>> look for these titles and bookstores in the coming weeks and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and booktv.org. >> johnny walker is the codename of an iraqi translator who helped the navy seals root out terrorists in iraq following the insurgency. johnny walker accompanied the seals on over a thousand missions and is credited with saving dozens of them along with many iraqis. next, jim defelice and johnny walker talk about mr. walker's experiences. this is about an hour. >> first of all, thank you, everybody for coming out. we really appreciate the support and were going to kind of wing it a little bit, keep it easy and will just take it where it goes, right? a lot of people have been asking

where, why, how did this book come about, why did you write this book. and i've to say that the books actually start in the way, i've been working on this book for almost four years now. while i was working on american sniper which i wrote with chris giles, another great american, one night chris and i were hanging around in his den and were looking at some pictures. the picture came up of some guys were about to go out on a seals mission and endorse one was a lot taliban the other people in the room. and growing slightly different uniform. and i said, who is that big guy? chris looked at me and, well, it's the only iraqi i ever trusted with a gun.

that's pretty interesting. tell me about that. told me that was the translator they call the johnny walker and chris letang about some of the missions. i have to say that i write fiction and the story that chris was telling me that is so much more remarkable and more fictional and more thrilling than the stores i've ever come up with. i almost stopped writing novels. we ended up putting john in the book, in "american sniper." he sent about a paragraph. we chang changed again and his background because we were very weary at the time, we thought, johnny, we thought you were still in iraq. our book came out, "american sniper" came out and chris was actually doing a book signing i think in california. and johnny went out and just showed up. and as chris told the story

later on, crist said, i called him up. i thought he was dead. and called them up and made a stand up in front of the room and told everyone the truth, that johnny walker, chris kyle is known as the man who saved a lot of seal lies, a lot of iraqi lives, and chris told that crowd, told me nobody could that johnny walker saved more seals, more americans and more iraqis than chris ever did. it's just a remarkable story, not sure if it was it the next day, but soon after chris got hold of our publisher, our editor actually, peter hubbard who's really been a big help for us and said, peter, you are doing this book, boy. this man is really important. that's kind of where we started. johnny, why don't you tell us a little bit, you were born in a

city in transit? >> my first time, i want to thank all of you guys are all of your support, and i apologize for my broken english, but jim will explain that. i want to thank matt, that guy, imagine in 2003 in mosul, and this is the first time i saw them after all these years. >> matt, why don't you stand up? matt is an army veteran and -- [applause] >> really put himself on -- put his life on the line for us. so tell us about yourself. >> i born in 1964 in mosul grew up like a normal child and play basketball, high jump, and all my dreams at that time. i want to live in america one of the days.

and, unfortunately, marriage and having kids and wife, and this was like my dream disappeared. [inaudible] i didn't have any chance. and in my heart, this is wrong. i deserve this chance. i am the first one for this job. so anyway, by accident i found work with military police be dished wait, wait, wait a second. the problem with dealing with john is john is just a little too humble. here's what actually happened. he had been trying to get jobs for quite a while to support his family and there were no jobs. he was working with the americans, at that time the americans were, you know, very honest because they liberated his country. so johnny tried to get a job, didn't get a job. we going to more detail in the book but basically he couldn't get a job and he was down -- he

had enough money to buy a pack of cigarettes or hits kids lunch. or a taxi to go back. he decided to heck with a taxi, i can walk. they kids can have lunch and i can buy two cigarettes or three cigarettes, whatever it was. he bought the cigarettes, he's walking home in mosul which is not the greatest place, and all of a sudden he comes upon some mps and the discussion with some iraqi. tell us about that. >> so we are walking to like, by accident i walk on this site, and the three females, they walk on the right side. and i hid them, they talk bad things about the american forces. this is what i need, i have not enough money to support my kids, and right now i'm going to end up fighting with military police without anything.

part of our tradition, i have to protect our women no matter what. so anyway, i'm thinking like that's what i should do, so i come up with a plan. i had to go to the military police and ask him, hey, guys, can you let me fix this issue? they give me this chance, and i'll try to make those e-mails avoid any issue with the american police, and at the end of the night everyone is going to be happy spent so basically you're a marriage counselor? [inaudible] >> anyway, when the females start coming up, it's nighttime and i look after them and i know them, i know the background of those females, it looked like what are you guys doing? so when they look at to me, it looks like, oh, we are so sorry, we didn't mean to do anything. and i told them, you know what?

