individual attention and mentoring of the kind that they are not close to getting. and we don't have a way of bringing the people who want to work together with those and i don't think it's traditional government that's going to do it that i also don't think it's going to be turning a country into some kind of libertarian paradise. see with that, join me in thanking larry summers. ..

>> there is a lot going on. we have been having different hearing and have been active. there is big issues out there like the spectrum option. and there are different things out there. but it doesn't make all of the news. but the subcommittee has been active. i want to ask you about the fcc brand new members coming in and what the is importance of that? >> it is important they all appear before us in the committee and they can ask questions to find out where they are going. especially if we are talking about the reform and what the

future holds. what their thoughts and philosophy is. we have had the commissions before us, but it is important the chair is bringing in the fcc right now. >> what do you mean by fcc reform? >> there are different things out there. transparency and predictability and moving things along. it took the chairman ten years for something to get done. having something out there is like having a cost base analysis of what they do. making sure they understand, like any regulation, that their regulations have a direct impact on the economy and they need to realize that because it affects everybody from large to small. and we will be talking about that for the smaller folks. but it is important that say fcc

np understands they are part of the process and that process affects so many people across the country. >> brendan sasso is here, frequent guest on the communica communicate. >> as you know, senator iraq -- rockefeller -- provided protection to online video. what do you think of the bill? is that something sh the house is going to look at? >> when i look at what is happening in our committee, full committee and subcommittee, i would thsay that is not going t get much workism i don't see it

moving along in the house. >> senate rockefeller is retiring at the end of next year so will the idea never go anywhere? >> another member will pick up pieces sometimes down the road. but at this stage, i don't see the legislation moving >> are you opposed to that? >> i don't think it has had the airtime. it is something the committee hasn't taken a look at. >> also asking about another online video issue and that is ais a aaero. is this something congress will take up?

>> it is in the courts right now. two courts have ruled differently on the issue. it is one of those things out there that when you look at, i think they have 40-50,000 subscribers, and i think at this time, the committee is going to wait and see what the courts will do and go from there. >> you write the laws. the broadcasters have saying if they lose they will take the content off the air. and the nfl and major league basketball filled a brief saying if they win they will move all of the games on cable networks. >> i think it comes down to what the courts are going to do as this moves forward. i think tht that the committee is going to watch what is going on, and once the courts come up with a result, the committee can go back. >> do you have a feeling?

how did you stand on that? when you look at the concept, what do you think? >> it is an issue that out there that i have not taken a stand. you talk about bringing the fcc commissioners before us, this hole industry is -- whole -- changing rapidly. we have situations where you are looking at if the regulations come up or we pass a piece of legislation without taking a look way down the road, a lot of times the init -- industry -- might be two step s ahead of us. years ago, people wouldn't have thought that somebody on a college campus would be streaming netflix on to an i-phone to watch a movie. this is what is happening out

there. and we have this huge issue out there that the technology and because, again, you know not trying to date myself, but i remember in northwest ohio, depending on the day if the antenna worked you have one channel, maybe two, or none because your depending on the light and everything else. but the industry is changing so quickly. and i want to make sure we have things out there and the regulations and laws on the book that spur this innovation. i think we have created on the cellphone side about $3.8 million jobs direct or indirect. we are watching an explosion out there. and the other interesting fact is they are saying by the year 2017, we are looking at probably

having 1.4 mobile devices per capita across the entire worldme worldment -- world -- when you look in this country and what you have in your pocket. you might have 2-4 types of mobile devices. so this is such an interesting subcommittee to serve on because of hearing the innovation happening. >> your answers leads to two different areas of questions. we have talked about the rewrite of the tell communications act of 1996 and whether it should be done wholesale or piece meal. do you have a feeling about that? >> when you look at what is happening with the acting from 1996 and where we are today. you have to go back and look at what is in the act and how it

per pertains to today. are the laws still cognizant to where we are today. and that is where i think the hearing we have been having from stella and the spectrum side, you have to look at the breadth of the law and say it is meeting the needs of where we are in 5-20 years down the road. >> and the second issue is is the spectrum available for the 1.4 devices by the end of the year? >> when you look at the timeframe out there, my staff and i ran over to the fcc war room to see how they are setting

