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.. >> i think people learn
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pretty quickly when their phone is still live, they get robo calls, their privacy, their identity is stolen. >> journalism no longer exist the way it did in 1989 that contributes to the fact that people cannot get information. >> i don't believe that his for a minute. let me defend a journalism. i know the good old days were so good. with the reversal of glass-steagall or also was cited by a clinton futures
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that was the derivatives market they all happened in the ladies the media did not cover it in any way "the new york times" or the "l.a. times" the "washington post" was a church leaders of the regulation was lousy war after another the basically collapsed upon i of the guinier times "l.a. times" are "washington post" where reporting on weapons of mass destruction and see you could court -- clarify the old days of journalism had mccarthyism, segregation, we had lots of problems. it is true that old model of journalism that had some valuable thing is in its sending reporters around the world to cover the dues to pay a journalist is not something i appreciate we have laws that model the region have positive things in their place and as long as the internet is not shut
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down one reason i am concerned about privacy is i want people to trust online communication or find things out without being watched all the time. people can now be there are a journalist in many ways they can enter one of those the most interesting about politics of the mideast because they could have a block or get an audience i dunno if you are familiar but there are plenty of people who are stuck give the scholarly mode retracts nobody would reid but now they could find a mass audience there is a lot of debate on the internet the things you were talking about for instance, the
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chelsea manning. he lives a few blocks from me but rinaldi is seen as a hero. and it to have 500 students who had never heard of them but into a three hours they could learn a great deal in know more about the break-in of his psychiatrist office what the government did. i don't like to get baum doubt that we lost hour old mechanisms. i am understand. tell me why it is troubling. go back to the microphone.
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i don't want to dismiss your question. >> i am not argumentative but i did not put down journalism i did not say the good old days and i did not refer in any way but i said there is something broken about journalism. i gave a small reference that i was in the trenches that a simple thing without was mentioned here in the talks how many people know what that rdfr or that they come from the russian government? i might to know about it is something in the dissemination that is a breakdown it was not the good old days at all. is it because i am a red head? [laughter]
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>> it is true in the mainstream media of the dough for example, protest where there were 3,000 or in many cases of the reporting to have heroes edward wordy and bernstein investigated with the corporate media has lost its funding and it is rare but we have a come wonderful new medium of the internet even with the evil sulfone set to take pictures we have rodney king but the mainstream media does not cover our have the capacity. i don't think we will read about rfld chips a lot
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because it would horrify people. there is a book and applauds a lot hall macy's has chips and every pairs of shoes it is to most of your clothes do and there is a way to take it out but we don't hear about that as much as some of us will live like. >> i am not a fan but sister sarah palin teaches us to look at the mainstream media, she had appointed they do get a lot of information from the alternative media of. i am part of a privacy working group trying to create awareness the city government wants to put a place that involves not only the rationale of crime designed initially to stop terrorist attacks on the port of oakland the city
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council takes money from the target of paul man security of for a contract known to as nsa west to do real-time surveillance of residence in the city of oakland. as you know, it was involved in the occupied movement and we had 10 percent as the 47th largest city in the country but 10 percent of the occupied arab press were here. in the context of the work against the main awareness center what type of citizen or resident organizing are you aware of with the development of the anti-crime and explicit use
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of these technologies? >> what did under -- whenever you are undertaking locally i am not aware of that much organizing i am interested. scic i doubt it gets a lot of money and a lot of grants to makes of the threat assessment to justify that funding. individuals involved so we had to fabricate it i have a few examples. they are ludicrous. i will try to find out what is happening more. thank you. >> three quick questions i will go fast i read about
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unity with other countries with fiber-optic saw that it is a pipe dream is it even possible? that was a defeat the intelligence gathering of the nsa. bisected question would be how do you combat the tide for those did not value privacy? go from the exchanges of been interested question to say who wants to know? to yogurt people just voluntarily give everything? how to educate and to whom i am not sure people are so aware how much misinformation with a single individual they could but most of the information is inaccurate.
