -- sorry. i mentioned this to mr. cole. frederick douglass -- 1847, starts the north starr niewp. he had a riff with william lloyd

gareson. they a difference of opinion. douglass said i'm going to take matters to my own hands. he started the "north star." changed names a couple of times. he ran a newspaper in new york for 17 to 18 years. he retired ceased publication during the civil war, and he was looked on as most prominent newspaper man of his era. prominent black newspaper man of his era. john c. underwood and solomon p. chase, the chief justice of the supreme court whom he knew for many years. he was the governor of ohio, underwood and chase wanted douglass to come to stray to start a newspaper in virginia. he was reluctant he knew the financial burden it entailed. martin is one of the folks -- same thing with the douglass come down to washington. he was born as a slave. he ran away. he made his name in boston.

he comes to washington. he was very influential and basically persuading douglass to start a newspaper. i don't know if i mentioned his name. his name is john martin. as you can see, he's like a modern photograph. you see a lot of -- it's kind of an interesting fellow. he actually committed suicide in 1876 in new orleans. this is the city directly from 1871. new national error published every tuesday morning. 418 11th street. douglass editor and publisher. a couple of quick notes since we have c-span here. the book in 1990 about douglass said it was published in across the river. it's dismissive. no footnote. i find than egregious mistake by a pulitzer prize winning historian. the reason why it's important is

newspaper row. i give a shoutout to richee here. it's the open -- epicenter of the information exchange in washington. this is where all the news not only in washington but goes to cincinnati, new york, philadelphia. all the washington news. the location, location is extremely important. the new national era was right in that whole ground zero. and so this -- this was the only black paper in washington at that time. this was before the washington -- before the people's advocate. and i just find that an egregious mistake. it is kind of been forgotten. it was goes to the congressional record. you can see it was read on the floor of the senate and congress as a leading authority of the day. and like i said, newspaper row. this is another print from january 18 74 in "harpers." it's an out-of-town newspapers.

all sorts of activity going on here. douglass' office was on the next street over. in 1872 douglass buys a home on capitol hill. 316. it's not far from here. the new national era changed names a couple of times. all sorts of issues with the finances of it. it took its name from the national era which was the abolitionist newspaper published in washington prior to the civil war. they were well known because they published "uncle tom's cabin." it was in ode in reference to the briefs paper. he said, i can't be spending my time between new york and washington. he picks one place, washington. this is an 1883 print.

this is a senator from mississippi,let see. you have john -- [inaudible] goaf raney, first black member of the house of representatives from south carolina. richard allen is on here. richard though door greener. first black graduate harvard. first black ph.d. he first 2000 get -- one to get the undergrad degree. the reason it sticks out, washington in 1870 and 18980 was the first generation of civil rights leader. douglass was the biggest man on campus. he was the most distinguished gentleman -- [laughter] general oliver howard university is named after him. he was known as the christian soldier. douglass when he comes to washington, there's a lot stuff going on. howard university is founded in

1867. today it's an hbcu. it's well-known. do we have any graduates? shoutout to them! he was not the first president of the university, but he was influential in making a lot of moves to accident occur -- secure the university's existence. he lost his right arm in a battle. he was from maine. this is howard university, from i believe the 1901 class catalog. the main building has since been knocked down. this is general howard's home which still stands on the campus today. there it is. you go back far right there it is today. this is national historic landmark today. it's used essentially for alumni events. how am i doing on time?

pretty good. okay, frederick douglass is just so deep -- it's so deep. this is life story and touches you so deeply. and so he's born a slave in maryland and leaves ashore in 1818. he distinguished himself very early on as having a certain intelligence, a certain acumen. he was singled out to be the play mate for his master's child. he goes to baltimore, maryland. he's basically the play mate. sophia, his mistress at the time essentially teaches douglass the abc. when douglass gets the information, it's kind of done in secret. his master find out, famous quote. i can't say the exact words. he said it's inappropriate. what are you doing? you have corrupted the slave forever. he's no good anymore. well, his master was right. he would always read.

