longer aligned with the users they are aligned with the shareholders and i am worried they will do things that benefit the shareholders and not in the best interest of the people that use the service. i help they can find that balance. >> host: and finally, where is noah glass today? >> noah glass lives in san francisco. he left the city for a couple years and went to live in los angeles on venice beach, california. he tried to find new projects to work on. you will have to read at the end of the book to find out where he is. but he is the character in the story who set out trying to find and build something that would make him feel less alone and he learned along the way, and i don't think any of the other guys did it in the way noah did, that technology is another thing that will connect you to people

and it is those human connections. >> host: the name of the book is "hatching twitter: a true story of money, power, friendship and betrayal" nick bilton of "the new york times" is the author. >> a look at the role the administration wants young people to have on the affordable care act. and then the south carolina tea party's convention. and then the hudson forum on communication policy.

>> a look at the role the administration wants young adults to have. our guest was rebecca adams of cq health beat. follow us on twitter. >> "washington journal" continues. >host: our guest for this segmet is rebecca adams. a was a big wrench mark of the affordable care act,

>> the role of young people is one of the bench marks. tell us what you are seeing? >> on january 13th, the first demographic breakdown was put out. the administration is showing 40% of the sign ups would be among young people. so far what we are seeing is about 24% of the people signing up are young people. now that is in proportion to the population. about 26% of the population is young people. so the administration has a lot of ground to make up. >> taking a look at the numbers, what does that mean and explain how it will impact the laws?

>> they are looking for young people because that is a proxy for health. the administration wants more people signing up for care then will need care. if you have a lot of 55-year-olds, which we are seeing sign up, they will use the health care a bit with high expenses. and you need younger and heathier people to subsidize the cost. there is a concern, or has been a concern, that insurance companies might actually raise the premiums next year to make up for the losses. >> you mentioned the last data we had was on january 13th, when can we expect to see updated numbers? >> they do it every month so we can expect soon. on friday they put out a little information and told us 3 million people signed up for marketplace plans. but didn't break it down for us

so we don't know the increase is younger people. >> host: our guest is rebecca adams. 202-585-3800 for under 39. and if you are 50 and older you can call in at the screen. you can reach out on twitter or on facebook or e-mail as well. what efforts, rebecca, has the administration done to reach out to the young people? >> they have $76 million for paid advertising and that is not just for young people but they are gearing it toward them.

and advertising during the up coming winter olympics. they are enlisting cell ebbs to go out there and talk about. they have paid ads that are coming out. they are highlighting the videos on the internet website funny or die. and so there are trying to convince people that this is something they need. this is protection that can help them. they are trying to explain how the market is changing since the affordable care act took place. since the affordable care act took >> host: let's go to the phone lines. our first call is coming from arizona. anthony is on the line. >> caller: good morning. i am calling because the affordable care act has allowed my son, who is in college, to

get a policy as we know until age 26, i believe. and you know, he has been a little time in college, but it ended up the affordable care act didn't cover more things than the university policy covered. and i have two children and one is married with a third child and he is paying a $1500 deductible for the third child through her husband's insurance policy. i grew up in a family of single-parents, seven children, and we were on welfare so associated with that was limited health care. it is so critical that we all understand health care is more than just the dollars spent. it is a lifetime of how your

lifestyle is going to end up. i am at 54 now. i am going to try to, you know, live another 20-30 years, but i got serious health problems. early intervention would have made a key decision in how my life would have been later. but i have been able to get on top of it but overall i have stressed by children, my married daughter and son in college, you have to have health care and when i left the military, i spent $600 a month to make sure i had coverage until i could get a job that provided coverage. >> host: the caller brings up interesting points. there is a very strong belief among policy makers that preventive care does improve health outcomes. that is one of the reasons why the affordable care act does require health insurers to cover

preventive services for people. hopefully people will be able to take advantage of that and it will help improve health outcomes among different demographics groups and among the population as a whole. he did mention that his son was able to stay on his insurance policy. that was one of the first things that took affect with the affordable care act. that happened six months after the law passed. about 3 million young adults have been able to stay on their parent's policy. now people can go to the marketplace to check out and see whether the coverage that is available there would be helpful to them. a lot are going to be eligible for subsidies as well. >> host: i will ask you a question about the marketplace.

they say during december there was an 8 fold increase. and between 18-34 that selected a marketplace plan through the federal place. explain what that means in english? >> they are trying to say there was a surge in december. the number of young people who signed up grew more than the number of people who signed up in general. there was an eight-fold increase in young people and five-fold increase among the population as a whole. they see that as generating additional young people. we are starting from a low starting point. the first day the website was operating only six people were able to sign up. so it was a low starting point but they believe as the march 31st deadline approaches more and more young people will go

and sign up. they believe that older people, sicker people, people who are motivated to get the benefits as soon as they started on january 1st, they were the first to sign up. and as time goes on, they think more and more young people. >> host: our next caller is from michigan. >> caller: hey. >> host: good morning. >> caller: i am calling in today to voice my opinion on how many people's suffer ever this obamacare -- where is the freedom of choice? >> he is bringing up the issue of the individual mandate. most americans need to buy insurance this year. the penalty if you don't do that is $95 or 1% of your income,

whichever is more. the supreme court upheld this. you can get exemptions but there is a provision that requires people to buy insurance. >> host: another call from greenville, kentucky. peter is 26. >> caller: my question is concerning the 20-something percent of 18-38-year-olds that signed up. is there going to be another marketing mechanisms to get up to sign up other than via online? and another question, when i signed up i was given a notice letter saying i need today mail in my prison release records --

what was the purpose of that? >> i don't know about the prison release records. if you have not been in prison it was probably a mistake. there are call centers you can call into it. and you can go to in-person centers and get help. that has been very important where the technical problems from the website. you can also go online to other websit website's. you can go to other brokers or regular brokers that can help you sign up. >> host: if i am like peter and under the age of 34, what kind of premiums am i looking at? >> people who are younger do have cheaper insurance than the

older people. the health care law has a 3: 1 ratio. so they can offer younger people a 1/3 discount. they can offer rates to older people that is three times the cost of the younger people. but that is different than previously. they had a 5: 1 ratio in the past. so they could charge old er people as much as five times as much. younger people might be paying more than what they paid in the past, but on had other hand, there are federal subsidies that could be helpful and young adults have lower incomes and they are probably eligible for very interesting help. you can get a premium discount if you have, and cost sharing discount, if your income is less

than 250% of the poverty level which is about $28,000. and you get a discount on everything if you are between 100-400 percent of the poverty level. so they can help quite a bit. >> host: our next call is from urbana, ohio. brian who is 37. >> caller: what is the difference between canada and what we are using? >> canada has a single-payer administration that is different. the obama administration didn't pursue that because they knew it would not get through congress. canada has a system that is government-run.

what we have here is something different. it is where the government regulates the private insurance that is offered in the individual and small group markets. and the federal government always offers subsidy help. they offer finance assistance to people who cannot afford it but it is very different than what is in canada. >> host: i want to ask you about employers. target said it is going to stop offering plans and send the employees to the marketplace and home depot is doing that. >> employers are saying we can provide financial assistance and they can get a better deal. it is better for us to give them a little bit of money to buy it. we may see it continue. >> host: morgantown, virginia is the next call. bob is on the phone and he is

