tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN October 22, 2013 8:00pm-10:01pm EDT
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[inaudible conversations] >> good morning. good morning. i'm congresswoman donna edwards and i represent maryland's fourth congressional district. welcome to the fourth district. [applause] i am really delighted one to see this packed house. he wasn't really difficult to do with all the work we do around the community and in this region centered around some of the most fabulous women that you find anywhere so thank you very much for joining us today. i have the privilege of representing this congressional district and representing a
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state that the center for american progress has said is the number one state for women in the country. [applause] now of course we take great pride in that but we know we have a lot of work to do. i'm honored, really honored to be here today with our senior senator, our mentor and our friend, our senator barbara mikulski. [applause] and most delighted to welcome somebody who is not a stranger either to prince george's county were to maryland or the fourth district are democratic leader nancy pelosi. [applause] i want to take a special moment to thank in his absence pastor john jenkins senior and the community here --
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i almost said my church. first baptist church of glenarden and shabbat christian academy. we had a chance to do a tour of the academy and see some of the amazing learning that is happening at the earliest age here at the academy and so it's a delight to be able to be here and to share that with first baptist of glenarden and to know you are such a truly great partner in our community on the whole range of things and at this church you don't view just what you do inside the walls but he say that your services outside the walls of the church and it really shows in the academy and the faces and the energy of those young people. i also want to acknowledge and i see so many of our elected officials from the region and i want to take a minute to acknowledge them and to note that are delighted that you also
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can join us. whether you are mayors or in our county representing our county or you are statewide you understand the importance of the work that we are engaged in together. i want to recognize our state's attorney angela. [applause] i probably should've said first my good friend, my dear friend carmen walker brown who is representing lieutenant governor anthony brown here today. welcome. [applause] delegate ayesha who represents the 25th legislative district and the maryland house of delegates and chair of the legislative lot caucus. [applause] marilyn bland the clerk of the circuit court in prince george's county. thank you for joining us. [applause]
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i'm going down the list budget i should look at delegate arianna kelly of montgomery county. thank you for joining us and over in the miller from montgomery county. [applause] my friends sister and childhood friend valerie ervin a member of the montgomery county council. [applause] mayor of a tremendous city with a lot of energy in forest heights in maryland jacqueline goodall. [applause] i don't think that i've missed anyone because i'm looking around the thank you all very much for joining us. when leader pelosi got together with the democratic women's working group i chaired the democratic women's working group and that is the women's house of
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representatives. we talk among us and also with a lot of our allies out in the community and running grassroots organizations about what was needed in this next step to fulfill a chu economic agenda for women. we decided in the new if we could formulate that agenda we know when women succeed america succeeds and that the core of that success are the things that many of us have worked on in different pieces over the years but we wanted to put them together. and so visiting these 4-year-olds and 3-year-olds today and seeing their energy reminded all of us of the importance of investing in early learning and quality affordable and accessible childcare. there is probably not one of us in this room who doesn't have an experience that we can recount about childcare. my own -- personally my son is now 25 but sometimes when you recount the stories it feels like yesterday.
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yesterday paying late fees when you show up late because you are rushing through rush-hour traffic to pick up your child. and you see the look on his face but also the people who work at the childcare facility. having made a bad choice like i did once about childcare because it was all that i could afford it turned out to us a place that wasn't safe for him and he ended up with meningitis and i almost lost him. all of us struggle in different ways around this issue. we want an agenda that says if we invest in early learning and we invest in quality affordable accessible childcare that it expands opportunities for women, opportunities for them to succeed in business in their profession's, to succeed at home. we also know that it's important for us to have equal pay for equal work.
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[applause] leader pelosi and i know in the house of representatives that we get paid the same as our mail counterparts but we also know that our sisters and friends and women around the country don't have that same experience. the importance -- can you imagine what would a family loses when they lose 25% of their income because one family member is not paid equal to their counterparts at work. and then of course part of this agenda is that when we struggle as caregivers whether it's caring for ourselves or our family members or her children and we may need to take a day off if we are not paid for that day off can you imagine the decision you have to make? i know i had to make it as a young mother to either go to work sick or take my kid to work with me sick. curl them up in the corner and i have done this before -- in the corner of the meeting
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because i can't afford to take off and they couldn't afford to stay home with him. these are the struggles that mothers face and mothers families face all around this country. i'm glad that you have been able to join us today because we know if we make an investment in this agenda that's an investment that's going to require the grassroots support of leaders like yourselves through our communities so we can make it a reality for women and families. i want to thank you again for being here because this is about improving the lives of women and families in the health of our nation's economy. because when you do invest in women in this kind of way than we invest in the economic success of our country. and so i would like to have you join me in welcoming some folks who are representatives frankly of a lot of stories that can be told freely throughout our communities. i want to welcome to the
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microphone a good friend of ours and a real leader mimi hassanein who is in montgomery county. she is originally from egypt that she has been a resident of montgomery county for 40 years preachy owns and operates three childcare centers and what an amazing progressive woman. she provides paid sick leave for employees. i would like you to welcome her. [applause] so that she can tell us why and what it means. mimi. >> good morning. [laughter] >> that's better. thank you very much.
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i am all about the empowered woman. let's get our wings and fly. my name is mimi hassanein and i do childcare. i have a story to share with you. it is an investment you're absolutely right great affordable childcare can happen. i have a sick child and she is going to get the kids sick. if you think about business it's going to cost me more money if i give her a sick baby so i offer safe day for all of my staff and also what really breaks my heart and i have seen it on a daily basis. we have a policy in our daycare. children have to be free 24 hours a fever so if he has a
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fever he cannot be attending the child for 24 hours. at it breaks my heart when i see people coming in and saying ms. mimi can you please take care of me because my mom has to go to work and i'm sick. do you know what the parents to? they give their child tylenol just for our so they can go to work and then they get a call. your child is sick and you need to come and pick him up. what happened at this time? the child is contagious so that germs spread so that diseases infect. you hear about childcare that close. why? because the child is sick and they go to school. i am here to tell you it can be done. nobody gets in business to lose money, write? even though i offer paid sick
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leave on them still making money so it can be done. it could happen so i wish that we could work out together. when it comes to subsidize money i have parents who cannot afford to pay the co-pay because they cannot match so i offered him a scholarship. maybe i am exceptional. maybe i just have a good heart but how can i get my message to every childcare business to all the state governments so everybody who is involved in this to help this industry to help those parents. remember we are going to be -- so i'm here to tell you, please help us. it is an investment and you need the money to get the result. thank you very much and i look forward to seeing you. [applause] >> thank you.
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i don't need this tool so i'm going to stand back a little bit. [laughter] senator mikulski i heard that. i want to take a moment to introduce our next guest. maureen evans arthur graduated in may from the university of maryland in baltimore county with a b.a. in gender and women's studies and political science. she was a first-generation college student who went back to school after being a stay-at-home mom for two years but when she was looking to go back to school she had to engage in some important financial considerations. pay the tuition or pay the daycare? i would like to welcome to the stage maureen evans arthur. [applause] >> good morning everyone. as congressman edward said i am maureen evans arthur and i in
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became the first in my family to attend college. [applause] thank you. it wasn't necessarily easy and it almost didn't happen excess of the extremely high cost of childcare. today i stand before you not only as a mcnair research fellow but also as the mother of a 7-year-old boy. as she stated the first two years of my life i was a stay-at-home mom and i absolutely loved it. when i decided it was time to go back to school i did the normal things, applied, recommendation letters and essentially went through the same process that we all remember. but then i had to look at childcare so i went to not one and not two but a daycare daycare providers where live in county and the average cost was $1100 per month.