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even with the database segregators even roberta who live todd a street 50 years ago is in l.a. you come up with the aggregate to show conviction said failure to appear for the traffic violation. i don't think people realize the information that they have to try to clear there name. >> the first question is important it is not just brazil but china and every rare but the recognition that our multinational corporations are protected by the nation state and they may be a multinational and other ways but there is a parochial concern and a
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recognition of other areas of control a end to independence to those places to be very important and if these companies want to retain their position they will have to shape up to take on the own government. we are aid normal nation of. we don't have to control everything it takes more room to become more sensible the concerns wages, it's jobs, and we may find their old country the opposition going to war in syria was a good example of that.
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>> how to remind your educate young people especially there are other options one thing that struck me walking by a local community guarded in the east village a side said 15 ways to reclaim a community like say hi to a stranger on the street basic things like open a door but when you read in the mainstream news about and a sample of someone who takes a chance we have some subway incidents were somebody jumped out to help someone they are proclaimed a hero and people like to latch on to those because of the emotional value to put this back in touch with how
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important to humanity is and reaching out to go outside of yourself to connect with someone else. i would urge families to keep teaching young people is important to think beyond the ego your neighborhood or community. don't what the corporation or the empire seeking government tell us how to spend every hour of our days. do something different or take a chance of have some fun. there is a group in new york that i mentioned in my chapters spying on critical mass but in the your kid is assault because there were so infiltrated with police.
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the environmental groups still go out on their bikes just as polders to have a love day people ride over the brooklyn bridge they serve hot chocolate. what they're protesting or for the fund strike a chord because it is human and not a corporation and that is very important. the last question you reminded me of one thing we did not talk about even with the are fit chips. if you have the book with see rfid ship they note that he connected with me so it can track patterns of association in the vacuum just as they gather things without the complete picture it is so easy there is a
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huge danger because we cannot correct it exactly it is something people should be aware of. >> one little answer to that the empire vs. the republic. the gap of wages of jobs is by definition the general ledger is two out of three they no longer make light bulbs or apple has the jobs abroad if the whole notion of your community exists is increasing and, a quality of the nation's state has military clout to protect the overseas interest you have a large alienated population.
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where we get resistance from and then made trappists people make the decision is a career if you could get into the better law school or better position to take care of your family or extended family but if you're not in that league or skill you are a loser but this is a different america. my relatives have a high school degree or a have a life if we go longer have that society be had dislocation so what is your community? what is your responsibility and the distraction is more or patriotism but if you get
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back to your community also get back to privacy or respect for the other and that is a big battle. that is why i keep stressing the military industrial complex. i think common sense will prevail most women do not want to be spied on did not want this information, they want to their privacy. a normal human instinct to be left alone we have a desire for that's so we won't shop at macy's people will be shocked i think. let me ask you a question. we're at berkeley but did we
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miss the person who's in charge of fall plan security ? since when the? and i remember when there was a defense department how did nobody raises question? [laughter] it is absurd trading to be head of the biggest university system in the country that you pour involved with suppressing freedom and trading people? i wanted to say that tonight [laughter] >> faq for that because actually i was intrigued by your question or comment why players are outraged did being a lawyer i with the national lawyers guild also a of also thinking about the famous lawyer that besides at berkeley law school to
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actually in addition to being the right to of the torture memos was actually the first author of the surveillance program that we are now so aware of. i have to share this many people have heard the story of john ashcroft and tuesday and at the bedside that was about the president surveillance program written by john drew all loan initially authorized ward to wiretapping on u.s. citizens although that was a statement of public comment on what it means we have people like john teaching the next generation of lawyers and napolitano just to get your comments.