you have one option. yet to go right down to your house or you guys can have something bad with me. so the sergeant when he sees what i did with the female and fix the issue, he asked me if i can work with them. i said you know what, i would love it. yeah, why not? at that time one of the boyfriends of the girls, one of the girls, he came to me and he started talking -- [inaudible] >> johnny just, johnny just asked if he could use a bad word. spin we're in new york. [laughter] >> so anyway, he came to me and he started to me hard time and talking bad word about me and my family. so it looks like, you know what? i'm done with you. so i catch them and i beat him, his face blood, whatever.

ribs broken, and the military police told the, you know what? stop, just leaving. you work for us now. >> just a sidenote on that story. sergeant byrd recently have been out of contact with johnny for pretty much since over years after that, and just recently because of this book got in touch with johnny again. that's been one of the great sidenote of this whole process. a lot of the men and women who served with john in iraq have been getting in touch with them, really heartwarming story. johnny went to work with the mps as an interpreter, and he made such a great name for himself that when the seals came to mosul a few months later on, they wanted, they had already heard of the toughest

interpreter in iraq. and the asked for johnny walker. sergeant berg was very reluctant to give you up, and eventually give. [inaudible] >> so you started working with the seals. and johnny, did you know what seals were at first? >> no. so the first time when i hear about seals, it is like what does that mean? i couldn't find anywhere and the english at the time -- [inaudible] [laughter] i had no clue what i'm dealing with, and he was like what i'm doing lex i love america but those people are scary and different clothes, and i remember the first mission i worked with them, like the guy who i walked with him just like, stop, left, right, go. and i don't know --

[inaudible] so they reached the door and i have no review, i have nothing. so looks like, oh, my gosh we're under attack so i start to run away, and the guy who, he ran after me and he catch me and he said we just reached the door. >> now, what you didn't tell them though is that on that first mission, johnny, johnny showed up, they told johnny that he was not allowed to bring his weapon. but ordinarily in iraq pretty much every male had at least generally and a.k., but could have some weapon. so johnny, what did you bring on that first mission? >> knife. spent johnny brought a knife, and how big was that not? wasn't this big or this big? >> this big. >> i heard the sword from the original guy but it was more like this big.

but johnny started going with the seals and it was one incident where that kind of cemented your relationship with the seals. you want to talk about that one where the man was wounded? >> so one of the missions, you know, i'm kind of new and i don't know what's going on. but it looked like i could support my family, so anyway, we went to one of the targets and we want to take that house as my permission towards election next day. so we went -- [inaudible] and there is this guy from that house, they start shooting us. and at that time i have no weapon, nothing with me and i saw one of the guys, i hear got injured in his arm. so it looks like what i should do? and the only thing i knew is i

want to say them. so i went, i grabbed him and i don't know if i going to lose my life or not, but it's worth it to do something right. so i got him out and there is -- [inaudible] i cannot mention his name. he says, i want that guy. so from that time they start trusting me and they consider me as a brother and part of the seals community. >> actually the significance there is there were a lot of people that were interpreters or translators with the american forces. often they were kept back behind the lines when there was any sort of combat. johnny is being a little bit modest gain that story. according to the seals were there, johnny ran forward as there was gunfire going on. johnny grabbed him, brought him back, and they were quite impressed at that point. and from that point on, johnny was actually a brother to the

seals. now, i think it can be difficult for people who are not seals to understand what an honor that is. i mean, you can hang out with seals, you can be even, you know, from even another special forces, another special operations guy and not be considered a brother. johnny, they trusted him with their backs. what does that feel like, johnny? i mean, you know, with these americans do you have known. how did you feel towards them speaks i don't know. i feel like they're my family and they do good job to my country so i will do anything to help them make their mission succeed. it's a huge battle for me to get -- [inaudible] under an officer and everyone, and everyone who came to me and support me in different ways.