he basically would read in secret. he tells very, very, vividly in his 1845 autobiography. he was enslaved person in the city, but he was different than a country slave. actually when he came to baltimore a country guy. he quickly adapted to urban life. he tells the story of essentially taking bread from his home and going to the street with a spelling book and going up to the poor white children and saying what is this word? i'll give you a piece of bread if you tell me the word. i think that's so deep. when i was 12 or 13 i read about it. man, this is genius, he's so smart! that's kind of how i -- i guess interest in douglass started. so i show the photograph because douglass was a self-taught man. when his 1845 autobiography

comes out, the reason why he wrote it people doubted he was ever a slave. his first introduction to the abolitionist was in the fall of 1841 at the retreat in nantucket. he had briefs -- previously been a licensed preacher in the ame church. i'm sure there are some ame attenkeys here. was the first public or ration in the church. when he attends the meeting, all the various crew of abolitionists there and say, douglass, you need to speak you a runway slave. you need to tell the story. and douglass said no, i'm not up to the occasion. they said, no, people we've heard you preach. get up, talk! when douglass speaks, he really had a legitimacy, authenticity that was unique because you had

free black folks born in the north who were abolitionists at this time. douglass was really the only -- not the only one. there was other folks who escaped from maryland. douglass had a certain -- he was consequent. he was able to tell the story in a powerful way people doubted you know what you know. he said, you know, i'll put my cards on the table. in 1845 he writes -- autobiography "narrative of fred douglass american slave." he named people, places, times location. if you want to check the address. this is what he does. this is what he does. call my bluff. so actually there was some folks in the south who put out a warrant for his arrest because it was inflammation he did this. he had been living like a secret life, essentially. he was free in north. he was still a runway. the runway. just lay back --

i guess that time was 1793 still was in place. but frederick douglass has to get out of town. he goes to england. he gets involved with the international abolitionist networking. i don't know how i got there. basically i'm trying to say he's a self-taught guy. he was offered the presidency a couple of times at howard university. sheafed a vote to become there. it was kind of some division whether the university should be a theological institution or secular. he thought it should be secular. it should teach all sort of topics. classics, surveying surveying with, math, science, not just a three logical school. in 1883 there was a strong call for douglass to become president of howard. this is william west is the president. douglass essentially said that, you know, i'm flattered by your confidence in me, but i am more

comfortable kind of being an outside advocate. i'm comfortable of being someone does oversight. i ask if -- people here familiar with the show "scandal "? good. it was like the oliva pope. [laughter] okay. when there were interior squabbles, when there were people on the outside questioning the university, when he needs to go to congress and say, this is what is going on. we need to figure it out. he was like the oliva pope. there was scandal in 1873 to talk about a new book bashar. he took care of it. he was on the board from 1871 until 1895. he was given an honor law degree in 1872 from the university. still doing pretty good on time inspect is a striking image. you can see many books. he's lost in whatever he's reading. his library at the --

also he was just also consume all sort of information. there was one there was no one style or genre. he read a little bit of fiction. this is the library of congress. it houses the air force rotc program and the prelim -- political science department. okay. now change courses a little bit. douglass, as i mentioned earlier, when he writes 1845 autobiography. he puts the life on the line.

he tells the story for the world to hear. when he's in england, his freedom is negotiated and purchased. he returns to america. he's a free man. douglass was friends with john browne. many people i'm sure here know. he said john brown will die for the slave. i will live for him. douglass kind of counseled or advised brown. i don't think your plan is going work, my friend. brown wanted douglass to come along. when brown's harpers fail. he's implicated. he has to get out of town. marbles -- marshalls went to his foot. douglass also his home in rod chester was a stop on the underground railroad before folks would go to canada. douglass really was -- i don't mean it in the way people take now. he was an outlaw. he was familiar with that side

of the law. he was hunted and pursued by marshalls. in washington, d.c., he becomes a marshall. in march of 1877, rutherford b. hays appoints him to the marshall for district of columbia. i'm not a douglass scholar -- excuse me, i'm no a lincoln scholar. i know there are some folks here. i'm sure the name rings a bell. marshall the district was a prominent position at the time, and d.c. bar association was against douglass, and essentially their stance was that we don't doubt mr. douglass' abilities. we don't doubt his intelligence. we are not sure if he'll be able to administrate the law properly. maybe that's because he was a fugitive. nonetheless, he's confirmed by executive session. he -- it's first big government

appointment. he was on the city council in d.c. he served for a short period of time. it was interesting. makes washington, d.c., unique. when he tendered his resignation in may of 1871, he was that the time running a newspaper. he joined the board of howard university. he was bus spin a lot of calls for him to lecture. he did what he could, he didn't have time for the city council. so when he tethers dr or submits his letter of resignation he receives a conformation from the secretary of state. it makes washington unique. if you're in whenever united states city council you're not going get a letter from the secretary of state. so when douglass is marshall he works out the building. it's the old city hall. this is on indiana avenue inspect is a district of columbia appellate court building. it's actually a statute of lincoln outside the building with the first statute lincoln e