62. >> caller: i would like to comment on how we muddied the waters. i am in a low-risk situation as far as automobile insurance but it goes to help the higher risk of the younger people. and i have always network had children but my taxes go to pay help for schools and universities and such. and not having kids, my insurance premiums help people with families and that is what is called a society and i know we have forgotten that society. >> there are all sorts of subsidies in the environment and we see those are examples that we see all across society. younger people will be subsidizing the cost of older people if they buy insurance.

the idea is that heathier people, we don't know the health status of these people, but younger people tend to be heathier, heathier people are paying in for protection so when they do have high cost they will be covered. in some cases, younger people or heathier people might be paying more than they need at this particular point. but at some point there may come a time when they might have a car crash, or break a leg, and will need that coverage. >> host: fredrick, maryland is the next caller. david is 30 on the line. >> caller: it is great to talk to you. i have two quick points. the first one is i don't like the arm twisting and the lies that have been coming from washington. as a young guy that bothers me.

that is not the way to get my attention. and the advertisements are not going to swing me to get insurance. i may get insurance. i have not decided at this point. but that is not going to be their top-selling point. my next point is i am a taxpayer i have to be licensed with multiple background checks and the fact the naviga gators can e private information without background checks concerns me. >> this is something republicans are raising concerns about them not going to a background checks. some states have passed laws that have different requirements. so this is something that has been discussed. there is a lot of information that navigators get but they go

through intense training. the democratic response is these are people who have been trained and vetted and are there to help people figure out insurance is best. >> host: what is the consequence for young people don't get insurance? >> this could be a big problem. but it isn't going to lead to -- let's say the percentage of young people stays the same. there has been a lot of researchers who looked at this and they don't think we are going to see the death spiral some people are fearing and that is where premiums go up and that scares away heathier people who think it isn't a good deal and every year you see higher and

higher premiums and less healthy people. what people are saying is that is not going to happen. there are a lot of protections in the law. there is a requirement that everybody buy insurance. the subsidies are helping people. there are protections in the first three years for companies that the law is set up through the federal government covering the sickest cases and sharing the losses. and there is a protection so that plans to get healthy people pay for those that get a lot of people signing up with very high cost. there are all of the protections that help to protect the marketplace from turning into this death spiral. there was an interesting analysis put forward by the a

non-partisan group here in washington. they found if the percentage of young people stays the same, 24-25 percent, then premium cost will go up, including premiums and profits, would be about 2.4% more than the insurer's revenue. they have a 3-4% profit margin and could take it from there and make it up the next year by slightly higher premiums. if the number goes up a little bit, if there are 33 percent of people who sign-up, then it is even less a consequence. it is a little more than 1%. we might see slightly higher premiums but it isn't going to

turn into the issue people are fearing. >> host: st. joseph, missouri is the next call. jason is 23. >> caller: a lot of people i talked to are worried about the security on the health care site because of hackers. i know there was four hackers that testified in congress saying it wasn't a safe website. i just wanted to get your comment on that and let you know a lot of people i talk to say that is the reason they are not signing up for it. thank you very much. >> this is something that came up in congress at the committee hearings. there is a lot of concern about this. joe barton brought this to people's attention. one of the concerns was that the health care website was certified on a temporary basis. the administration is good at

p protecting people's information. they did this with medicare and where going through to make sure people's information is protected. >> host: i want to ask you about congress and what their role is likely to be. the house has taken a number of votes looking to repeal the affordable care act. there is legislation about the data breaches. what is the next step? >> we will so continued attacked and additional votes where republicans control in the house. this is going to be a big issue in the election. we are in an election year now. i am sure we will see a bit of campaign rhetoric around this. >> host: dan is 48 calling from manhattan, beach california.

>> caller: i am calling from w hawaii. what is the difference between the va health care and the obamacare? which is better? >> the va system is more like the british system. so you have health care providers provider care directly to patients. in the exchanges, you are seeing private insurers like blue cross blue shields or aetna offering government-regulated plans. people are choosing which one to buy. it has to conform with requirements like the benefits offered, it has to meet certain

requirements about how much of the cost they are covered. there are four different tear l levals. bronze is 60%. and platinum is 90%. there is a bit of difference in how the systems operate. in terms of the quality of care at the va, i think it varies by hospital. there are complaints about the system but there are people saying it provides essential care. >> host: none of this impacts them? >> right. if you get care from the va you will continue to do that. >> host: michael is calling in from pennsylvania. he is 56 years old. >> caller: i got hurt 20 years

ago in a bad coal mining incident and i have been on disability. i am on freedom blue which is added to medicare. i have had eight major surgeries. and this last while every time i go to the hospital now, i have to wait. i had a bad ekg and they wanted to do a stress test and they made me wait a week. i had to do an echo and they had to make me wait a week. and they upped all of my deductibles to $100-$200. they dropped my wife's -- we have a young child at home. they dropped my wife's hallmark

special care insurance. we went to a health care service agent and they didn't know what we could do. they extended it to june they said. we could have qualified for a silver plan. they said we could continue to pay our premiums which went up to $18 more than what the increase was in our benefit for the social security. i cannot see where this is benefiting us at all. that is what my comment is. >> can i clarify -- you said you could qualify for a silver plan but the cost is $18 more? >> so far, but we won't know until june. he said it is 80/20 split.

so you have a deductible of $6,000. so a hospital visit is up to $6,000. and you know, with my income and our circumstances, that could bankrupt us. i don't know where -- it is like safe auto or progressive. this auto insurance type-business with the young kids. they think they have insurance but they don't. they don't tell you up front that why you are covered but you are really not. it is falsehood. it is just like freedom blue. they took my oxygen away from me. they said we didn't take it away from you, it will cost you $30 a

month. i cannot afford $30 a month. but they took it away because i cannot afford that $30 a month. >> the out of pocket cost are a big concern for people. the deductibles on the marketplaces are high compared to what you see as the unemployed plan. $6,000 isn't unusual. they do offer protection from the individual market which is the group we are talking about. when you compare the deductibles that are offered here, $6,000 is common. the health care law caps them at $6, 350. the individual marketplace before the health care law wasn't regulated this tightly. and when you talk about bankruptcy, people could go

bankrupt because they might be faced with a $100,000 in cost. that is not allowed. the bad news is the deductibles are high. those are concerns that are being heard. >> host: you mentioned younger people or heathier people are subsidizing the cost and my question is if you are in the pool of younger and heathier people what is the benefit to sign up? it is the ... law. you are required to sign up for some kind of insurance now. there is that. the other thing is that you just never know in life when you will be the person who gets in an gets a diagnosis for a disease that you did not know that you would be getting. you are buying protection. there are a lot of people who say, i would rather spend the money on something else.

