>> indeed this was foreshadowed. it is an assessment conducted by the oecd in 24 countries so we are being compared to the country's you see in yellow. russia's data will come in next year and will be added in and there will be another round of countries that will be added to this database, looking at this every ten years. this first report is a baseline to see how we are doing. it has a lot of sample in it. you can see how many hundreds of thousands are in the database. it is looking at skills in three domains, literacy, numerous sea and problem-solving in a technology rich environment, it also has some of what we call

employability skills, cooperation, teamwork, persistence kind of skills listed in the assessment as well. in the u.s. the first wave of samples was 5,000. it is nationally representative but not large enough to drill down into some of the smaller subgroups you may be interested in but we have another way of being collected by the department of education so we see they are adding young people, unemployed adults, older adults and incarcerated individuals so our sample by 2016 will be double and will have enough sample size to drill down into some of the sub groups. what does it tells us? fema gave us the bad news first. i am glad i didn't go first. it is depressing. we didn't do well. we performed poorly in all three domains, literacy, numerous sea

and problem-solving, well below the national average, we have larger than average low-skilled population which is the topic we are talking about today and we have a smaller than average high skilled population, not looking good on either end. this is a little fuzzy from far away but the highest red arrows on both sides are the international average and the lower red arrows on both sides are the u.s. performance so that is what you need to know. we are well below average illiteracy which is on the left and numerous sea on the right. korea, japan, finland scored high, we are weighed down with some of the low performers which is not happy news. large low-skilled as i said, we have more proportionately and

very large number because we are large country large numbers of low-skilled adults. this is particularly troubling because it shows that our young populations are not outpacing our older populations, those of us and a certain age. i like that expression. we start at the bottom of the screen and read up. you see that in korea the older cohorts and this is only going up to age 65 in this first round, the older cohorts' scored very low. thank you. the younger cohorts scored very high. going up among our competitors you can see that in the u.s. our older cohorts and younger cohorts are close together and the gap is not large. are younger cohorts are not

breaking out and really overtaking our older cohorts and that is a problem we will be living with for a long time because they have their whole work life ahead of them. our office commissioned a special report from the oecd to really look at the low-skilled adults and the united states and give us some idea who is in that population and this is what we found. we have a lot of young people as i said, a lot of immigrants, a lot of the low skills are men. something you are probably already familiar with. you are already familiar i am sure with the connection between literacy and health. a lot of low-skilled are not reporting excellent health and they may be employed but are earning low wages. these are the recommendations from the oecd report to the u.s.. looking at a strong performers

in our -- international, what should u.s. be doing about this? we are taking it to heart and it echoes the things we have been talking about. really tackles that inequality and children coming out of high school without the skills they need, improving assets -- access to college options and keeping those options open through the lifetime, also building awareness which is where we need your help, building awareness of the connection of this challenge to all the other issues in your communities. i am going to turn it back to adrian for what the administration is doing. >> heidi just delivered some information when we were faced with the result we thought about what can we do as we think about addressing this issue of low-skilled adults in the united states in particular. i apologize that some of these

slides are cut off but at the top of the skills are everybody's business. over the past two months we held five regional engagement sessions where we presented the fields and when i said a field we have been having conversations with leaders in workforce from the unions, education, philanthropy, adult literacy providers, folks in community college, the entire spectrum to get feedback on the things we might be able to do to tackle this issue and we have 36 million low-skilled adults in the united states and holding additional conversations with targeted groups and we are happy to be here too to share this information. part of it is awareness building and part is to help us develop as an administration the things we can do as part of the broader skills strategy you heard fema speaking about looking at those adults with low literacy, numeracy and problem-solving technology skills. we're working on a national

action plan to be released this spring, some of the things we're looking at is how to improve access, what other technologies we can use, where can we meet adult learners and their work, many are working, what are the ways we can think innovatively about improving quality and instruction or adult to education programs? how can we increase the effectiveness of these programs so eventually adults will be able to meet their goals whether that is getting a high school diploma, whether that is getting additional secondary education certificate going into training, moving along the career path way you heard many of us talk about here and we hope our national action plan really will reflect shared responsibility principal cause of not just the federal government but working across the partnerships in various sectors in the public and private sector. how are mayors making the

