>> there are good biographies of people like robert smalls and they are all on the footnotes and quite often there are dissertations that have been published and is so they are very good they are just kind of flying under the radar but they are not well known. if you go to -- this bookstore website for example robert smalls and you can find books like henry white. certainly the textbooks are getting better in the reconstruction, and again it isn't fair to pick on the textbooks in the 1970s. one doesn't want to know what is in the current textbook because of course it's kind of rewriting your own standards. part of it is popular memory and culture and the last part of the book talks about gone with the wind where they try to write the early 20th century call troll bore and that is kind of a

classic image people have theirs a scene in gone with the wind there is a carpetbagger and a black activist sitting in a carriage and at least they are allowed to kind of your dress with dignity but they are dressed in this outlandish way and what i found interesting as my students have almost never seen gone with the wind but if you ask them what happened in atlanta, they will all tell you that it was burned. not really com really, the waree burned and a few warehouses and of course in the movie because they are building the king kong set in southern california. that's what you are watching for in gone with the wind is king kong's wall and into popular culture they do not go away. there was a tnt film about the assassination of lincoln and the final call that you are watching is he died in a nasty radicals s take over and want to punish the south and this is not the

1960s, this was maybe ten years ago made by a major television network info the ideas are still out there and it is our job to kind of combat them. we've got him a terrible reputation of the carpetbaggers. they are evangelicals, they are teachers, they are decent dedicated people. anyone could make $60 a month teaching school and the bureau paid $15 you are brutalized by the angry southern democrats. they are not doing that for the money they are doing it becausee they be leaving changing america and again their spirit has told them to go forth and fix the world and if you really want to steal money after the war they steal more than they could ever make in the south which again looks like the dark side of the moon so the fact that these

images still remain and are troubling. >> that's going to be eight. thank you so much. [applause] >> there are books to purchase at the front of the store please hold your chair and get your book signed and line up on my left please. >> and audible conversations [inaudible conversations]

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