it is a little bit harder to make that argument to people. certainly, people, younger people have a lot of interest in getting return on investment. the investment -- the return is there, but it is a little less tangible than something that you can walk around with or a new ipod or whatever it might be. host: our next call is from greenwood lake, new york. caller: hi there. thank you for taking my call. my point is this. i am for the affordable care act. i will not be able to use it because i cannot afford it. it is $525 per month for my husband and myself. that is the bronze plan. it is just not affordable with the deductibles. that does not mean that for my niece and her husband wore a little bit younger than us, with two children who are in high

school and college, this is going to benefit their family. it is going to be something that they will squeak by, but they will be able to afford it with the subsidies in the help. this is so important. it is a start, a beginning. i would have preferred a single- myself. i hear a lot of misinformation about things like that. nothing is perfect. you have to work out the -- all of the kinks in this law. things can be changed and worked on and bettered over years. who said his man friends were not going to get insurance because they were afraid of the security breach, for crying out loud, in my cancer orf he gets gets ill and dies because he did not have insurance, because he was worried about a security breach when we have had the

security breaches at target and all of the stores where they have no problem and going and buying computers and whatnot, it is kind of silly to me. that is nonsense. my daughter, who has a fairly --ent job, but her expenses she is going to have an issue with being able to afford the affordable care act. been 260 dollars per month. she has a car payment, car insurance. tolls, gas -- she cannot afford that. she is also going from a temp position to a full-time position, so she will be getting health insurance. my husband and i have been self- employed, going back and forth from working to other and our- for the people own business. i thought i might be eligible for some health insurance through a company i was going to

work for, but now we are going back to being self-employed may be. we do not know what we are doing. going on 57,t 56, i know i need health insurance. i can feel it. guest: i think that is why you are seeing so many people in that age bracket by insurance. what is interesting about the sign-ups is that not enough young people are signing up, but a lot more old people are signing up than what they expected. we are seeing -- if you look at some of the charts -- the percentage of people they were hoping for a monday 55 and older group was about 70%. we have seen so far -- 17%. 33% of sign-ups are in that age bracket now. , iferms of your own cost you do not qualify for a subsidy, it can be expensive.

it sounds like you do not qualify for a subsidy. that can be a problem. if you want to compare costs, you can also go and look at other costs -- other insurance offered through blue cross blue shield or other insurance companies outside of the marketplaces. he do not have to buy insurance through the marketplaces. you can look at other individual market plans as well. through any of the brokers to might be available to help you. it certainly sounds as if you are facing some pretty formidable cost. host: our next call is dominique who is 23 in richmond, virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am a young black man. i'm on my grandfather's insurance. he has blue cross blue shield. i have a blood disorder. most of the doctors that see me do not know what to do. last night, i was in the hospital and released me because

they said they did not know what to do with me because i am allergic to all of the blood centers. but blood centers are the only thing that are supposed to help me. tvm sitting at home watching with no doctors willing to keep me in a hospital and actually find out what is going on. i have been suffering from this since i was 19. i'm trying to figure out how this could help me. i don't pay attention to the government and all that stuff. i am in a moment where i am hurting and i am down and i do not know. i need some guidance. thank you. you have a regular specialist that you go to see who watches what you are doing and observe your care? caller: yes, ma'am. guest: but they are having trouble finding a solution for you. caller: yes, ma'am. , theyight, the hospital

released me because they said there was no more they could do for me. this, butate to say it sounds like you are in a better position because you do have insurance and a regular specialist. i do hope they figure out what the best medical care be -- would be and i wish you luck and i hope everything works out. your doctors can work a little bit better to try to help you. host: our next call is in cambridge maryland. 46 years old. caller: am i on? host: you are. caller: when i turned 18, i did the responsible thing and got insurance. prudential. never used it until i was 35. i pay $210. all of a sudden, i had a kidney stone. i had to go to the hospital for two days. my bill payment was $5,000. my insurance picked up

$2000. i was thinking, i have been paying all this time for insurance and when i actually need it, i still am going to have pocket money to pay for more than half. i thought i had good insurance. i thought maybe we had accounts for the young. 40, thenwhen i got to by a subsidy plan to help you with the major accidents. if i had money in the bank, it is my money. i could use it as i needed it. all of these kids that are getting ready to get insurance, do they realize that some of these premiums have $6,000 deductibles? $6,000.not have where result money going to come from when the need to use the insurance? they have nothing to pay the deductible.

the hospital is going to end up having to lose it. i hired a guy, he ended up being an illegal mexican, he got appendicitis and went into the hospital. he finds a later from the irs that there were 10 with the same name as an and social security number. i thought he was legal. it was $10,000 for the bill. he had no insurance. there he is. he just got out. he just went back to mexico about a year later. once the irs started coming around. he left and went back to mexico. the hospital had to eat that too. we think it is an answer, but these people do not have the money in their bank accounts to pay the deductible one a comes down to it. the think they have insurance, but then they really do not. i guess we are all going to get stuck with a bill. guest: the hospitals are

certainly very concerned about that. they're always talking about the bad debt that they have to adopt and take care of themselves. this is something that the government does provide some assistance in covering bad debt. less and less. people have to make sure that they understand that the insurance they are buying does not cover everything. they will have to pay out-of- pocket before some of the bigger costs are covered. the nice thing is is that there is this limit on the amount that you have to pay, even if you have a $100,000 surgery. $6,000 can be a lot of money to come up with. certainly, people are thinking about that. i should mention that there are some plans that offer a lower deductible than that. there are some plans that have a $2000 deductible. those generally tend to be at

the upper ends of the tier level. you have to pay higher premiums if you go that route. affordability is a big issue. host: our last call comes from buffalo, new york. henry is on the line. caller: how's it going? just to make the short, i am from puerto rico. born and raised in new york. i come from a country where the government is not too much help as far as public assistance and so on and so forth. there was also a caller who mentioned that he had to pay the deductible out-of-pocket which was $3000. what is the plan for the to do with employers who are dropping employees from full-time employment know that a lot has changed?

what is the plan for the government to deal with these employers for making these harsh decisions during this tough economy? word box of cereal is almost five dollars. what is the plan of the government? what is the congress or executive branch plan to do in reaction to these employers? the money has to cycle itself. employers are avoiding hiring any other citizen. decisions are to cut the hiring. guest: in terms of dropping from full-time to part-time status for the employees, there is not much the government can do. the businesses have control of those decisions. there is a penalty for employers who have more than 50 workers

who do not offer insurance. that is not going to take effect until 2015. there was also a tax credit in the law for small businesses. fewer than 50 people. they can take advantage of a tax wayit to try -- that is the the government is trying to encourage people to cover their employees. some mechanism for the government to go after people who are dropping people from 45 hours per week 229 hours hours per- to 29 week, there is not a good way to do that. host: we will leave it there.

small businesses. we saw -- cut taxes for first-time of buyers. we cut taxes for parents trying to care for the children. 8 million americans paying for college. >> what president obama deliver this year's address. our preview program starts live tuesday night at 8:00 eastern with the president at mccourt paula by the response from republican conference chair catherine mcmorris rogers and your reaction by phone, facebook , and twitter. the "state of the union" tuesday night live on c-span2, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> the south carolina to party

coalition held its convention in myrtle beach focusing on health care, immigration, the latino vote, in the elections. this is three hours. >> hello. >> when this country -- with this country welcome to the immigrants in the early part of the 20th-century and the late 19th century, they came to america because of our constitution. our constitution till then -- >> your phone is ringing. [laughter] >> the constitution told them that there was opportunity in america. it guarantee that opportunity for all. it did not guarantee equal outcomes. they came here to work and to build a life. when they left their countries in western europe as they boarded the ships, they look back on their countries and said goodbye because they knew there

would not be back. and when they came to america blended into come americans. they put their heritage behind them. and although we now only refer to hyphenated americans, those people were real americans. they wanted to become americans. in today's society where you hear them shouting every day that we should have multiculturalism, that divides the country. that is not like a melting pot that brings it all together so. and so they have been successful , indoctrinating the younger people in our colleges with this multiculturalism. we don't want 100 different cultures in america. we want american culture, and they came here for the american dream.