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with the math that ends up being over $13,000 a year or so i was really torn my husband and i but i felt lucky that we only had one child. tons of my friends had multiples and i was also lucky that he was 24 months old and he was considered a toddler and not in infant because infant care as many of you might know is 300 or $400 more expensive than the $1100. soon i found myself asking you why go to school or continue to be a stay-at-home mom until he was school age which for him because he had a late october birthday would not be until he was six instead of five. so it was very difficult. we just said we can't afford childcare on our own. as a nontraditional student i received a combination of merit based loans so i should not -- i essentially got free tuition and books. i graduated without any student
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loans whatsoever but i ended up having to take out $30,000 in loans to subsidize childcare costs which my husband and i could not afford. however i feel like i'm lucky. i've been out of school for six months and starting graduate school but in the process my husband and i will have to factor in my loan payments which will impact the family budget because affordable childcare and safe childcare and his congresswoman edwards touched on the original he enrolled our son and i guess would would you would call it a subpar childcare agency and within three weeks he had pneumonia. he was rushed to the hospital with a 105-degree fever and instantly i said you know what? we just have to pay the cost. it's not worth my son's life and the stress and at that point i thought i'm not going to do school. it wasn't meant to be. my husband pushed me to do and we ended up taking out student loans. i feel like i lucked out with
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only $30,000 in student loan debt. it was because of childcare but i was lucky i only had two and a half years has posted four years. my son was able to attend preschool which aligned with my schedule so i was able to pick him up and he didn't have to be in childcare. if my son had been in the younger and we had to pay those prices i would have gone back to school. understanding the cost issue of childcare remains one of the issues why my husband and i will not be expanding our family which is unfortunate. too many smart and motivated women and up having to forgo an education or leave a career to make sacrifices for their children. that is why i and millions of other families like mine need the women's economic agenda to make sure that these choices become a thing of the past so thank you so much for having me.
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[applause] >> thank you very much marine. you can see that when you hear stories like that we just say we have to do it and we really have to do it differently. next to the stage i want to welcome danielle buckman. she is a 37 year resident of clarksburg maryland who was fired after her pregnancy related incident by a small employer. daniel was not covered by the federal family and medical leave act and a new labor department study shows that neither are 40% of the u.s. workforce. danielle. [applause] >> thank you senator mikulski leader pelosi representative edwards and the national partnership for women and families for inviting me to this event. it's a chew honor to be here.
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i am here today because in june 2010 i am most died during childbirth. it's not the 19th century but the truth is dangers and childbirth and pregnancy still exist. thanks to expert medical care in multiple blood transfusions i survived in my daughter avery despite my mild developmental delays is doing well. still it was a truly chu time for my family and it didn't come without significant cost. starting when avery are arrived eight weeks early in order to save my life and her life i had to have a cesarean section and emergency hysterectomy thus losing my ability to carry more children. next came an extended period a painful recovery. i was eventually discharged from a hospital but avery spent 28 days in the nicu. both my husband and i had chops at the time and we planned for this new child but the in an unexpected expense of early
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delivery and the lengthy hospital stay as well as being unable to work put a tremendous financial burden on our family. that's the reason i'm speaking with you today. amid all this chaos and the challenges facing us despite repeated promises for my employer that my position was safe while i took leave i lost the part-time job that i loved. it was perfectly legal absent the family and medical leave act which is our nation's law to help families during serious health emergencies in circumstances like mine. fmln was a groundbreaking law. i'm so thankful that the partnership and many others fought so hard for its passage because it meant families have been able to take unpaid time off and keep their jobs when a health crisis arrives but it's been two decades and a significant portion of the workforce is not covered by its protections. that is wine so excited the
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national leaders are working on proposals designed to support families to take care of ill family members. how do you take the time off without pay? it it causes huge financial strains and it certainly did for my family. the time i spend out of work in job searching resulted in her breath couple of years financially for my family. we are fortunate to have family and friends but many people are not so lucky and that is why decided to share my story to be a voice for women who may not have one or two inspire others to share their stories and get involved. no woman or man should have to worry about their financial security when issues are complications arise for themselves or a member of their family who needs their care. it's long past time for paid family medical leave in this country. stories like mine spanned the country and it shouldn't be that way. thanks so much. [applause]
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>> thank you very much dannelle. sometimes you can skip lines but i wanted to make sure that we could hear from our guests here who really shared their stories and their own experiences which are repeated across this country. while there has not been a greater fighter not just in maryland but all across the country for women we get to call her our own. senator barbara mikulski was elected to the united states senate in 1986. she was the first democratic woman elected on her own right and in her own right. [applause] we have the the great herwich of being able to celebrate senator mikulski as the longest-serving woman elected in her own right in the united states senate.
