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>> the untold story of the teenagers and outlaws who hacked computers. and this is part of the 2013 notable book selections. the that the booktv.org. >> now on booktv, condoleezza rice serve as security advisor from 2009 until her beginning in 2005. this is about 50 minutes.

>> we are related because our fathers are first cousins and we were close both as children and as adults. connie and i have never visited our fathers in this way. by the time we did this, we went to college and i knew of her because the time had always come when someone would say, you know, this is a wonderful person to be associated with and i would think, oh, there goes my cousin again. [laughter] and i would get stopped outside a post office is and it was so interesting. and i would say i don't know

either, but she is important. [laughter] >> so it has been a pleasure to get to know each other better and we want to hear this particular faith and talk about the book "extrodinary, ordinary people: a memoir of family", which talks about our family and how they did the best that they could with what they had. it is such a wonderful tribute, a definite tribute to the parents that live beyond the extraordinary. and i think that we are extremely proud of the way the

book turned out. the thing is so moving that in going through your early life, you are showing that you lived in the last chapter of that jim crow era. and it was important for you to share that with the world. and the so why was this important to write the book? >> well, i always wanted to write and i am still writing. the secretary of state's memoirs over the last eight years and i am often asked the question, how did you get to be who you are. and i sat in order to know, you had to know my father and mother, john and angelena rice. my parents were in many ways wonderful people. my mom was a high school

teacher, one for for students was willie mays, who she taught at high school. and she said song, son, you are going to be a ballplayer. and she taught high school and she was an elegant lady and gloves to bring the arts to the students, particularly students in this very poor high school that she taught him. they had operettas and so she was a very eloquent lady. but she was a normal person, a schoolteacher. my father was also a presbyterian minister and he was an athlete and a big sports fan and my parents had a deal and i

know that your name and my name were almost the same. my parents had a deal. had i been born a boy, i was going to be named john. and my father had already bought the football for john, he was going to be a linebacker. and my mother chose a name, condoleezza, which comes from a musical. but my parents were in that way ordinary. i doubt they made more than $60,000 between them their entire lives, but there was no opportunity that i didn't have. and the extraordinary part comes from the circumstances and i was born in 1954, i will be 56 next month.

i didn't move until denver until i was 12 years old. you couldn't go to a restaurant or stayed in a hotel, not at that time and the way you can now. and it was a little middle-class community and we might not have been able to have hammered at the same place for some kids, but we could try to learn and grow and be president of the united states. and that is the thing about birmingham come you could certainly control your response to things. >> that is extraordinary. being an african-american, and meant that you had to have an extraordinary capacity for

tolerance. and the lessons for that today, i feel like it is still being taught even now. and we want to rise above it without getting better, and that is what our family taught us. how to transcend this and that is why we are doing the best we can. our great grandparents were born slaves. we share great grand parents. they were 12 and 13 and we are now for generations out of slavery. but who has gone left behind? because i know you and i share a passion for kids throughout the bottom and i am so glad that now that you are at the white house you can get that heavy lifting done. >> first of all, if you don't

consider yourself a victim, and if you're not one to give into bitterness, and if you really do believe as my parents and your parents taught us, you might have to be twice as good, and they said that, by the way. and it was a given. and then you can overcome whatever is in front of you. but we were very fortunate. we had parents who were there for us. we had teachers who were there for us. we grew up in communities where our parents were educated and knew how to deliver on that message. and for them and we are doing something very wrong at that

time. and your grand uncle, it's a particularly interesting case. his name is john wesley rice sr.. he is a sharecropper son and he worked others land and in utah. when john wesley rice sr. was about 19 years old, he decided that he would like to get book learning and college under his belt. so he asked people how a colored man could get educated and they told him about tuscaloosa, so he saved up and he went off to college in his first year went great. and then after his first year, they said, how are you going to

pay for your second year. he said i'm out of cotton. and they said, how are you going to pay for a? is your out of a luck. and he said will have a these other boys pay for it. and they said that he is part of presbyterian studies and there is a scholarship. my grandfather said that is what i want to do. so my family has been presbyterians and in college ever since. [laughter] so they were very industrious as far as their path to education.

