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dozen of choices. you have a nonage discrimination, single price point you can shop online prior to making your decision. ..
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weekend look through policy policy -- policy after policy. 31 into your career you pay the same amount starting tomorrow. it's a flat fee. >> i'm not an expert in fe hp. >> i'm a little surprised. it doesn't surprise you that fehbp you are able to move from plant to plan and any pre-existing condition is not a problem right? >> that's my understanding. i'm not sure sure though. >> is true. so it's portable as long as you were within the federal workforce. there's no age discrimination. it doesn't care about pre-existing conditions and you have huge amount of different
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hmos ppos and conventional and you can be covered by 96% of all doctors in america and in all 50 states. in your opinion if all that be through is there any reason that the health care plan that you have and that i have the president and vice president and every member the cabinet that is eligible for shouldn't be made available to the american people? >> that's a policy choice that i leave to people in policy positions. >> if you were not in the federal workforce would you like access to the program you are in now or would you like to go to an exchange? >> i would want to understand my options at a personal level depending on where he lives. >> is there an exchange that has as many choices as fe hfp or anything close? >> i'm not familiar with the array of choices.
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i'm not sure what question you're asking me, sir. >> i'm just asking you for the common sense since fe hsb doesn't have the age discrimination and meets the requirements we are anticipating in the ford will care at why the president and members of congress and the house and senate never opened up the plan they were in. in fact the president has more choices than any exchange in america so people in force into the federal exchanges including my staff and mr. cummings staff will be given less choice would fehbp. i hope you'd be able to answer that but let me review one thing that i heard today because i think it's important. the irs is ready and they had their deadlines and they were timely and in fact there were no known flaws of the irs is's performance as of today. do we need to give secretary civilians sitting here because basically hhs screw this whole thing up. the delays and the ability to get on, all of that comes out of
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hhs and it's not year-end of the business? >> that's not the part we have been working on. >> okay. does this it surprise you that if you go on line and deliver your social security number as you were required to do in order to get a calculation and look at plants and then you decide not to accept the plans and you go to exit because they made you give your social security number and they made -- they have looked up your database in your tax information and they have your e-mail. they sent me back in a mild telling you how much you will have to pay if you don't sign up for the affordable care act? >> i'm not familiar with the way they have sequenced their enrollment process other than i know that some of our folks have looked carefully at the questions that are asked to ensure any tax related him -- tax related items are correct and make sure no text data is displayed on the face machine.
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>> they use your taxpayer database even if someone might not have the insurance and they are just looking at what the exchange would be because they don't know whether they will have insurance. they go through the process and in order to check for a hypothetical enrollment they get that information and they get an e-mail basically the threatening them with the a fine if they don't sign up and that's just an observation of people signing up who are calling our offices and saying i'd wasn't told how much i'd have to pay if i didn't enroll. >> only time we are sent a query is if someone has gotten to the point in whatever exchange it is to say i would like to learn about possible assistance. the way in which those questions are sequence may not be in the form of exchanges that we do not receive a query for every person only if they decide they would like to learn about their systems options. >> can you imagine and i have this question earlier did you ever get a complaint as someone who got a tax credit that wanted their taxes reduced or eliminated? can you imagine everyone not
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checking to to see hey and i get a subsidy? that's going to be universally asked by virtually everybody that goes on line is am i eligible for a tax credit or a subsidy. it's human nature and we established that earlier, don't you agree? >> i think that's their economic interest or curiosity. they are told for the income information that queries will include asking us about their tax data if they don't wish to check the box at that point they can tell us. >> ms. ingram here's the good news. you have literally been saved by the bill. we have run out of inquiries pretty of binge -- very generous with your time. we will make every effort to not have you have to come back for the items we ventured in the record and the items we have not been able to read and with that we thank you for your 31 years of service and we stand adjourned.
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[inaudible conversations] all veterans will be -- if the government shutdown continues. you can see the hearing in its entirety on line at c-span.org. here is a little of what the secretary said. >> the last time a shutdown occurred in 1996 as i'm told our nation was enjoying a sustained period of relative peace. that is not true today. today we are in the 13th year of the war in afghanistan. providing care and benefits to veterans of that war and the war in iraq as well. members of this latest
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generation of veterans are enrolling in va at a higher rate than ever before. they along with the veterans of every preceding generation will be harmed if the shutdown continues. in brief in the last six months through 30 september the veterans benefits administration beat the egg reduce the compensation claims, something we have all been working on and prodding and encouraging them to do better. they have begun that delivery. 193,000 claims in the backlog reduced in the last 100 days a 31.5% increase and a little over six months. since the shutdown began on one october the backlog has solved and in fact has increased by 2000 claims. b.a. has furloughed 7800 of its employees half of whom are veterans. the shutdown directly threatens
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va's ability to eliminate the backlog. we have lost the ground we have fought hard to take in roughly 1400 veterans today are now not receiving decisions on their disability compensation claims due to the -- if the shutdown does not and in the coming weeks va will not be able to assure delivery of why november checks to more than five-point 18 million beneficiaries and that accounts for about $6.25 billion in payments that people are expecting and compensation and pensions independence and indemnity compensation fiduciary educational vocational rehabilitation and deployment of benefits including veterans 100% disabled. surviving spouses eligible children. tuition and stipends for over 500,000 veterans servicemembers
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on eligible family members and education programs will also stop. spin a few moments a debate between the candidates for u.s. senate in new jersey.
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>> she. >> she was a lifelong baseball fan. being in massachusetts and vermont they wear big boston red sox fans. when they went to washington they had little allegiance to the local team down there the washington senators. in our collection we have a number of seasons passes that was given by the american league
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usually they were issued to her either in a wallet or pocketbook. some of the pocketbooks are wonderful art. one of the items in the exhibit is the certificate that she was given by the boston red sox and the washington nationals as they were called in 1955 designating her first lady of the land, first lady of baseball. now a debate between the candidates for u.s. senate in new jersey. the candidates in a special election of the seat of the late democrat steve lautenberg are cory booker and steve lonegan. this is one hour.
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>> good evening. welcome to all of you. we are one week away now from election day like no other and of course the stakes are huge. we are honored to be on the campus of rowan university and we want to thank our partners who have made all this possible from the philadelphian inquired as well as telewindow and the candidates. they are here democrat cory booker mayor of newark new jersey and the republicans steve lonegan former mayor of pagoda. i will be asking them questions along with their panelists with david of news for new york and jonathan tamari from "the philadelphia inquirer." each candidate will have a minute to respond to questions. we will give them a 152nd of bill to let him know they are about to run out of time. some of the questions have come from you the viewers and we really appreciate your help. your work is not quite done though because we want to encourage you all to live to be about today's using the hashtag
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njsen. we encourage you to tweet about the debate. let's get right to the first question. we had a coin toss and randomly the first question would go straight to you mr. lonegan. as you know you are now in the ninth day of the government shutdown was no agreement in sight as far as we can tell. nine days. i would like you to give the great to the members of congress you would like to be joining an a to f grade. grade them on their work so far and without going negative i want you to try to stay positive and not talk about with the opposing party has done wrong but give us a concrete example of what you would do to try to break this impasse. >> john i want to thank the audience john and david as well as my up comment mayor booker. the impasse in washington d.c. is unfortunate and i would like to see it -- however i think it's essentially postpone the implementation of the obama health care plan for one year.