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[applause] these days we like to say that she is the chair of the powerful senate appropriations committee. we like to say that in maryland. [applause] she is a champion of women. she is the dean of the women in the senate. she is a mentor for women in the senate and at mentor for women in the house. she truly does nurture us trade you can tell that senator mikulski when i first met her the first thing she shared with me that she was a social worker. i think that is so fundamental to the way that she thinks about the needs of women and families and all of our communities across the country. that is the kind of leadership that she brings to the senate. she will tell you but i will too that when they lilly ledbetter pay act was signed into law the first law signed by newly sworn
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president barack obama it was senator mikulski who led the fight in the senate -- our leader who led the fight in the house. [applause] and so please join me in welcoming our favorite senator, pat senator barb. [applause] >> good morning everybody. i am just delighted to be here at this forum and making sure that america's children are taking care of in the best childcare program that the world can offer. and shouldn't a great country be able to do that? [applause] and for me it's a delight to get through the last 17 days that we lived through a slam down, shut
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down politics and to be here with this wonderful team of donna edwards and speaker pelosi working on real issues that american families have that we can come up with real solutions. this is what i am so delighted to be here. during the last several days there has been a lot of focus on obamacare. obama does care and that's what we are going to about here today. [applause] then it's going to be what can we afford? somehow or another we can always balance time and take care of the needs of the american people and begin to build our country again. [applause] i am so pleased to be 15 and honored to be the dean of the
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women in the united states senate. [applause] now with 16 democratic women and for republicans we are working on real issues. we want to extend our hand and our friendship and our craft and know how and every assignment and every committee assignment to move an agenda or word to help american families. we the women of the senate joining with our colleagues we work on the macroissues. big budget, big foreign-policy dig stuff but do you know what? we also work on the macaroni and cheese issues. what we bring to the table is what is happening at the kitchen table. what are families talking about? the kinds of conversations these
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three wonderful women had, to go to school or not to go to school, the stresses on their families with danielle. dannelle worked for me many years ago. i was taller and she was shorter. [laughter] now here she is the executive director of a hospice program and look at what she is doing. we have to focus on the macaroni and cheese issues and that is how we will mpac the macroissues of our country. we need to focus on our families and that is why i'm so proud of this turbo team in the house is done but by congresswoman edwards is the chair of the democratic congresswoman's caucus and speaker pelosi at her back and courage in her and helping her in every way possible to come up with this agenda. we know what the agenda is
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because we talk with you. we have met with you. we have listened to you and we know that for the american women and american families first of all the most important thing in addition to love you need an income. you need in income that is reliable and it means that you can have a living wage. this is why we have to raise the minimum wage in our country. [applause] we have to make sure equal pay for equal work and as many of you might say didn't we take care of that with lilly let that are? lilly ledbetter overturned a supreme court decision that had time limits on when you could ring -- but we are for something called paycheck fairness which means you are not going to be harassed when you bring a suit and you
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have a right to know what the person standing next to you is paid. most women don't know what the guys are making. it's not that they don't want to tell you. they try to be a partner to you so we want to finish the job beginning with lilly ledbetter and we want to make sure we charlie have to pay for equal work and you can ers to that agenda in the workplace. that's number one. number two copley belief when you work you should also have the confidence that you are going to have health care. this is why we supported the affordable care act. we believe in the affordable care act because all of us knew if we were out there in the community particularly listening to the stories you have faced like dannelle and maureen and
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mimi the fact is just being a woman with a pre-existing condition they would look for every excuse they could find to take your health care away from you and we said no. our mammograms won't go our health care won't go and being a woman in america will no longer be counted as a pre-existing condition. [applause] so in some states if you had a cesarean they dropped your insurance company. in eight states if you were a victim of domestic violence they counted it as a pre-existing condition. when that guy whose name i will not mention in the house that is trying to huff and puff and blow our health care way he says he wants to repeal it and replace it and i say we will never turn
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back and being a woman and the united states of america will no longer be considered a pre-existing condition. [applause] then there's the third issue which is education. education is not only k-12 which received a wonderful academy we have here in our public schools and our great public schoolteachers but education begins from our wind, from day one and we won and that is what we call childcare that's available affordable safe and also educational. we are not talking about warehousing our children. we are talking about taking care of their children. it's called childcare, child education and that is why we want to really focus on expanding the opportunities to make childcare more available more affordable definitely safe and to have standards where the
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children have the opportunity to be able to learn and to be regular school ready. that is what we are working on and in the senate i'm taking the lead on childcare. one of the very first things we want to do is make sure we keep the childcare tax credit. we need to keep the childcare tax credit so you can take up to $3000 here as a tax break on your childcare. if we can give tax breaks to send jobs overseas we can give tax breaks to american families to be able to afford childcare. let's keep that childcare tax credit. [applause] and then for those women who are looking to move ahead in life when we look there we also want to reauthorize the community development childhood grants and that is where i'm taking the lead in the senate to forge
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bipartisan -- the childcare to supplement lock grande. it's a federal grant program that provides childcare assistance for working families. it was reauthorize in 1996 and in fact every major program helping in families and children was done under the clinton administration. nothing has happened since then and now with the barack obama generation with the new generation of women leadership, leadership to make sure we move this forward. nothing new has been done since 1996. no more. in maryland they are 14,700 families served by that program. in the whole country 1.5 million children receive that help so we are putting together to refresh
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reform and renew childcare development plot grants. that is what we are doing for the agenda in the senate. we have moved it to the health education committee. you should know there are real republicans who are compassionate conservatives. and there are those -- i find them seek and ye shall find. our jen agenda and the sentences to join with our sisters in the house to fight the common cause on the agenda they put together to be able to move this forward. when all is said and done more kits that thing gets done but now it's time to do the job. you know when you have an easy job you know who to give it to. when you have a tough job give it to the women and we will get
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it done. [applause] >> thank you very much senator mikulski. that's right when you have a tough job give it to somebody who can get it done. the idea of an economic agenda for women that really envisions quality affordable and and accessible childcare that envisions equal pay for equal work raising the min and age the idea of providing family medical leave so women have the flexibility that they need to make sure that they and their families succeed. there has been no greater champion of this economic agenda when women succeed america's succeed than our leader 25 years
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plus in the house just inducted into the women's hall of fame -- say congratulations. our leader former speaker going to be speaker again confident nancy pelosi. [applause] >> good morning everyone. i hasten to add that when i was inducted into the hall of fame last weekend i was following in the footsteps of the longest-serving woman in congress are great leader senator barbara mikulski. [applause] i was so honored harbor a that you were joined by 19 house democratic members and the people were thrilled when the women came to the stage. all the women joining us in seneca falls. so much has been said already about when women succeed america succeeds in an economic agenda for women and families. i just want to put it into historical if. i want to thank mimi and maureen
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and dannelle for giving us their testimony. we can talk about policy all they want but the personal stories have the strongest testimonies we can have and evidence. to do so with all of you here under the auspices of congresswoman donna edwards is an honor indeed and to be joined by so many is an honor as well so thank you for honoring us with your presence and blessing the community with your service and of course to be here with senator barb. she and i went to the same high school four years ago. i've been following her career. i am been an admirer of hers and she is really a champion on all of these issues. she and i donna predicate our priorities on the experience of the american people.
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as has been said. i want to join others to thank reverend jenkins for inviting us here today and providing the auspice and providing the academy. it was quite remarkable to see the children and the quality affordable attention that they are receiving was quite remarkable in the shabbat christian academy. it's just extraordinary. in the beginning of this congress we have passed the affordable care act and starting to work on the implementation of it. we said what is it that we can do to change the environment for women so it's no longer incrementalism but doing something very different to unleash the full power of women? when we first won the house and 2006 and the senate we were
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thinking about survival because his congressman barbs had so much have not been done for our members. it's about survival and then when president obama became president taking people to a higher level and then we were on the mission to the not only be about sects -- success but transformation. mimi a women you see and dannelle he decided anything was possible for you and i hearken back to our founders and or bears. 165 years so we decided what were the particular issues facing us? we had a series of meetings around the country and everywhere in between. we have done the affordable care act as senator barb said and no longer being a woman is a
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pre-existing condition. remarkable, of remarkable and the violence against women act was accomplished in a bipartisan way. we were focusing on the work specifically and many items on the agenda. we wanted to prioritize what could transform women in the workplace? we listen to women across the country and we developed and worked with associations with paid coalitions ywca all different kinds of organizations to work on these issues and came up with these things that have been emphasized. pay, raise the minimum wage. 62% of people who get the minimum wage are women. the first 100 hours when we had the majority in the house and senate we raise the minimum wage but it's time to raise it again and it's long overdue.
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raise the minimum wage. as senator mikulski is in the lead for the paycheck fairness act. it's about paycheck fairness. in many parts of the country we make 77% of what men make for the same job and the same time worked. that's like saying you didn't work january february or march for free compared to their male counterparts. that's just not right. it's just not right and we have to pass the fair paycheck act. to go back to warrant has said this was about repassed lilly ledbetter and we have been working on it for a long time. we got the president to sign it so that was a beautiful accomplishment and he wanted that to be a signature issue for him and that was great but has the senator said that is about what recourse you have and not establishing that you should buy law have to pay.