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[laughter] michael avery former killed president has written a book of the federalist society. that which operates off to the secrecy has really doesn't and excellent job to mentor early students but it has been heavily funded and hases change the landscape over the last three decades because they have written in the thousands of of because priests -- abacus brief and where they had rights liberals to debates but they have cleverly moved young
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conservative richard neal said two additional clerk ships toward corporate law firms positions of power or federal judicial all positions in influencing the of major supreme court decisions to shift the landscape to the right to. that is a factor how we have those individuals interpretation of the laws with the fisa court to facilitate a growing surveillance apparatus. the olympic foundation gives a lot of money and other organizations. i would recommend to there are a good articles of the federalist society it is called how conservatives
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took back sell-off from the left by a michael avery but that has been a factor hundred early bush and administration and drake and administration say really to a cold. >> i don't want to shoot kick anybody out of chichi of a mind -- itemized academic freedom this professor aha should challenge them that is not the problem of this lawyer or that lawyer but the law school or business school where have they bet? what do they teach? to they have efiks? as far as i can see i spoke at the kennedy center my opening question was but how did harvard get to be such
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an inequity? we'll get the terrible things that were done the the up by the extreme right or the tea party people but people we like to have dinner with their those who could talk a good gave. robert rubin these are the ones who did more to mess up the economy than and anyone. look at the crack down on the occupied that was most significant political movement since the civil-rights is seems it was a crackdown by liberal fares i remember speaking at the el a occupied the floor of mayor philip rigo said it did to crack down.
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what was going on? not like we want homeless people in los angeles it is downtown. this was the best spot. white question of really is where are the of moderates or the liberals? i want to be positive because i think it isn't working with imperial america. in to the breakdown of public schools of big tom equality and opportunity to create this content a of people know it. i get into a lot of trouble if you go to with the pta you will see i have been accused of exploiting rand paul and robbed of not quite true but i have pointed out
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that he is opposed to drones and opposed to the federal reserve and interesting little issue but are federal reserve is $85 billion every month to help baker's. every month? net that we talk about the budget who objects? log paul whose of people think is a lunatic but why are they making sees big decisions? who elected them? where does the money go? i look at elizabeth warren on the other side those who are principled and stand for something so i see a movement in this society away from the empire and a
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criticism of wall street of the oligarchy that was not there before. energy coming end with a collapsed labor movement. also california the bellwether for the nation. we had prop. 187 now they're the most of for ted to voting bloc? southern california makes this state solid lead the blue. but we do have leadership in the state. with six different measures.
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i don't want to go through another evening been depressed. i think we will win with privacy. it is against human nature. data want them in their coats our big brother period they will rebel of our job is to get the information out that this is not necessary to security it betrays your security. the basic idea that freedom is not the indulgence that makes you stronger said is how you get teachers we have to have open debate.
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[applause] when i found myself in this situation to talk to you but because you are so deeply focused on something so important people don't have the time or the luxury or the ability your headlights extend much further into the darkness. so we talk right now like a thumb print for apple. we go the you are aware of staff foresees stuff on the horizon that we have no consciousness of so could you give us an idea of the things you are starting to nancy?
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-- see? >> the of the military industrial complex, a trace people, demonize them, i am very aware of that and it extends beyond racial identification as an american community has been hard hit treating people as throwaway children my own son teaches in the schools here with the abandonment of public schools. frankly colin powell is above the recommend to at my class at city college is in new york.
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we had three textbooks in to and i think house supported our society was to us now the guest the area around usc and the breakdown of society and to the abandonment and the whole population in the division division, if i think back the idea to go to work for a bank was lowe's some. and extending into religion we lost the of restraint of a concern for the other the could samaritans.