difference? we know many of you are already working with adult literacy council, commissions, you are working with providers in your community to tackle this issue and we thank you for that and applaud the work you are already doing. we know the u.s. commerce america adopted a resolution supporting work force investment act. the program which we administered over the adult education is sandwiched in the workforce investment act and we thank you for that support and that resolution and we have visited many places where we have been able to see on the ground work in various cities. finally, just want to say there are many things you can do, many things we would like to work with you moving forward, we have our information on our web site, time to 3 skills.org, a fairly easy link, if you are not doing

something with your adult education and literacy provider, working with them, allocating resources, creating a plan to tackle the issue we discussed and issues that have been discussed previously and thinking about ways you can leverage and online resources at the local level to help us address this issue of low-skilled adults, thank you. [applause] >> rather than as the discussion i an infringing on another committee's time. i want to recognize mayor chris coleman and mayor hancock. i think you for great speakers, great materials. thank you all for your attention. let's have this meeting adjourned. thank you all. [applause] ] [inaudible conversations]

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force meeting. let me thank all the mayors who are here today as well as those who are in the gallery to observe the education reform task force meetings. we have a pretty robust agenda and we are already behind schedule so we are going to jump right into this agenda. i am michael hancock, mayor of the next super bowl champions denver broncos. [laughter] >> i did that for mayor strickland over there in tacoma and california is with me. actually we want to welcome everyone to this meeting and thank all the fans here for the broncos and the seahawks.

it will be a great super bowl. i am so excited and honored we have the secretary of the education, arne duncan with us. i want to thank him for joining us today. secretary duncan has offered and agreed to to be part of this working meeting of the task force so we thank you for doing that but i don't know if you want to bring a greeting to the audience. we will get right to work. he will join us. he is not here yet but i know mayor bentsen will be here, vincent gray from d.c. and we will acknowledge him when he comes in. what we want today is twofold. we want to acknowledge the vision and direction of the committee, the task force, as we advance throughout this year.

i want to thank those mayors and their staff members who joined us on a conference call in november to establish the four focus areas or killers if you will of the task force for the upcoming year. and we want to discuss a plan of action that we want to pursue for this task force. one of the things we really discussed as the task force on the conference call was this should be a working task force. this will not be about presentations. we walked out of here wondering what is next. the idea is to walk out with a plan of action as a task force where all of us get an opportunity to participate and you will understand what i mean as we trevor's through this meeting. what i want to do is spend five minute laying out for you what was discussed over that conference call, what we agreed upon would be our guiding principles, four areas of execution for this coming year and move into the action areas.

i really want this to be a dialogue so forgive me for the first three to five minutes to make sure we are on the same page and we will go about the process of engaging all of us in a dialogue. i will ask you all first and foremost to sign in. for those who are members your name should be listed here. if you are not, if this is your first meeting, may be assigned as to be a member we will ask you to sign your name on the back page where there are spaces for mayors who are not listed. as important as your name is your primary contact with your education children issues in your office and your city and we need their contact information if you have it. i will begin that process passing the signup sheet around here as well. before i get started i want to acknowledge our staff member for the u.s. consulate mayor, thank you for your hard work. i want you to meet my director of children's affairs, lindsay

nil, who has worked very hard on this. i will go ahead and jump into the presentation so we can get to the point of conversation with regard to the task force. first of all, the purpose is to improve our agenda for the upcoming year. and solicit your feedback as we develop tools for improving policies, practices and programs with each other over time. i want to acknowledge four areas we decided we would focus on over the years. first and foremost, we have an overriding objective of not just closing the achievement gap as a task force but eliminating the achievement gap as an objective come as a goal. that is what these four guiding principles are meant for us to help us to address as we advance. i also want to share at the

outset that for many of us we are finding this around the country, the word or term reform is defined as the end game when it should be a means to a end game, we should be focused on and unfortunately the whole objective or goal of having our kids prepare to compete in the global economy is getting lost and smuggled in politics because we keep using the term reform as the end game. as we talk about the four areas i ask you to think about those two guiding principles or overriding principles, so the first area we want to focus on as a task force is to increase access to early childhood education, specifically pre k and preschool programs.