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we had this paycheck fairness in the house in the senate senate and congress him and alario has been a leader on many of the subjects and senator mikulski is sponsoring the house and the senate and a champion. then we talk about family medical leave. 20 years ago remember senator barb that was one of the first bills that president clinton signed. we had been working on for a while and we had a president who signed it. that was 20 years ago and 40% of women in the workplace did not qualify -- not that they don't qualify but the businesses are not large enough to be covered but nevertheless it's unpaid by and large. we have to have paid leave. maybe not the full length of medical leave but some paid leave and we have that
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legislation healthy families act. these are all possible. it's about the outside mobilization and that is why we are so glad to see so many leaders on these issues today, all of you. the third is childcare. the childcare issue is the most transformative. we have talked about seneca falls and at that time five years ago these women -- imagine the courage they had to declare that all men and women are created equal and as such we demand to have equal station to which we are entitled they said. standing on their shoulders. the right to vote came and decades later they said women were given the right to vote. women weren't given the right state demanded and marched and that is what is going to take for this.
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[applause] you have bad and then you had -- women taking their share in the war effort putting in their fair share and then you had women in the workplace and the higher educational women. or women having a choice to stay home or be in the workplace at whatever level. the missing link the whole time was affordable quality childcare to enable women to unleash their power for themselves and their families and our economy. as mimi said this is about making our economy grow. if we unleash the power of women in the economy two to three points of our gdp p. will increase two or three points. it just will. it's really important. senator mikulski on this subject in the senator talked about the lot rent in the tax credit and that's all important. we also have to go further.
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lilly ledbetter we have to go further family leave we have to go further. it was on president nixon's desk when he was present and he vetoed for social and cultural reasons whatever that was. some guys probably decided that. whatever it was but nonetheless. that was a long time ago. this is the most transformative thing we can do. we are not -- for not only women and their families but man and their families and for our economy. let me just say a couple of things. first of all listening to stories across the country of heard eloquent ones today. and kids going to school sick. one woman that we invited to new haven to speak, she was telling her story about how she was a
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single mom and got a job created she said let me tell you what i see in my job. i met school bus driver and i see kids -- i pull up to the stop and i know exactly what's going to happen. there will be a mom with tears in her eyes that she knows is sick but she has no alternative. if she doesn't go to work she will be docked a day of pay. if you do that several times pretty soon you don't have that job. you can't be counted on. she can't afford the childcare and she has no paid sick leave she has no alternative. you know the story. you know the story. the new fierce tories of a mom
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compound a young woman pregnant working pulls a muscle or whatever and goes to the doctor. you can do some other work for the next few months because you shouldn't be lifting things. the boss sets you don't have to lift anything because you don't have a job anymore. this happens in this country. we are going to change that. we are going to change that because we are going to mobilize and bond across the country and focus. let me relay some facts that senator mikulski mentioned. when you educate children you are doing so much. this is the key to everything for our country. head start our motto in san francisco has been children learning, parents earning. we cut head start in order to reduce the deficit? the children are losing and the teachers and the children are losing the parents of the
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children are losing as they can some of them no longer work. remember this it's not going to bring more money to the treasury than the education of the american people whether it's early childhood k-12 higher education postgrad lifetime learning. so when somebody says we are cutting head start to reduce the deficit that is one of the dumbest. in this competition it's one of the dumbest suggestions they can make. [applause] i'm going to talk some more about some of these things but understanding that these are increasing the debt limit, increasing the deficit. i will just close by telling you this story that i heard a few weeks ago in new york when we had a gathering such as this. a mom -- one story barbara. this woman, a young woman who
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has four or five kids. every challenge and a beautiful resource. she tells the story that she got the job and now she is supervisor for region and she was coming to get testimony at the hearing as we heard from mimi and maureen. she said i'm so confident now but i wasn't confident about giving this speech so i practice on my children. the 4-year-old who was in head start and she was making a pitch for head start she said i gave my speech and i said to the children, what do you think? do you have any questions? my 44-year-old and head start said i just have one question mom. who gave you permission to use my name in your speech.
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[laughter] you go girl. it's about self-esteem and it's about children learning and being ready for the future. it's about the children as senator mikulski began her remarks. thank you all very much. [applause] >> i'm just knocking things over. senator mikulski i know senator mikulski has to leave and before you do i want to be sure we say a thank you very much for your leadership and for being here today. thank you. [applause] [applause] and just as senator mikulski makes her way out of the room i didn't know if there were any questions. what i want to hear from everybody is that you are ready
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to work on this. are we ready to work on this? and. [applause] leader pelosi they couldn't be more perfect timing because on saturday in prince george's county the women's commission -- another wreck presented its here. we are going to have how many? 500 women? 700 women who will be at our women's commission meeting talking about these issues on saturday. the women who were here in this room get to take this message out to them. thank you all very much and i'm looking right here because i know that's going to happen come to write? excellent. maybe we have a chance for a couple of questions. yes, maam. why don't you use the microphone right here. >> good afternoon. my name is simone and i'm the president and founder of all the
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love which seeks to raise awareness about autism and the importance of early detection in the african american and hispanic communities. african-american and hispanic children have the highest number of autism related cases reported in the united states so as you move forward in your agenda i hope and pray that you don't forget about the moms who have the child with special needs because most of the time these are all issues that are important but the mother who has a child with autism or a disability is left out. they are discriminated against because the daycare can't accommodate -- i'm sorry. they can't accommodate the children who have disabilities. i don't know what can be done and i'm determined not to give
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up the fight. i don't mean to hog up the time but i just want to say that i had an opportunity to travel to new york this past weekend to go support that mom who is visiting the nonverbal autistic child. i can't in good conscience say i'm about all the love and i'm not helping persons or women in need. please keep that family in your prayers and please let me know if there is anything that i can do because i am committed to helping women and empowering women. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much for sharing that. i think part of what you hear is the importance of having -- when you say quality and
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affordable and accessible childcare that has to be for all children. i think all of us here in this room have to embrace that notion so we understand what it is we are fighting for. it may be the autistic child but in another case it may be a child with other types of needs. it doesn't mean that those children can't learn and a parent can't we support it but we have to make sure when we understand what we mean about affordable and accessible childcare that is what it is. >> my daughter her passion in life she is a teacher of children with special needs. she lives in houston texas and my son-in-law married to another dr. is a teacher of children with special needs and it amazes me that they never burn out. it's a blessing. it really is. our conversations whether at the dinner table when we are together or on the phone when we are not is all about what we are
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doing for children. we always want to put that in the forefront because they fall into a couple of categories. these children receiving the health care that they need. we have have to have the sensitivity for the special needs and respect them for who they are and what they can do and not judge them for what they cannot. this is the spirit that we bring to that and thank you for sharing your passion and your love for the subject. there are tens of millions of families that are affected this way. these children are blessings from god and this is their -- their challenge in life but it is for our country as well. we will be judged on how we meet that challenge so thank you. [applause]
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>> we have time for one or two more questions. >> thank you again congresswoman donna edwards and our leader ms. pelosi. we know that our wonderful president had a global if you will town hall meeting where people logged in and it was an effort that allowed many groups such as this to organize events to login and have a discussion which included across our wonderful united states. i was wondering if in terms of trying to move this forward and to a bout others who may not have been present here today obviously to engage in this and
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to allow this movement to grow across our wonderful united states. if we can look to see how we can put together a form of events that would take place and everyone throughout the united states login and we can all engage in move and a powerful way forward. >> originally we had a children's summit a few years ago and try to address some of the issues from that with hundreds of people coming to d.c. to head constituencies. in other words they headed up an organization and some of the things that sprang from that. now after having 20 of these around the country and more on the schedule -- i just had one in sacramento -- we are talking about putting something together in d.c. but to do it as you describe further.