and we want to keep the american dream available to everyone who comes to this country legally. so let's get rid of the hyphenated -- >> yes. of course most works so well. that's why the balkans has become an adjective and not just a note. when you become balkanized as when you have multiple cultures in one society in the does not work and they go along swimmingly, the? which one do you want to do next? >> let's talk about green energy. >> the second greatest game of the decade. >> i would love to have green energy. i would love to have it. if it were as competitive with our existing energy. and not even our existing energy, if it was competitive when we start using the resources that are available under our land and off our shores. the united states has hundreds

of years of oil and natural gas, and we are forbidden to use it. can you imagine that those areas were opened of and some of the bills got signed on obama's desk that allowed the building of liquids by natural gas conversion plans how much we could sell to china. we would lower the price of energy all over the world. and no with technology energy has become one of the biggest costs and a manufacturing process. if we can lower the cost of energy in the united states who would have jobs coming back and let there was no tomorrow. said green energy has been the scam. all this nonsense, of these pockets the got filled with bribes and corruption to build solar plants better voting, by

solar panels from china. when that code to take them anymore. [applause] cahuenga. >> i would like to make one point. if it is a good idea, you don't need government money for it. [applause] >> in any state. we are building and many state. and president obama's says, i have a pen and i have a phone. and he wants to be the imperial president. well, -- >> i also have a pen, and i also have a phone. buy it going to use them nonstop to pound away at our representatives in congress for them to stand up to their oath of office to support and defend

the united states constitution. they should be charged with perjury. they take the oath and they go around and they immediately violated. when some accountability in washington. >> among going to be talking about government by fiat which is a we have been experiencing, we will do the letter. more on women, and just going to start with one little number that i heard this morning and the drive into the airport and then i will let joe go. there are five republican women governors, one democrat woman governor. so it -- we are batting five times their average as far as moving governors are concerned. so i don't know what they're talking about. and if my main gate just slightly grass, it is not because i am grass but he is. the democratic party.

that is a little bizarre to me. i don't know. >> racist. they all want to call as racist. but i tell you folks, i tell you patriots that the only people that are racist of the ones they use the word racist. [applause] >> the good senator from the state, who is it? and how much melanin the sea have? a great. thank you. homophobic. i read a great quote. ronald reagan had a great "for everything. it's a strong this one yesterday of facebook. he said, i don't care who you have sex with a what you doing have sex, just don't do it in this tree and frighten the horses. [laughter] obamacare. >> we don't care. we just don't want to, you know, it's still one is stuck in our faces, though one had, in your lives, we don't care to read

this list along with the. >> obamacare. the bill that nobody read. >> a bill that no one read. >> a bill. perhaps one of the most important bills of heart turns. obamacare is out to destroy our society. all the information that you have to get to the government to sign up for their health care plan, their website is not secure. they can't get it running. and hackers are going to have a field day in stealing your identity and information. and so i say to you, all of you, stand up for your first amendment rights. be proud of your constitution. political correctness. [applause]

>> all right. speaking of governing by fiat, have the modern version of the chichi. if this were the 2004 presidential debate like george w. bush, would have a debt buyback. remember that? yap. somebody does. accused of cheating for having it chichi get this back. i just have this for some notes. what we have been experiencing the last five years, and especially since the 2010 election victory you guys delivered is barack obama governing by fiat. he can't get legislation passed because of his tea party victory in the house. so what he has been doing is he has been riding executive orders. they throw some garbage out there about he has now written as many as george w. bush. well, he is one conflating

concerning statements and executive orders which are different animals. to, if he writes one that creates the dream act out of whole cloth, that's just one executive order, but that's a pretty sweeping one. so if george bush wrote five little tiny ones in barack obama creates the dream that, i take the final for the one. so this entire concept of the numerical thing does not add up. as you know, as he pointed out today, i have a pen and i have a phone. he called it to 2014 a year election, both from his perspective the 2013 was your action, 2012 was your action. and unlike joe biden's 2010 summer of recovery, this is going to happen. you got this -- okay. river when he said there was more than one way to skin a cat?

right after the two-party election in 2010 he was asked about captain trade. remember, he could not even they can penetrate to the old democratic controlled congress. it died in the house, believe. no, it passed the house and died in the senate. but anyway, he could not get it passed. he said, there is more than one way to skin that cat. what is even doing? he has been in acting as if it were passed even though it hasn't. this is an important part. a founding fathers were kind of bright. they set up of very ornate system of checks and balances. one of them that has not been discussed enough is the agencies and departments and commissions and boards are creatures of the executive branch. but they are creations of the legislative. and they cannot -- the departments and agencies and boards and commissions cannot do anything unless and until congress writes a london says, hey, fcc, do this. epa, do that.

that serves two purposes. they can start regulating by fiat. two, the law that is the starting gun for the regulations set the boundaries in which they have to operate. if the agencies are operating all by themselves they don't have any boundaries. they go as far as they want. so that is what we have been dealing with the balance of lawyers. the will go through some of the examples. okay. and by the wake alleges to be clear, it is not just obama. harry reid, the way he runs the senate is governing by fiat as well. he is famous for filling the amendment three. you guys know what that means. that means a bill is supposed to have amendments given to it. by both majority party members in the minority party members. what reid does is files of bill for consideration and then kills the tree, meaning he fills all the amendments lots so that no

republican can get any amendment on any bill. so that is dictated by fiat. of course, we know he pull the nuclear option for judges. now, why did he do this? this ties into what obama is doing. remember, they said, we need to appoint more judges to the d.c. circuit. well, the d.c. circuit court is where almost every case goes. when someone sees an says an agency or board or commission or department is exceeding its authority they all go to the d.c. circuit. so harry reid pulled the new clear option, and immediately cram three ridiculous judges on to the d.c. circuit's to further that advantage. no and then of course the less than his son, and i have the number. the house passed at least 140 bills was your. none of them were taken up by harry reid. so when you hear a do nothing congress, it's a do nothing

senate. is not a do nothing congress. i'm not the biggest gainer fan in the world, though could be wrong. he has done a lot of good stuff, and they have done a lot of good stuff in the house. it goes to die in the senate. so again, it is ruling by fiat to say that congress is do nothing is to ignore the fact that harry reid is obama is recommending congress to get everything up to them artificially create this alleges need to violate the constitution of the executive branch into of these things unilaterally of course, we know that we just heard the arguments on the recess appointments barack obama appointed to the national labor relations board and others. that is another example of unilateral. no, i don't want to get into too many numbers, but there are some interesting numbers. for everyone law there are 56 regulations. and remember, that is what an agency and board and commission and department is creating.

they're generating regulations. for every one mall there are 56 regulations. this is my favorite. for every one person who goes to court for breaking a lot to people go to court for violating regulations. now, imagine trying to conduct business, remodel your home or fixture else or whenever with this regulation and you. of the five highest yearly editions to the federal register, which is a compilation of federal regulations, of the five highest years, four barack obama. he has said it every year. we are to deploy auricles to compliance to almost 2 trillion in 2012. we are down to 5 feet -- reroute a ton? well. i ran over. my fault. i have so much more to do.