keep kids on track to graduate. i will go into each of these in just a moment and number 4, we must do a better job increasing access to post secondary path way is and that was just discussed in the last committee meeting to ensure our students finish with the skills they need to obtain a job. will for i go into each of these, we heard the task force members on the phone during the conference call that they felt technology should be a part of one of the four pillars we discussed and we agreed, the ideal is technology would be something that would be a common thread through each of these four killers as we advance them further and how we address the going forward. did you receive this

presentation by e-mail? let me go into some of these. our best chance will be eliminating the achievement gap, means we have to address it before it begins and we must address it early. as at task force we will increase access to high-quality pre k program for the kids to hit the school ready to learn. we will focus on programs for three to 5-year-olds as other committees are working under degrees. many of you in this room are working on pre k programming so we will be looking to you to share your best practices and promising efforts and policy but i want to acknowledge i know cincinnati and indianapolis, boston and san antonio have moved quickly into this arena focusing on early childhood education. the second pillars and i am moving through this quickly because i want to open this for

discussion, increase the number of high performing seats in our classroom. what we are getting to in this area is teacher effectiveness, school expansion and replication. we need to spend time tackling this issue because it is one of the best opportunities impacting the system with considerations for doing it as any kind of scale around the country or within our classrooms and the heart of this area is about teacher recruitment. it is about teacher retention, high-quality high performing principles in every school building and administrator. i am glad secretary duncan is here because he can share with us what he knows, what he has seen around the country with regards to this area but this is really getting to the heart of the challenge that we face with regards to school reform and working towards the goal of eliminating the achievement gap.

the third area is keeping students on track to graduate. this is about making sure our kids are hitting key benchmarks and staying on track to graduate from long-term success. that is what the national focus on grade level reading proficiency and increased focus on a stem subject is so important as we move forward and there are materials in this room or there will be regarding the reading, many of us participate as part of the anna casey foundation. the idea is we need to develop strategies to reach engage or keep engaged all our students but also to be engage our dropout, keep kids safe and engage in out of school hours as well as ensure that they are, we address the whole student and make sure their bellies are full for example and conversation with many mayors we talk about how we see our kids after school during summer months so we can

keep them focused. this is talking about after-school programs, summer camps, all the things we need to do to keep our kids focused, on track to graduate on time. the fourth and final pillars is to ensure our students have access to post secondary path ways. that says we are focusing on making sure our kids graduate on time but also they are prepared for the challenges of post secondary pathways, not just the four year degree but also career and technical programs, community college or military, going directly to work. we need to make sure we pay particular attention to first-generation students and make sure they are not spending all their money particularly the first year on remediation programs. it is about partnering with local institutions to ensure they are offering programs in line with current and future job markets, increasing likelihood that our young people graduate and be able to go to work if

necessary after school but recognizing not 1-size-fits-all and we need to prepare all of our kids for a path way to success after graduation from high school. what i would like to do after briefly reviewing each of those areas is to open the floor for your input and thoughts and i do have some guiding questions i would like to throw out as we welcome mayor vincent gray of the c to the meeting and thank you for having us in your city. to ask you all some questions around these issues. first, it is important to discuss briefly why we have chosen to be part of this task force and i want to get into these priority areas and how they might fit into a category within the education agenda we have discussed and other ideas you might have regarding this.

let me open the floor. a few of you like to address why you have joined and some of the things you like to see us address as we advance the agenda of the education reform task force. and i am going to ask you, we are being broadcast live on c-span so if you don't mind introducing yourself before you begin your comments. >> mayor elizabeth kautz, i would like to thank you, secretary duncan, for being here with us because the issue of early childhood education is important and we have spoken about this many times. the data has been there for a long time and we have been working through it. frustrating for someone like me who has been part of this issue back to win in the state of minnesota, governor arne paulson

was there and i was on a task force for early childhood education. in my city we decided to not wait for the federal government or the state government to help us and we are working with our stakeholders and we have a program called ready for kaye. it begins from birth to kindergarten. we also put in all day kindergarten in our city. the reason, the data says if you can get a child to read by third grade they will be more successful and graduation rate is much higher. for us this is the best way for us to get our children ready and to be successful and the way we have gone about this is to engage all of our stakeholders from our business community but the program works with parents as well because from birth to