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because of the visibility but we are doing i don't mean to take credit for this. i'm sure they were thinking of it anyway but the white house is going to be putting something together springing from some of this so if they take the lead of course that will be even better. a higher platform and a bigger so box and the rest that we intend to move it in a forward direction. it's one of the reasons for policy but the other thing is to give people hope. most people who are struggling making minimum wage have no idea that people are fighting for them in washington. they think nobody is paying attention. they are working two or three jobs and they're not reading the policy pages someone they do what do they see? they don't hear people talking about the central strength of our country. that's another reason to have it be highly visible. we want to know what we were talking about so we wanted to hear from people would --
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something that came from the conversation. that is why these first meetings have been so valuable to us. i had not even heard about people taking outs to to pay for their childcare. there was a whole different take on that front. that is important. you listen and you learn. we plan to do that and we would like for the white house to do it and maybe we will do both but we will see what the timing is on it. thank you for that suggestion but understand the role that congresswoman donna edwards played in all of this and i thank you for sending her to congress. ..
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enhance whenever it is, and she has plans to get things done. so i hesitate to think because i know as soon we will have a list and timetable and all the rest of what they will do about it. and you know what, because he is the way she is, that is a leader. people are drawn to her. they know, donna has a plan. it is going to work. it is going to make a difference is going to make progress, and that is, as they say, a leader. and what you to know the confidence. i know you all respecter and hold her in high esteem. at one you to know that is team is shared by you and the congress of the united states on both sides of the aisle.
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[applause] >> thank-you, lisa pelosi. as we close up and will take one more question. early on when we began to launch we were using some of our allied organizations to begin to get the word out. we have done twitter conversations, at things like that. i think that what you have shared with us is an idea of even in our community here how we can take it more broadly. and you are right. even as you were talking, taking of ways in which we can actually act upon the suggestions because i think it is a really good one. and now that we have gathered here, each one of you knows another 20 people. we have thousands out there. this is a message that really can be sped -- spread broadly. we cannot just talk about it, but get something done. work with our state and local officials to be able to do that.
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and we will take one last question. >> thank you so much. speaker of the house. i guess i am getting at myself. thank you so much for the great work that you do. i just wanted to mention the fact that this coming saturday we are going to be, the commission for woman along with the county executive office will be hosting a forum to deal with of the issues that you highlighted today, and we are excited about it, the goal of reform is to engage win in the legislative process and just to connect with the issues, education, safety, health. it is called women engaged, and powered and educated. we are excited about it. fires are out on the table. please join us this coming saturday as the really do bring awareness to the issues that you guys disgust. thank you so much. >> that is so wonderful.
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the combination of that interaction that you will have their and that we are talking about technologically -- i was on the phone just a couple -- well, you will know when it is when i tell you, on a week ago before we took the vote. i was on. we had 26,000 people on the phone to thank them for what they're doing, try to end the shutout, but that was only our east coast,. then we had the west coast which had tens of thousands of more people. so the technology of today will enable us to get this mission accomplished when we talk about affordable quality child care. children learning, parents learning. these kids being ready. got talking all the time about how different it is when they have a head start with the preschool and going on. this is -- this is, but their point, this is of the competitiveness of the united states economy the investment in education, investing reduces the
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deficit, grows our economy. although we are doing it because it is the right thing to do for individual aspiration, it has an impact on our economy. and when it is women, the focus is women, even more so. i will close by saying, was visiting my daughter. [laughter] in texas. a teacher of children, but we were in church and she says, very conservative place. anyway, packed house, catholic church, the morning, 9:00. the priest did a beautiful sermon. he said, what i want you to take from today is, is just not necessary for you to come here. it is not all right for you to come here in parade on sunday and leave here and prey on other people during the week. so i thought, while. come to our debates on food
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stamps. so there is a debate going on that we want to fully engage in to bring intellectuals and public service experience, but also to give up to some many women who are in the struggle trying to raise their families and have their own -- freeze their own aspirations. it goes back again. it cuts back to the founders. this is about the political care act. life, a healthy life, liberty, to pursue europeanist in a way that is good for you, that is good for america. when women succeed, america succeeds. [applause] [applause] >> i will just say, let's give our leader, nancy pelosi, a big round of applause. thank you very much. [applause]
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[inaudible conversations] >> at the daily white house press briefing the chairman of the council of economic advisers jason berman discusses the september jobs report and how the government shut down affected the u.s. economy. >> thank you, jay. this morning we found out that the economy added 148,000 jobs in the month of september. the unemployment rate ticked down to just over 7 percent, and those are both part of a steady more than 3-year trend of job creation and production in the unemployment rate. there is no question that that pace of job creation is the low -- below what we can be fully satisfied with. instead what we did in october was a self-inflicted wound that
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will subtract from jobs will we eventually learned the jobs number for october. normally economists love jobs did because it is the most recent from a fresh look at what is gonna run the economy. this was delayed several weeks. as a result cover data from september. so one thing we have been trying to get a handle on is what the back -- economic consequences of that economic shut down and debt limit brinksmanship has been. the first site gives you a number of private sector estimates of the consequences. they all show that gdp growth in the fourth quarter was reduced from anywhere from two tenths to 6p. these estimates are useful and enforce -- informative but it is important to understand their based on predictions. if government services cs for this amount of time on this amount of money sometime but multiplier model.
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here's a consequence for gdp, not based on actual data and don't capture the full set of affects on confidence, uncertainty, things like oil drillers not getting permits, small business is not getting loans, homeowners not able to get mortgages. will we try to do was look at actual data on the economy and the next tide -- slide shows some of the data we like that. a daily or weekly basis these air and the gators really get. the most recent set is available through a rich trough. most of the first half of october. they all tell a very consistent story. sales growth, as shown in the first indicator slowed in the first half of the month. one survey said 40 percent of consumers cut back on they're spending.