>> now, johnny started in mosul but the seals actually had missions across the country. and so, johnny, you've traveled quite a bit, right? you into the -- name some of the places you were at. >> we went to the cities and towns and at the end i end up -- [inaudible] spent baghdad at the time is kind of like going to miami, right? a really nice place. >> at that time it was like huge firefight between sunni and sh shia. [inaudible] they cannot do anything by themselves so they need all

resources from seals to like protect them. and from there we start, like, targeting bad guys, militia and remus. >> just to explain, in islam, as i think a lot of people know, though not necessary everyone, you can make a lot of different divisions. one of the major divisions is between sunni and shia. the interesting thing, johnny, what are you and what's your wife's? >> so i am sunni, and my wife, she is shia. and one of the days we sit, and it look like i come up with a crazy idea. i want to ask my kid who's going to be sunni and who's going to be shia? i told my wife, and i dreamed it that night, i thought hey, can you bring the kids, i want to talk with them? so my kids came and they showed

up in the room. i say we are democratic family and we're going to make vote who's going to be sunni companies going to be shia. so they asked me, daddy, are you shia? no, i'm sunni. mom, she said i'm shia. they all raised their hands and said we are shia. [laughter] spent the interesting thing is that before, not only for the american war but before the kind of sunni awakening, you lived in mosul, and while there were sunni and shia, mosul happens to be in there where there's more sunni. there wasn't as much, but wasn't religious animosity. there weren't people who are shooting at each other because they were sunni or shia. unfortunately, what's the situation now, or what was the situation with the american? >> it to look like almost the country divided by sunni cities, by shia cities and kurdish

places. >> basically, now there's lots of, there's a lot of violence. now, johnny's wife was in baghdad -- no, i'm sorry, excuse me. johnny's wife was in mosul and you were in baghdad, and can you tell us what -- you didn't actually know what happened. tell us about that story. >> so at the beginning after they kill my brother and they start targeting me, so we told everyone we are, i run away to syria or jordan so no one can harm my family. anyway, they threatened my wife they sent her, like letter with bullet that means she'll be the next target, they will kill her. she had no option. next day she did everything and she moved to baghdad spent way to second, there's a lot more to

that story. first of all, she had -- johnny's wife is an incredible woman, and we go into it in more detail in the book, but she was, she was threatened quite a lot and thought she was going to die at several points. finally, at that episode when she got the bullet, she decided she just had to go to baghdad because that was where johnny was. so to this point john his relatives had been protecting his wife, and she just decides she just had to go. so she packed the kids up, and they went in the van that was kind of, the equivalent of kind of a minibus service here. and let's say it was four hours. i'm kind of rounding things out a little bit, about two hours into the trip they were stopped by some terrorists and they

were, they took them out of the bus, they checked them, and they were basically threatened to kill them. fortunately, the cherries were actually not looking for johnny's family, thank god, but they were looking for some other person that he had been assigned to do. they stay there for several hours in the desert, johnny's wife is holding the kids. they have four kids. and pretty much thinking they were going to die. until the terrorists apparently called whoever had assigned them to kill these people, you know, kill the person, and thank god the person that said, no, let these, let those people go. that's not your target. they then drove to baghdad and told johnny. you didn't know that story until we working on the book, right? so johnny's wife was telling me the story, we're sitting, she and i are sitting in the kitchen, and john is over there and he's listing, he starts going, interesting.

what? what? you see his eyes, like, his eyes become the size of his face over there, which is pretty big. pretty scary. >> yet. you know, like for me, like my kids and my wife, all my life. and trying to do the right thing for them, my country, but i end up with all this bad things about me, extremist, bad people. so when i hear them talk with my wife about these details, i freak out. out. >> fortunately she is fine and the kids are fine. but, unfortunately, we kind of skipped over a story there where your brother was assassinated. maybe we should tell that story of how your brother came to die, unfortunately. >> so my brother, he keep, like, pushing hard to work with, to

have any chance to support his family. so anyway, i find job with the iraqi army, and only my brother job is transportation the bread to iraqi camp. one of the days they weighed him at the bakery, and they came to him, and i apologize. they are cowards. they don't face him and they just shot him. there are three or four guys. they shot him in the face without giving them any chance to defend himself. >> and that was because they couldn't get you. so we have another story about you and giving with, tell the story. >> why don't you tell that and -- >> okay. one of the days i went to the base, and seals teach me always don't trust anyone outside the team, and always take the bad, bad feeling.