and my father was entirely instrumental at the beginning. connie mentioned the horrors of the south. and it was the most segregated big city in america. it was 1952, my parents were actually not married at this time. so they went to get registered to vote. and in those days you had protesters. and this person would ask questions and he passed if you pass the question come you could register. so my mother who is fair skinned and long hair, she said what job you have and she said that she was a schoolteacher. and she said then you probably know if the president of the united states was. she said oh, yes, george washington.

and they said it's fine, you go register for it and they looked at my father, a big and imposing man, six 2'", and they said my father, how many beads are in that jar. and there were hundreds of beads mentor. and so my father said you failed the test and he was very unhappy, he ran back and was talking to frank hunter was an old man in his church and he said, oh, reverend thomas we had to get registered. there's a clerk down there, she's a republican issue trying to build the republican party. and she will register anyone who will say that they are a republican. and now you didn't register by party, but i suspect that this woman was telling her to go register republican. so he registered republican was republican the rest of his life. a very proud one. but he came through it because that was waged for him to get his vote. >> my grandmother talked about

it as well when goldwater ran for president. and one of the most moving parts of the book that really came through loud and clear what she felt the fear that it wasn't just watching it on television. and so it was the first terrorism and it was ace state-sponsored terrorism of this. and you have direct contact with that. and it is from this and see if you've focus on not entitled today. >> whether it is the clan or the

way that gangs terrorized a community or a terrorism that we see that we experienced on september 11 and continue with. they want not just to fight, they want to terrorize to the point that they can control. and, in fact, they would like to send a message, don't cost us. and indeed, that is what was going on in birmingham in 1962 and 1963. before then birmingham had been segregated and there were incidents when time to time things came out. but one thing i wanted to show in the book was that you go to school and church and you have your pr lessons of your ballet lessons and it's not as if segregation in truth every waking moment of every day. people do lead normal lives. but in 1962 and 1963, that was

all shattered and birmingham have a lot of bombs that were going off in communities. and we knew that a bomb had gone off and birmingham. and my father turned the car around and said where you're going and he said, he said i'm going to the police and she said why are? are probably the ones that set it off. because there was no such thing as protection for black families from the authorities in birmingham. eugene bull connor was the fist of segregation and he wanted to enforce it by whatever means necessary. and so he reached a culmination

in september of 1963 after a violent summer of water hoses and marches and etc. and doctor king had realized that he wanted to do something and there was a children's march and on september of 1963, we have had just gone to church at her father's church. and again, everyone assumed that it was an outer community, but it had been two hours away. pretty soon they said that they would bombs the sixth st. church and therefore liberals have been killed in the basement getting ready for sunday school and a little while later they said the names. and suddenly we realized that a

little girl, denise mcnair, a girl that i had known all my life. there's a picture my father giving her her kindergarten certificate. these four little girls had been killed by these terrorists. i remember thinking that people must have a lot of hatred to kill four little girls. and my dad then sat on the porch that entire evening in the september heat with a shotgun on his lap and the next day they organize a neighborhood watch and they went to school with their guns. and they would buy her things into the air. they never actually shot anyone. but they would have if someone had come into the community like that.

>> i remember the bombing made headlines and we thought, what kind of country kills little girls. and that was just such a terrible crime. and the way that we have this with the determination to keep the community together because you talk about so many rights and we had to have a lot of allies in the civil rights revolution. and so one of the things that struck me about the book was how you tied together those alliances. there were cross racial, cross class alliances. and we marched together to get birmingham into the 20th century. and so today we have framed this and we want to get your thoughts.

>> i think particularly when it comes to issues of race, we have to be very careful in the united states and how we go around titles like you are a racist or lines like that. and it's such a deep set of wounds. we have a birth defect called slavery. and it is a wound that is so deep that the worst thing you can say to someone is that you are a racist. the volume has gone awfully high about race these days. and we would do well to turn down the volume, stuck that, give each other the benefit of the doubt, and to try to work again on the common problems that are affecting us all. i don't care what color you are. they affect us all. and the interesting thing about

segregation is that the most dramatically affects black people and also why people in a negative way. it took birmingham such a long time. they're still trying to overcome a lot of the scars, and being known as the most racist city in the united states. it finally has overcome some of the impetus. and the fact is that racism had a very negative effect on the white community as well. and there were a few fights that were trying to break out of it. my father had a mentor who is a guidance counselor for the schools in alabama in birmingham and my father said, my wife has