look. i will summarize. and none of what you're saying. but he said kill the regulation. in the know what that meant. the point is he's been doing this for five years, doing it and an accelerated rate since the 2010 election, which she does help deliver. what we need to do is not just call him out on it like you said , we are the media now because the media does not do anything. we need to put the pressure on them, harry reid and the senate bill be amended to put the pressure on the in the house. and they're not doing their diligence and oversight over this monstrosity has extended by the federal government's. going forward in 2014 november we need to elect a lot more people who are a lot like us. to a better job of putting a

stop to this. thank you very much. [applause] well, i'm going to find my programs. someone stole my programs. i will be emcee for the rest of this. provided i can speak. up next -- and if we skeptical among dillydallying case you hadn't noticed. up next is to be doing from that heat @booktv atlanta tea party. co-founder. there she is. there she is. she is going to discuss the importance of engaging the rhino establishment. >> did afternoon, south carolina. [applause] >> hey. let me set much teleprompter up. but audiovisual. are you ready to go? okay.

greetings from their brothers and sisters in the struggle from georgia. we want you to know that you are not alone in your struggle to unseat -- i love the nsa spine center lindsay gramm. he is probably listening nell, the nsa. so i would since he is. i would like to have. [indiscernible] to senator lindsay gramm, senator mcconnell, representatives and speaker of the house john, karl rove in the republican establishment. i hope you like it.

chests. >> i thought you would like that song. [applause] i have been amazed at the recent war declared on the the tea party, the tea party activists. of take you back to 2009. i remember the first conference call we had to discuss the formation in the first event of the tea party. we planned the tea party protests on february 27, 2009. there were 22 of us. i can tell you, we were just as upset at the direction of the republican party under karl rove and george w. bush as we were at the democrats. and we found out that president bush and power of were not true

conservatives. there were big government republicans. they gave us the government's legislation like no child left beyond education that ted kennedy pushed. they gave us legislation like the prescription drug act. and then they gave us tarp, which is really starting the fury. the tea party pot started boiling over under bush and karl rove. it did not start under obama. how many in this room agree with me? we are upset with the policy. [applause] how many of you totally approve of the republican in congress? how many oppose it? [applause] so there was much discussion. so we decided instead of forming the third party would give the republican party a chance and seek to reform.

they made many grand promises to activists in this renta activists everywhere. we assured that it stated that keep their promise we would all the mcconnell. we are holding them accountable, and they don't like it. you hear john painter saying where radical. you hear corots, mitch mcconnell saying the same thing, declare war on us. u.s. chamber of commerce and big business. and i would tell them what is a radical about holding you accountable for your promises. my advice to them would be, don't make grand promises on the campaign trail and grand excuses once you get elected. [applause] because we are going to hold you accountable. we gave them another chance in

2010. we set the direction of the campaign. we put them back in power after americans had kicked them out on their rears. we gave them a second chance. how did it reward as? they attack us because we are holding them accountable for their policy. we are attacked. and we put them in power. i have a message to speaker billionaire, representative kantor and to representative ryan. if you give us an amnesty bill and you pass an amnesty bill to kowtow to the wishes of big business, make no mistake, we put you in power. by god, we will take you out of power in 2014. [applause] >> and it will do absolutely no good to wait until after

qualifying for the primaries. a primary does not let you. you have ticket elected in a general election. and if you pass this amnesty bill you will see a record number of independents qualifying for the general election to take you out of power. if you are going to vote like the democrats among the important issues like amnesty and immigration, then why do we what you in power to begin with? [applause] i was amazed, and based that the two-party complained for the disastrous election results in 2012. for over a year we rattled by karl rove and the talking heads of the republican establishment, mitt romney was the only candidate that can win. that he was our only chance to win this.

he faced historic losses. do they blame? the two-party. karl rove squandered a hundred million dollars of the nation's from big business and corporate sponsors. and the rnc squandered money. they ran a bad campaign. the candid that was nominated was not -- people did not see a big difference. ronald reagan made a famous pieces says that we have to nominate candidates where people can see bold colors and pastels. there was no candid it that was more pastel then in romney. they ran a poor campaign. the establishment candidates fare much worse then tea party candidates did and the congressional and senate elections, but instead of looking within to see the fact that obama campaigns ran a

fantastic get out the vote grand game. met romney and the republicans ran of very poor campaign. it was like watching the navy seals battle mall cops for the get out the vote effort. that is how bad it was. i was on the ground for that. so they are pointing the finger. they're blaming the tea party. and i can tell him, and my message stick karl rove and to the establishment is, if you stay on this same course karl rove would lead you to even greater disaster. tea party activists have come to understand that if you vote for the lesser of the evil, you are still voting for evil. [applause]

if you give us candid it's, declare war on our candidates and give us candidates that are in the pocket of big business, you give us candidates that are not constitutional conservatives and expect us to vote for them in november, you're going to have our rude awakening the day after election because enough is enough. >> people like lindsey graham, i love the nsa and amnesty for illegal immigrants. the establishment can say, no, we are the only chance at appealing obamacare. if you don't elect us, than democrats are not going to do it how many in this really just the republican -- kurt republican leaders in the senate and the house to actually do what they

say and repeal obamacare. raise your hands. how many don't trust them? so why should we believe anything that they say? they don't keep their word. they don't like being held accountable. but i can tell you, we have evolved beyond holding tea party in georgia we are beginning a precinct organization plan. we are going after a swing and independent voters. we formed a coalition with the largest grassroots conservatives grass-roots organization in georgia. in so we are going to be very competitive in the primary. we need to elect people to congress end to elective office that are not calling to be in the pocket of their big business, big corporation sponsors. they're going to say no to them.

it is a shame that we send elected officials to washington d.c. that care more about appeasing their corporate sponsors and to continue corporate cronyism and corporate welfare. they talk about our entitlement society and how we need to reform our welfare system entitlement system. in total agreement with that, but we also need to reform and stop foreign subsidies. we need to stop corporate welfare and corporate subsidies. we need to tell the government to stop kick -- picking winners and losers. [applause] subsidies and monopolies in the energy field of the government's way of picking winners and

losers, and it is unconstitutional. they need to stop it. they claim to be principled, yet when they have the decision between their principles and what their corporate sponsors benefactor's like they always go with their corporate benefactors and corporate sponsors instead of going and doing what is right for this country. and that has to stop. that is why big business, the u.s. chamber of commerce has declared war on the two-party. because we are saying no to corporate cronyism. we are saying no the corporate welfare. we are telling them that he stop. the government has been picking winners and losers. energy is one of the things that is the most heavily subsidized out there. they mean, if you want to get energy underweight, the solution

would be cut out all energy subsidies, let the energies compete in the free-market, and let the free market decide what energy is best cannot the government. end if you get to a website, if you have any doubt why the vote was cast, follow the money. and unfortunately that is the way it is. but even kim demint introduced a bill. jim demint is an unlikely before jim demint left the senate. he said that the government should stop picking winners and losers in the energy field. and he introduced a bill to cut out of energy subsidies for coal, nuclear, wind, solar, a natural gas. he said the government is to stop picking winners and losers.