up. because this is going to be the most complicated auction. a reverse trying to repack the center for the folks out there that are giving up on the broadcast side of where they are going to be. so, then you run into questions how is this going to play out for the different individual or different companies out there if they want to get into this auction. and because again, as you said we absolutely need the spectrum. we are looking at on the government side, are we taking up too much spectrum on the defense side and such. all of those things are being looked at. but the auction is going to be crucial because it will raise around $26-$27 billion is what the estimate is.

and $7 billion is used for first net out there for the first responders. so this is thing is technical but it will have to raise money to meet the needs that are being projected. >> any particular proposals you are worried about? p p p p party people and what not? >> i talked to folks back in my areas and i said if we would have a situation where you would be limited as to who you could sell your spectrum to wolluld y do that? and they said why would we get into an auction system where

we'll not get the full value of what it is worth. we want it to be fair. and that is one of the big things. you have to look at who the players are going to be out there. but again, for people to get into this, you will have to say folks out there have to be willing to sell and give up that spectrum. >> do you think that some sort of limitations would be appropriate? it is the job of the fcc to promote the public interest and competition and at the end of the auction, you have an industry that is dominated by two players, a trbt&t and veriz. >> we have hearings in the committee from across the spectrum of everybody out there and listening to their needs and

how they will go forward. if they will be selling or buying. and we will look at what is out there with all of the individuals and consider the companies and public as we go forward. we have got to have the spectrum because if we don't we are limiting ourselves. >> if tom wheeler comes up with the structure where at&t and r verizon is limited. what happens? >> if two top players are excluded you will have companies saying we will not sell or get into it. we will go into the an auction that has to raise $26 billion.

and they are committing already $7 billion. without the dollars you cannot move forward with the other proposals. so it comes down to if we are going to exclude people at the start, you will exclude people from entering the option. >> congressman latta, you have a meeting with first net this week. what is your concern about that? >> i heard from folks in ohio and virginia and mary land and the folks in the states are feeling like they are being excluded from the decision-making. they feel they are not being part of the process and they want to be part of it. they are worried about the cost because states like ohio have invested a lot of money in the

emergency folks. and we have heard from folks and they want to be included in the decision-making process. i think it is important, and i think we will have someone coming from ohio to give testimony this week, because we heard from virginia, and mary land. >> is first net big footing the first responder structure? >> you are looking at how people are going to be responding. i was a county commissioner for six years and work would the sheriff's office and others. your emergency responders from police, fire, ems, all of the individuals out there are concerned they have to be able to talk with each other. they have to be able to make sure that someone isn't int

interfering with their job. the folks at the state level say this should be an inclusive process and they are included in the decision-making. they can help say if this is the right thing to do. you have to listen to the people that have boots on the ground at home to make it work. >> one of issues that congress is likely to deal with is stela. satellite television reauthorization bill. do you think that should be a clean reauthorization or other issue congress should look done.

and making sure that it is, again, it is one of those complicated bills that could be that way. but i don't think we will see it. >> but there are issues that people might want to address. retransmission issue where broadcasters are asking for more money than what the cable providers want to pay and consumers lose access to stations. >> that is what the chair is looking at saying we will not do

a comprehensive bill. i think it is up to greg as to what he says down the road and envisions as not being a comprehensive piece of legislation for the reauthorization. >> you have your cable card bill. is that something the subcommittee is going to take up? and is that something you would like to see as part of this reauthorization? >> i would like to see my legislation on the cable card be enacted because when you look at what happened out there, we have 42 million cable boxes out there. what the fcc did wasn't what they thought and that was to spur people to go buy their own boxes. this broadband is costing $56

more per box. and when the secretary of energy was before he brought up they are using more energy because of all that is in there. so we are not telling them they can not integrate, but they can't force these cards that run up the cost that is costing consumers and everybody about a billion dollars >> tevo is concerned your bill would make it harder for consumers to buy their product. is that a legit concern? >> when you look at the options it is amazing what people have out there and what they can have for televisions. and as mentioned earlier, folks are getting service from the

