>> my german shepherd leans toward the tea party. last night started ecumenical family. now, i don't think i'm going to engage in any final word. i just want to express my appreciation again to everyone here for participating in this, particularly my colleagues in government on this podium and right there in the front row who has made such as funding contributions to america's well-being, all of which illustrates known as investment to vote. there's no special geniuses in charge. ability is distributed generous in our country and we have top-notch elite capable of moving from generation to generation. what we have to do is be alert to the fact the world has become infinitely more complex and

sloganeering about our values and easy assumptions about not american exceptionalism, that americans universalism or at least historically premature and probably not attainable in the lifespan if anyone in this room. this is going to be named for nothing more complex, more dangerous world in which, sent, a sense of responsibility could not deliver planing well-prepared to leave and find a more informed public about the world of america's intelligent conduct. to take a specific note and i'm not, another panelist at a test about the need for a deliberately moderated american carini and the combination. if we don't get that, there's a real danger in their preaching.

kingly gadget of the public is not well informed about the complexities and necessities of intelligent accommodation if the u.s. congress itself has not even sufficient to realize that meddling now, with additional unilateral actions can be highly negative furniture is. this ideal aspirations we have to cope with and are far more intelligent constituents being is the point of departure for in america that can thrive in this complex world in which it will still be the preeminent society, but certainly not the hegemonic society. >> thank you to all members of both a loss and especially dr. zbigniew brzezinski. [applause]

>> let me first of all they charros gati, not only for writing this book, but putting together this panel. i think all the panelists on the spin on the previous panel. it was truly a treat to not only hear dr. brzezinski, but the reminisces of those who work with them in their insights and perspectives. the students admission importance of big ideas, the importance of strategic thinking, the importance of history, many are issues that are often in short supply in the ways in which we think about our politics and national security were amply underscored. it's also important is it that about many historical issues

here, thinking about this the two underscore the importance of looking back at the erez that dr. brzezinski and those who work within that presents for sdk and for many. i'm glad we have the opportunity to hear from this panel and i would like to invite everybody to a reception after they said we can continue the conversation. thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations]

>> where you're at national press club with bob drury and tom clavin, talking about the poor, their new book. >> guest: the only thing you have to know about raincloud. he is the only american indian to ever win a war, not a battle, you were against the united states. president andrew johnson, general of the army ulysses s. grant, checkout the western army after two years. we'll keep you anything you want. that says it all. >> tell us more. >> red cloud was somebody nobody knows today because we don't

know about american indians at the 1800s. a lot of what this book is about is not the fighting that went on, but what was life like in 1840, 1850, 1860, red clauss, crazy worst, sitting bill. when they were fighting each other, fighting other tribes. the excitement about what the great plains were like the early 1800s. >> at one point, raincloud, he would never call it an empire in our lexicon, he was one fifth of the contiguous united states. he controlled from canada down to the colorado, was not in arizona, new mexico border east of minnesota to salt lake. so we like to think it's a big, epic scope about the manifest

destiny and white people living in an inevitable clash of raincloud's entire emanation empire of the united states. >> affixed to question if he was so victorious and had that much land what happened? how did they lose? >> well, they lost because he fought the battle. he won the war, signed the peace treaty. he lives up to it. you know the rest. a few years later church pastor took over the black hills. by that time, he was an older man by then. he couldn't fight anymore. he actually visited washington d.c. to visit president reagan. he basically said, we can't defeat these guys. they're stronger than we are. a great saying that he did is the white man made a promise. he kept only one. promise to take my land and he took it.

that sums up what happened to raincloud and dissemination. [inaudible] >> guest: tom and i., i love reading, we read about ordinary men who rise to extraordinary circumstances. the part of everything that this is our first collaboration. i've written about ordinary sailors, ordinary marines, ordinary earning security card. we were down in quantico a few years back about three years back now. we were receiving some award and a friend of ours who is an official during a terry historian happened to say, he wasn't pitching about. i was like wait a minute, there's the seminole, turquoise,

custer's last stand. lots of indians won battles. he said no, he didn't win a battle. he won a war. i look inside the have to look into this. that's a shame about. >> it took a few years, but the sub title talks about the untold story of red cloud. i'm not saying no is heard of red clad paper u.s. 10 people, night of the most say i don't know the red cloud is community is arguably the most significant, certainly the most successful american indian in the 1800s. ..

>> all right, thank you. >> in mayor 1%, kari lydersen argues that rahm emanuel represents the wealthy and awful and has demonstrated an inability to empathize with the working class and the poor. next, a panel discussion about the book. it's about an hour and a half. [applause] >> well, thanks so much to haymarket for inviting me to do this project, and they've been so wonderful to work with, and thanks to haymarket brew erie r