ricketted -- erected sign. there's a little bit of information of douglass when he was march. he would walk from his home all the way to city hall and back. he really would walk through the street of washington. t really interesting item in the new york tribune that despite his age he walks around washington as briskly as a schoolboy. another thing i should mention there was an -- i believe it to be true. it was circulated over the country. it's very short. and said something to the effect that an ex-con stable in the criminal court in washington the other date. a bailiff saw him and said are you looking for march douglass. not now but when he was a fugitive, i tried hard to find him. [laughter] this is another print of douglass inspect is kind of his

first couple of weeks on the job. you see them wishing him well. when douglass, by his own admission, he was competent in the position. he was around like the criminal element. he really kind of -- by his own admission it was difficult. he was in court all the time. responsible for transferring folks to the jail. it will try your soul, he knew the importance of the high profile nature of the position. and he did a great job. they would publish the budget of each office certainly flit paper. when he leaves the marshallship it essentially says it left money in the account. he was a good steward of public funds. there is an interesting document. this is police court of district of columbia. it's petty crime, counterfeits,

there was never a documented lynching in washington, d.c. there was never someone killed before put to trial. i put in the book. it's in the book. i'm not going go in to great detail. if there ever was to be a lynching in washington, d.c., when douglass was marshall. it's an interesting story. when i go in to the details in the book. i won't tell you now. but basically frederick douglass was integral in preventing lynching from possibly happening. this is an image kind of what douglass looked like in marshall. hef a fit man. if you duoto his house, he has dumbbells it's believed he did pullups on the front porch and

walked all over the place. he would walk and not take the bus today. i say that because he had -- he would use canes but wouldn't use them to walk. just known for an accessory item. lincoln actually gives douglass one of lincoln's canes. okay. this is where i start to get to the local stuff. when douglass lives there he buys the home in september of 1877 because the government position and the appointment. he had a steady, reliable income. before he was an entrepreneur with his oration. all the things he did. this is a letter, i believe, september 24. the gentleman is the head of the direct commissioners, the d.c. government. the accelerate basically writing port of gentleman lived in union town saying hey, we need police protection over here. it's actually called the metro --

police department when it was formed in 1861, lincoln's marshall, washington, d.c., have the plant and kind of the suburbs which is like washington county. so when they incorporated the police department, they did all of the city. that is why it's called the metro police department. douglass is on the outskirts. he's on the sub wish -- suburb of the city. he took an active role in the neighborhood. we have business interests we want to make sure any children, grandchildren, everybody is okay. he took an active role in helping get additional police on that side of town. this is from the u.s. marshall letter head. he becomes a member of the police department. a big shoutout to shandra smith. here is a painting. here is the washington navy yard. here is the u.s. capitol.

this is the area here. so it's very rural area when founded in 1854. uniontown is found in 1854, the first suburb of washington. a lot of urban myths and legend about it. it is true that of it a founded by three gentleman, and it was a racial restrictive covenant. no pigs, no folks of african dissent, no ma lit -- it didn't work. the property was in tax sales the time. it was speculative. it never got going until after the civil war. during the civil war, it was kind of crawling with confederate spy. john willings boothe shoots lincoln -- i'll go to back to that. this is the navy yard. lieutenant john green of the

navy helped basically develop a modern ordinance bureau. it come from john. they would shoot because washington is a big topographic call bowel. it's on a ridge. they set up target in the eastern branch and shoot at targets to the river. there are probably hundred and hundreds of cannon balls in the river. the growth of the washington navy yard helped spur the development. john hook he was one of the guys. kind of racist fellow, no way about it. he actually all sort of things he had a spot at the center market selling alcohol and all other stuff. he's basically his grave and congressional cemetery says nothing about the real estate ventures. this is a famous photograph of matthew brady.

[inaudible] the navy yard bridge. it's like the 11th street bridge on the bridge on 13th street. it's the navy yard here. after john shoots lincoln. he come across the bridge and meets up with davey harrold a. they escape. uniontown shows -- they were around town. and still not even to the day, i guess, sure what they're doing there. they were probably up no good. [laughter] this is 1887 hopkins map of the city. this is a historic district. it was formed as a historic district in 1978. you see monroe street. this is mlk. these are the original street names. and founded in 1854 union town. kind of a branding thing.