internet. and a lot of things that were thought about several years ago at the fcc are not going to be pertaining to where we are in the next years. the industry is changing. back several years ago, cable was much larger share out there. satellites in there now. so you have people getting their information and how they are getting their television viewing a lot different than it was 5-15 years ago. >> back to the original question about the bill, is this coming up in the subcommittee and something you see being part atmosphere -- part of this? -- >> we would like to work with the committee and i have had folks from both sides in my office. i would like to find a vehicle that we can move forward on

this. i think it is good for the consumers and this is something the fcc in my opinion went beyond what they were supposed to be doing. >> congressman, you have raised the issue of rural call completion. what is the issue you are most concerned about and what is a solution? >> you have to look at everyone's district. i have a unique one. i go from representing a metro area with a city all the way to very, very small communities. i have very small telephone companies out there that might have 2500 folks they service. and the problem you run into is that not only are they servicing individuals but small businesses. and these businesses can't survive if people cannot get

ahold of them. i have heard from folks that said, you know, if they have an elderly parent or a friend and what is wrong? i cannot get through. they call the police and sheriff's office and ask if you could stop by and see if my friend or relative is okay. when you look at these calls being dropped. and we have started working on that in my office several years ago. and congressman welch from vermont is with this. we have to make sure they are complete the calls to a friend and neighbor and to make sure people can make calls back into the areas so they can actually, you know, conduct business. when you are having situations and it was like the problem that

escalated by 2,000 percent is what the fcc calculate. so they have to go in and look at and find out who the bad apples out there and make sure the calls are being completed. and they need to be looking at these things and moving down the road on that. >> what about usf refound when it comes to funding broadband? >> when you look at broadband that is a good question. people in the rural areas don't have cell service. and they are tied to land lines. so they have to have that service. it is making sure that both

sides are being looked at because it would be great to see it will be broadband. i have talked to groups and services and they are on a line of sight. if there are trees between them and the signal. we looked at 95 percent of the country being able to get broadband and have access to it. but at the same time, in certain areas you have to make sure you are looking at both sides and not just one and saying this is the future. but the future is for come today. and others down the road. and then you will have them not getting the service they need. >> so you have to look at it both ways.

the whitehouse is asking the fcc to expand their e-rate program and they would like the fcc to spend a few billion more to make sure every school has access to broadband. do you think this is something they should focus on? >> some states expanded on their own. ohio's former governor pushed to wire the schools for the future. and again, i think that when you are looking at, first of all, where are the dollars comes from. we have a fiscal problem out there. and again, whether the requirements need to be put on the schools because a lot of folks say if you do this, what

are the requirements that the federal government is going to impose on you for doing that. and that is another issue that has to be addressed. first the question is do the schools expecting to do this? >> i think through the usf or fees on the monthly phone bill. >> on the usf, do they want to up the cost to the con consumer again? the cellphone usage question came up and if we are finding out that concern people shouldn't have gotten it and too many dollars have been expended, will the folks owning the cell phones, meaning you and me, are we getting that reduced because we should not have to pay for

it? folks after looking at their bills and say why is it so expensive and say can i afford this. it is really to take a back and go on your monthly bill. but we have a lot of folks just barely making it and saying another cost imposed. >> and what do you think about the 5-0 vote to loosen restrictions on foreign ownership of media companies? >> i think what we have to look at is important. how is that going to affect you and me in the country? a lot of people across the country and my area get concerned about the foreign ownership. are they keeping a close watch on it. will it benefit the americans? i think you have to take that into the consideration. you know, people worry about

what happens if someone comes in and buys up all of the farmland and same thing, what if someone by -- buys -- up the airways. >> and represent bob latta, had been from ohio and services an the energy and commerce committee. >> c-span brought to you as a public service be your television provider. >> coming up, coverage of the funeral of president john f. kennedy on the 50th anniversary

and then a bipartisan meeting and then a panel on nuclear energy. >> the companies have notice how mrs.nixon was looking at a pack mg of cigarettes and admired the pandas at the zoo and they said they will have them going home with you. it was important to be there. and evidence at the end of the trip are where news report came out and they would talk about the president that way and say what a wonderful job nixon did. >> pat nixon tonight live.