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50,000. that job creation index slowed. economic confidence fell to the lowest level in years and mortgage applications slowed as well. some of that is certainly a direct effect of the shutdown. will we then tried to do is take all these indicators, each one of them individually noisy and toes only part of the picture and tries to extract a consistent economic signal from all these indicators using something that my colleague jim stock a member of the council of economic advisers and one of the leading become a magician's calls principal performance analysis. the blue line is an index that combines all variables into a consistent measure of the economy, you look in the past
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and job growth, job destruction, it is a reasonably accurate measure of the economy. once these things see it fell very sharply uc similar size. not quite as sharp fall the eurozone crisis in 2012. and as you calibrate that, use the surplus at the end it translates into zero to five percentage points off the fourth quarter growth rate. fewer jobs summit would have had in the month of october and that is just based on the data we have through october 12. we like a march average wealth. this underscores sell unnecessary and harmful shut down and brinksmanship was for the economy and why it is important to avoid repeating it
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and consider jobs that are adding to growth, not subtracting. later today we will have a report out that provides that mathematical derivation of all this for those of you and i will be turning straight to the appendix of that report and we will work through all of this. as i said, use the private sector forecasters, you see it in the actual data. it was a significant and unnecessary self-inflicted wound that we should not be repeating. >> the house is the subcommittee hearing on condition networks. testifying about how advancements in a case this technology will affect consumers and the economy. that's the 10:30 a.m. eastern. at 2:00 p.m. eastern children in the foster care system. members of congress to propose
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legislation to address the problem live coverage of both hearings here on c-span2 and c-span.org. >> hours after the japanese attack on pearl harbor, first lady eleanor roosevelt was on the radio talking with america. >> good evening, ladies and gentlemen. i am speaking at a very serious moment in our history the cabinet is convening in the leaders in congress are meeting with the president, the state department and army and navy officials have been that the president all afternoon. in fact, the japanese ambassador was talking to the president at the very time that japan's airships were bombing our citizens in hawaii in the philippines and sinking one of our transports loaded with lumber on its way to hawaii. but more -- tomorrow morning the
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members of congress will be ready for action. in the meantime we, the people, are already prepared for action. for months the knowledge of something that this time might happen has been hanging over our heads, and yet it seemed impossible to believe, impossible to drop the everyday things of life and feel that there were only one thing which was important. preparation to meet is in no matter where he struck. that is more over now and there is no more uncertainty. now we have to face, and we know that we are ready to face it. >> watch our program and eleanor roosevelt on a website, c-span.org / first ladies are see it saturday on c-span and 7:00 p.m. eastern command a continue our series of money -- monday as related first lady bess truman. >> on monday energy analysts
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distrust -- discussed the elector energy and technology. moderated by national public radio science correspondent richard harris. this is an hour and 20 minutes. i don't know what's going tappan. what would make wonderful as it will be a spontaneous thing. i will briefly faugh i will inte our participants said and we will get the ball rolling in a little while. let me get started. first of all, let me introduce vivien foster, the manager of the sustainable energy department of the world bank. thank you for coming here. next, the deputy administrator of the u.s. energy information administration and many to think
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congress for allowing you to join us today. appreciate that. and a manager in the corporate department. obviously much more elaborate resonates and bios and so on. in the interests of time i will refer you to the world wide web if you want to know more about individuals. we do not have power points. they are not allowed. however, we did receive rpf that will be put up on the screen. it came from rob. opine about it. he should not refer to it. the conversation of course is about the future of energy, a long time from now or not very long from now.
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the question we all want to learn about is what will energy be looked at, enough for us, enough for people in the world to have no energy right now. how much will it cost? will the expense be and what will the expense the to the environment. but let me start by -- the big picture question, when you look ahead, will it be enough. >> we will be enough? >> we believe there will be adequate energy for the future to cover the demand growth that we expect. we think that there will be significant amount of prep supply remaining year after 2014. it plays a key role in the energy outlook and the kind of supplies but how we use it. new technology is central.
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exxon mobile every year dozen energy a look. and we use it internally for our own planning and investment strategy. we also publishes a the we can have a discussion about it and share our views of the energy future. we have done this for a number of years. graphics for not forget them. >> this is an illegal power point. >> it is not even the one that i was promised. >> i was going to put that up. less talk about the world from an and energy. >> 2040, will it look like? how difficult? how different will the energy picture? >> three of the seven different tone -- 7 billion people we share the world with. almost all those are the developing economies. there are concentrated in a
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number of regions. and as we look at that, that increase in population in standard of living and dying comes are critical. then developed economy. they use a certain amount of energy. that will be fairly stable going for nova long-term. elected to grips in this. the economic cooperation development and the expansion economies and all the growth and powerhouse. what is importance. what that grope to find that growth among that group that is growing, we will see almost 2 million more people, but that while higher standard of living. and, you know, the first in everything about ways of
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thinking about the different situation urbanization increases , and infrastructure. any more houses, railways, all of that take steel and cement and energy to build that. they will buy cars. they will buy a number of cars. that drives energy like oil or we can convert oil into fuel. that will be until we see an increase in oil demand driven globally by the increase in transportation requirements for the developing economies. household appliances, households themselves from all of that is going to take more electricity, industrial output to produce the materials to build those sounds and to build those appliances, plastics will be a key part of that, so that takes out wide sweep of energy demand to supply that.
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there will use hospitals. he need a lot of electricity in that area all of that is this -- and import no review. when we talk about the expansion economies in the that is morally and criminal energy demand growth is. when he moved from that to the developed economies their energy demand is essentially flat. to be see a fuel transition. natural gas to marry nobles.
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>> i want to get into all of that, and i appreciate. i want to turn now to the s surf the pds. let's take a step back and look at where the developing world is right now. how many people completely lacked energy. >> thank you very much, richard. with the energy access, a huge global equity issue. as of today, about 1 billion people live without electricity. that is the way by night. you can see the developed world beautifully.
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africa is almost entirely in the dark. the amount of generation is equivalent to the state of california and oregon. this year absence our lack of energy in the developing world is very startling, and we think that achieving universal energy access has been articulated by the un secretary general as a global objectives for 2013. a very, very key goal. of course energy is not just electricity. it is part of it. most of the energy that most of the season households. if they go. it 1 billion people without electricity. they are still picking on traditional stoves, firewood or some form of traditional fire mass. and not only is that very insufficient and damaging to the environment but has huge health implications.
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the above three that people die every year from inhaling smoke from this kind of primitive cooking. so energy access challenges, the whole cooking sons. now, if we look at how energy is distributed around the world today is highly inequitable. we find that about the 20 largest consumer countries account for 80 percent of global energy consumption. the low income countries consume only about 1%, the huge gap. in fact, two countries, and the u.s. each account for 20 percent of global initial consumption. it's actually making a useful on the economy, and our economies of developing world.
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we do a lot of surveys. businesses around the world. one-third of our client countries confirm having energy is the sheer lack of a reliable source of energy. in many parts of the world that have very little energy available. it's incredibly intensive. many parts of africa. paid its rent 20 and $0.40. the quantity of energy as been conceived of equality in terms of the pricing,. >> the world bank objective is to do this but 2030. you on track to do that? >> 2030. this is the so-called energy pool movement.
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there is no way will be 2030. if elected the past 22. the 20 years of history. the energy access has been going up by roughly one percentage point per year sicily. if we continue to move at that pace we will barely keep up with the population growth that we anticipate over that time. if we're going to lead the universal access john's we have to do things differently. the need to have a huge commitment for energy access which is only a charging about $10 billion of financing per year. $57 billion. >> let me turn to you. you are the nation's bookkeeper of energy use to my guess. that is what they do in part.