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we have lost any accountability with the real concern is looking at the statistics of it come the gate and of all the money that we have spent has almost all gone to the top 1 percent. if you want to the description for disaster the somebody cable law to say i am subversive to be sure you how to destroy america that we can totally deregulate the banks let agreed to run
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wild they will package them in a securities stock and then to get out of it we will make the banks hold to protect the 1% in the of the society is so severely divided to have alienation as the norm. that is truly frightening while the optimism people come to their senses that we cannot go on like this. hopefully that will include people to be pessimistic on the proper 30 in silicon valley to vote for an increase of taxes it is a step in the right direction
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to make this place work. >> i will just add we are such a plan the schaede century other countries look to us we have lost the sense of going to a correctional facility and it should make people more inclined to of war criminal acts but i go to visit imprisoned maybe every six weeks now the general population of dr. death row but put these
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beautiful mostly men of color is tragic when you read about the school to prison pipelined punishes children for acting out handcuffed, arrested and it changes their lives and how to read it to this point? so we see options cut off for younger children. a society that seems to have lost the common sense. along with the prospect of
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national identification and program that frightens me but we can fight that. >> just to talk is that it was published by a city life books. [applause] i worked as a the lights books for three years but i love the idea of community resistance that city lights books the word on since 1955 is more powerful the institution we have this
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great book and i was so thrilled to find unquestionably the best books the most important problem that we face. >> faq some much. [applause] ha. [inaudible conversations]
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>> gave fellow i met 2001 in a bad road to a story about his group and there wrote a piece for "the new york times" section about to call the largest trees of the world to protect the genetics so if you would call the redwood tree he would take a branch to make copies of it does not mean tissue but just sit in times it just means making copies to take a branch to blow it to have multiple duplicates of that tree the plan was to take those copies around the world in case of the
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happened to the parent tree. in 1995 for 96 the was working with his two sons in their shade tree farmers of michigan and favor rascally and owners permission to have copies of them. >> he did describe it as a patient he had dared death experience in the '80s to have serious medical problems taken to the hospital and then he said he died. he woke up one morning at 3:00 in the awarding and was told the largest tree of every species these are the survivors when the climate change gets going that the
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survivors would it make it through and come on the other side because they have spent 3,000 years of the planet. they are cutting is like the side of a pencil then they get the roots of them so they take those and growth have until four or 5 feet tall said they planned to those of different places around the world. some are in michigan the starch in the greenhouse so of the use planted around the world. a new forest has been planted it or it could -- or god.
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but their reaction at the time was undercut -- a wonder what this is about the people say we cannot do this because these trees our old trees then people said this is a good idea. why not? if something happens then we have the genetics. what happened not long after is the white oak give merrill lynch johnny santry been there for generations over 400 years blue over and died. he already cloned the trees so very have the copy they replanted it on the site of the original tree. so there was a story in "the new york times" one of the oldest trees in the world they are dying they are
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found in california and utah and nevada berry highway elevations they survive that long they go to places with it is called a and inhospitable but not anymore so bugs and sees can survive. there is a base of more exotic species coming from other countries and they came together an a perfect storm and they are killing the bushels:and they will kill all of them. that is the climate change does and it changes the soil , the insects, diseases and all the things together rekeyed have picked them all the things we have done to fragment your cut down the biggest specimen so we destroy those genetics then
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here comes climate change and acid rain is a death of a thousand cuts so what they said the what was your of the europeans came? it is about 95% on some of the trees that learn to survive for god and a lot of them now except for the old growth trees most it is god and to they have the genetics of survivors. that learns from those things and it stores various
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so that time around it does better to resist disease did they can pass that to the trees around it that is unusual. that is why it is important to protect what is left and right to seek people do pay attention and especially as the trees die that is what we see with the what twisted trees that are disappearing one of the themes of the book is how little reid know or how important much more important to rethink not much has been done but they are particularly with climate change as it gets worse they could reduce us a
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temperature will save us all a country by ted decreased to show that there is fewer admissions to asthma with your brand areas they filter water or clean up toxic waste sites wildlife habitat , there is some ecological services. >>'' was his reaction rude to the book? fisa genscher there are party did not like so he told me the stories of the things that came from him. i wish you did not put that in there

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