this terrible infection, can you recommend a doctor. he recommended a white doctor for the first time we showed up, i was seven years old. we went in in the waiting room for blacks was this horrible kind of area, steps straight up, and so after he saw my mother at 5:00 o'clock that afternoon, he said now, the next time you bring in angelina, bring her after 5:00 o'clock. as we came after 5:00 o'clock, and his patient population was gone. so we were able to set up in the front waiting room in the leather chairs and the whole thing. and pretty soon over time, doctor carmichael integrated his own waiting room. because i think for him, it was

humiliating for him to have to treat someone like my father that way because of race. so racism and segregation hurt not just the black community, but it also hurt the white community. and today we know that joblessness and homelessness and gang violence and others. we know that poor schools are not preparing kids so that the united states and america is becoming more fearful. this doesn't just hurt black kids caught in poverty or hispanic kids caught in poverty, but it hurts us all. so maybe one thing we can learn from that time is that it's not really a matter of charity, but reaching out and it is essential

to our national security. >> and is there -- we talk about this and you and i both know that we are constantly compensating and you have to compensate for color and language barriers as well. and we just take it for granted. but we haven't done our homework, that we're were going to gloss over it and pretend that we have those in that we have a lot of baggage. there's a lot of work to be done. we need to stop doing a lot of drive-by labeling and taking a look at our different roles in

history. in one of the questions i had was your dad and my dad to ride around and for the families that couldn't get it together, they would go around to the families that were not quite holding it together. and we disintegrated when we left and moved up and out, moving on up, that kind of fell apart. >> every bad system has some things that are not so bad about it. in the black community have a lot of integrity and the middle class in birmingham live not too far from the working classes and the underclasses. my father had a youth fellowship group. and he would have dances among the baptists.

his youth fellowship was very popular. but behind the church there was a village. and he would bring the kids in the village and in many of them said that he would go door-to-door, like my grandfather did, he would go door-to-door and saving your child is smart and she should go to college and i have a scholarship for her at tux geeky or i have a scholarship for her at stillman. not even do you want your child to go to college, to sort of insisting. and so my father had a very middle-class church which was not always popular. and one thing i tell the story about, my father had a picnic for these kids and unfortunately some of the kids were out in one of the the eldest the eldest said, oh reverend, we told you they were ready to be with us.

but for our fathers, there were no barriers when it came to making sure that kids were educated and families were taken care of. but the people who were left with poverty in this way, they were the most damage in our community. and how we get that back now is one child at a time. i have parents and teachers. i don't care for the community leader, every child us to somehow have an adult that is advocating for them. >> absolutely. i can't let you off the stage without talking about stokely carmichael. >> okay, absolutely.

>> stokely carmichael out of the late 60s and early 70s, he was the leader of the student nonviolent coordinating committee and he was one of the original black power people and my dad, who was a conservative republican presbyterian minister invited him to speak in 1966 much to this dismay of the power elite, and my dad really was attracted in a funny way and i try to understand why that is. because he was a conservative man and he loved the united states of america and i always felt bad he admired the pride and dignity with which these radicals confronted things,

rather than taking this as the quietness. he was not, for instance, going to march 1962 and 1963. i remember hearing my parents talking in the living room and my father said they want us to go out there and be nonviolent. but if somebody comes up after me with the billy club, i'm going to try to kill him and then my daughter will be in a lot worse shape. so i think he was attracted to people like stokely. the one i was all the talk about than senator obama, i thought, well they shouldn't know about some of the individuals that are dinnertable. [laughter] >> thank you. [applause]

[inaudible question] speed up the microphone should be on. if you could just remember for the microphone, we would appreciate it. [inaudible conversations] >> hello, my name is pastor charles patrick and i was born in birmingham alabama before you. and what you said, sharing the experience of what happened is absolutely true. my dad experienced the same thing my dad was almost run out of town and if he had not had, he possibly would have been killed.