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>> what would you grade the? >> my grade would be a big s for the president who refuses to compromise with republicans and they have offered many compromises in the last week. >> your grade for members of congress? >> my grade for members of congress would be a p as i think they could do a better job in communicating to the american public trade for example the 14th amendment of the united states constitution section for they cannot default on that debt and that is a false -- >> you have 15 more seconds. >> that is a false threat that threatens the economy and the stock markets today and it's something that is unacceptable. >> mr. booker your grade and how you would -- be the grade has to be in f. we sent people to washington to work together to solve our problems in right now we have a government in shutdown being shut down because of tea party extremists in washington that are stopping our government.
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my point is the leader of the tea party here in new jersey and he is somebody who has said i support the shutdown. i believe we need to send people to washington that will bring people together to work together. this is a chance for new jersey to send that message the first election during the shutdown we can send a message to washington. do we want to send more tea party people down there who are so obsessed with obamacare that they want to shut down the entire government to stop health care to more people in america? >> how would you break the impasse though? >> all of us have to decide what is the jersey going to do about it? and more teeth party people to washington or send people like i have regardless of party bringing people together to make a difference for our state. >> a 30-second response. >> mayor i knew your strategists and consultants in your acting coaches would tell you about the tea partied as much as possible.
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keep it up so we can offset the million dollars are getting from michael bloomberg to advance that left-wing liberal agenda. i'm not the head of the tea party. >> just letting no you know you have 15 seconds. spare want to say it was not the head of tea party. i headed up an organization called americans for prosperity. if there was an organization called politicians for their own prosperity you would be a charter member. >> do i get a 30-second rebuttal? >> we are going to move on. if if you are all right without let's do it visit big sticking point in the shutdown is the affordable care act. mr. mayor you have said you support the act would you have said there are problems with it. we have not heard what you think the problems are. specifically can you name any issues that need to be resolved when it comes to the affordable care act also known as obamacare? >> this is a clear distinction between me and my opponent.
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i opponent said he would not have voted for medicare. he said in that quote he would be as callous and uncaring as possible. i believe people go to washington to make issues of health care all of our problems and work to deal with them. obamacare has good aspects. it's actually helping families of children with pre-existing conditions not be at the whim of insurance companies to deny them coverage that help young people like in this audience today to stay on their parents insurance longer. the challenge of obamacare is getting implementation. we have to make sure it's implemented in a way that works for everyone and on top of that we have got to make sure that when we look at obamacare where doing more to control the incredible growth of health care costs in our country. this is very clear. i believe we should have health care or the gentleman to my left believes we should not have government for bite of health care any way whatsoever.
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>> 84-year-old angelina frattini of ocean county told me at a public meeting that she is going to lose her doctor because of obamacare that 30s going to draw thought of the system. a retired nurse told she would lose her health care coverage because of obamacare. obama cares leading to chaos at the marketplace as well as health care of millions of americans. 800,000 new jerseyans have received letters they are being thrown off of their health insurance. the system is not implemented. all we are asking is that we postponed for one year solve the problems and issues can be addressed in them return fund the government to corporations across america major corporate allies of present, have gotten special carveouts. i'm only asking that the individual sitting in this audience get the same cooperation as these
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corporations have. >> let's go to david -- let's move to david ascher if you don't mind. >> jim think you and mr. booker and mr. lonegan good evening. mr. booker you have time -- her time and time again that your points as you are more concerned about what happens in hollywood than in new jersey. some of your supporters have expressed concern that there is unfinished business in newark so how can you assure voters you're interested in serving them? >> first and foremost the city of newark is the star-ledger has said has made undeniable progress. we are going to rebecca's economic development omen the last 50 years. our first office towers are being built and first for tells. companies are moving from panasonic to north american headquarters. in addition to this crime is down reduction in shootings among pop up all of this we have shrunk the size of our
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government spending less money than when i came in and gave what people a thousand dollar tax refund. the challenges we still do have work to do. this is why we need help from washington. they're clear things that i support in washington to help our new jersey cities. for one violent crime. the overwhelming majority of new jerseyans said we should and secondary markets not doing gun checks on gun legislation. my opponent is against sensible background checks that would make our city safer. >> mr. lonegan? >> my opponent talks about economic growth in your newark. is over $100 million for one company to move a block or two. hundreds of millions of dollars of our tax dollars corporate subsidies for the -- when he is partying in hollywood
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and san francisco and making those hollywood deals. at the same time as these massive amounts of money from suburban and rood texas importune newark so he can hand out to his corporate friends and those funding his campaign today unemployment has gone from eight to 14%. unemployment raising racing from eight to 14% is not her. that's a setback for the people of new jersey. >> i would like to respond. it's insulting to me -- not to me but all the people who have come together to work on the issues. right now we are 3% of the state's population but one third of all the development in the entire state is going on in newark. the letter says that's undeniable. i will tell you what's more. he is literally said the solution in camden is to level the whole city. we don't need senators that will talk down to the state.
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roll up their sleeves and work with people to make a difference. >> mr. lonegan governor christie is promoting their cover and adjourned -- jersey shore but you said you would oppose the relief bill thiessen the victims. is it not the role of the federal government through fema to direct aid to those who have become victims of a natural disaster? >> the role of federal government to direct money to victims of famed natural disasters perfectly fine through what i objected to is that it was done in a rush without proper controls to make sure the money went to the real victims. what we are seeing is numerous reports of homeowners on the jersey shore that have been waiting all this time and the other thing i rejected to is the fact of the money for sandy came out of nowhere. it was simply printed out of thin air by the federal reserve bank. there were no cuts in any other part of of the budget that i'd like to see us take away foreign aid from companies that would like to see is killed for building bridges and roads and bring it to new jersey.
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i asked for corresponding spending cuts and control of how the money would be used that would go to victims and not to, major spending spree. i'm sure several hundred million of the money will go to newark new jersey to subsidize the courier booker's -- in that city. >> please listen to what he is saying. he literally would be a senator from new jersey and people are needing an immediate need saying way don't give our families and businesses money. let me work up the larger shoes first. that is absolutely unacceptable to say that -- that is what the tea partiers been doing. he says i'm not a tea partier. think about this. look at who he has coming in and he talks about hollywood folks. he has three tea party people coming in. sarah palin endorsing him. rand paul endorsing him and who is the third person?
