in the water. our culture has got it wrong. let's open up a dialog to get it right. so that in the face of the voices of recovery, i'm pretty busy. guess host a wonderful, wonderful. we've got a few minutes left. i wonder if there's anything else you would like to save about this issue, about your book, i love the title, "drink: the intimate relationship between women and alcohol" because that's what it is. it is a relationship, whether we like it or not. >> guest: yes, i guess what i would like to say is i don't mean to be a killjoy. i certainly enjoyed my fair share of alcohol in my life. but one of the things that really alarms me, other than this data about young women, really alarmed me was the fact that the more professional, more educated you were, the more likely you are going to get into trouble with alcohol. in fact, you're one protector is

a blue-collar job. that is scary because as women become more educated, as women are occupying the lion share of deceit and postsecondary institutions across north america and elsewhere, what's happening to us? why do we think we have two non-and vacate with alcohol? by this? it's more than just celebration. something is going really wrong. so that feminize drinking culture is alive and well. i just want to put up a hand in say, let's have a hard look at what's going on and know your personal vulnerabilities. i should've known with two alcoholic parents that i was pretty vulnerable. now whether you're vulnerable to breast cancer. you should really know what you're putting in your throat and take a hard look, just like with everything else. are you safe? are you healthy? is it okay for you? if it is, wonderful.

>> host: very good, very good. i do like the bottle print. >> guest: they did a wonderful job. >> host: they did, they did. well, i think that this kind of brings us to a conclusion. but i just wanted to say thank you, that i did enjoy having this congress nation with you. i think that you bring up a very i guess alarming issue that really does not get to the table very much except i know within the profession that i worked in this field is always there, but to the general public it is not there having a conversation and i think being able to have it from one professional to another, but also the community level will be very critical. >> guest: thank you. thank you very much. >> host: thank you.

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years and millions of dollars creating their own and manage. and so, i think it's viable sometimes to go behind that. usually, i am the one who is trying to get behind that and tell you what's going on. >> we visited the area without our local cable partner, charter, to bring you the areas which literary culture in history. local author richard manning sat down with us to talk about gardening. the book is called "against the grain: how agriculture has hijacked civilization."

>> the culture was in some ways a devil's bargain. we began by domesticating weak and not the way we always talk about it. the fact is we domesticated us in some ways. we gave up the freedom to wander in together as we done for 50,000 years. that may be better or worse than agriculture in some ways. we can argue that as a value judgment. the fact of evolution made us to be that way. we surrendered the conditions that we have all been there. people still argue a lot about how agriculture happened. the classic story as we ran out of game essentially. we became overpopulated. there were too many people. the one that one guy woke up that i think all of that agriculture. that is not the way it happened probably, but that's one story. another suggested disturbances by living together. the disturbance or the soil,

people compacted soil, walking around villages come in that sort of thing. we started eating the sweets, which were grass essentially. but it happened and happened in five different places. in some ways it was inevitable because it happened independently in so many ways. but once that happened, the people started becoming highly dependent on migraine and highly dependent on city living at produce and we were domesticated just like our livestock in some ways. domestication occurred in five different places on the planet in each of those had a different crop. it was the basis of it. in the middle east come it was weak. we domesticated wheat from wild grass that grew there, a predecessor just in an area that is now iraq oddly enough. in asia, there were two separate domestication of rice. rice became the foundation and really the analog for wheat are

exactly as we did in the middle east. there was a separate domestication of rice in africa that we know about in the new world in north america and south america. corn and squash and beans were domesticated in north america appeared in south america it was potatoes essentially. to those of the mainline crops in the mainline crops today. they still account for something like 72% of human patient today. the effect of agriculture on people is very much like domestication and other animals. we started moving a lot less because we were sedentary. we lived in cities. we were able to store grain. because we could store grain, that was wild. because there is wealth, there is poverty. there is hierarchy, leaders, people in control, which we never ask us before. institutions like churches and government, which never existed before. those things serve to work in a society and a regiment deciding ways that we could continue to

produce or fluid. the main trust of agriculture and the environment was there from the very beginning. we tend to think of agriculture today is industrial agriculture and somehow that different than what we've been doing for six or eight or 10 dozen years. in fact, the principle is exactly the same period were not doing all that much that's different. the plants we do meet her biological freaks. they are annual grasses, which are very rare in nature. nature prefers perennials. and because they are there for a special purpose. they are there to colonize areas after a fire, after a flood, after rail disaster has occurred. something that resets the biological clock is zero. so what we do when we do agriculturists mimic that disaster. we create disaster. that disaster is what allows us

annuals to grow. sweep out the front every year and reduce the biological clock again to zero. it requires energy and fertilizer in a number of other things to sustain that disaster year after year. that's farming. to change recall industrial agriculture really occurred beginning at about 1940, 1930. it became in the united states. there is almost an intensification that more than almost. it was a serious intent to vacation of what had gone on before. a number of things made it possible. the biggest of those is very simple. it's called short plant. breeders were able to make wheat, and especially rice to invest more of its energy into its feeding. at the same time, it was sustain heavy doses of chemical fertilizers. those two things together cause

what really were calling the green revolution around the rest of the world. and that's what it was, green revolution. very much was in an evolution agriculture. but we can read the revolution that would have required, which was a very rapid and a vocation of use of chemical fertilizers and pesticides. both of those things. i'm also here acacia water. those things came together she really very much in a society impact of agriculture on the environment. one of the results of the green revolution also is economy of scale. so it became much efficient or large-scale. small firms went away. and so, we are typically a farm in the midwest to be a couple hundred acres here among tampa, 500, 600. it's about 3000 acres. generally employs one person.