you feel good, everything -- [inaudible] so anyway, drove in my car and saw opal behind with two guys, the driver has long beard and the passenger, he's about 20 years old. it looks like -- i'm thinking, what's going on? at that time may be met, you know, 2004 there is no big deal of assassination or killing or bomb ied or something. so anyway, i'm thinking what am i going to do? i make up in my mind this is what i'm going to do, i'm going to take right, and soon they can come close to me and when it has been, i can push the brake and maybe it's going to give me time to confuse them if they have any

plan to kill me. so one of the guys, he pulled up and he shot, and that that i'm always i keep my head kind of, covered. so anyway i stopped the car and took but a cape and shot both of them. and i finish it because i'm not going to do that, they're going to chase me and the going to kill my family. >> and then what happened? you killed them, the crowd start together, and then what happens? >> so people, they surpass me what's going on. i told them those guys, they work with americans and all of them said good job, all of them. spent johnny was able to escape from that by claiming that the people he killed were actually the people who, you know, that

were working with the americans. he went back and made sure that his family was okay. johnny told me that story, that was one of the first stories that johnny told me, and when he told me that, we had met, we've talked before but we really met, we went -- i went out to san diego and johnny, you know, we had lunch and started work on a book and you don't really know, so i said, let's just hang out, just she'll come into, what do you like to do? johnny said, well, i like to take a walk down by the water, i the ocean. okay, taking out the. so we went out to a boardwalk and walked out there and johnny just started talking. now, i have to say that chris was really good friend. if chris asked to do something i would athletes -- actually do.

even if chris hadn't been involved, even if peter hubbard had asked me to do it, after walking out on that boardwalk and talking to johnny and just kind of getting a feel for him, i knew i had to write this book. so i thought what we would do since this is kind of related to the book, that we would do a little bit of reading. so johnny's going to read the entire book now, right? [laughter] spinning you guys need to tell the truth. >> i will read. i'm going to take my story what i just said, in writing the book i took my story which what happened in and johnny story in which i think the color of the car has changed a couple of times. and i will read from the book. >> we will just go with it. my america is your america, and your america is mine. is a refuge and a dream, a place of freedom and respite,

responsibility, to arrive here after the journey i took, after the bombs and gunfire and killings, the beheadings and kidnappings, the dangers, after everything that has happened in my life, the idea that i am free now and the knowledge of everything fills me with gratitude. and i am thankful for every moment and every breath. i am grateful to the seals who risked their lives for my family, grateful for the sacrifices of other servicemen and women, grateful to my neighbors and new friends who have welcomed me to this land of large dreams and open skies. every day i live a dream, my dream. but unlike most, my dream began amid a nightmare, a murderous war in iraq that destroyed not only the lives of many of my friends and relatives, but of an entire country and culture. that destruction began long before the war i thought then,

long before the conflict began. iraq was a broken country, a place ruled more by fear, a place where making a decent living is for me an impossible dream. the american war brought hope to the distant -- disenfranchised iraqis assume that hope evaporated replaced by violence and bloodshed. the americans were an excuse but not the cause of that money. the hatred engendered what would've been my country, and its effects continue to this day. i am far from that now. today, on a cool morning in san diego i walked out on the pier at imperial beach and feel the wind pushed against my body. tearing at my clothes and sandpaper and my face. it's a wonderful feeling. at six in the morning, the beach is nearly always deserted. it is as if i have the edge of the world completely to myself.

i wait a little while. the fishermen, and cast their lines into the surf. someone once told me that phishing is a great act of faith. to fish, one must be incredibly patient, but one must also believe. he waits on the water and the wind, casting and stand them believing that eventually his persistence will pay off. he dreams of landing a fish. he rehearses for it in his head. he hopes, he waits. that sort of dreaming is familiar to me. that is how i came to america, an immigrant before even knew i could travel, a citizen and my hopes before the wish could even be spoken, a fisherman. america is a land of immigrants. every family here has its own unique story of travel, of hardship in many cases, of triumph and sadness. many of those stories are filled with tears, a few are marked by

blood. my story has both. lef.. i was a man doing a job, when i was happy to have. i could support my family at a time and place those difficult to do so. for a while at least, a job i

thought that i was changing the country, my country for the better. people ask him a mission that went on, how many times they faced a. i don't know. i went on at least hundreds more likely thousands of operations with just the seals. sometimes two or three in a single night. american military units rotated in and out of the country every few months, taking the states back for months and even years. for me, there were no rotations in the rest room a very short and in a war zone. ieds and stray bullets were as much a dangerous actual combat dordrecht action, often more so. they'll seem like a a normal lifespan. perhaps a measure of words. if i encourage her fear or even savagery, it is because i am

human. these things are analogous. world that brings them out. we are all capable of the worst possible crimes. we cannot do. we cannot destroy. these are far easier to do then built to help someone live. i found to my horror that it does not take much to become a monster. i didn't always this way. if you like most people, i thought at one time the world was basically good. i believed and still believe that we can all live together in peace and a working together to make our communities and the world a better place, i feel, i know that it's better to make it build page tear down and destroy. i thought all people around the believed that.