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oh yes a rick perry. [applause] this is the tea party that he would join down in washington this shutdown politics. don't give san diego and cut the minimum wage. this is the extreme tea party agenda of which he has been running in the state of new jersey. >> i want to ask a follow-up to you because there was a published report this week that said you did go to the democratic governor of new jersey governor corzine to ask for state aid for your town. so that's okay? >> absolutely. the taxpayers in the rural areas have been ripped off for 30 years. they gave us a sales tax to cut property taxes. they passed income tax that would cut property taxes. although sales tax money is poured into a big black hole in newark. the tax dollars go to newark new jersey. when the mayor fights to get the money that which we were told we
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would have for property tax relief that is my job. every mayor in the state of new jersey knows that. >> may respond please? he was the mayor of the city that had financial stability and then when he rand the budget into a ditch and no way of balancing its budget he ran to jon corzine for what was called extraordinary the extraordinary aid bailout for his city for the small town of dakotas. i inherited budget nightmare 700 million could. we not only don't serve budget and shrunk the size of our government that we gave tax rates of $1000. one mayor who ran his city into a ditch had to ask for bailout and another one that cleaned up the financing. >> lets get out of the ditch and move to jonathan with a viewer question. >> dan raises a question about crime in newark. the number of murders fell to manically but have ticked upwards every year since 2008. dan asked us questions.
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what makes you believe you should be elected to higher office if you can't fix networks crime problem? >> appreciate the problem. right now statistic show that shootings in newark since i've been elected from 2006 are down 27%. murders are down over 15%. we have not only done that the done that with less resources than my predecessor. we brought people together to drive down crime. republicans and democrats rolled up their sleeves and joined with us to help with re-entry programs to help people who come out of prison not go back. we were created and innovative doing more with less. my opponent solution to big cities is less level camden and talks down newark really need a senator going to washington that will do the things to lift up our entire state. one state with one destiny. critical federal issues are not solved yet light background checks in the secondary markets
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which my opponent opposes. he is getting support from the nra dropping money into his campaign. we believe it should be background checks rational federal legislation to empower safety not just in newark at all over the state. >> mr. booker a follow-up on the statistics. a statistic not kept way the state police or the fbi, there were 67 murders in 2008 and 95 last year. if is that progress on crime? >> again we lead the nation under my mayorship led the nation and dropping down shootings and murders in our state so yes we ticked back up nowhere near the city i inherited. we are down 15% and murders and again the guns in newark to not come from new jersey. they come from other states that have blacks gun laws that don't do background checks and we allow federal law to allow that to happen. the nra are supporting the tea party leader here in new jersey selling to make sure we get real
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federal legislation just dollop dollop -- start background checks. >> mayor booker talked about my $100,000 in state aid. that's less than one sixth of the money he got back as a payroll for the millions of dollars of contracts over his former law markers. as the mayor of pagoda crime dropped 30% because i put more police on the streets. under cory booker and month ago ago -- shot to death in the streets of newark while he was on the jimmy fallin show telling people what a great job he was doing in newark. that is not a great job. my opponent was running around san francisco promoting himself. >> mr. lonegan public opinion full show brought expand -- support for expanding ground checks. >> i support the nra no gun
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dealers or gun enthusiast want criminals to buy guns. i don't believe any of the crimes in newark were committed by illegal gun owners. in the last debate the mayor admitted it's not legal gun owners who died -- who commit crimes. it's criminals. criminals don't pay attention to the loss. >> that is what is in place right now. are you saying you will not support expansion of that? >> the problem with what you are talking about is national background checks if i wanted to give my firearm to my daughter is 29-year-old girl who works late at night and working across a dark or cannot and cannot defend herself under new jersey law. if i wanted to give her a right to defend herself i couldn't do it without a background thread. that's an intrusion into our privacy. >> what about it then shows?
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>> new jersey doesn't have gun shows. we don't sell guns at gun shows in new jersey. >> you would be making decisions on national legislation. >> i would not support an expansion of something that would invade our legal rights. >> we ask you not to applaud. >> yes please understood -- and and assemblies that these against having that ground checks at gun shows which means in the niceties of america with people in mumbai terrorism. you can get on a plane in the work airport -- you can drive to gun shows fill up a trunk full of weapons and drive to the cities of new jersey and uses. 90% of american people and the majority of new jerseyans believes simple background checks at gun shows to stop the weapons coming into the city and
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we know they are coming from gun shows because we stop the gun runners and find out where they got their guns. this is common sense and we should be doing it. 84% of of gun over sin agree with this. your way on the stream on this issue. >> lets move onto another hot button issue which is same-sex marriage. thethe a judge recently legalizd in new jersey. we know mr. lonegan you have taken issue with that and you say that should be left for people to decide that a recent poll found more than half of new jerseyans support same-sex marriage so we want to ask you what rights do you believe same-sex couples should have? >> first of all it's not the role of of the judiciary or one judge to make the law. that's up to the legislature and the people of state to decide. the legislature acted and the governor vetoed it and the legislature could not override the veto. while i support marriage between a sacred institution marriage between a man and a woman is the
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raiders institution ever devised to raise a child. it's about children and i support traditional marriage however i do believe in liberty and the right of an adults who live a life they way they should choose. consequentially i don't want at the rubes forcing their value system down the throats of my catholic church or in evangelical churches and overriding our institutional religious beliefs. >> is a fundamental ideal in america the separation of church and state. we must respect churches and mosques and institutions but another fundamental balance to that is the idea that we are all it will under the law that our government treats all citizens regardless of background and belief equally. i would not be standing here right now if it was left to legislatures to say we are going to treat all people regardless of their back rounder color of their skin equal. this is a fundamental principle in american law. law. equality under the law.