the free market is to decide that. never even made it to the floor or out of community. the have to excuse me. i have allergies. i can tell -- that i can tell you that we have since many people to washington d.c. there on the campaign trail, there warriors, principal. and the promise that they will go to d.c. and be a voice for you. once they go up there once they get up there and they start checking the potomac cool it when they turn from warriors to win this. [applause] and all the sudden they're doing

the business and doing the bidding of big corporations and their gutters instead of lettuce, red for this country. i am encouraging to turn our family farmers pledged their live, honor, and liberty and sacredness to reach other. and i pledge that everyone in this room, turn to your neighbors and make the same pledge to a pleasure life. your fortunes and your sacred honor to work, to unseat bynum number one lindsay gramm and this next election. [applause] they keep. [applause] that will make a statement. we have done smart.

you have friends. >> i will only quibble with one thing. the government does not pick winners and losers. pixels is at the expense of winners. as of pick the winner yet. and the founding fathers did not make the federal government of venture-capital firm. now, if we commit the hundred million dollars that he wrote that < collected together and buy nbc, that would be productive to beat up next here her epic the enemies of the.

can we just talk about a? >> thanks. i've messed in washington and the streets of florida and the south carolina. it is great to be here. it is great to be back in south carolina, the state that produced jim demint, one of my great euros. [applause] the state that has produced the people there about to unseat and ceram. [applause] it is a very, very worthy goal. look, i was a say, was because little bit. and join the kutcher for three months. they give me 90 days. if i stay for 91i get every cell phone, health care. but people always ask me, what do i care about america. what i come to this country from the zealand to give -- to do

something in your country. there are two basic reasons. the first is simple granted. my country was only saved of world war ii by the use sacrifice of your fathers and uncles and grandfathers at the battles of of canal and that currency in they're wake. that still resonates in my country today. [applause] now, i live right down at the bottom of the south pacific. people that they think we're safe. look, folks, if your country goes of the direction des alcoa dobrynin military, china is moving to our region no. there are trading the fijian military. tom is almost a client state in will be soon. a few months ago the australian minister of defence was often

china for talks. of the top chinese general said to them canal is the day for a strategy to be deduced. he won an american gun father or chinese godfather? if you're smart you'll choose china because we are the growing power in the region. all around the world, folks, your ellis are being forced to make a choice. countries like israel in great britain and germany in canada and japan, they're all basically phreaking of because of the they see coming out of your white house. they see that your president seems to love the bad guys of the world more than he loves them and that is causing huge is stability, folks. you know, you have japan which is now rearming. it was supposed to rearm after world war ii. they cannot trust obama to protect them from north korea and china.

you look how many of your allies climbed aboard when obama was to go in to syria. could the way to get involved to record them? the saying they should have, but that shows where american prestige is going. you know, vladimir program, the old kgb men, has spent most of his career trying to destroy our country and is now looked on as more of a statement that your president. you have is well with respect to the law, no friends left in the middle east. they may be forced to take desperate measures to defend themselves and those measures could put us into world war three. and all because of your president, the man with the nobel peace prize in his trophy cabinet. so this is where it is going. this is not just about america. this is the free world stake here. because if america goes, we'll go. fish faugh : free country will

remain standing. russia and china and iran and north korea in nicaragua and cuba and the islamic regime will carve up this planet a much themselves. don't think about custer rica, folks. don't even think about new zealand. if you go we'll go. del, i have a book on the market . it's called the enemies within. communists, socialists and addresses. 750 pages to read and i vowed to make a smaller than the last one, but it is actually bigger because those bloody commies just kept on coming. [applause] they could nubbly that jim cliburn. ticket of leave of people like that. but the book is about is the big secret of modern communism.

in that was borrowed, i think, of the devil because the cleverest in the devil ever did was to convince people he doesn't exist. though when the communists and the last 20 years, folks? they don't exist. if they do, they are no longer a threat. well, they are a threat to the very near congress. and the other thing the book is about is the other big secret of modern communism. it is not an atom bombs, spies, or anything like that. it is the ability of a tiny marxist leninist party to, by using the labor unions and people under their control, to influence the policy direction of your government. so you were very lucky in this country for a long time because your labor unions were controlled by hard-core anti communists liked george meany and lane kirkland. today 1995, that all changed.

that was the year the democratic socialists of america, your largest marxist group took over the afl-cio. when they took over the union's they put the men showed sweeney in as president. that was the point they took over the democratic party. and that was the point that the moderates like joe lieberman and people like that were no longer welcome. it is not the democratic party of harry truman anymore or even jfk. it is now the democratic party of marx and lenin. the union's control of and the communists control the unions. they make a policy. the communists had a policy. but the comprehensive immigration reform commitment be obamacare, cap and trade gimmickry energy, whenever it is , they make a union policy and the unions make a democratic party policy. if you want to know what the

democrats are going to do tomorrow read the people's world today. communist party paper. because what is in their paper today will be on the floor of your house tomorrow. that is selling works. that is so small groups of people, less than 20,000 card-carrying communists in your country. that is have they took control valerians can dictate policy for more than 300 million people. that is headed do it. on give you an example. comprehensive immigration reform you are told by people like mr. gramm and fellow comrades like the man from arizona, mr. mccain, that this is doing to begin for the gop. we get these people immigration citizenship, voting rights. it will start to the republican. yes, right.

the have a bridge from brooklyn human be interested to bid of the started back in the 50's with the men called per corona, a communist party. he was the one that said that the emigrants rights movement. he set up a whole bunch of organizations in southern california, and he trained a whole lot of people. several of them with the sedate, people like antonio will address the. he is a marxist. wedtech cuba as a human. he turned los angeles into a century city. totally change the demographics of that city, the emirate's flooded it gamaliel's london. one of his close comrades, another man trained by corona to mcgill said deal, head of the california house. he was the man that put the dream act through the cave

illegals a whole bunch of rights in california. another one of the comrades was maria elena toronto, currently head of the california labor movement. she is the one behind the massive labor union registration drives and get out the vote efforts that have turned california completely blew. all on the backs of illegal immigrants. this was not an accident, folks. every one of those people were marxist and had a plan. they locate your electoral system and they know that they can control your states. that gives them control of your electoral college, and that gives them the power to pick your president's. and you looked california. once the reddish purple state. notice solid blue. even orange county, the most conservative region in your country once is now purple.

all done deliberately by marxists using illegal immigrants, using voter registration drives a multitude of communities, plan. now, the head of the immigration reform movement in this country right now is a man called el affirmative. it wasn't until recently the executive vice president of the aclu union piece served on the obama lead to immigration committee. he is driving the bill that went through your senate, and he is working with people like role and luis gutierrez of of illinois to try and get a bill to your house. he is the men. he was also the man. now, take you back a little bit to prove the point. which organization in this country 20 years ago was the most hard-core anti illegal immigrant?

which organization was constantly lobbying congress to increase penalties for anybody who employed illegal aliens? the unions. the afl-cio. .. dedicated to socialist revolution. illegal immigrants are not going for unionized workers but they are real good for socialist revolution. and that is why the afl-cio is now so hard-core pushing them.

the man who got the unions to reverse their policy back in 2000 at their conference in louisiana was mr. alastair medina and member of democratic socialists of america, a marxist. why does he want it? he wants more members but the real big deal is this. he let the cat out of the bag at a progressive conference in washington d.c. two years ago. he got up in front of the comrades and said this. immigration reform is our number one priority for the progressive moment. in 2008 latinos voted 70% for mr. obama and candidates. if we give these people citizenship and voting rights they will stand by obama.