little by little i saw it doubtfully. i try to change it. eventually i saw my only course is to educate. before i was able to cause america my home, i was able to announce to america. before i could take freedom i had to face death itself. the late summer 2004 at 10 working for a number of different organizations, civilian and military for more than a year. the liberation of iraq have been a glorious moment, a transit for all of us shared. when i got my first job as a translator, everyone's a liberated me from a week go, johnny. now you are made. what a wonderful thing. in barely a year, all that changed. things turned murderously bag. my job went from being a thing to be celebrated to the to be

hidden. any association with americans was a death sentence. if they let me them such as terror is the same thing. one morning on my way to conceal the scummy car pulled up kind as they approached him muscle. instinctively i knew what would happen if they look gorgeous deeper, the car drew close and the man in the passenger she reached in firing. i was lucky. i veered off the road, they manage to hit the other car returned. i jumped up an ak-47 in my hand. how many rounds i fire to have no idea. both men in the car. because the crash can make that difference. people ran to us. as the crowd gathered, i could feel the heat treat your buddies

if they demanded? what are you doing? is only one way to escape. those people they worked with the americans i said. they had to die. the crowd began to cheer. suddenly the car is in flames. i quickly made my getaway. it is one of the worst days of my life coming to take i denounced america, but it's also the day may escape to the united states began. caught my >> so we are kind of preforming here, so we'll take questions from people. we can talk about what's going on in iraq now. we will not identify anyone.

no active servicemen will be identified and we are trying to keep semantic details -- [inaudible] >> just to repeat the question for the video, carter frayed, johnny, now that people will come after you? maybe they can come after me, but they cannot come after my family. [inaudible] >> was it difficult for you to come to the united states and make the transition? -- [inaudible] >> we have a question about how difficult a place for you to come to the u.s. that's a great question. >> so my big issue -- it took

four or five hours -- [inaudible] so i pick arguments with the supervisor. i said i don't want you to be kind to me and give me money. i want to work. i deserve what i get. so this makes me kind of sad. >> but how you got out of that system, how you got out of iraq coming year helped by the seals. that's a question we're looking out for rack. when you had a serving in iraq, how you got to the u.s. >> so one of my friends --

[inaudible] so anyway, in 2005, most of the guys they left me and say you need to make to the united states. i want to do that. if i stay here i can do the right thing. my wife, when she came to baghdad -- my family deserves better. i mean, each one of them -- [inaudible] >> will go into that in a little more detail, but we will have to praise and thank this one in particular who really was a tremendous supporter of johnny and really made it happen. there were a lot of a lot of people involved.

a lot of officers. there's a lot of credit to be spread around. the master chief, if you know anything about the field, he is one task sop. when finally he got all the paperwork, johnny here, he was actually on a mission. you can imagine a guy crying and not only does he admit that, he is proud of that. it shows how much this feels really respect him. [inaudible] -- what was the defining moment when you're able to carry a weapon? >> to repeat the question, you are not allowed to carry with them. at what point were you allowed?

[inaudible] >> the americans have a long list of things, well first of all, the seals a rainy force can or can't do. as kind of a site or to that, they didn't allow interpreters not to carry weapons. at some point, we are talking about seals. this deal specifically started training iraqi forces. at that point, johnny was considered, even though he was working with seals, he was working also with the iraqis and under their rules he was allowed to carry the weapon. i know it's convoluted. i'm not the person who came up with those rules. the seals followed them. they didn't like them sometimes, but they did.