>> next a portion of the john f. kennedy funeral. broadcast on november 25, 1963. it will have the footage of the family going with the casket through the streets and it concludes at the burial site. >> we are on the steps of the capital. and as i look across at the huge crowds that have gathered, the navy broadband -- band is -- about to play hail to the chief

and the casket is brought down. a quite crowd. one paying their very last respects and waiting patiently in the cold morning air. the casket is rolling to arlington cemetery. you will notice something in the crowd. they are conscious that there is a television camera on them. they are looking at us mnow. you will see no waves. i saw one. there always has to be just one.

it is quite in washington today. there is only one feeling in this town. just one. shared by all of us. and now let's go back to hue downs. >> that from the steps of the capital here in washington. it is an incredible thing how beginning with the tragedy and assassination of kennedy to the aftermath of smacked of a mad

unraveling of reason. in chicago, a man turned to his wife and said the president was shot in the head and i will shoot myself and he did and fatal. in iowa a man was outraged about the remarks regarding kennedy and attacked him and stabbed him. the film on us can be scratched thin when something happens. it is understandable how the nation feels. chief justice had in mind when he warned against intolerance of any kind. this man that believed in reason and intolerance died at the hand's of a man who was

intolerant and fanatic. and congressman of texas said when he was here in the studio that he hoped if there was any benefit at all it would derive from this terrible thing that happened and that hopefully the world, country and state would learn a lesson that extremism is what is intolerant. one thing was the generous nature of the americans and an hour after the funeral there is a modest service for tippet who gave his life trying to catch s oswald and was shot down.

there wasn't a provision in the pension so he died without money. but they have donated many thousands of dollars to the family. so i knew that the desire for him would be there to do something for him. republican congressman of pennsylvania says he is going to introduce a bill to make it a federal crime to kill or con spico conspire to kill the president. it hasn't been a federal crime until now. assaulting the president, or assa assassinating the president comes under the statue of the state in which the crime happens in. >> he is going to be tried, had oswald lived, he would have been

tried as an assassin in the state of texas. it didn't matter. if you remember when you look back at the history of when lincoln was killed by booth even those in the boarding house where the crime was planned were charged by the court. and in the wake of that, many people felt injustice had been done and the people in the board themselves were tried by the military court. there was no necessity for making it a federal crime. it wasn't a significant change. i can understand the emotion that with the congressman that made the proposal, but i don't

think there is a need for this. >> there is an odd statistical safety against this kind of isolated madness. 36 men, 35 different men have held the office of president, including johnson. only four have tragically been removed by an act of violence. the strength and feelings in political situations might indicate there might be a potential for a higher number. there is safety in that it isn't too likely to happy n. but when it does, it doesn't lesson the blow. >> 20 percent have died in office. four violently and four died in office. and one thinks in that sense if

you get it in terms of numbers and statistics it means 1-5 men elected to presidency die in office. >> one interesting note here, you noticed in the funeral cort cortez, the rider of the horse wasn't able to behave in a way. this was a pakistan thorough bread that belonged to ms. kennedy -- bred -- and he was nervous because he wasn't trained to crowds. we talked about mrs. kennedy

and the fact shaez she is walking behind the casket. >> and the children. i thought that was a moving story that hail boggs told. the story of how the 3-year-old son was taken away by one of the police guards because of course a youngster that small couldn't understand what was going on. he was restless and they took him to the speaker's office, speaker mccormic's office, and there were two little american flags on the desk of the speaker's clerk. youngster looked at them and they give him one. he held it and said can i have the other one for my father one