this will give us at least 8 million more democratic party votes. this will give us a governing majority not just for the next few election cycles but for the foreseeable future. in other words, a permanent democratic one-party state. if they get those 8 million votes folks, texas goes blue. even george or will go blue. most of the south west will go blue at if you take the electoral college votes from texas you will seek the most popular staving combined those with california and it makes it mathematically impossible for the republicans to ever win another election. it cannot be done, folks. you have got traitors like lindsey graham and john mccain telling you this is good for the gop.

it's good for the chamber of commerce, for now. it's good for the unions, but it ain't good for america and it certainly ain't good for the republicans. and you have to oppose it, folks. [applause] you have to stand against. the bill would have been passed long ago without you guys. you know that. that brings me to a point. things are pretty tough in america right now. you could lose your freedom permanently and this thing going to be like europe. if they have their way this is going to be like venezuela and then cuba. this is faithful loan socialist revolution that you are undergoing. don't make any mistake about that. i will did to press you folks with that because you hear it a good time you know? i think in 2008 the left thought

they had a slam dunk. they had the house, they had the white house, they have the center. all their ducks were in a row and they had their agenda all written out and they were going to take up middle america once and for all. they were going to transform your nation. in 2009 something miraculous happens. you guys came out of left field or should i say right field. [laughter] you taken by surprise, folks. you took me by surprise. you came out of nowhere and you stood on your constitution and you marched and you blog blogged and agitated and you e-mail the nu phone banks and you took back that house in 2010. [applause] it wasn't the gop. you know that you to get back

and had you not done that, where would we be now? those eight million illegals would be voting in the next election. obamacare would be -- captain. , green jobs, the whole thing. obama knows that you stop them. i was at a progressive conference in washington d.c. last year the institute for policy studies that basically writes the obama platform for them and i mingled with the marxists. because i wanted to know what they were talking about. you know what they were talking about all day? it bored me, i got sick of it. you guys, tea party this, tea party that, they stopped us

here, they did this, they held us up. they talked about nothing else all day. nothing. [applause] because you have got to understand folks you saved your country. you saved your country and gave it a second chance. and that's a pretty important thing, people. now where are you now? you have been betrayed. you have been let down. you have been marginalized. you have been criticized and you are still fighting. where are you now, folks? i want you to think back to 1976. you had the carter years. no, you hadn't happened yet. 76 a man came out of california, ronald reagan. he stood for the values that you stand for. he stood for the same things and

he articulated them so well. hundreds of thousands of people young and old got behind him. they loved his message. you have been losing your freedom, republican and democrat, republican democrat for years and he was sick of it and so are you. [applause] you are telling me he didn't change this country for the better? [applause] they tell me all the time you have to give the young people involved. you have got to get the young people and you have to have a code trendy candidate with liberal values and a nice haircut to do that. ronald reagan was a pretty old guy. i got real airports all the time and i have had 16-year-old girls with -- saying wasn't he great?

the point is young people love idealists and all who stand for something. that is why they love rand paul, you know? [applause] so reagan, people like you put reagan into power and he did so much. right now they are carter on steroids. everything carter screwed up these people are doing deliberately. and they mean business. there will not be another turn for republicans or any other conservative party, ever. this is it. this is the turning point. so to win the next election, there is only one political force that can stop the democrats and take them out. whether you like it or not that is the gop but the real

important question is the character of that gop. now they give you a fat void from new jersey for a jeb bush, you are going to lose, right? you were going to lose and even if they when you still lose because progressivism rolls on. but, i think you people have the power to make something different happened. i can't pick your candidate but this is what i would do if i was a man like ted cruz, okay? [applause] now to win the next election you need every single segment of the coalition plus. you can't afford to lose the libertarians for the fiscal

conservatives are the social conservatives or the 2 million republicans who stayed home last time. and you cannot afford to lose or ignore the four to 6 million evangelical christians who didn't even vote. [applause] karl rove blames you. he lost the election and he blames you. now what would i do if i was a man like ted cruz or someone of that caliber? i would be wanting to put that coalition together now, now, before christie or anyone else gets a head of steam up and blows things for you. now you have all these people out there, folks who are just waiting for leadership, waiting for inspiration who want to believe in something. if i was a man like ted cruz this is what i would do. i would go out now and start picking my team.

i would go to someone like alan westin say i want you as my vp. [applause] now to get those libertarians those young libertarians i would go to someone like grandpa and i would say i'm going to make you secretary of the treasury and you can do what you dam well want to the federal reserve and the irs. [applause] and for the energy voters sarah palin secretary of energy. drill baby, drill. jim bridenstine secretary of defense. john barton secretary of state. ambassador to the united nations, no one. [applause]

dr. ben carson, secretary of health and human services. mark low then attorney general. [applause] and what christian voters to motivate them they care about the education of their children more than on most anything. they love homeschooling. i would say to them you vote for me and i will make mr. david arden secretary of education. [applause] now would you guys get motivated by a team like that? do you think it could when?

would you be enthused and just get all your friends and get so wound up about something like that? and is it possible? its possible folks and you can make it happen. you can get behind these candidates and take no prisoners with the gop. you get in there and just take their party back and make sure they give you your team and a team that you can be inspired by can you imagine folks, all those people are out there that are proven leaders, the grassroots are out there. there've never been more people that understand the u.s. constitution and american exceptionalism than at any time since the revolution. if you can put them together you can win this thing. and not only when it and you

could go way beyond reagan and restore the constitution of your country and put the federal government back in its place. [applause] i know how tough it is folks. this is not easy. there is no guarantee of success but i'm asking for two more years. if you give it everything you've got for two more years at the very least you're going to get is the ability to look your children in the eye and say i gave it everything. is that not worth something? [applause] and if you win it folks, you are not just giving them the country

you inherited, you will give them a country even better. is that not worth fighting for? [applause] i'm just about finished. i know how tough it is, folks. you have a big job on your hands. i was up in morristown last year in new jersey and i went around the big encampment were 10,000 troops came through the winter of 1780. by the end of the winter there were 6000 left. their officers were being max their dogs and the troops were being max there had -- we are in crucial times and we have defied faifa then and we have to be -- fight now. you have a decision tonight. do i work and fight or do i give up? the penalties are terrible if you don't.

we look back at those founding fathers and we can see their place in history. you think when i was starting in morristown they could see the amazing country? they had no idea, folks. they just cared about their next meal and look what they achieved. we can see their place in history looking back from here. how about looking at here place in history lacks there'll be some kid in 200 years in front of a high school class in this town in civics class and he will say something like this to his friends. hey guys look we studied history. we studied those american revolutions. when everybody thought america was done, people stood up against all the odds and they took back their constitution and they restored their republic. they gave us the liberty and prosperity we enjoy today.

well guess what, folks? i did some family research and i went back to my family background and do you know what? i found out my great, great, great, great grandma and granddaddy were in the south carolina tea party. [laughter] [applause] so how about that, folks? so i want to say you have a place in history and you have the world on your shoulders. you can do this. so i want to say thank you very much for having me here. thank you for what you are doing. god loves america. thank you. [applause] [applause]

