think that it's always on the move, and our -- i don't know how much energy to spend on being offended by my lee cyrus thinking she's black. like, i don't know. [laughter] >> right. >> i absolutely agree. one of the things that drove me crazy. i didn't watch it, i don't care. i was sick of hearing about my lee cyrus. we have so much to do, stop wasting energy on this girl, what she's doing. i think that, you know, the cultural appropriation question is one that bothers us, absolutely, that cultures are, you know, they are borderless. i mean, we live right next to each other, always cultures informing and influencing each other, and you're right is that there's so much new produced that one of the things that black culture does is it is constantly on guard, constantly creating and recreating something new. you mentioned justin bieber and

robin thicke, is it, you know, and this is what you can tell young people is it's tired. it's, you know, we listen to it and say that sounds like robin gaye, r and b30 years ago, so it's right that there is a constant mobility in moving in the sort of creativity of what's created right outside is more interesting and exciting than what happened on that mtv stage. i don't watch it. it doesn't suit me in my way. >> at the same time, i would hasrd to guess that creativity is under assault by the high mind lack of real culture that's being in their heads all the time. it is something to think about, and i think what you say about what you and your own efforts do to share your knowledge and experience and love of the

culture is an important thing, and i think creating moments of transmission across generations is super important even if it's just your cousins, play them marvin gay. at the same time, those kids have youtube, and, like, there's an incredible archive of everything ever created. that's also amazing. >> right. i find that so many of them know, fine stuff that i didn't even know about. i think the work that you do one-on-one and what we all have to do is very important, and young creative mind are absorbing it all like sponges and unlike the kind of commercial rejournallation of something that happened, they'll process it if they have access to it in really interesting and exciting ways. thank you so much. [applause]

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reagan, how republicans once mastered politics and can again. >> in bringing this book as a scientist is that given the realities, the impact drugs have on social policy, on race, on our culture is often times

distorted by lack of evidence-based thinking, that, instead, people rely on antedotes or on fears rather than on the facts, so is that the heart and soul of the book? >> that's the heart and soul of the book. you know, one of the things that troubled me for many years is drugs are used as scapegoats. whenever there's social problems and so forth, we use drugs as scapegoats. the problem for me is that people who look like me are often skate goated more than other folks, and as a scientist who knows the facts about drugs, that's very disturbing. >> okay. well, i would think as a black person, it would be very disturbing. >> guest: no, that's exactly what i mean. >> host: okay. so let's stop for a second then, and try to understand more

whites use crack than blacks, and similarly, more blacks went to jail, arrested for crack use than whites even though more whites were using the drug. how do you explain that? >> guest: i explain it by it's -- it's kind of simple. you know, the short answer is racism. this isn't new. when we -- when i say "racism," i mean, what we do is puts our police resources in communities of colors, primarily black communities, and you can easily get people, catch people doing something illegal, no matter what. i mean, i drive my car, for example, i sometimes pass the speed limit. that's illegal activity. now, if they want, they can give me a ticket, and so that doesn't happen because the resources are not where i'm at, most of the

time. i hang out in the upper west side, but if you want to catch people doing crimes, you put your police resources in those communities, and that's what's happened. i mean, this is not new. one of the things like the crack cocaine thing, it's important to know that in the early 1900s, cocaine was used by a wide number of americans. it was in coca-cola, for example. it was in a number of products. now, there was concern when black people started to use cocaine, for example, i think the "new york times" had an article in 1914 about the black folks being a new southern -- black cocaine is a new southern menace, and the way that cocaine was talked about or black people under the influence of cocaine was that it caused them to be more murderous. it caused them to rape white women. it caused them to be uneffected

by bullets. all of this nonsense, this was going on then, and it's going on now; although, the language has been tempered. drugs are easy scapegoats because most of the population don't use drugs. you can't say these things about alcohol, even though alcohol is pharmacology active like any other drug like cocaine and other things. you can't say crazy things about alcohol because many people drink alcohol and know the effects of alcohol. fewer people use cocaine, and so you can tell the credible, incredible stories about cocaine. watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. now on booktv, cnn's morgan talks about shooting straight talking about the career in journalism and weighs in on gun control, gay marriage, and religion.