uniontown. they took the name of the first 14 presidents. this is franklin piers the president. this is 14th street, jefferson street. today the w street. you can see washington phil more. it's rumored i have a connection to them. [laughter] i try not to share that. [laughter] you can see douglass' property is the biggest property in the town, than is still this is today the national park site. these are now apartment buildings. it's about nine and a half acres . this is the home in credder hill. it's a great place to go. it's like the national park service. it's a great place to go. like said, there's a great

panorama. i'll show the photograph a little bit later. i have to speed it up a little bit. okay. union town, it didn't have street names. it had street name but there weren't street signs in the neighborhood. there weren't axis on the homes. the washington board of trade said we have products that order product we don't know where we're. and interesting story cleveland gets lost there and essentially comets up to the douglass home and said this is actually danielle's driver later secretary of state says to a little boy. he said that's frederick douglass' house. everybody know that. douglass served under cleveland as reporter of deed. you can see honorable frederick douglass. they knew it would get to him. this is where the story potentially gets scandalous. this is frederick frederick

douglass' first wife. folk said before i know he had an affair. i read it on the internet. i wasn't looking for smoke. i was trying to tell a story. this is anna marine. she's extremely pivotal and important to his career. if there was no her there would be no him. she was born free in maryland in 1813. she moved to baltimore basically a domestic. part of a free black community. and douglass, because of his just awe disty, he was a slave looked down upon. he was able to kind of make headway to the free black community. they have improvement societies and debate society. it's believed dpowg las met him. anna marie sold of her possessions to finance his

escape. she actually was able to -- she was able to procure douglass' sailor suit. not a -- not really a colonial era history began. he was able to make the escape because he was cam flayinged as -- there were free blacks that were sailor. he procured free papers from somebody else. and able to make his escape up north. he then arrived in new york city. and called for anna to actually married in september of 1838. he later changed his anytime douglass. he was born as frederick washington bailey. like the arrest -- she was pivotal to douglass. schept the home together when douglass was on very long lecturing. he was away for long periods of time. she kept the family together.

like said, douglass had five children. four grew to adulthood. they were extremely close to anna. she died in august of 1882. he's crest fallen. he doesn't know what to do with himself. he writes a letter to his friend. certainly says to grace if it wasn't for my family obligations i wouldn't essentially go to europe and wander the earth for the rest of my days. he doesn't know what to do with himself. he goes to maine in the summer of 1883. the story gets sand louse. i don't get in to it. i tell it as it happened. he married helen in january of 1884. douglass -- excuse me, helen's uncle actually lived right next to frederick douglass. the place is actually named

after him. interesting story, douglass was an abolitionist in new york, he met helen when she was a young girl. her father was an abolitionist. it's believed he merit when he was 8 or 9 years old. when they married, douglass was in the early 60. he's 46. she was college-educate. they didn't bear any children. they lived a very happy life together. anna marie was loyal to frederick. helen was just as loyal. he is buried in new york with wife on either side. [laughter] this is just a actually from the library of congress' collection. the monday night literary club will hold the final meeting saturday june 6th.

douglass did intire -- entertain at his home. howard university people would come there all the time. they would debate politics. it was like bush's have their -- am i other on time? >> you're okay. but we need to end. you can either take question or just go all the way and we'll have -- do you want question or all the way? >> all the way hands. i'm going all the way. you can watch me after word. i'm not hard find. thank you, mr. coal. bushes have the complex and the kennedys have the complex. it's the douglass family compound. goaf douglass, very interesting man. he was the son of charles dog -- douglass. he learned the violin on plantation. he was a fiddler. douglass took an interest to him. he was self-taught himself how to play the violin. he's in dublin it's an

interesting story i tell in the book. [laughter] he's essentialfully dublin and sees a store front with violin and say, hey, i'm interested in buying one. who are you? you don't know how to play the violin. he plays the irish "washer woman ." the business guy is like and call his wife and said so you to see this! he continues and irish folk songs. now in some douglass' lifelong advocacy in irish independence. he took an interest in him. he financed his education, goaf was classically trained. frederick dies before they are ability to perform any duty at the white house. they spend a lot of time together. there's a couple of images of them together. it's rare and i have photographs

of two folks together. douglass took a great interest in his grandson. this is him in the library. frederick douglass. kind of on the lecture platform. -- this is so much stuff i haven't mentioned. why is he called the -- [inaudible] okay he's called old man eloquent. will, he's also called line of it. it struck me. i'll give a shoutout to my friend william. rome -- roam the street making sure everyone is doing right. as i mentioned earlier he would walk through the city streets. ihe always kept a main. alexander due mas saw a printing and saw how he kept the hair. he made a commitment and said i'm going keep my hair that way. even though he married helen who

was white. which was against the law in some states. he never abandoned black folks was a sellout or the other various -- he knew he was a real-life uncle tom. he -- first time i said, you know. he always identified as a black man and person. always championing the cause of black folks, women. it was purposeful he kept the hair the way he did. there's two letter of introduction one from william lloyd garrison and the other from wendell phillips. he took douglass under the wing and gave him life advice. he said, well, you know, young frederick. if you want to tell history, you know, history will only be told the right way when lion's write history. it's believed to be an african proverb. he took to heart.