kindergarten you need parents to understand what it is they can do to help their child to succeed and some of the parents who don't know english or can't read we have mentors for them so it is very comprehensive and i think it is the right pillars for us to work on. at times we mayors have to take action and work with our school board and superintendent to make sure these things happen and we use our influence to facilitate and engage the business community and others from the church community as well as other stakeholders to be mentored for these programs so that our children can be successful. >> thank you. we will come back to your point about sharing those spots in a moment. >> good afternoon, i am the new mayor of dayton, ohio, nan

whaley, and just starting this issue, the first time when i had my swearing in speech two weeks ago, the education piece we need to work on and quite frankly i look at it as a long-term jobs issue, if we don't change the issue of children not graduating high school, not being able to reach third grade we're crisis level. 40% of our students in the city of dayton will not pass third rate reading, a big issue for schools and big issue for the city so i am excited to be here to listen and learn best practices and think of ways dayton can make a difference in this issue. >> you see four pillars helping you to address the areas that you made out as your priorities? >> absolutely. we have cradled a pipeline to make sure kindergarten readiness is key, third grade reading, ninth grade transition, high school or military or career ready. this fits nicely, excited to get this in my e-mail box matching

what we were trying to do in day in. >> i saw a hand over here. gregory fischer. >> great work on the meeting, best practice, we all need to follow. well done. i suggest we consider adding something to the four pillars. in louisville what we are doing is developing the cradle to career pipeline so four pillars that we have, first one is early care and kindergarten readiness, the second is k-12, third recall 55,000 degrees which is 50,000 more college degrees in the communities and we would normally have but the fourth pillars 21st century work force. scenes the rapidly changing needs of the work force and what is coming out of our educational institutions, going back to grade school where we should be teaching basic problem solving, data collection and analysis, i

think that focus on what the jobs are of the day is important with our pillars strategy and will also give us more of an opportunity to mark our international competition and be aware of the global competition. i don't want us to lose sight of that. >> under the secondary pathways, post secondary path way is where we open the cover of 21st century job preparedness' i hope you will be part of that because you are leading an effort on job creation in your city but also the u.s. consul of mayors. let's come around, alvin brown. >> let's get you the mic. >> for new mayors, mayors don't control the school system but you can stay on the side line. an important point to make. for the new mayors there are ways to engage in education. for me i am focus on keeping

students on track to graduate. that is so important, we have to invest in them and so many things you mentioned, very important but i got to say i really was passive about this but when the former chair kevin johnson who led this task force really made a strong foundation, i want to thank him now that hancock is doing it. and some of the things you mention are critical. i don't control the system but appointed the first commissioner of education in the history of the city working with the school system, working with the business community. we have to make sure. my bowling jackson the list have 100% graduation rate, no more drop outs. and looking forward to the task force, working with those who care about that particular issue. >> now that mayor johnson has

come up front, what we are doing is launching from the foundation he started. i am glad mayer brown brought that forward. what he taught us as mayors is regardless what the span of influence and control is we have a tremendous influence and opportunity to impact education so we come around the table, more mayors want to talk but when we get to mayor johnson if you want to get a comment we will talk about that in a moment. >> every social indicator in our city should want me to be a strong participant in the task force, six years into our reform effort some great games of been made during that time the we have a long way to go given the property levels in our city and the largest achievement gap in our state but i also understand as a city that has been transforming mayoral

involvement, when you appoint the majority of the board there is a delicate balance to be had in achieving these goals in terms of having a good balance between the mayor and superintendent in terms of following the educational agenda which should be aligned between state policy and city policy, there is a delicate balance to be had with community and neighborhood groups who want to be active participants of the educational futures of the children, requires a delicate balance with collective bargaining sector and any descanting granny in these groups spiraling out of control. especially those jurisdictions that are trying to be aggressive in terms of implementing reform. we have been fortunate to have a good relationship with the secretary, secretary duncan who wants to be in my city yesterday but the snow storm detour him a bit as it did myself. took hours by train to get here.