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the same treatment by our government if you law someone to me it's something that is good the majority of new jerseyans believe in. this is the problem. he says he supports liberty but you can be free to marry who you want. he supports liberty but he wants politicians getting between a woman and her doctor about her own health care decisions. he is not against liberty of women that the women having the right to choose what they do with their own bodies even if they are raped and they are victims of freeport. these are extreme tea party views in my opponent -- >> can i go back to one thing you mentioned vecsey said this is about children. are you saying same-sex children should not be allowed to have children? >> that would be a biological phenomenon. >> there is adoption. there is artificial insemination. [applause] >> please no applause. >> the decision should be made by the legislature and by the
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people of new jersey. >> i'm asking you should same-sex couples be allowed to adopt children or use a surrogate? >> i have a question of how healthy that will be in the long run for children and i've mixed feelings about that. >> lets move to david with a question on jobs. >> mr. broker something you have referenced in the debate and that is how he made urban renewal a high priority but the unemployment rate is at 14% nearly double the new jersey average of 8%. should voters question whether you can handle as a senator if he couldn't get ahold of that unemployment rate as the mayor? >> because new jersey had such a way that development are percentage change was a lot less than the state of new jersey as a whole. please understand as i said before newark is having such a booming development that we represent one third of all the development looking at square
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footage than the entire state. my opponent might say that's not enough. we say we are continuing -- tomorrow we will announce at whole foods is moving at 29,000 square foot store into the middle of newark another sign that developers and businesses are coming. our population is increasing for the first time in 60 years. the city of newark sprout grass is unmistakable and the most common -- you see newark is the crane because there is -- are so many cranes putting up steel. >> some have complained that some are expensive property owners that had to pay a higher property tax. >> that is not true at all. we have property taxes -- when when governor christine i last week stood together to announce a 130 million-dollar, cut the ribbon on a hundred and $30 -- million dollar project we
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announced the project. we were doing it together to decrease the tax base of our entire state. companies of business is not in new jersey before are now coming to her biggest city hearkening back to the days when newark was the economic driver for the anti-or state. >> the only birds in newark of the vultures. the political hacks are picking away at the carcasses of the taxpayers of that city. the real taxpayers in the small business that you are destroying when he hand out hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate handouts and subsidies that for those that are politically connected to you. unemployment is up 14% almost double the national average. that is a failure in anybody's book and i need to do is go to any small business and they will tell you how they are being crashed by overregulation runaway crime random high school
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dropout rates. it's a complete mess. >> lets move onto foreign affairs for a moment ebo says america's role to be a police force around the world. this past week abc news tried to capture groups of the militant groups responsible for the attack of the mall and kenya. there were no americans among the dead as far as we know. do you support this kind of deployment of u.s. military force and we will start with you. >> i do not support the deployment of military forces as my opponent has put on his web site. he supports of a small interventions. we do not need to be involved in the small intervention and i would remind you the bodies of five u.s. military men for soldiers hammering will be returned from afghanistan. the presidents refusing to fund the death benefits for the soldiers. the presidents refusing to pay for the billiards of those soldiers to meet with the bodies
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of these men who died unnecessarily and aware that this president said he is going to end and is gone on longer than it did under george bush. these unnecessary interventions. >> i don't knock my opponent is running against me or running against barack obama. >> both. [applause] >> the reality is the reason why those benefits aren't there for these folks coming home don't you understand this because a group of tea party people shut down our government. this is not the presidents fault. it's people or the republicans fault -- if tea party people like ted cruz foods you say our heroes to america. if you want more should down politics is like pouring gasoline on a fire. if you want to end shut down
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politics and the extremism and do the things our government should do supporting veterans and children in new jersey now suffering with the risk of losing a head start dollars. this is the probably have. we send people to washington to work together to do the work as opposed to someone going down there and supporting the shutdown and willing to expend it. >> anybody in the world who says anybody who stands up for american liberty -- anybody that doesn't agree with you you will work against. this is same president who shut down the world war ii memorial to the rape world war ii veterans who defended this country but opening up the mall to it illegal immigration rally. >> is your party in any way responsible for this impasse which is led to the situation? >> members of my party the republican party have introduced a series of bills to provide funding to all of these issues. barack obama has refused to
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negotiate because they want to jam obamacare down our throats at any expense. this election in new jersey as a referendum on obamacare the nsa the irs abuse of power the intrusion torts children's education and the destruction of our liberty. my opponent is a hollywood standard. >> that was a long list so -- >> listen to my opponents rhetoric. listen to his positions. it seems like he's doing more to run and replace rush limbaugh then frank lautenberg here that's is the writer that will drive further divisiveness. please understand we have a lot of disagreements from our sports teams to the fact that he is lending weight and i'm gaining weight. the reality is he the endive for together as partners in education and economic development.
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every press is showing the progress of newark. tomorrow looking forward to standing with republicans to open holt foods to bring another few hundred jobs to our city. >> lets move to another issue. >> you have given mott and adds to my opponent throughout the whole debate. >> what's on your mind? >> my opponent has mentioned chris christie over and over again. although governor chrissy and i have the same position on abortion and aired she continues to hold up governor christie as though you're being due endorsed by governor christie. he never mentioned his running mate are pro bono. how does barbara bono feel about run -- being thrown under the bus? >> please understand that
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election is in november in ours is wednesday. i am running as cory booker. all you can do is condemn every democrat that comes up. that's the kind of tea party approach from washington. >> mayor irs's specht barbara blown out and she deserved deserves more respect than you. >> education is an issue that cuts to the garden state. sometimes charter schools are better and sometimes a salmon sometimes worse. how can you be so supportive? >> first of all public education is the bedrock of our state. we need to do everything we can to continue to make new jersey's public education the best in america. in newark people have no authority over education whatsoever. the it's under governor christie state control. newark new jersey has one of the highest performing charter
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schools sectors in the country because we brought together resources to our city to improve our charters. my opponent and i have very different views on public education. my opponent exodus says he would get rid of the entire federal department of education. what would that mean for new jersey? i with them we would lose out on resources for everything from kids with autism to disadvantaged kids. it would also mean someone he doesn't support is making college more affordable for students. students here right now he's against the g.i. bill and other things that make college in new jersey more affordable. i support public education for colleges to k-12. our planet would take money away from public schools. >> it's a nonfact that new jersey only gets back pennies on the dollar to money we send to washington d.c..