when he walked around the streets of washington, d.c., he kept that lion image. that flowing main. i don't have -- you can see it pretty good him with the main. good. douglass statute yesterday of unveiled at emancipation hall. douglass really didn't -- he was a "washingtonian." to his heart to his core. this is a newspaper clipping from the "evening star "1895. the meeting last night addressed by mr. douglass. he took on -- talk about staid hood. the term was district suffrage. in his life and times he actually says the people of washington are not people. they are subject, alien. they can't vote. kind of interesting lang twooj call them aliens. so douglass is another cause he championedded. this is metro of african

methodist e episcopal church. it's right around the street from the white house. 1881. it opened in 1886. alexander pane for lincoln scholars know that he met president lincoln. douglass ateandz ceremony. the opening ceremony attending with robert small. a hero congressman from north carolina. he tells douglass when he meets him kibbled -- kind of like bryant playing against jordan. he doesn't know what to say. iwhen i was a slave we passed around your autobiography. we could be discipline. you are live in the flesh. let me shake your hand. they were friend. they both donated

ornamentation. there's two candle lab are a. this is a church that douglass would most frequently attend. he attended bethlehem church. 15th street church inspect is francis grimkey is the pastor. he married him and his second wife in about three minutes. he knew how important black church was to the community. he knew that slavely was never afraid of christianity. he had a difference to organize religion, at the same time he was a frequent attendee at sunday school, exhibitions, in bethel literary society that met here. he was involved with the organization. one of the most famous speeches lessons up the hour delivered in

1894 an anti-lynching speech where douglass kind of start to lose faith in america a little bit. it was delivered at this church. this is the pew marker in today's church for douglass. there's a pew marker for paul lawrence dun -- dunbar. i'll get myself in trouble. they say hef a member of the church. i don't know if he was a member. you have to turn your tax returns and stuff to become a member. it was not like that relationship. he was a supporter of the church. and metro metropolitan is proud of that. this is photograph of douglass later in life. okay. we're almost there. valley place, this is 1326 valley place. it's really bad. these homes are developed in 1885 by henry a. gris waltd. they were buddy.

he invested in the street. when douglass die he owns stock. this is around the corner from douglass' house. he would take the early morning or late evening walks. he would walk past the homes. a shoutout of office of planning. this house a homeowner grant and able to fibbing -- fix up the the assad. it's incredible. t been restored. it's like bad. [laughter] so going for c-span we need help with the home 1326 valley home, southeast. [applause] this is the pan ram -- panorama of the city. this is the monument. got the capitol dome and the stadium where the red skins when

they were really good won the super bowl. this is my friend william. i'm so glad that i can get william on c-span. this is douglass on lower mlk. it's like a burned down building. i'm not going get in what it is going on there. it need help. william is a good friend of mine. he keeps douglass' spirit alive. i include him in the book inspect is the frederick douglass house at night. it's lit up. kind of -- it's really special to even kind of go past it in the evening. this is yesterday's ceremony. he's a nice fellow. down earth, and nice to meet him. and that it. thank you. thank you. [applause] [applause] we'd like to hear from you, tweet us your feed bank,

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he talks about the treasury department terror following 9/11. this is about an hour. >> i want to say thanks to ron -- juan for giving us a chance to host this today. i feel like i i'm spending my entire day with juan. when the alarm went off this morning, his voice was on npr. juan so my whole day is going to be devoted to listening juan. i think it's em beliematic of the significance of the book. the book is really quite good, and, you know, we frequently talk about governments. but what that usually means i want your budget. would you please send it to me. you know, that's usually what you mean when you hear government people talk about whole government. and but what i think we're going listen to today is about what

real whole of government means. when we brought to bear -- honestly an underutilized tool that is available to governments for their national purposes. juan is going describe that to us. discuss it with us today. and one of the champions. one of the pioneers. frequently amasses. is juan a treasury guy or the defense guy? yes. to both. that's been his personal abdication to help build america in many ways. he did it very powerfully during his role in the treasury. we're going explore it today and thereon it. of course, who better to bring this to all of us and engage all of you than rachel martin? i don't know how this lady does it. you know, she -- her husband works for the nsc,

she's with npr with the weekend edition, and has a little 1-year-old at home. she covers -- she has terrorism at home, terrorism at work -- [laughter] , you know, every day. but a remarkable journalist and personality and genuine policy maker. i'm grateful she's willing to take the time tonight to be with us. i will say, juan, i don't know how the hell you convinced her to read your book, but she should have been taking care of her little son. she descroated the time to it and going to make an interesting evening for us. would you, with your applause, welcome both rachel and juan. [applause] ..