we are doing some good work, some schools have 100% graduation rate, 100% college enrollment rate but we also have some really, really hurting schools with children i classify not as the poor but the poor or for. everything from the home to the community to the schools they're located, lack of resources, really contributes to that cyclical cycle. having said that we are forming some incredible partnerships engineering and science, there's a lot of work to do. i want to congratulate you for

this. >> chris cabaldon, i was one of the founding members of the task force joining mayor johnson and some others in this room and we worked hard over the last several years with the secretary in particular to get strong policy alignment. we are one of the leading organizations in the nation around a very solid program at the state and federal government that we support to ensure closing the achievement gap, that we have worked with and struggled with for generations with in our country, socioeconomic lines but also these international achievement gap but our work is not done. the committee mayor frank orlis chairs has been yeoman's work but this task force continues to be about delivering on the ground. once we said yes, we are with the administration and the secretary on high-quality

interest for all schools and systems that work for all kids and around robust incentives and accountable but that we are delivering. this task force is less about the broad statements around the state of the world we would like to see some day and more about what are we individually going to do and what we will do collectively. what i appreciate about mayor johnson's leadership is how uncomfortable it made me feel so often because the flip side of the synchronous city is all those stakeholders are in complete alignment and it is completely failing kids and that is the bottom line, what works best for kids, if we get the stakeholders in alignment in that direction, it is a beautiful thing but that is not the goal. the goal is to deliver for kids, no one more than mayor johnson put that forward every session of the task force and all the monthly check ins with the secretary that that is the test

of the work we're doing at the policy level and in this task force in particular in the real world in the cities we work in. the other piece i love about of practice and program elements you included here gets to that point what are we doing on the ground, i hope our task force, we can be better positioned for what secretary duncan put in the air for a student done but not lately. when things like race to the top come out, or the waivers out there that we in our communities and regions are taking playbooks, taking these policies, how do i take advantage of that half a billion dollars or that flexibility to do something real in my community on that time frame. this task force can be a great tool for leveraging federal work in that. >> you get to the heart of what we are going to talk about. when we line up to make comments

next call we call for a question to stay on time. we have mayor johnson, frank orlis, strickland and dennis doyle. >> off of what mayer brown said, we have to get involved as mayors. in our city, i meet with the principles quarterly of all these schools. a bunch of problems they pooled, school resources, we made the commitment to fund it and put school resources in schools, it is necessary, we are doing it, we have to do that. secretary duncan came down, charter schools system, and waiting to get in. we are funding problems even though the state statute says we honda and operated charter schools will get equal funding. school board members are

elective. we don't have that recalcitrants of cities and schools you want to start and secretary duncan led some great leadership, on the previous committee the commitment of this administration to give grants, $25.2 million for work-force training to community college so what a great job you are doing, that is what we have to encourage. >> thank you, marilyn strickland. >> regardless of the governance structure, i really believe the mayor of many city will be the most high-profile strong advocate for education and should be the one hole in our schools responsible and accountable. the question is why are we here. i and here for a simple reason. there is an education to present pipeline that affects communities of color disproportionately. it hurts communities and herds cities. we have an opportunity to fix

that at this level and that is why i am here today. >> endorsement of what you have seen, thank you for leading this. one attitude and i will try to add to this. if there ever was an issue that could be bipartisan i would think education should be it. and i call for all politicians on both sides of the aisle to try to get together and say this is the most important political issue of today as far as leadership and i don't hear it yet, i think secretary duncan has been one of the best education secretaries we ever had. but everybody is going to get on board on this platform.

second is really my frustration. i have studied this, worked on this, i just feel it is around the edges. if we have to argue about how we use the word reform we are talking about the wrong thing. we need to take this in a very tough-minded strategic fashion. i suggest we 3 things. one is we don't do best practices enough. when you ask who is doing it right there is lack of clarity around that and if it is they have this situation, that situation, there are a lot of smart people in the world that can take those variables out and figure this out and some philosophies in what they do. second is if we don't set up

measurements that we all agree with, then we don't care about it. if you don't measure it is not important to you. i am a believer in stacking and i can tip my hat to you, mayor, and to marilyn strickland because the cowboys were 8-age. you guys are going to the superbowl. we need that clarity around our school system. who is the best and who is the worst. i don't care, i know it is politics again but put them all out, let's know who is good and who is bad because that is what will create organizational change. the third point is the changes we make our around the edges. we need step function, systemic tests, a lot of cities and a

couple cities would have done something nobody else has even thought about and let's see how that works, figure out how we help fund those tests and learn from them but everyone is in the middle and i doing about stuff and not really approaching this on the intellectual figures that i think is necessary. i am glad what you are saying, me up and take more will we are talking about. >> you hold that thought. i have a request for you. you are going to close this? >> it is hard to follow. if you were married to an educator, this would follow you every day of your life. i will never get quiet about this. and we will never make the rest of this happened the way we need