but thank you so much and god bless you. it encouraged me. because for a long time, i harbored a lot of the anger that my dad went through when he was beaten and all that. i am familiar with that area and my mom went to tuskegee and congratulations. i'm excited about your book and we hope to talk with you sometime soon. >> thank you so much. >> my question is, who is your hero when you grew up? who is your hero? >> that is a good question. you know, i think that for all of us there were several. my family -- we love the kennedys and beloved president john f. kennedy and we adored bobby kennedy. i remember very well going to the university of alabama and

going to hear bobby kennedy and just being completely taken with them and totally devastated and he was assassinated here in los angeles. so they were huge and another person that i talked about in the book, the individual who was the local leader in birmingham who really brought about race consciousness, founded the early grades, had to leave and go to cincinnati because he was under threat and he has never really gotten his due compared to the great national leaders of all that he did. and he was a family friend and also such a great person and hero. >> thank you. >> hello, like you i grew up in

florida and a lot of my friends from alabama say that's not the real south. but i grew up in an all-white community most of my life, but but i never experience a lot of racism until i moved to northern florida and actually once i moved back here, letting go and not harboring resentment. what would be some of the things he could encourage the younger kids today to hold on and remember and help them to transcend the resentment. because i had to learn to let it go and to move past it and not use it as a crutch and next excuse. >> that's a really good question. my parents grew up in birmingham

and if you are in a totally segregated school, pencils or black on the teachers are black and the students are black. when the teacher said to you that that is just not good enough, there wasn't any racial overtones. people could be tough in terms of insisting on achievement and excellence without racial overtones of somehow they are being racism. one of the most interesting things since i was at stanford, there is a subtle situation that could send when people see black students. and all of a sudden they've had a tough time and maybe i shouldn't think about that. and i tell you that it's related

in the book and so i will relate it to you. i went to my first bible ceremony as provost in 1994. and at stanford in this group of 300 phi beta kappa individuals, there was one student. and i thought that this was odd. so i started looking at it and thinking about it. and we formed partners and academic excellence and he asked black graduate students meet with black freshmen. and the students would say how did you get a grade a bonus paper. low expectations and by the time the students were getting to the tough classes in their junior or senior year, they were not prepared for tough judgments. and so it's a sometimes racism shows itself in very unexpected

ways. and it shows itself in just not holding that person is quite equal to yourself, but wanting the best for them and wanting to help them and basically patronizing them. and i think that one of the deepest problems we have in schools right now is that we are not expecting enough of every child. and kids read it and they know when you don't expect much of it and they underperform. so one of my answers to kids that are feeling this bitterness and anger is put it aside. it is their problem and not your problem. and if you let it become your problem, then you are going to think of yourself as a victim in the next thing you will do is be aggrieved. and by the way, between the brother of agreement is entitlement. you'll me and i don't have to work for it and now you're on

the way to nowhere. and there were plenty of people who have agreed mends and that sense of entitlement and you still won't have a job. and so i truly believe that our kids have to find a way to be tougher with people who underestimate them. and those are the most racist people in the world.with peopleo underestimate them. and those are the most racist people in the world. >> hello, my name is lynn. your book talks about getting every kind of educational opportunity and had a very busy childhood. so were there ever times when you just didn't want to get up in the morning and if so, what was the motivation, the extraordinary motivation to get out of bed and to do all of

that? including your internal motivation. >> her parents were pretty good at saying, well, you are pretty good at wanting to take skating lessons. [applause] >> i was pretty self-motivated. i was very bad at it. i really was. i am 5 feet 8 inches, i have the wrong feet for her. when i pick up a tennis racket, i said why did you not put a tennis racket in my hand instead of skates on my feet, and he said you were the one who wanted to skate. i don't like getting up at 438 shannon and i was a natural pianist. it wasn't that hard for me. but i will tell you when i was about 10 years old and i have been playing since i was three,

i could read music before i could read them when i was 10 years old i wanted to quit. and i said i want to quit piano. and she said that you're not old enough or good enough to make that decision. [laughter] and years later when i was playing with yo-yo ma, i was really glad that she did let me quit. and so part of the self-motivation and part of it was parents pushing a little bit insane, you're the one who wanted to do this. and some of it was that we didn't want to disappoint her parents. we knew how much they were putting into us. so i just didn't want to disappoint them either. >> thank you for joining us. i was born and raised in washington dc and a graduate of notre dame. >> you've had a little work today i see.