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you don't have to be a mathematician to figure that out. we have a much better education before in the state but in newark one of the most expensive school districts in united states of america where spending has almost doubled in communities like pagoda from one end of the state of the affair has a high school dropout rate of 50%. this mayor has failed a generation of students for seven years in a row. thousands of children who are now going to become poverty -- without a high school degree. the best education is done by empowering a child and teacher in your city proves that. >> lets move to jonathan with a question on the debt ceiling. >> an issue going on right now
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debate at this moment because whoever ends this race will arrive in washington as the federal government hits as borrowing limit. starting with with mr. broker will you vote for it deal that prevents the default even if it includes provisions that you impose -- opus? right now in washington or she may envy see this now with people including my opponent who are saying we need to not fund fund -- they have a no compromise at and my opponent says he is no compromise. i law this woman he said working together is winnie the pooh nonsense. i don't know -- but the reality is we need people that will raise the debt ceiling in the play the shutdown politics that place with the full faith and credit of the united states of america. this brinksmanship has to stop in washington. it hurts our economy. it shrinks jobs. we need people that will go to washington and not the
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firebrands and flamethrowers but bridge builders and find ways to make reasonable compromise between the party so yes i support compromise and yes i support working together. it is what i've done in newark and what i would do in washington and try to tamp down the extreme tea party that refuses to compromise. >> he has always had to work with the opposite party unlike my opponent who is head and knocked democratic counsel and managed to have one of his council meetings erupt into pure riot. i wouldn't support raising the debt ceiling with careless spending cuts. when to start cutting the size of government. it's simply too big and too intrusive and mayor booker wants to make it even bigger. i want to see limited government we are spending too much. we are mortgaging our children's future and headed towards economic collapse if we don't start cutting spending. made of oak or does not don't
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have to do that. >> the president and senate democrats have said they would not back the sheet over the debt ceiling. if they do do not negotiate would you vote against raising the debt ceiling despite the warnings of the consequences? is. >> the warnings and consequences are defined in the united states constitution. i i don't know about you but i am still paying the taxes so that revenue is pointed toward the federal government so they can pay their debt but when the president says we will not negotiate that is not working together. that's a very clear message. we will not compromise. you do it our way or no plate and sometimes as time to stand and fight and i'm proud that republicans are standing up. >> wanted to ask you mr. lonegan you talk about deep cuts of size of government and talked about the department of education. which agencies would would whict
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cut out specifically? >> lets not talking this weird platform. >> which agencies to believe are necessary? >> the federal department of education. that's probably the biggest one and the department of commerce the department of energy. entries are very atari agencies. we need to cut regulations on small businesses. the environmental protection agency is crushing businesses across the state including in newark and every community. we need to roll back regulations under sunsetting. sunsetting. the rail atari bodies and re-examine -- there's a lot that can be done in a 3.5 chilean dollar budget. it's time government starts limit spending the way we americans have to do every day. >> has made the city of nerd we shrunk our debt dramatically. i agree we need to make sure
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government lives within its means. but the tea party extremists in washington and my opponent leaves they want to get rid of regulation. that's code word for pulling back the government for doing things that both you and i rely him. he wants to get rid of medicare and think social security is safe ponzi scheme. when he talks about the epa he talks about giving oil and gas companies free reign. knowing that i have the river running through my city scene that contaminants that would allow people to swim and burning industries like clamming and others we need to make sure their protections. the delaware river we have the pullback of the epa to let fracking go on. it could pollute our water so i believe in shrinking government responsibly and not pulling back the protections that protect their food and water and are air and our safety.
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>> used side. i thought you wanted to respond. >> i think mayor booker's vision is that of t-boned. you may not build a swim in the river because of all of the bodies floating around from the shooting victims. >> oh my god. >> oh my god. you use words like tea party and extremists. if you raise a family built a small business stand up for this country and stand up for limited government your idea of working together is calling people extremist. there are a lot of extremists in this audience today. >> this is what you think of our city. >> hold your applause until the end. >> this is what he thinks of our city. there are bodies floating -- how insulting is that to people working together? this is insulting to go talk about camden and my vision is two -- the city.
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we don't need a sector that's going to talk down to our new jersey cities. we need senators who will lift up the state make us understand insures the there's no north-south urban suburban but one state with one destiny. >> let's go to jonathan with a question about entitlement benefits. >> a big budget deal that could solve the government crises but obviously that would require both sides to accept things they don't like. would you support raising the retirement age social security are the changes to the program is part of a big deal on taxes and spending? >> that is how we are going to solve the larger problem. social security something that my opponent literally has called the biggest threat to our democracy and called it a ponzi scheme. to privatize it and end it. i believe they're rational fixes we could do to protect it. such as raising the social security payroll for the richest
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amongst us to pay a little bit more and preserve the system for everyone. it's common sense solutions but your question was what i said at the table and compromise and work together? my answers absolutely is yes. take center menendez who just compromise on a bill for immigration. eight senators came together and they compromise. my opponent rejects that compromise. he thinks is not a solution we should have. we need to send people to washington who want to work together to solve problems. >> you talked about raising the tax to fund social security. would you make changes as republicans have asked to reduce benefits by raising the retirement age? would you reduce it if that was part of a compromiscompromis e deal? >> we talked to seniors across your state who will answer security and asked them shall we be reducing their benefits? it's barely enough in the high
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cost of new jersey. i don't favor reducing benefits. we need to make sure that we are doing things to strengthen social security. commonsense things around the table working together to make sure our senior citizens are not in poverty but have security and a way to make sure that they can join -- >> mr. lonegan shavuot privatize social security? >> i have a mother who is now 80 years old who worked hard for 30 years paid into medicare and social security and deserves those benefits but mayor booker supports a plan under barack obama to cut three-quarters of a trillion dollars out of medicare. those seniors have paid into that program all of their lives like my mom. they have a right to the full benefits but you don't see a rationing for those benefits under obamacare. social security needs to be
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reformed so we don't have the problem with less and less people coming into the system and more and more retirees and everybody knows that raised the his plan is to allow the private market. what would that do is to take iraq out of people paying into the system and it would endanger the whole system. >> if what mayor booker is saying is that you have these people at the top of the system collecting but allowing the people at the bottom to the payen to help the people at the top what you're describing is a pyramid scheme. social security is not supposed to be a pyramid scheme. people pay for their social security. what you are describing is -- >> it was designed by fdr and republicans working together to design a system that would last.
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telling people not to go under the private market and letting wall street decide their fate. we believe democrats and republicans -- you were at the extreme. even republicans are saying we can to commonsense things. that is where the negotiation should be. >> out what young people to have the opportunity to go into the current system. it needs to be maintained or the same money going into the cry really owned investment fund. imagine the money they would have by the time they are 65. imagine if you had all your money in the bank that would make you wealthy. many people would be wealthy but the difference between me and cory booker is he does not trust people to invest their money. he doesn't want to give you the ability to invest your own money. he wants a government to do everything for you. >> lets move today. >> this issue is reemerge during
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the campaign so getting a chance to clarify. in 2,000,007 the reports in several newspapers that -- [inaudible] the voting record reports the workers pick them up an area where workers are not to be. the campaign web site says you opposed proposals to give amnesty and citizenship to as many as 11 million undocumented immigrants of the question being are you only okay with illegal immigrants working in the country? >> i love biased reporting. i tried to hire two men and they never ask the started work. one of them actually was so you have to go by what somebody says. i know that immigration is an important part of this country and we will have immigrants coming to the country. my grandparents were italian immigrants and they came through ellis island. they had to have a sponsor and they came legally.