>> he now we are going to start with a tradition. he is going to go in the room back there. we are going to do a question and answer session with trevor after each speaker. also another housekeeping note. there is a water station set up just outside where the elevators in the stairs are so you don't dehydrate. yes, sir max? up next is this gentleman here. bob menges from the convention of states projects and he's going to talk about -- my name is bob menges and i'm the south carolina state director for the national convention of state projects. i have been teaching and speaking on the constitution for the last 15 years and inevitably whenever i do that i always end up relating back to it in the

thing that takes place at the virginia ratification convention in june of 1788. at that convention there were -- raucous and rancorous debate going on between the two factions. the federalist and anti-federalist and as you probably well know the federalists were those that were trying to work on the amendments for the articles of confederation and those folks understood that there needed to be a stronger central government. today we recoil at that but that is what we understood because of where the articles were. the anti-federalist understood the need for stronger federal government that they were also extremely leery of investing too much power in the federal government. it so at that debate, heated debate. a lot of times people tell me politics needs to go back to a time when it was more civil. if you look back at history it had never happened and it was a huge rancorous debate at that convention. a gentleman stood up and as a matter of fact it was such a heated debate patcher candy and

and -- henry and william randolph almost had a duel. a gentleman stood up in the midst of that rancor and he said something very profound. in fact it was so profound i had to look back at my business car. he said an enlightened citizenry will never suffer what was established for security to be to an act of tyranny. one more time. an enlightened citizenry will never suffer what was established for its security in the united states constitution to be to an active tyranny. when you look at the statement up there on the board right now you see two words that stand out enlightened citizenry. you are the enlightened citizenry. you understand what's going on with the electorate out there. we are not teaching the constitution. we are not teaching separation of powers and we have an unenlightened or legislative -- and i don't mean that in a nasty way.

it's unknowing citizenry for the most part and he said if we have an unknowing citizenry, if we have those that understand and is talking about the rule of law and the constitution they will never let was established be into an act of tyranny. the folks that know that i'm involved with the project one of the questions that comes up most often is if you are involved with that effort it they are not obeying it now why would they obey any changes to its? that's a good question on the surface but when you look at the question there is a little bit of misunderstanding of what's going on. right now we know that our federal elected officials by far for disobeying the constitution. we know that so we have to ask ourselves how are they able to get away with it? what i would submit to you is 80 to 100 years, decades, 100 years organized constitution has been contorted and radically. the reason those guys can get away with their --

constitution because of what has happened. when i teach the constitution i teach constitutional law. i teach my students original intent. that's a only way to interpret the united states constitution. i taken back to the founding documents in the federalist papers in and the notes from the ratification to madison's daily notes of the convention in philadelphia. we know what the original intent is. it's right there. but we don't do that anymore. we have activist judges and not just the judges. we talked about one of our senators that is done i frequently a while ago and have done that and because of that they were able to get away with it. let me just tell you this. we know what the problem is. the problem is with the federal government that is out of control that will not relinquish power. i'm trying to be respectful of my time but i'm trying to get this in. when i look at what is happening you can categorize major abuses

perpetrated by the federal government. all three of ranches are attacking state sovereignty. i would go so far is as to submit to that the three branches of government are in collusion with each other today. as a matter fact the three parties are in collusion with each other today. we have a huge problem. you know about the out-of-control spending and debt would let me show you this. the federal agencies under the executive branch. what i have here is a picture posted by one of the good guys about a week ago on his face with page and it's a bookshelf that he had one of his staffers print out the 80,000 pages added to the federal register last year. as he pointed out to you they call them regulations but they are statutory law. we have federal agency set up under the executive branch in violation of the constitution. for many years you have the department of energy the department of education and the one place i would differ with

mr. loudon and the wonderful speech he gave is i would abolish the department of education if we have that. some of these agencies, honest people can dispute whether we need those functions but here's what you need to understand. faceless bureaucrats behind closed doors or writing regulations that are lost that have no accountability to you. article i section 1 of the constitution says all legislating power will be vested in a congress so when congress sets up agencies under the executive and they like to do this. that way they tell you you can't blame them when the president what does what joe said a joe said the lawall echo takes his pen and passes an executive order. that to me is the ranking government that's out of control. the cold hard truth is what i have up there. washington will never voluntarily relinquish power no matter who we elect. i'm not advocating we need to

continue to work to elect good people to federal office and we have some great candidates running against lindsey graham. ladies and gentlemen we have a provision that has been given to us and we have to open up another front. the time has come for the states and the citizens to be proactive in taking this power back. the solution. we need a solution as big as a problem and if you are here today you know the problem is enormous. we are not fooling ourselves. it's an enormous problem. we need a solution as big as that. what i want to tell you is the framers from 226 years ago are screaming to us. they gave us a provision within the constitution. i know there are fears out there but i'm going to tell you when you look at this there are two proposed amendments to the united states constitution. let's just look at the first one. all 27 amendments to the federal constitution have been written this code right here, article v. two-thirds of each party

proposed amendments and they send them off to the states. there are 50 and if you listen to our present there are 57. the constitution says three force of those states or 38 states must ratify those proposed amendments to become part of the constitution. there is a second mode that is almost identical to the first mode in article v. whereby two-thirds of the state legislatures applied, apply for an article v convention of the states that is literally, if you look at the chart it's almost exactly the same except washington d.c. is not involved except for the convention. any conservative should a four and run in washington d.c. but when you look at this it's the same thing. they propose amendments. if we are successful the convention would not change one would have taxed in the united states constitution.

they could only propose amendments just like the congress can. those amendments are sent to the 57 states, i'm sorry 50 states. therefore consequently only 13 states could leave them alone and nothing would happen with those amendments proposed. here is what is even more important. if you want to understand article v you must look at the history. when i teach the constitution when i teach limited government i teach from it the vocal world view. i have a class called the american cost to shin making government. i don't care what anybody tells you, i would submit to you the vast majority were bible believing christians. even if they are right i would submit to you, they are not even if they are right most of them have much more of a biblical worldview the most christians do today because they were brought up under the bible. they understood the vocal principles. the reason we have separation of powers is because sanders to the biblical doctrine and the new

power had to be separated. it couldn't be centralized but this is very important. this right here, the philadelphia convention that took up the drafting of the united states constitution met from may until september of 1787 through that summer and from june 11 up to june 11 was the point where they drafted an amendment process for the constitution. at that point article v was drafted and it had the first mode i showed you a local whereby only the united states congress could propose amendments. george mason stood up on june 11 and he said wait a minute. he said hold on. he said at the national legislature is only way for proposing of amendments he said should the national legislature become oppressive, is he speaking to us today? he said if it becomes oppressive. then the people will have no recourse.

so when you get to september 11, when you get to september 11, two days before the convention ends george mason stands up and he says listen, if the people do not have a process and if the government becomes abusive and oppressive he says lessig come to violence the people native recourse and the second was submitted for-profit -- and the convention of states processes a national efforts and at least 40 states -- can i please finish this? the grassroots machine and at least 40 states. we know there are 50/50 states and the presences there are 57. we are shooting for 40. introduce identical bills for were in article v that but a shin to call for the exact same subject.

i could talk to more about that but we want to propose amendments to look at the power and jurisdiction of the federal government for his subject matter. the convention of states has extremely strong grassroots organizations. those that have been in the tea party for any length of time will recognize that name. mark mackler was the founder of the national tea party hatreds in 2009. this man knows grassroots. his partner in founding this was a guy by the nathan of michael ferris. he homeschooled my kids for 16 years. michael ferris was the founder of the homeschool association 30 years ago this year. it's one of the largest grassroots foundation. he's also one of the finest constitutional scholars in the nation and i called him a mentor of mine. the plan is to build a viable operation in-house