of the most moving things. the innocence of a small child who it will only dawn on him about the loss. it is like a loplay. all the way home, the boy said if i want to show my new hat to him. and that kind of thing is more standing out than the grief of an older person. we want to look at where the coffin has re-prosed through the night. and at st. matthews as we drew near the two and a half hour bro

broadcast. >> >> it will now be 10:30 as i understand. they may not have heard that. we just got our microphones back on. >> it had been intended that the coffin of the president was to be removed at 10:00 and carried

to st. matthews for the service. but the schedule was changed and decided to move at 9:30. so in about 8 minutes it will leave for the last time and be carried to st. matthews for the service. i will imagine the schedule is one half hour earlier if they carry it through. >> i don't know the distance between the places. about what kind of time table will that bring up? >> since mrs. kennedy and the

family and the chief of state are to walk behind the coffin from there to st. matthews, no one is sure how long that will take. it is slow process and perhaps that is why they are allowing the extra time to bring that into being. but had when the coffin is taken after the service to arlington cemetery there is going to be no walking on foot at that time. everyone will be in limo's and following it to arlington because that is a considerable distance. it would be at least, oh i would think, about 3-4 miles. it would be impossible and too wearing on the widow and family to attempt that on foot.

>> in order to be brought up and it has seen repetition to some of us who have been involved in it. but in a way as unremitting as it has been, it is a remarkable short time to do proper honor to a man who has given so much to the country. a much shorter time than in the old days. lincoln's funeral train went for weeks and that is the only way the country could see it. >> today he is set in the resting place at arlington cemetery.

three days after his assassination. we draw near the end now of our special 2.5 hour broadcast of today. i would like to make a comparison if i might now between this tragedy and another tragedy of a totally different nature. poplar historians are sometimes accused of embroiding the facts and as we watched the long line of mourners we couldn't help but make the contrast with a seen described in vianna in the year 1971. a horse drawn cart delivered,

covered what he had with dirt and let no stone to mark the spot. there wasn't a living creature who failed enough to follow the resting corpse none, except for a small dog that sat alone wh whimpering. that is how it was when they buried mozart. today no one even knows where he sleeps, but the music he left is our pride and shame. our pride because it urges us to rise above ourselves. and our shame because it reminds us of the way the world broke first the heart and then body of a genius. today, all of the world knows

where kennedy will sleep. the people will provide the sorry. great princesses and heads of state coming to pay him homage. all through the long night and greatest wake in history. more than 200,000 people filled in to gaze upon this coffin and feel the cold breath of eternity touching their lives. but he dies in vein if it doesn't inspire others to walk his path. christ without christianity would be meaningless. if john f. kennedy's death is to be meaningful americans must

remember for the things he stood. we don't serve his memory when we respond with nothing but guilt and anger that lead to self pity and the desire for revenge. the sad accesses were seen yesterday when man committed murder in the name of john f. kennedy. and other americans, like the woman who applauded the killing of him at the airport of oswald and saying i am glad he is dead. if that is what he learned from him, his martyrdom would have a hollow ring. if that is all the example means, the weeds will grow tall

and men will forget him. his monument is us. he leaves this actions, words and examples. and among this words are penned in this direct style. any system of government will work when everything is going well. it is the system that functions in the pinches that survives. john f. kennedy would appreciate it you would help your government function in this pinch.

>> we will bury a president this morning. preparati preparations are being net. this is the scene in the national capital. throughout the night thousands filled in the building to pay their last respect to john f. kennedy. all through night, the people came, men/women/children, that has been stopped now and preparations are going forward for the mass said in st. matthews and then the body is going to the whitehouse and the family will march behind the casket from the whitehouse to

saint matthews cathedral where mass will be said for the president. through the night here, you are seeing people filled in. some waited ten hours in below freezing temperatures to get the. they had no food unless they thought enough to bring some. many brought children and carried and held them to walk them through this area to see the casket that is containing the body of the late president. some made it in 7 hours. some 10. there was never a break. the session kept moving across the stone floor. it started yesterday afternoon when through all of the day, all of the night, until roughly a half hour ago, 32 minutes ago when it was stopped. police will have to pay

attention to these things. estimated that 140,000 people did file through to pay respect. and now the honor guard. >> they are changing. there are members of the military service who have stood their tour of duty at the bear of the late president. and now see see others moving in to take their place. the one guard takes over and the other guard is relieved. members of the armed services.