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we will not deport 11.5 million people. everybody knows that. we want to secure orders and we need to deport illegal alien criminals but my opponent cory booker has made newark new jersey a sanctuary state for illegal criminals. you can commit vandalism and you can assault somebody and you will be protected from ice. here's the message if you are an illegal immigrant and they criminal go to newark. that is raising crime rates. >> that is not true. your words don't hurt me but your policies hurt the people of new jersey. let's be very clear right now. mr. lonegan engages in hypocrisy. he's against government to collect 78 the bland is city was in trouble he ran for a bailout. he's against having undocumented workers get amnesty but when he
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had a business and ran the business he hired undocumented workers. this is the reality we have with mr. lonegan. americans for prosperity sound really get the prosperity sir he got paid a quarter million dollars last year to run a campaign against raising the minimum wage. in other words he made $100 an hour to stop people in new jersey from making $8.50. this kind of hypocrisy is not good policy. what we need to have his people working together to hammer out compromises to make us have an immigration system that builds her country but also protects our orders. >> a quarter of a million dollars. >> let's get to an issue about how you portray portray yourself in some of her public speeches. there have been reports about a murder victim is supposedly died in your arms in newark one night. there are reports that say you
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were on the scene assisting but the victim max wade died in the arms of a woman who was on the front steps. what really happened that night? >> thank you very much. this is unfortunately another attack m.i.t. party friend in this campaign saying after person was shot i was trying to stop him from bleeding to death and he fell into cardiac arrest. >> he died at the hospital. >> he was officially declared dead at the hospital but he had cardiac arrest at the time. this is the distraction we have from the tea party opponents. trying to say was a cardiac arrest or death? the reality is we have too much violence in our inner cities in new jersey. what's the plan we have to stop that violence? here's another case of gun violence in my city where he tried desperately to save somebody's life but unfortunately he died. as we see in newark is the
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result the weapons pouring from out-of-state entire state. you've heard clearly a believe these gun show should have background checks. my opponent doesn't think we should have background checks. >> this whole issue is not about where he physically died but about how you portray yourself in the stories and speeches to the public as you go around the country to your alma mater in other places. there's another story about a character named t-boned who you admitted was a composite -- here's your chance to set the record straight and to tell us whether it gets to the core of whether you are embellishing stories to prop yourself up. >> again we have police on the scene that corroborate everything i said. i have my former opponent the police director is not part of my team to confirm there was indeed a t-boned and this was the common name during the time i was living in one of the most dangerous areas in the state.
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is he in cardiac arrest, was he dead? the reality is it's a person ... and one of the more violent neighborhoods that my city is experiencing everyday. the problem is these stories are all too common. hundreds of people in our state from camden to patterson being victims of gun violence in the key is what will we do as united states senators to help stop that violence? >> did you want to respond to this? >> i never brought up this man in my campaign. it was exposed by a major news publication. >> this is a gentleman he died. died. >> the 19-year-old young man who apparently stumbled into the mayor's arms which did not happen. he did not stumble into his arms and he did not sign his arms. i find it deeply disturbing that an elected official uses the death of someone to parade
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around the country and build himself up. it really shows a lack of judgment in many ways. >> the lack of judgment of someone talking about bodies floating in rivers in my city. the lack of judgment is condemning cities and exaggerating violence as opposed to doing practical things. 84% of gun outburst -- gun owners say there's too much gun balance of me to stop criminals by putting in clearly needed background checks to stop criminals from getting them at gun shows. >> is hard to exaggerate violence when there are so many people being shot on your watch. >> you or disrespectful of every city in our state. >> let's go to jonathan with a question about oral models. >> starting with mr. lonegan
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name a sitting senator that you admire and tell us why. >> i admire mike lee and i admire ted cruz. i admire rand paul and i admire marco rubio. i also admire -- those who hold the line and those who get up and advocate for liberty who stand up against big government the way the founding fathers did. that is why i admire them because they are not afraid to stand on principle and stand up for a bill of rights and they will take the hit from the media from the opposition and stand tall. they just don't back off and that is why i'd marry them. >> mr. booker. >> i admire a lot of senators on both sides of aisle by kip senators you came together and hammered out a compromise. there are parties trying to work together and get things done. he was a congressman that supported me in my efforts to
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people like olympia snowe and dick lugar. if you look at the list of people he named they are the far right extremists of the tea party people. if you want to send another tea party person who is responsible for shutting down american government and wants to send an extremist to washington who is playing russian roulette with their full faith and credit. i admire people on both sides of the aisle. people who are able to put aside their differences and work together to get things done for the people of the united states of america. that is what we elect people to do. not to shut them down. to come together and work together to do the work of the american people. >> we are almost out of times the next question is 30 seconds each of you would. what is the biggest change you hope to make in the senate? >> i would like to introduce a bill that will repeal every revelatory body of regulation on
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a regular basis and re-examine the role of that and free up american enterprise and businesses to prosper. we need to create real jobs in the private sector to -- government programs like the ones we see in newark that costs taxpayers millions and billions and result in a 14% unemployment rate. >> he wants to repeal the clean water and clean air act and regulations to keep our food safe and clean. my biggest goal is to go to washington and do things to create jobs. do the kinds of things america should be doing investing in infrastructure so we can have great projects like the one in this region a rail line that creates businesses along the light rail. invest in higher education make higher education more affordable. the greatest thing we can do to be competitive is to help young people of today. >> investment is a code word for higher taxes.
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give us our freedom and the people of this country will create all the jobs we need. >> i would love to give more freedom to women. i would love it if you would get more freedom to women to make their own health care decisions as that of saying you want close planned parenthood even in the cases of rape and. if you want labor to give it to americans. if you want liberty give it to women to make their own health care decisions. >> i would like to respond. he has attacked me on this abortion issue because i'm pro-life but this man supports tax payer funded abortions to the day delivery. what abortion would you ban and under what circumstances would you been? tell the people what abortion to a ban. >> i would tell the american people exactly what i won't stand for. i believe in roe v. wade. it was decided by our supreme
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court and i will stand by defending it for people like him to want to repeal roe v. wade. if the woman is a victim of rape or tea thinks abortion should be illegal. what i'm saying to you is if you believe in liberty than give liberty back to women and make make -- let them make their own health care decisions. >> the follow up to that is the mayor is scared to death of the far left pro-abortion lobby. he supports abortions funded by taxpayers up to the day of delivery for any reason whatsoever. you can see it on cokie roberts show on my web site. tell us what a bad -- a abortion ban. >> a woman's health care decision should be between her and her doctor and we should defend roe v. wade and make criminal abortions --
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even in the case of rape and. you don't need to go to cokie roberts. >> amore during -- imagine aborting a baby in the eighth month of pregnancy. he supports that. >> that is not true and it's unfortunate -- again our views on this a very distinct. >> mine is clear. >> want to make abortion illegal in the cases of rape and? >> i love the sanctity of life. you will board a baby in eight months of -- the we are out of time and we don't have time for closing statements as we moved upon -- beyond that. we want to thank you for the live debate and taking part tonight. went to thank our panelists for taking part as well with great questions and thanks to rowan university for hosting us tonight. this conversation continues on nbc 10.com and c all maxie i tv.