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independent part. >> replied -- defied -- we provide independent affirmation. there are ways. we have a very strong access to independence. the work that we do. >> talking about -- maybe we can talk about the other half of the class. really interesting comments. i don't know what you get zero into sight. one thing that i was reminded of , it sounds like yogi berra. just about the future. so the world will be different probably. i should say has robbed knows. we also prepare alex. and then in broad terms, i
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think, our referenced case. again, the world could develop quite differently. the same structure year with almost all the growth in energy demand occurring in the developing countries in asia. boss of the middle east as well slightly increasing or decreasing energy use in the particular developed countries. >> there are three things going on. the biggest driver of energy used to be a change in per-capita income. certainly there are many parts of the developing world dry faster economically than the developed world. we expected and china, india to slow down somewhat from their historical levels, but on a per-capita basis they're growing pretty strongly going into the
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developed countries. >> trying to catch up to our standard of living. >> and that has all those indications. the response is not the same exactly as the developing countries and the developed world. energy use in the developing world, may be more sensitive to growth and income because they're going in the states what is described. the other thing is population growth matters. -- the u.s. and india have very similar protected population growth. europe and china have very similar projected population growth. the middle east has a lot of population growth. the middle east has may be lower economic growth in china and india, but more population growth. so those population growth and economic growth, driving energy and.
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those driving energy down potentially be his hair having some population growth and some economic growth in industrialized countries, but they're is a reduction in energy intensity. units of energy used per dollar. >> your output today just put out could numbers that said the carbon dioxide emissions which are related to energy use have fallen. it. >> it's also the case that in the united states, i don't know how you think of what the economy should have been doing, but the economy is just sort of getting back to its 2008 level now. >> right. >> and if the economy has grown to one and a half% three-year
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for four years but have been 10% bigger. it might have been significantly more. this notion of greater, improvements and energy intensity, occurring everywhere the faster without baseline projection even though china's energy intensity driving of the energy consumption. coupled with economic growth. >> let me ask you.
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the glasses of fat. when you look ahead you are expecting this efficiency to keep going. they get to that a little deeper. >> to give you a couple of examples, in the developed economy, as we move into that generations they have different efficiencies. very efficient. san other types are not as robust. so as we move into a power generation feature there are a lot of different numbers.
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maybe only a five to 7 percent growth in fuel. that is our perspective. you will see that necessarily in the developing world. they're using a lot of call which is not as efficient as natural gas. you also see of the dynamics that are coming into play. let me touch one more thing, the good transportation is important globally. that is one thing where we see efficiency penetrate around the world. the technology is being built into vehicles today. it's really going around the world, and they will have a pretty significant impact because are going to double the number of cars on the road but see essentially flat transportation fuel demand for personal transportation. >> that is basically doubling fuel efficient. >> a bit of driving differences.
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a lot of efficiency there. sorry. >> so we have -- some of what brown says i would agree with. >> absolutely. yes. one thing to keep in mind, and this goes back to something the vienna-based. and it very eloquently what policy should be. rob's projection implicitly includes some policies to address carbon tax and emissions , carbon prices, what have you that our role then there. in some sense they arise some of that transition that we see going on. it's not that we disagree that we should be doing something about energy fairness, should be doing something. the representative from exxon
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mobile ones is something about greenhouse gases. we a bill that then to our baseline. and that has some significant implications. >> the other thing that will be different. again, you can bellow of these models carry you know, that you want to. but a lot will depend upon be here. certainly things like vehicle travel, his relationship, the unemployment. more relationship to employment and unemployment. it not necessarily the inverse of each other. sometimes people leave the labour force. but there is also simply change in social, you know, moors. i don't want to correct too much, we don't know yet. the internet, other ways of social interaction that make -- really get young people in the front rows year and the lessons in rates which we watch pretty
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closely changing a little bit. some of that might affect the economy. some might reflect others. >> all kinds of things going on. we have staying is improving in the developing world on average similar to what we have in the developing world. our difference is that we have significantly higher economic growth. in some cases population grows in the developing world. >> let me turn to you. one of the people who are conscious of the environmental consequences are saying, wow, this looks really good. they're thinking about making energy available for all that is the cooking of the planet. >> which is recently put out art directions paper.
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you need to shift toward sustainable energy future let's shoot for universal access by 2030 and also try and double the rate of improvement of energy efficiency globally and try take double the share of renewable energy in the global energy makes commandery think these are two very critical policy areas where actually this shift toward a sustainable energy future. sometimes people think there is attention for it access. a very small amount of energy. it is a very modest amount of energy.
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that is the important thing to bear in mind. >> not air-conditioning. when we be in really big trouble? >> i think the major source of demand for energy is coming more from the economy. so the matter of energy you need to make -- meet household needs is a relatively small. he think about what you need to by a growing economies is a much larger amount of energy that is involved. but they have been doing a lot on energy efficiency. the last 20 years.
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even today the energy intensity, still higher than the global average. if you look, it comes down by two-thirds. and you take that further. india has also done a great deal to improve its energy intensity. the one that stands out is the middle east. energy intensity is deteriorating. >> why is that? a lot of the countries in the middle east, false -- possible fossil fuels, oil, very low prices for internal consumption. if you like the cost to pay. washington, take one in riyadh. eating across all city for not too much money given the price of gasoline inside -- saudi arabia, but economists would tend to think this is to get rid
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of subsidies. it is better that you cash grants and let them pay real prices. you know, it can be a very tricky situation with respect to social unrest and other things. the tendency of when -- i used to be a professor of far begin a bureaucrat to identify it simple solutions one comes to washington organs to some other capital a lot of my simple solutions to work the same way that their work in a textbook. many would like to do that. the lead to drive the efficiency some other way. they have to delete the subsidies to fuel economy regulations.
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>> if you look at other renewals commodity that, but is still pretty over, 2030. i your expect to allow the attraction from the u.s. and worldwide effort, sustainable energy from the 2030. >> renewable energy. >> globally. solar and wind approaching 89%. the electricity supply. this is the total global makes.
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a number of other pieces in there. and you break it down and start looking at the individual pieces, they grow quickly. the world energy system is massive. you see the piece is increasing. but they're starting from very, very small levels growth rates that are much much higher than any other vendors to have energy source growing and it takes time for steel to build. >> and currently, 85% from 84% of the energy his fossil fuels. in our baseline outlook this is not include the current tight policies that robb has built-in and does not include sustainable energy for all fossil fuels 2040 or on the order of the more than 25%. it's still pretty much a fossil fuel world makes policy decisions where you going to do,
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where you do it and when the going to do it. as a the three big questions that apply everything. we'll have the role of trying to guess what the policy makers will do. they come to us with something and say look at this. what affect will have. he will do that. we're not involved in the same game of guessing what they might do, seeing what they should do. >> i need to come in. how much progress have we made an indelible energy? on the one hand, double digit growth rates that allow a couple of decades, but the truth is that the level energy demand is growing very fast.