[applause] >> the question actually is political in nature. but i am interested, very interested in what you think obama is doing really well. there's a long list, but what you think he is doing really well and more importantly what you think he should be doing even better. >> like i said when i left government. and i feel pretty strongly about this. but when you are in office, it's a lot harder than when you're sitting out here. and it's really hard when people are tripping on you from the outside. anything, why didn't you do that when you were in here. because it's a lot easier out there. and so president bush said i felt that i owed the president and others my silence as i disagree with something that they are doing and i will tell them that i know them all well

enough that if there's something i would like to say, i will call up and say it, in particular bob gates and others. and i think that we are very tough on our presidents. i will make two separate statements. one about the presidents and gentlemen one about our politics in general. and i think that we are tough on our presidents. the day that they are inaugurated, they are the smartest and most amazing human beings that we have seen. a year later, how did we ever elect him. and i have watched this happen over and over again. it's the loneliest job in the world. it doesn't get tougher than being president of the united states. and i do think that the people we elect, they have stood for office for the right reasons and maritime to do the right things. sometimes i disagree. sometimes i agree. but i will tell you something that is going on quite apart from the administration.

and that is that what you are seeing in these grassroots movements and i will tell you this. and what people are saying the conversation washington and the conversation country is not the same conversation. and they are saying it across the board to washington dc. and i frankly think that that is a healthy development. because what concerns me about the united states at this point is that we have lost our confidence and we have lost our optimism as a people. americans are the most optimistic people on the face of the earth. trust me, i have been across the face of the earth and we're the most optimistic people. but only when we are confident.

and we have deficits warring and we can't get joblessness and we can't get immigration reform so we are battling each other and we are not very confident. and i think that that is really what people are saying for this president. >> thank you. i live here in the south-central area. i was just wondering if when you were a kid, did you really know that you would be the state when he grew up and have a lot of people be a part of that? >> thank you for asking that question. >> to do is have the state of mind that you're going to do better that you than that you're going to make something out of your life and you are inspiring young black women like me to do

more? >> what's your name? [inaudible] >> i have no had no idea that i was going to end up as secretary of state. >> how old are you? >> i was 16 years old. and i was quick to be a great concert pianist and i have studied and i could read music and i was going to be a great concert pianist. and then i wrote to the aspen music music festival school, those who could play from side, and i thought, i am about to end up to teach them to play at carnegie hall. so i went home and i have the following conversation with my

parents. if you find yourself in this position, mom and dad, i'm changing my major. >> were you changing your major to? >> i don't know. >> you don't know what you want to do with your life? >> welcome it's my life. >> well, it's our money, find a major. and i tried english literature, i hated it, i tried state and local government. my little project was to interview the city water manager of denver. and i thought, that's not it. the single most boring man. [applause] >> and then i wondered into an international politics class and he taught me about the soviet union and all of a sudden i knew what i wanted to do. and i went home and said that i wanted to be a soviet specialist. fortunately they didn't say what is a nice black girl from birmingham talking about being a

soviet specialist, nato said go for it. so there are a couple of important lessons for young folks. no one is so confident that your age or even older that they are sure they will be greater turnout turn out to be terrific with what they do. and when people are that confident, there is something wrong with them. [laughter] and second of all, you need to find what you are passionate about. and you have a lot of time to find out. so go to school, take some

classes, try some things that are easy for you or hard for you, learn to write if you're good at writing, take some math. and you will find what it is that really interests you. >> i'm not sure that you it will you want to do. and so my point is to take your time and don't plan every step. try to get good at what you do. and then when you've done that, and then when you are doing something great, you will realize that it came because he found something that you're passionate about. and by the way, you may not be something that people would look at you and say that that is what she should do. there is no earthly reason that i could not have been a soviet specialist in birmingham alabama. okay. >> thank you. >> you're welcome.

>> are there any more questions? [inaudible conversations] >> hello, i am hannah and my question is, are you going to plan to run for office again? [laughter] >> no, actually was never even in my high school student council. and i did not ever run for anything. i loved public service and i'm very involved in k-12 education and with the boys and girls clubs of america. i probably will get more involved and that is all public

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