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don't forget to vote today. [applause] majority whip senator durbin commented on today's prayer as he talked about the government shutdown. >> let us pray. zero coke god in his presence our souls take delight. to whom an affliction we call for give us for continuing to sow to the wind event when hearing the sounds of the approaching world wind. lord when our federal shut down
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delays payments of death benefits to the families of children dying on faraway battlefields, it's time for our lawmakers to say enough is enough. cover our shame with the robe of your righteousness. forgive us. reform us and make us whole. we pray in your merciful name. amen. >> madam president. each morning the senate opens with the customary prayer by the chaplain and the pledge of allegiance. this is an opportunity for members of the senate to reflect on two important things.
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first our mission on earth not just as elected officials but as human beings and second our devotion and loyalty to this great country. i have listened to most of of the prayers that have been offered over the last nine days of the government shutdown by dr. barry black. he's a retired admiral finance its navy and came this morning to offer a prayer. this prayer had a very important message to it. it was short and direct. it talks about this government shutdown. he reflected on the fact that we literally have families come, the families who in the last few days had that awful knock on the door where they were told that their son had died in service to this country in the united states military. five over the weekend and i understand 17 during the course of this government shutdown and sadly the support which we always give to these families is not fair. it's not there.
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customarily within 24 to 36 hours they are given a sum of money in advance on the benefits that soldier turned so they can take your funeral expenses and the obvious needs of their families. we can't do that because the government is shut down. an awful knock on the door was not followed by the consolation of this government helping these families. and the offer to many of these families an opportunity to come and to be there to welcome at dover elf -- air force base the return of their fallen hero. we can't offer them that and if it does the government is shut down. dr. blacks plaxo to all of us this morning all of those who believed the government shutdown is just another political gambit what he said we should remember and his words were then simple. enough is enough.
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enough is enough. it isn't just a matter of these families losing that loving son combo that husband come for the other. it's a matter that our government that asked them to risk their lives for this great nation will not stand by them in this moment of grief. yesterday the junior senator from texas came in and said i think we have voted to take care of that. it's not true. what is happening now is the house of representatives which refuses to reopen the government is now scurrying to pass a little bill to take care of these families. let's get that bill and they said. we don't want to face the embarrassment of another headline like this. that isn't enough madam president. it isn't nearly enough because the embarrassment of this government shutdown goes beyond this grievous situation with these briefing families. it goes to so many different
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levels. think about this for a moment terry at in the united states of america when it comes to infant formula for babies 60% of the infant formula is sold through one government program called with. women's infants and children's program. it's a program that brings them pregnant mothers and moms with new babies and does its level best to make sure those babies are healthy and off to a good start in life. in my state of illinois the largest county cook county 50,000 mothers depend on the way. the wic program that provides the basics for helping moms and healthy programs. the wic program will run out of money this month. and when it does the support for these families, for these moms and for these babies is in danger. why are we doing this?
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.. the. >> have access to a doctor and the age ears. i just love them to pieces because they put their whole lives investing in helping
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people. they told me despite this that this that they feel or the acre over the shutdown there is a feeling of elation found in the easter egg -- exchanges several bet people say he would not believe it but i qualified for health insurance for the first time in my life. visa the people now that drives some on the other side crazy to think obamacare would go forward. over 250 fell six -- over 250,000 in my state have visited the web site hours is the most successful state but the state of kentucky is one of the most successful of ready to of thousand have signed up for health
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insurance. this is part of the debate in washington. betty are arguing is we have to shut down the government is shut down obamacare stop these people from signing up. they cannot reverse history it has spent on the books enacted by congress signed by the president judge constitutional by the u.s. supreme court. when president obama was said i will fight for affordable health care a and health care reform the republican candidate said i will abolish it. the president won the election by 5 million votes that is the judgment of the american people how we got a democracy.
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those that will never accept the election they think with the death monday they can overcome they are wrong. food safety and inspection services announced 270 people mostly california have reported being ill. they are working with the cdc along with state and local officials. that said the government shutdown these are not fully
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staffed. because of this republic can shut down strategy. it be in sid illness they will get over but for zero other -- others it is more serious. enough is enough. that would recede the piecemeal approach from the house of representatives where they see the ghastly headlines be reading families that are denied basic benefits to be offered to those who have fallen in service with a face that embarrassment they quickly manufacturing a spending bill to cover it. we will take care of that. jackie cheese calls it walkable long -- whck-a-mole. but the 14 bills passed by the house approximately
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$83 billion of funding the total amount from the original house passed it to doing resolution who have
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lost their loved ones now they are asked to suffer because of the republican shutdown. yesterday on the floor asking people to step up a and joining us. suitor hopefully rather than later if we default on october 78 it will be the first time in the history of the united states that will ochre and have a devastating impact on businesses and jobs and the savings of americans if you have a savings or retirement account have you been watching it over the last several days? had to see what the republican shutdown has done for your future?
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i yield the floor.
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>> give us what you saw what the press and the media. >> usually with some hostility, it is the natural state of affairs between the white house and the press corps because that is just
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the nature of what the press needs to you do to catch though white house out on whatever is going on. >> thank you very much. good evening, ladies and gentlemen. it is really nice to be back. there praying cpac happy
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memories to the library and every wednesday evening the time the sheriff a professor. i always wanted the opportunity to extend and i can of that opportunity today. in my capacity as the chinese ambassador also for your continued support for the relations between china and the united states. particularly you are helping to train so many diplomats of the ears. -- over the years. but i assure most of the people would be members.
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[laughter] today i will talk about foreign policy in the relations between china and the united states. i have to confess i enjoy it much mayor more than the speech itself i probably will not take up 40 minutes i will make a relatively short was question and answer. the first to just a few words on china's foreign policy. and i promised i would not repeat the official line. [laughter] but the official position how it could be seen because
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china's foreign policy has ben affected many people have studied or discussed or lectured with the subject of misunderstood. so a revisit to this policy at this level for a closer look at china is history and the culture it is extremely important. and to connect the dots of history and culture and for policy is even more important.