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one thing, a significant portion come across africa and india is still in china. it and it is actually, it is so inefficient. in the introduction of a modern fuel for cooking or heating of water or any of those actually significantly improves the efficiency of the overall makes. that is one of the reasons residential demand does not go up that quickly because you are significantly changing of the efficiency of the overall plan. but i want to of -- how are was kind enough to mention our assumption process. i think it might be useful if i clarified that. because we use the outlook as of business planning tool, we really need to take a reasonable view of where we think the business world is headed. and so about five years ago we began considering a proxy model
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in our ford estimating of greenhouse gas policy costs. we are not proposing a particular kind of policy, but we are recognizing that governments around the world will be taking some action, and that policy will impact business ties to we want to take a recess now that. we have also expanded that outside of the oecd starting in 2013 to also include the developing economies, but really on a sliding scale the developed world led by china will do more, and maybe in africa less. we have incorporated that which does tend to make the decisions around power generation, fuels, industrial fuels as effect on demand, efficiency, and so we're not proposing a particular set of policies, for us to be prepared for business investments, we need to recognize governments are moving that way. >> the first of three reports on
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the intergovernmental panel on climate change on the organization. a little different way. prejudging what will happen in the future. how much carbon can we put in the air about the chilean ten stow. deal with it that way, any one time said take this and say it does not look as though we're on target anywhere near the investment. >> that is not his goal. >> is anyone trying to look at it and that -- the 2% bill, the centigrade from the preindustrial level. it is the stated preference.
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one of the things that you had promised. so there is a big oftentimes, the one thing you can say, certainly in washington within the stated preference and reveal preference can sometimes be quite different. and so, yes, this graph or our version of this graph are slightly different, but close enough. it is not going to produce that outcome. that is this issue of, well, what are people potentially if that is what they really -- if people want what is stated as the gull then something would have to change. the question is who is going to really do that. >> in your judgment obviously, we are not actually shooting for that too big regal. we don't drive for a particular solution. o we do is take a view of how politics evolves until choices
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work and what that lead to. and when you look around at the high ea or other credible bia, other credible forecasts is other energy supplies a definitely going a fossil lower energy makes the does not require a significant amount of fossil fuels to continue to drive support world, development and economic growth across the world, electricity and and all those pieces. >> that is obviously a tough situation for the bank because you don't want to say, no, people can't have more energy because that would violate the bill. it must be a difficult judgment for you guys to figure out how to balance the climate need to parses a very real human needs. so many people without even
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basic energy. >> definitely attention that we feel very much. our approach, in the case of smaller access countries, to focus on the access agenda and some of our larger clients we focus on how to help them to shift toward a more sustainable energy future. and thankfully this is a transition. a number of decades. and we see we can make an impact, the available energy that are available in the developing world but have not been unlocked. an important example is hydropower. if you look across africa and asia, 10 percent of hydro potential has been exploited. it of large-scale of renewable energy. in very actively waking, is significant.
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the what we're finding is that for many developing countries this simply don't have enough chernobyl, in their national boundaries to take the case of india, for example. doing quite well they are investing in high gear. but if you look at the amount of energy potential on territory and the growing demand in india. overseeing at the bank is often the solution is regional. we have to look beyond the boundaries of countries toward the hole subregion area and try and interconnect countries, build those kind of intercepts, a more stable future. look at the case of africa, for example. the largest economy. it very much a coal-fired system , but africa itself has huge hydro power resources.
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it could power much of the continent and in of itself. it is a huge challenge to actually unlock the massive investments, the policy investment instead be made in the investment. power between the supply and demand of those areas. we're working on a long-term basis. we have countries to meet their immediate needs, but the longer term plan that will unlock some of these cleaner available. >> of course, many would have significant concerns. again, not us because we don't have concerns about anything. just the numbers. there are a couple of microphones, and i would invite people to come up to ask questions. as the conversation progresses, do you want to ask something? >> i want to ask one comment. we also do forecasts with the
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level of energy and co2 emissions. we show the zero ec emissions trending down, down 20 plus%. overall energy is up 20% level. energy demand of about 30 percent, but emissions are only up in a 20 to 25 percent range. we have the missions but telling and starting to trend down. companies like china as they implement policies will be part of that shift. and so while we are not driving serb particular result, we do have a particular images future and an energy future. a think that is an important thing to recognize. i think you want to look at our ports, on-line, you can like the energy of light. it goes into a discussion about that. >> part of today's report, the domestic energy was one reason that we saw a decline in 2012 in the missions. at the switch from gas to coal, coal to gas, actually, if you were talking about the current
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year it would be a little bit of a switch back to coal. this is all in a country like the u.s. that has a lot of different types of capacity that can be dispatched. the decisions in areas of what units to run will be very sensitive to prices. and in early 2012 natural gas prices were extremely low and it was cheaper for even very traditional cold-fired utilities especially during those seasons to run some of their plants. this year they gas prices up maybe a dollar 50. talking in technical terms from what it was last year which is enough to push back toward using coal plants. so all of these -- markets are important to this. global gas prices, how much natural gas there will be in the world, you know, all of these
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things, whether there is an implicit or explicit price on carmen, how fast electricity demand grows is the critical thing. when i was a kid growing up in new york elected is the demand is growing at eight or 9% per year which means the amount of electricity needed to generate doubles every eight or nine years. you know, no electricity the man in the united states over the last decade grew at under 1 percent per year. our projection has it under 1% a year all the way up to 2040. with policies that may or may not be adopted it could be lower than at. electricity demand is growing in some of these countries at 89% per year, you know, if they have to double their electricity generation every eight or nine years, if i was looking at china and whether they're going to succeed in stepping up the use of coal a look at how fast the electricity demand will grow.
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>> the 70's. it seemed as though we were running out of oil. domestic production peaked here in 1970 or something like that. so the question is, where is all the oil going to come from? you know, a lot of people might have been left the impression that we are running in of this stuff and will have to have some sort of transition. you don't seem to be suggesting that. >> the results cannot be published, it says then less than half of the world's oil supply would be consumed by 2040. you talk about where it is coming from. we have seen an increase in production similar to the shale gas. none is after the same, but close to it. canada is a big supplier. technologies that allow us to drill deeper in other fields, accessing other developments around the world, when the gas
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is produced we see a liquid, it comes in a gas, natural gas, liquid. you're probably familiar with propane for a gas kill to have a gas grill, but that is part of the film makes as well, sort of like the plastics and other materials. so we see a wide range of technology access supplies. it really did not have on the radar screen a few years ago. we see a significant resource increase in that. and from the north american standpoint we see a lot of those supplies in america. but we see a growing supply. you could natural-gas. the gas resources to u.s. has grown significantly. nothing changed but technology. over the last ten years the amount of gas that we believe we can access the north america has grown significantly register outside the united states. members would say their is a 200 your supply. >> what does that imply for price? here we going to have fossil
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fuels as cheap as we do right now? >> it is hard to know. that is one of the things that is the most -- by the way, if you look, you won't find much about prices. you take a job at it, but i have to tell you, the confidence around any kind of price outlook is huge. oil markets, global markets, what is happening with north america is important, but is a global supply-demand balance. the middle east remains very important to that. if you could tell me what the political future of venezuela and half the middle east are then maybe i will have a better view of what the price might be. ..
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