one person is able to take 3000 acres. fewer people live on far. it depopulated the landscape and create a series of very large farms. those are the independent farms. the large corporate farms into hundreds of thousands of acres. profitability of farming is the really interesting question. people who long for free-market in the united states should be good to start with farming. that's the only place we really don't have anything that looks at the free-market. so most of farming and come is based on world war ii. it is designed with the best of intentions but very progressive government that wanted to make farming last -- less financially hard on the people who did it.

the corporations take advantage of it and what about the subsidy more than anything else. we can't say how profitable the land is paid we can say how profitable farming the government has. here in montana, for an, one county was profiled in entire county of farmers. every farmer except three or accepting subsidies. the average subsidy payment per farmer was $30,000 a year. that's the profit of the farm. politically, the agriculture industry has a very interesting problem, especially with the declining number of people on the land. so farmers are about 1% of the american population. how can they believe politically significant 1%? the answer is the lobbyist at multiplying a couple couple of effects. one of those is kind of the warm spot in our heart we have for

farmers. it was a great domain name that is the foundation of the countries of farmers circuit people. some of them are really good people. i'm not disputing that at all. in fact, that plays out for a lot. but what also works in work even more so in years past his agriculture is big business. it is not just about farmers. it is about fertilizers. it's about the processors, the food industry. it's about making tractors. all of those things come together in a much, much larger business. and it is an alliance with those other businesses that farmers multiply and become very powerful. now, if you notice, all of that has to do with the industrial side of agriculture. so those farmers who are trying to his tape the industrial system don't have a political help because they don't have industrial allies and is a very different system. it's why the industrialized

system has moment of. the issue of political power of farming has a lot to do with the public's knowledge of what goes on in the system that solves. the public's knowledge of the raw politics of farming is pretty scant. people really don't understand exactly how their food is produced. if they did, they would he out reached more than are. but they do understand his quality of the food. during the last 10, 15 years since i've been covering this issue and thinking about this issue, there's been almost a groundswell of public awareness of the quality of food. it's a selfish thing in some way but that's fine because people began their awareness by what they eat every day and at some point they understand the industrial food thereby at the supermarket that is harming them. it's not very good. it's not very pleasant to read

the food is supposed to be pleasure. so by understanding that he can in the process they are in understanding our health is effected by our food, what's more important to our health and our food? by understanding those things, people are becoming aware and catching other issues and demanded it be better for the agricultural system. used to talk about change 10 or 15 years ago as a hypothetical, but this could have been. things like farmers markets in every town or across finished beats available in the supermarket. 10 years ago, that's not very long ago. those things were a dream. the industrialized people were saying no, the american consumer will never accept this. well, the american consumer has in everyone of us does today we can go to a farmers market in our town. it happened in big cities like new york, san francisco or los angeles. it happened to little towns like

helena, montana. we as farmers markets. it's a really healthy start. there are many networks springing up a farm to consumer, direct marketing going on. so i can buy a house with either here in helena, montana, knowing the rancher. i go shake his hand and he shows me how the animal is raised and he shows me the exact conditions that created that meet. that's really important. but that's possible it wasn't possible 10 years ago. industrial culture is taking notice of the change that's happening 10 years the biggest response has been all sorts of green labeling and green marketing going on, famous as a natural product and so forth and stretching the bounds of your imagination on the word natural. but nonetheless, that is a backhanded complement in some

ways. the industry recognizes there's a will willpower there for change. the attempt by showing some profit out of the deal. it's precedes e2 expose the that's the same time and say here's the real deal over here, where you ought to be going. so that strategy is pretty easy to defeat. behind the scenes, industrial agriculture at the same time still lobbyist for the system, still tries to preserve the status quo, so argues is to raise wheat gets us all shaker. and yet, that is the addict to powers of sugar. when people read a book, i hope they understand that laxity of the problem. we are almost devolved to be absolutist about food in understand food very narrow it. i don't like this. i like this. and food fetish about, we are

fetishes take about food. i hope that is not what they do. i hope people say okay, this is interesting, but still at the same time, understand the broader implications, but also understand food is wrapped up in our humanity of who we are. it is how we communicate each other in many ways. i hate to see people give that up and to be so moralistic about food that they fail to understand this is how we come together. this is how we enjoy life with food. with a few minor adjustments we can enjoy life again with food. >> here is a look at vaux being published this week.

.. political controversy, and some of the most memorable moments in american culture. the winner of the outstanding author award from the american society of journalists and authors, the author of nine nonfiction books