to do and one of our residents, not even born in the u.s. metrics are changing throughout. if we don't fix this the rest of the good things, talking about evolving with the rules evolving in nearly a recession, what are the metrics and what we need to be teaching? i am tired of the big companies and we don't have enough trained workers but if we don't fix it, it is not their fault. it is our fault. to me that is a crime and we have to fix it and it really gets to me. i watch it, we talk to parents and listen to my wife. >> secretary duncan? >> a couple quick thoughts. and each city could have a scorecard in metric so early childhood. how many seats you have and what

you are doing to close it up. much more interested in growth and gains, how you get to 38 and 78. and it is probably the most commercial. and conversations that you and others have done compels you to believe, and having conversation with the community is important. on track to graduation, waiting to a junior or senior year too late so freshman on track all kinds of early indicators, lot of information on best practicess what are you doing to intervene early for those kids straggling in the help they need and the last one after the college side. and colleges across the country 40% of young people take remedial classes, look at four year public universities it is 38%, almost identical.

those kids are not ready. to your point, who is doing this well now, not perfectly, look objectively the city comparison. not everyone has been there. did much better than anyone else in terms of improvement. they are not where they need to be or want to be. a couple things that have contributed to d.c.'s leadership, childhood education, they adopted higher standards a couple years ago. with that created some heartaches and heartburn, most standard never get you where you need to go but had a relentless focus, evaluation and not cheated everybody the same. this had a delivery system, traditional schools, charter schools want more high quality seats, old debate of gotten away from and inspiring them adjusted every single year so haven't done things perfectly, listen to

teachers and the community and make changes. it hasn't been we have it all figured out. doing some things and it is a package of things, it is not one magic bullet, the passage of things together, outside gains, absolutely replicable in the city. and a score card, and doing the best in other metrics and this is work, not action. >> that is a perfect segue to the next question. i would like to entertain a motion to adopt the agenda for this year. we have a motion, a second. readiness for the adoption of this agenda. i assume we have consensus which is redundant. what i want to do is move to the

action item. >> that is a pretty good recommendation. the idea that we are fostering here goes to the heart of what secretary duncan talked-about and many of you alluded to. we keep having conversations, a lot are doing good things we file from. mayor johnson created a framework we all have handbook to participate as members of the task force that was tremendous. what we are proposing to begin to codify the best practices so that we can access it from our offices, to create what we call an online playbook and we would seek a committee of mayors, a small committee from this task force hopefully led by mayor

mike rollins that would create a framework for evaluating those best policies, practices and programs that would go on line and have some code of 5 based on these four pillars we created and then they will also be measured based on a tool in which to see how the city is performing with regard to certain metrics. so the idea is to create this online playbook. you spoke so well. that is one of the dangers of being so eloquent you get elected to do other things but i am asking if you consider doing this, fantastic. this is an important piece. i want to talk about the online playbook and the machinations of that. the online playbook is something we would keep up-to-date. if you want to know about the best practice of promising

practice policy across the nation or childhood education you hit the website and hit early childhood education in every city that has been vetted and the evaluation of the program, up and down, right there for your staff to pull and to borrow and implement within your city and that takes the ideal a step further. doesn't just say we are doing something. we are putting it out for other cities to replicate promising efforts across the country and we do that for each of the four areas and we talk about those areas but the key is that would be committees that would help us to identify best practices across the country. some mayors have volunteered their names, some like mayer brown helping kids stay on track to graduate but we will ask mayors roundtable to volunteer to help us put their process together. and the online playbook.

for final discussion, and what you think of the online playbook and any recommendations and the next question is an area you are most interested in if you are willing to serve on a small committee to help us flush out the best promising practices, policies and programs around nation. first online playbook. chris coleman. you are not chris coleman. >> it is always great to have an online playbook, just to suggest an addition to it which is almost a chat room we can kind of have a continual conversation to say what is working or have you tried this or whatever but we do get stuck sometimes and we don't always break through those barriers. i was actually since mayor rollins brought up his cowboys, vikings fans, i have no where to go on this at all other than my