the most excruciating tour any armed service member can perform. the ritual. everything moment precise. everything movement by the book. every movement in honored of john f. kennedy.

even as the secession from kennedy to johnson takes place, so does this secession. one group is relieved and another group takes their place. cagical -- casket covered in flags. -- they stand and they will stand that way until others come to take their places. that is a military tradition and

john f. kennedy was a military man. the people were to have filled through there for a portion of yesterday. it was originally planned for the night it would be closed. but so many people came to play their last respects it was kept open throughout the night. the weather was bitter cold. but that didn't matter. they didn't come to consider the weather. they came to pay their last respects to john f. kennedy. 16 blocks lined up one way and the other way. the line doubling back. and in washington the blocks are long city blocks. they stayed there and moved slowly if you consider the weather, much too quickly if you consider the amount of respect they wanted to show to the president. but they were there and filled

through throughout the night. now it has been closed to the public and the last preparations are going forward. there will be the formalities today of baurying a man and a president. and about an hour and ten minutes from now, jaclyn is to leave the whitehouse, go to the capital and there is a funeral procession and then at that point, mrs. kennedy her brother-in-law will walk from the whitehouse to st. matthews

cathedral in washington, d.c. the arch bishop of boston n is going to celebrate the mass. it is because he is a bishop the word is called pontificate. it will be a low mass and he is not going to be assisted by the deacon and sub-deacon. it will not be a sung mass. it will be a simple mass for john kennedy. then after the mass is completed, and there is no ula y ulagy, it will go to arlington national cemetery and from

3-3:30, jaclyn kennedy will receive visiting heads of state and heads of foreign delegations. she will meet them, undoubtedly display the same self-control she has shown throughout all of this. we go now for pictures. >> there is a democratic john mccormick there. and claud pepper of florida.

>> we are not picking out dignitaries to name. we are just identifying people who have came to pay tribute to

the man with whom they have worked. many members of the congress were given an opportunity on pass through in private. they did so and are back again. it is not easy to say good-bye it a man. but they must. they come and stand. and there is john lindsey, republican congressman from new york city. they stand

after four. [silence] [silence] >> of you simple floral tributes in the rotunda in the capital of the united states. plane, bronze casket covered by of flag of the united states. with then, the body of john fitzgerald kennedy, 36.

assassinated on friday, november november 22nd, 1963 in dallas texas. and the last tributes are paid. he worked in this building. the house of representatives, a member of the senate he worked a few blocks from here in the white house. it was a job. it was a calling.

it was a life. a life he gave. [silence] in the center of your screen, speaker of the house of representatives. [silence] now at this moment david britney

in washington. -- david brinkley in washington. [silence] >> we are still in the rotunda of the capitol, which is now close to the public. members of congress, families, and staff members are passing through for the last time. the group of them have just been greeted by speaker mccormick standing to the side. mr. mccormick there, that tall man in the center.

the last figure we had from the capitol police was 250,000 people passed through the rotunda yesterday afternoon, last night, all of last night, and this morning until the door were closed about 45 minutes ago. at the time they were closed some thousands, we have heard as many as 50 but we are not short,

some thousands were still waiting in line even though they had been told that it was most unlikely there would be time for them to pass through. the schedule now calls for mrs. kennedy, her brother, the attorney general to be here at 1030 and to begin the procession from year to the white house to the cathedral. that is representative alec on the right, republican leader in the house along with hale boggs, carl of bridge, speaker mccormick. only members of congress, their staff members, families are allowed into the rotunda now.

>> as you know, by constitutional amendment house speaker mccormack is now next in line to succession of the presidency, the speaker of the house. after him, senator carl hayden of arizona.

