he is very careful, very cautious and conservative when he writes but when he gets in front of a microphone he says me and my big mouth. he sticks his foot in his mouth a lot and trouble when he gives speeches. in 1985 we paid them $2000 and now he gets $25,000. >> hi there. you mentioned that the current trend in journalism is investigative journalism and it's its drying up and things like that. i am wonder if you are for me with was the work of james o'keefe is somewhat more entrepreneurial young journalist and do you see any heir apparent in another seymour hersh out there? >> to say that sy is the only great investigative journalist in american does a disservice to

a lot of people out there doing tremendous work. jeremy scahill and woodward and hersh. as i said i'm optimistic about journalism. i'm optimistic that we will continue -- we will continue to see new waves of people. whether anyone can persist and have as many scoops and stories as seymour hersh, that i am not sure. certainly there will be tremendous investigative reporting and investigative journalism out there. the internet has given us all sorts of possibilities. what is a little bit weird is no deletes his material and it gets right up there. in 1975 he would have leaked that material to a journalist and now the direct publications

can use it. in some ways it's the nature of traditional journalism that has been turned upside down. some of that is good and some of it is not good. >> maybe i miss remembering that the articles in "the new yorkere u.s. would be invading iran and didn't he take a strong stand on that? i am wondering if you know anything about that? >> he wrote a number of times that the bush administration had very specific and was making very specific plans for an invasion in iran. that never happened and of course he got it wrong. what i say in the book and what a number of people told me is when his articles kept coming out in "the new yorker" it was

impossible for them to do an invasion. what he really was writing about were the plans he was making -- that were making for a possible invasion. he said my sources are telling me there there are plans and here's what the plans look like. my sense is, someone asked sy why do you still do journalism? one of the things he said was that there are sources who need me. they need someone to go to to be all to get out their story. i think in some ways he was getting out the story at the middle level and there were people in the white house or were never sent anxious about the possibility it's possible he didn't -- with his stories. [inaudible] >> it's a good question and i don't know the answer to that now. a month ago he wrote and article in the review of books the first

he has written a couple of years and he wrote about the fact that when syria had its sarin gas attack that killed 2500 people the obama administration blamed syria. he said his sources were telling him there was other evidence indicating that it wasn't the syrian government and there were other people in and around syria that could have been responsible and they cherry-picked the intelligence because it was much more politically expedient. "the new yorker" turned that article down which was shocking. has his relationship with "the new yorker" and it? side curr said if he took three-quarters of the editors and the world and threw them off or bridge we would all be better off so he never got along with editors. it's been an adjusting them fraternal force.

whether that relationship has now ruptured i don't know. >> were there any other questions? >> thank you all for being here. if you want to bring your book up front i will get it signed for you. thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> women's history for beginners is the booktv book club

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click on book club to enter the chat room. novel about life in see -- he was a child soldier in the civil war and he are wrote about his experience in the memoir "a long way gone." this is about an hour. [applause] >> thank you. thank you very much. i truly -- what i want to do borrow a book from somebody, is it possible? thank you very much. [laughter] i appreciate