closest analogy, adrian peterson and someone who can hand the ball and put it down the field, it is an example how as the community even though we can't just focus on that one factor, it is as a team we are able to build. one of the things we overlook some times because it is harder to measure, i appreciate the desire to measure anything, the social and emotional skills that are absolutely critical to a child's success, their ability to overcome the obstacles light hand them, the ability to navigate the turtles once they get into post secondary institution to be able to succeed and have the motivation to do that so i wonder when we get to playbook how do we measure the things that are harder to measure? is easy to ignore them and say test scores went up here or there but how do you measure the

emotional bonds with their parents at an early age for those things? >> captured the anecdotal information, that is very important. >> it is less anecdotal but not as easily measurable. but equally important for a lot of resources i have seen, very clear the example of the academy's having great success in kids graduating from high school, less success at least in the early phases of getting them through college so there is a missing link and that is the challenge, to understand the complexity of this issue that goes beyond the test scores and into what makes a child successful long-term, not just getting them out of high school. >> thank you. >> can i build on it and ask secretary duncan, what do you hear about the soft things in america today?

are we trending up towards family support, are we still kind of going down? what is happening with those numbers? >> the huge point, the emotional grip, resilience and tenacity, executive functioning, i would say it is as predictive of long-term success of not more on all long-term side. is definitely a sign that is in its infancy, but there are folks who are looking at this and doing surveys of kids and asking questions of this group of mayors can provide interesting body of knowledge, one that is many other goals, an important one worth coming from family, church, nonprofit, teacher

counselor, an adult in their life where they can go through good times and bad times and if that is coming from home fantastic, if not, from a church or girls' club but absent that it is tougher on kids but there is a lot of work this group could do to reinforce those skills. >> are you feeling is getting better? >> i honestly don't know. i think it is tough out there, lots of families struggling, parents looking for work so this is hard stuff. >> if to follow up, you address that in some ways brilliantly, you and the president when you start talking about let's not be taking behavior that end and the principal's office and taking it to the police station and that is an example of things that are outside the pillars we look at historically and say wait a

second, there is institutionalized systems causing huge problems. how do we think outside the box. i think it is not always the stuff that gets included in the conversation. >> chris coleman's point and secretary duncan's, we should add a fifth dimension to this, the inner workings or connective tissues between these four systems. this is a system we are talking about, not just four pillars, to identify that overlap this is important and part of that, chris coleman, is how we track each kid in the community so we know when they are dropping out where the intervention takes place around these four pillars, batting urges us not to miss the interconnection, looking at this as a whole system. >> does one have to be a member

of this task force to help? sign me up. >> always glad to have a kansas city chiefs in the room. >> and retire. >> i have to remind people that there are some communities who are hamstrung to an extent, their school areas. and a number of municipalities, encouraging -- >> push the button. >> some of the school districts are very large, some

municipalities are hamstrung as to what they can do. in your playbook i think there needs to be some way where there is advocacy and assistance where the town's can get together, the things they can do despite being hamstrung by large school district who control the budget, control the buildings to control all that. >> that is very good. we are against the hour, at least the time we are supposed to conclude. here is what i would like to do as a next step. you still have fought. the online playbook is something you are interested in seeing as developed as a next step. >> the police report, a capability, understanding there should be a component to figure out where we are on the continuum of mayoral

involvement. we appoint all or not a.so we can start to have different conversations and do one against the pattern for increase mayoral involvement to get as much as possible. >> glad you said that. that is a launching pad, the foundation established under the leadership of mayor johnson. we will keep that as a foundation piece. we wills' receive an e-mail for those who want to sign up for the various areas we have asked you to sign up for but there may be a fifth one. we call it vetting for lack of a better word where this will be a group that will frame how to determine what best practices and programs and policies go up on the online playbook. i was thinking we could get you to be a part of that, mike rawlings, we have a lot of pieces to put together. we will ask you to respond to those e-mails. please respond and we can keep

moving and have action on all these items. any final comments? >> profoundly difficult question is what do we want our schools to do? i could go on the difficulty, i deal with folks out there in the trenches. that to me is a huge question hopefully as we go through the exercise, come up with an answer. what we expect schools to be now was a lot different from 1966. >> we hope to get this online playbook moving by the june meeting so lot of work to do between now and then. we stand adjourned. >> this morning on c-span2 fbi director james cummings gives this keynote speech at the national sheriffs' association.

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