>> if your predictions prove quite correct, -- [inaudible] proctor and gamble looking to hire sport high school kids and training them instead of getting a higher degree and can't? >> they might. the reason you don't see more of this, if you are somebody and train them and then they leave, you don't recoup your investment. and, of course, in the old days we had apprenticeships systems that make sure they didn't leave until you recoup your investment. a lot of student -- almost a form of indentured servitude now. so that's an issue but i don't think it's at all unbeatable. i think that there is a growing -- one of the places pushing certifications example is the manufacturing industry, people pushing certificates that should

have skills. 's i think you'll see more of that. by the advocate to the point where it's substantially displaces college degrees, i would like to see that because i think it would be good but i don't know if it will. mcdonald's has hamburger university. you go there and learn a lot. it's a valuable to them. specs thanks very much, glenn reynolds. [applause] >> and thank you all for coming. [inaudible conversations] >> is there a nonfiction author or book you would like to see featured on booktv? send us an e-mail at the booktv@c-span.org. or tweet us at twitter.com/booktv.

>> most people don't really understand how it works. a lot of people write books and then they spend the next two years trying to get somebody to publish their books. i've never really experienced that. when people come to me as a how to get a book published, i say, look, i'm the wrong person to ask. but i finally felt that really i had something to say. i don't write books just for the purpose of writing books. the first three, four books actually, i did with a cowriter. and basically i would sometimes do take them to a tape recorder and then send them the tapes and then they would, you know, transcribe things. this last book i did myself with

my wife. you know, she did a lot of the research and help with the editing. and, of course, she's quick to point out this is the first one that hit number one in the new york times bestsellers list. [laughter] but actually i enjoy very much working with my wife. certainly i'll be doing that from now on. >> fortunately it does tend to come pretty easily. it's very much like speaking. when i give a speech, yeah, i don't have a written text. i just go up there, yeah, i survey the situation, i ask what kind of audience we have and you know, i'll have a few points that want to make sure that a make that i have written on a card, and they just start speaking. basically i write the same way.

i have a chapter titled and i'll write down simple points but what i want to say and i order them. i just start dictating. so it's very much come in, what's in my heart. i always pray and ask god to guide me in my writing, to give me wisdom in terms of points need to be brought out. and i think it does a pretty good job. >> i didn't see myself as a person is a message for my world. i do see myself as a person trying to understand myself and i situate myself. i think i did looking to me what i was giving some lectures of the u.s. air force academy in colorado springs. and a very nice, well educated, broad-minded liberal young

admiral, officer, had lots of chats with me which i find very interesting, and he told me he told me he was a liberal. he told me he's a liberal and he told me that he was -- but, he said, when people come to this country, they should learn the native language. i didn't think he was speaking about comanche. so i said yes, i quite agree, everybody should learn spanish. >> the summit and evolution of the united states from a hispanic perspective, "our america" tonight at nine on "after words," part of booktv this weekend on c-span2. and online at the booktv's book club you still time to weigh in on the mark lev