yet years after willard's death, he believes both he and wichita have lost something significant. willard had enormous resources and they could've taken in egypt have, noting that garvey purposely chose to focus on the minutia of local government. the former mayor can still go willard's voice that tells me so depressed him and other candidates to sign no tax pledges and how he always, always spoke up about his mistrust of government and was a passionate defender of the freedom. and wichita he was a good citizen, bob said. and i think of something we need to take away. in wichita, the name garvey is brandished on buildings, athletic facilities and a host of educational facilities and programs. willard garvey to the service above self model too hard and whether you agreed or disagreed with him, i think there's a lesson in there all for us. take you for your opportunities become and thank you for the interest in this book. [applause]

>> don't waive those fingers. does anybody have any questions backs don't waive those fingers at me. [laughter] no questions? spent i think he did an excellent job. >> thank you. [applause] >> there's a question here, maura. >> my question was, what was the best story you didn't print? [inaudible] spent i don't know. the best story i didn't print. i think i got the good ones in there. i think i got it done. sorry. that's a good question though. anyone else?

[inaudible] >> know. i lost enough of my life and have to start dying my hair. know, but it was really fun to be a part. i heard ari today can we talked about preserving the voices of elders, and that is really, really important and i was so happy i got to do that. you know, it's your history. it's a part of what you grew up with. it was really an honor to do. [applause] >> booktv is on facebook. like us to interact with the booktv guests and viewers. watch it is and get up-to-date information on events.

facebook.com/booktv. >> there are two republican parties right now. that is the republican party in washington, d.c. it is such, especially the small pockets of the company is such an ideologically driven party that does not allow a variety of views. i'm not talking about liberal views and conservative views. i'm talking about the variety of views that we had been like for instance, the heritage foundation. heritage was about education reform and getting a lot of different conservatives together. and they would fight like heck about the best way forward on education reform. the best way forward on tax reform. jack kemp would have horrible fights come in, with bill graham and others and then they would come together and they would come up with a tax reform plan. they would be constant battles on the budget.

there were a lot of different ways forward and the conservatives we believed even into the '90s come in 1994, we always talked about alleges the laboratory of ideas. you talked about the market place of ideas. we always talked about three -- the free market place of ideas. would close the doors, we did go down stores, we would debate nonstop among ourselves until he came up with the best plan for reform to move forward. that's just not the case anymore. in washington, d.c., if you get off the path a little bit to the right or a little bit to the left, the there's an ideological witch hunt that people suggest you are insufficiently conservative and insufficient republican. that's the easy part. that's the 90% party. that's a record low party. you go outside of this city, that i love and that i love living in and i've loved working in, but politically go outside

of the city and the republican party is a pretty vibrant party. we control 60% of the governors seats. we can control them in geordie of the state houses. we can control the majority of the state senate seats of the state house seats. i mean come you know, look what chris christie did in new jersey. look what is doing in wisconsin. these are people who are not just thriving in the deep south. you can look, and i talk about this, we have been trapped, the party of the deep south. basic all the places where i lived, that's for republicans do well, florida, mississippi, alabama, georgia. we kick ass there, okay? but if you live in new england, chances are pretty good you are being represented by democrats. >> we have started to break out of that sort of deep south

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correspond for the guarding of in the times newspaper. now we write books that would make documentary films in that part of the world. and we've been passing through mumbai two days before the attacks happened in 2008 when the whole city was basically held hostage. and unlike 9/11 were lots of great books were promulgated like leaning tower and books from other great writers, mumbai didn't see the books that really summed up the tear. and kathy and i were determined to do justice to what happened in 2008 and put together what we hope is a tribute to the heroes of mumbai and an explanation for what that kind of terror really means. >> so did you return while the speech was going on or did you come back later? how did you cover this? >> we, basically we always wait until the story has died down. we are the last people to the story. so we came back a long time

after to interview people. went to the hotel and went to pakistan, and also to the agency's there and also to the organization the family attack. and the ideas of coming up with stories, you wait for the dust to settle and you get more information because less is going on that we want to get to the bottom of why the attack had been planned, the reason for, what they were trying to achieve and also to get to the human stories. >> what were some of the key findings? >> key findings were that, like many recent terrorist attacks like 9/11 and 77 in the uk, there were lots of missed opportunities to intervene before the attack happened, lots of warnings. a hotel was one on several occasions that they have been targeted, the intention of

holding the hotel and other key locations in mumbai. the place in mumbai tried to impose a duty measures but the hotel was and -- and also intelligence agency, they brushed up the cover as it is too crazy an idea. attackers launching themselves onto the streets of mumbai and holding the city for ransom is just to kind of big, crazy. it's not going to happen. and sadly, they were wrong. it did happen. >> did you come to any conclusions about preventative measures or anything that could help, i guess determined ahead of time something is going to happen this? >> it's hard to do that kind of crystal ball gazing. the one thing you can be certain is that is the reason we're particularlwe areparticularly i. it's still a powder keg, a hot border between india and pakistan, between the indian

nations. and, of course, with afghanistan with the u.s. forces withdrawing there's a power vacuum there so our interest allies in the region. one thing about this book, it's also but extraordinary human story and you know, for us having worked in the region for 18, 20 years. we're interested not in an objective -- telling real stories from the inside it to all of these people, 90% of them are pakistani and indian contributors who we hope that we have drawn realize, and they overcame extreme danger and extreme fear. many of them very poorly paid waged employees for grand hotels like the taj. it would've been absent massacre. for us is one of the great lessons that the most humble as people overcame. >> was anything about this over kashmir that played a part in anything? >> part in anything? >> i think on it that it is.

we do a lot of work in kashmir. we begin there at the height of the insurgency. and the endless dispute over the contested state provides very often the motor. so, for example, the group that mastermind of the attacks on mumbai, they were conceived of, funded by the pakistani intelligence in the 1990s, specifically to make india kashmir believe. the idea was to send over an army of jihad is to trigger a war in kashmir. they then subsequent after 9/11 and element within the group wanted to be more like al qaeda outfit, attacking american targets, pro-western jews, not simply kashmir's. that's why mumbai -- >> to grab the headlines. because kashmir is, everybody in south asia is affected by kashmir. there was a big dispute within the organization, that they had

to get back the news agenda from al qaeda that was getting headlines and they lost out. that was a big reason behind why it was executed. >> nearly everything that is one of the most poorly reported stories in the west. it's quite shocking. when you come back to it, the continuing, grinding human rights abuses was completely outstrip those in chile would've found people if they became firmly within. there are more people, there are three times the number of disappeared in kashmir than ever disappeared in chile. you're talking upwards of eight to 10,000 people who vanished, then aged in the secure services. there were 3500 corpses, none of which is death couldn't be prescribed to anyone agency. you feel that lack of humility is such a huge issue, is part of what lies behind a tax like these. and so that's something that we

have tried to write about from within the establishment of from the perspective of -- [inaudible] >> so what originally sparked her interest in this area of the world? >> wow. >> twenty years, we are based for the sunday times and in "the guardian," and we just love it out there. it's a great part of the world. so much is happening in both countries, pakistan and 80. we love working there equally. we just want to continue working out there. >> i mean, asia is particularly like india. it is retreating itself everyday, although it has thousands of years of history. ..

to crossed that out. it has been 20 years of present giving throughout. collaborative lead to have the opportunity to do. >> have you lined up your next project yet? >> yes. >> it is a secret. >> give him a slight. >> we are going to return to the same