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china's foreign policy could be summarized in a very simple the independent foreign policy. here i have a few words i believe these two words actually define the nature of the whole policy. why independence is so important for the country? to force china has been independent country for many centuries. we cherished independence very much. it is one of our fundamental values. but from 1,843rd 1949, the
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china was invaded by foreign powers time and again. and lost much of the independence. for instance the customs service 1861 through 1911 in china was coerced into 343 evil treaties at some point. they could have had the images in silver a.m. to china lost 1.6 million. said during that period was
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not treated with the respect coverage justice or fairness of the world stage. but from the turn of the 20th century most of it is the chinese in the struggle to regain the independence. but then to have reorganization and. all nations before china almost lost independence was
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saved. that experience are with the chinese people most independents -- all this so dearly if it is sociological that it becomes one of the fundamental principles of china's foreign policy. but i must emphasize here that when we talk about this century of national humiliation we are not talking about seeking revenge. we just want to have our independence and sovereignty like the rest of the world. now we know that but it is a horrible place for all.
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we can take history as savior and the guidance. what was done to us will never be done to anyone. any more. and that would be. >> have you say please internet? >> but at the same time we have witnessed the knitted is tough for the international community.
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but today i want to focus on the section that is that some material or tangible but moral and profound. to best describe this as a use but this could be translated into other words but peace and harmony in reconciliation and integrated a.m. benevolence with many others. we believe harmony should be achieved by accommodating
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diversity that is why i said it means harmony in real also believe we have good fortune to everybody. even the chinese term for peace looking at it closely. [laughter] it actually means by following the us period.
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and is the most precious thing under the heaven and. in an end this concept dash that crudest officials so many people writing to redress from the communities. of so it'd is a matter and it is only natural it should find its way into our foreign policy. we're both in the year and if the yen doesn't matter of policy in the way of life. so rues the appreciation in a of close church juniors -- understand? is what i understand is the for policy and of the
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peaceful settlement of the dispute. of course, we safeguard our independence and sovereignty but this is just to make sure people can live in peace. we believe it must be confronted with force in accordance with the provisions of the united nations chapter. but others are resolved through peaceful means such as dialogue, negotiation, media tion and a mutual accommodation. but to maintain the policy
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of peace with the nation that is a vivid david -- united states. i know our foreign policy better than had over from a is the most important also the most nests the most promising seven in thanks thatcher urged efforts. but many communications at
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the top level. the top level. the two countries and now were keen together to build a new model this hon the win-win cooperation in. this low from the new attitudes of the world of the 21st century it is a lot of and interest for both countries in the international community. the fact that china in the united states together shows the determination of both to break the old cycle in to
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open up new prospects. during if we didn't have providence but if we really do not want to have a lose/lose situation, this coming endeavor of powers requires an wisdom, but she said she had to do come and also be aware. first, we have a few more
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people than you do it and our country is a little bolder. we speak different languages and enjoy different coachers in a we have very different but each but surely the understanding is a differences in the necessities recent tennessee yet having this in the light. a capricious to vote goes to the issues then and it that we serve for a change but to
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lay the foundation for constructive and prevention anaheim despite our differences our common interests far outweigh them.
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put the two sides agree file lateral investment schrieffer accursi ag other places are established. it was once concluded of the tremendous opportunities for american business. an edition in china has just set up a private free agent should -- free chain battles of the set to open up, we're
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both permanent members the ratio of the responsibilities of peace and security. more over, one of the biggest and most pricey challenges also for security said no security than disease prevention and poverty on a national crime. all according to the joint effort.
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>> they have a high-level confrontation for people that change. will live for word to the face to be held in washington d.c. and november. mike keyword is responsibility. but also has a major impact on the asia-pacific region and the world as a whole. so the stakes are really high. the half to beat each show
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respect the other's major interests and concerns. each should act cautiously with concern to the other. neither should allow itself to be taken advantage of by any third party and other people's struggles can become our problem. the responsibility means acting positively. lazaro is difficult to use but the approach were produced with positive results. we should always make our best effort to extend common interest and to manage the
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differences in a constructive way. the responsibility also means what country? we should have the availability to look for word in show there its roots in irresponsible use are of the fear of my a but i have full confidence in our two great people and in the come in future.
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of birdie there is no trend back let's move forward. thank you. [applause]>> i would like to gie honor of the first question to our dean it so the cameras come pick up -- can pick up the sound, come over hear. >> first of all, thank you very much for that thought-provoking speech event tuesday importance of a deepening for the relationship restrain but
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they're both now viewed in the context of the zero rows and often could get the global powers of sh but use of the existing institutions are appropriate for china in the united states to attend but then there is the need for global institutions and a new framework the end -- needs to be created of the global order. >> thank you very much dean. a good question. i think and also with united
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nations ended new york in another in geneva for her of the day with the post iv tool. there here for the global peace and prosperity. where read it to is all of these in the position. on the other hands but the
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progress there are sticking together but if you discuss global issues thank years.
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>> effective deliberate of asking the second question? [laughter] the usf and china face many potential crisis for what did escalate to get out of control like north korea and taiwan and the tightness sees. to you think the united states and china have adequate crisis management and avenues of communication and to talk about alternatives and hopefully crisis prevention before they'll for? day saint we asked them internally? this is another complicated problem. [laughter]
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[applause] >> next question. increasing communication new those that may be worked together. >> will take the hand as i see it. yes? the young bien here then i will alternate sites. >>.
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some of those you will cut in order jake a very important position. >> thank you. [laughter] basically the rule of the ambassador as i see it come with the most important part of the facility the communication natalie the government but the people. but somehow it is the message itself and we just have to work together. not against each other. because this is the only option. i arrived in just over six
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months the was ready in this regard. >> then we will alternate side and i will try to be equitable. >> a bushers to meet you in in your. i above like to ask a question about and that was 1991 when he had a 28 character expression but the core was to keep a low profile or was some people translated as lead capabilities i note -- never
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thought that was a good interpretation but it concluded in eight important article that he wrote to buy it is quite unusual for an official to use that phrase in writing that we have not seen it since then. not mentioned the four chinese foreign air policy to keep peyser of well. [laughter] but some of these living in china and abroad it is quite
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simple. the most important part in the challenges to china is its own economic and social development. we cannot afford to divert resources so that is why to the adult profile and not to get involved. rethink that is behind what he said. but it is about a quarter century ago. china is more developed at
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that time and perhaps a bit stronger. we are fully aware of the need to make good bet the basic philosophy but actually this is the basic philosophy for the chinese nation. you have to be modest. you try to do things as a juror limits and work with others and what i said. thank you. >> i will go to the back. i see a hand on the left.
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>> think you for your speech mr. ambassador. i am from azerbaijani and i work could you give us an explanation? what are the chinese dreams? [laughter] >> i don't think the chinese stream is very different from the american dream. [laughter] i always believed and hoped
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all over the world to have very similar aspirations and simple. i've let hunt with maple is decreasing income put you go at that november of last year's. >> but they do have similar dreams. the huffs for the giver wrenches although people in many h

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