[silence] >> that line of succession was set up during the truman administration when for the first time in a long time we had no vice-president. secretary of state then was next in line. not appointed, but elected. should succeed to the presidency. the speaker of the house is, of course, elected first to congress and then elected by the house to be speaker. the president pro tem of the senate is a senior member of the majority party and is not

elected except in a formality. it is always the senior member of the majority party. the one who has been their longest. fifty-one years. this is the case on. now arriving at the capitol. the black course you now see, the eighth horse, the riderless horse is mrs. kennedy's personal horse. he was a gift to her from the government of pakistan after her visit their two years ago.

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the rotunda again is close to the public and has been since 9:00, 60 minutes ago. members of congress. members of the congressional staff, friends, family. the casing with their great horses awaits outside. as you can see, the black courses that we said was mrs. kennedy's frisky and seemingly rather nervous because he has not been trained as have

the army's horses to perform this kind of duty. he became a little skittish, as you may remember having seen yesterday at the sound of the drums and the site of the crowds whereas they gray horses came from arlington cemetery and have performed this duty before and are used to it. at the capitol. ray. >> at the foot of the capitol steps. in position.

within about two minutes mrs. kennedy having taken a position at the foot of the steps, the casket that appears, rendered by the coast guard band at the will of mrs. kennedy. old daughter of loveliness. slowly down the steps. this outfit has come to arrest, mrs. kennedy and the attorney general rule returned to their car. the staff and the military this is expected to take about 50 minutes. the crowd is very quiet this morning.

the doors to the capitol were closed at 9:00. ten to 15,000 people who were not able to go inside. it is estimated that in the profession, the 18 hours that the casket was on you some 180,000 people were able to view the casket. and now to robert evan. inside the rotunda now members of congress, members of the house of representatives, senators and their staff, families are going past the casket watch changed every 30

minutes. the watch changing now.

against the wall in the back of the rotunda, they had been seated. during the early hours of the morning the number of people on any given time. permitted.

those who wanted to come by. officials and members of congress and their families the only ones permitted into the rotunda. out of the people who waited in line less nine. they left because of the cold.

faugh -- the flowers, the coffi. now at the white house.

>> this is this scene at this moment. the white house waiting for mrs. kennedy. we are told mrs. john f. kennedy will come out that door in just a few moments. just across the driveway on the lawn. >> the choir of the u.s. naval academy for annapolis will sing three hands. accompanied by the attorney general, robert kennedy. shortly come out this door and drive to the capital. >> we have no and formation on whether mrs. kennedy will take john jr. in his motorcade to the rich and this morning and back to the white house. in the building in the white house.

>> inside the east room, president kennedy's, a fine dignitary. mrs. kennedy in the attorney general returning to the white house. the dignitaries, from the north portico, the solemn procession with a mass will be celebrated. >> it is our understanding as of this moment that mrs. kennedy, the attorney general, members of the family will proceed alone to the rotunda, this motorcade and then follow the casket back here to the white house by motorcade

and then be joined by president and mrs. johnson. >> saw her just a second ago. the president's secretary has just arrived.

large numbers of people have gathered across pennsylvania avenue, several thousands have been there since early this morning. >> that is this same car. that first car, the same one that was used yesterday.

the attorney general sir family, i believe. trying to identify some of the delegation. it is almost impossible from our distance. it will to give much closer is her that what rick mahler it --e house. we will see him. mrs. kennedy will be immediately behind. i don't know if our microphones are picking it up for you.

everything on pennsylvania avenue right now. almost a hushed silence. lafayette park. traffic is deep on that side of pennsylvania avenue has been diverted from the area at the moment with where. the far side of lafayette park. the treasury building in the corner. probably be a very quick run. the pace back will be set. lineup in the driveway that the white house ready to proceed to

the north portico. miles from the white house faugh >> a long line of people. incidentally this outside of pennsylvania avenue is being kept clear of the public. the traffic jam.

arlington summary -- cemetery. correspondence from around the world processed very quickly, but nevertheless there was a tremendous line of them taking the necessary passes on this day of national mourning. >> the attention is focused on the north portico. visiting dignitaries. the french president and the prime minister. hundreds of them began arriving yesterday. >> as you can see, everything

awaits. >> these are her final hours in public for at least 30 days. one of our white house correspondents reported last night, mrs. john f. kennedy probably will make her home near washington after the family and its private morning. >> a secret service agents, the white house guard just walked through the doors. assume that it was just a matter of moments. the state capital.

>> this is the capitol plaza. in waiting. the departure time for mere from the capitol plaza is 1030 according to the schedule. it may not be kept too strictly. in any case, is about seven minutes from that. we are back at the white house awaiting the appearance of mrs. kennedy and other members of the family to ride in limousines to the capitol and to accompany the casing back to the white house and then to the cathedral. here she is now.

[silence] >> that is the attorney general call robert kennedy coming in now. the dress for the funeral at the cathedral. the word was passed around rather late yesterday afternoon that this was to be the dress.

it was passed around and said it possible. many of the candid it's come as you see. that is mrs. smith, the president's sister getting into the front seat of that car. mrs. stephen smith, sargent shriver to the right. if i'm not mistaken.

the husband of misses kennedy's sister. on the back you can see the attorney general. the left-hand side. mrs. kennedy, senator and ted kennedy on the left. the first limousine. rolling out on to pennsylvania avenue now. several members of the immediate

family. >> that is pennsylvania avenue. in front of the white house. [inaudible conversations]

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>> i have something in this -- perhaps something additional may be said about the unbelievable crowds of people who pass through the rotunda of the capitol last night. as is usual there is little or no way to measure the edification to measure the identification of a president with the people, but perhaps there was in this capital city last night the closest that they have felt for him as evidenced in the thousands which formed an endless stream of humanity on

the streets down below the capitol plaza. ground slowly up to the great doors, to the solemn and dimly lighted rotunda and in the great dome of the capitol and then out again to disperse and still down capitol hill. and from what unbelievable distances people have come to pay their last respects today. striding into washington last night the traffic was heavy with automobiles bearing license plates from the most unlikely places, ohio, new jersey, new york. reaching to the midwest. did clear -- last night we stopped along the highway. the automobiles. younger people, college-age.

their attitude and demeanor here today and last night indicates that this is not a lark. they are not here for an outing. they came to be closer in his last hour to the president. ♪

this is the kennedy family. six minutes in front of the capital.

>> here they come. here they come. >> are we on the air?

>> in the first car, mrs. kennedy. two brothers. and at least one of the children , not absolutely certain at the moment.

turning in. as david has said, we don't know whether gender is being brought to this ceremony. but yesterday it was he who injected a note of poignancy in the office of stephen mccormack. he grew a little restless during the ceremony there in the rotunda of the capital.

and they need to came down the hall and into the office of house speaker mccormick. they're one of the members of the staff gave him a small american flag to play with. john jr. asked if he could have another one to take to his daddy. >> that is delaware avenue going up. the hill you see in the background is capitol hill. the capital at the moment out of sight to the right.

this is the president in front of the capitol, normally a parking lot. mrs. kennedy, her brother robert on her left and her brother edward honor right. the president's brother, i'm sorry.

the stamina of this woman to these last three in four days has been indescribable and certainly has touched the entire nation.

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>> the m which was played as the casket was born down the steps of the capitol, o god of loveliness. starting back down now. to the white house.

>> it was two years, ten months, five days ago we were here in washington. under a snowstorm it settled upon the city back and forth. inauguration day. the model, the government of the nation was new. the oldest president in the history of the nation was handing the mantle to the end as president. we heard some said he was apollo like. a row down this hill from this capital and down the seven new.

the cheers. you may remember on that day could not quite manage the top hat. he put it on one's, and he kept it on for a few seconds. is just no use. i cannot take it. carried, but finally disappeared altogether as the day of celebration and triumph wore on. now from the same capital where he took the oath of office and delivers his inaugural address john f. kennedy nellie's forever perhaps although he wrote down this hill on that day and triumph it may not be said that he rides to then the feet.

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