>> a moment ago you talked about the difficulties in arranging -- [inaudible] i'm a former east foreign policy analyst. there are actually many cases of people -- [inaudible] there is a reasonable number of dead men you have lot of soldiers who were trying to work for these people to put their lives on the line and sometimes there were tremendous difficulties that the american bureaucracy to get these people out of afghanistan and america.

is there any type of national organization, one by one by one by one as a larger group because a number of them and people who really hope the american with the united states. >> just a kind of repeat were summarized in repeat the question, johnny was lucky and held for the seals to come to america. but there are as their audience member pointed out, there's a lot of iraqis who help americans in afghanistan and had difficulty coming to america. that is actually one of the untold stories that even though congress actually passed a law and shot ashley came to america under that law, saying that we

recognize that these people put their lives on the line for america should not be held to defeat entreat mfs what they want. unfortunately, the implementation of that law has been far less than just a kinder proselytized a little trickier, it is not then what you hope. unfortunately, very few translators specifically for interpreters have come to america. the audience member was pointing out and asking if there was an organization of people stuck in afghanistan and iraq. i don't know of one and i think i am not sure what should be done. i note that we have an obligation to help the people who helped us.

hopefully we learned our lesson from tom -- of vietnam. we had a similar situation there. you've been in john's case is hard. >> we'd like -- [inaudible] >> hold on, hold on. i [inaudible] [inaudible]

>> you know, that's a really good question. the question is who's done to authors with the co-author of this book and other books obviously. how do you keep yourself? i think you try to train yourself to become -- my job is not to give my opinion or my voice. my job is to give johnny his voice in this story. when i did american sniper, which is a book about a feel sniper from texas, in some ways it was a bit of any yearbook because chris had a very texan boys. he talked a lot different than i do. you know, for chris to be

spending a lot of time with him, with his family. and just listening and trying to become the conduit for what he thought and what he wanted to say. whether he agreed with it or not. i agreed with a lot, but not necessarily everything. i mean, he's a dallas cowboy fan. give me a break. baseball, forget about it. when it came to johnny, we had a couple of barriers to overcome. one is the language because as you can see i speak perfect arabic. he doesn't understand half the italian stuff, language i throw at them as a joke, which is probably to his credit. the other thing was trying to replicate his language and what

we tried to do was come up with a language that would mimic to some extent the arabic used them in the formal arabic and basically come down to spending a lot of time with the guy in forming a bond. we spent so much time together that everyone hates me now. good thing i'll say to johnny is if you spend a lot of time with him, you can't help but like him. hopefully we communicate that in the book. they do talk about that. >> i'm sorry. i've got to go to jeremy.

[inaudible] >> how did you get code johnnie walker? >> johnnie walker or codename. >> johnnie walker. [inaudible] >> there's more to the story than that as usual. the other thing is to get one story from johnny and younis qasim story 25 times before you get the details. and then you find the seals with them get bored. but they originally were calling you walker i think. i think somebody sell you the cities not walker. he's johnnie walker. johnny being johnny at that point didn't understand the joke. >> i get it now. >> you get it now?

>> do we have other questions? >> i realize that a lot of your missions are still classified. can you explain what the mix was? was an interrogation, community relations, what were you doing? >> so i did all the missions. [inaudible] >> almost all of the missions were with the seals. he worked with some government agencies anywhere also in the book some other army services.

dangers, forces, paul, paul, paul. the missions were the seals were where you'd go to essentially make an arrest, to use kind of civilian language. you would go to search out a certain individual who may or may not have been guilty. often wise. but the americans being americans -- you go to apprehend people. we were doing missions where you hand out soccer. [inaudible] said make up respectfully and

tideland. -- [inaudible] >> there's one misconception misconception that i think when americans hear sniper missions, we think the seals are going out to shoot someone. actually, the sniper mission in iraq coor for the most part, were watching where the americans were protect to make sure that there is not going to be any violence on the street. the night before the election, they would set up outcomes and they would watch the strata make sure there were no bad guys. to do that, unfortunately they

advertise, we like to take over our house. johnny's job in those cases was to assure the people that we are here. we are here for this mission. we are here to protect iraqis. we know it's a pain in the neck. they went to get them, shopping for them. when snipers were thinking of the movies -- [inaudible] >> what are you doing today?

[inaudible] they make john's easy to send a message to respect you. there's one guy -- [inaudible] >> still like we really set to. probably to make it out of the rack to help him in a slave. it is very important for our troops, wherever they are,

wouldn't they are in an urban situation or wherever they are, to present themselves a certain way so they understand several customs. it could mean a lot. so at least they understand the theory of what they are going into. did we have other questions? [inaudible] >> question is johnny, have you ever can get her going back to iraq? >> now, this is my country for life. [inaudible] >> john loves america. i can call john at 25 times a day. how are you doing? living the dream, brother.

but the truth is -- [inaudible] the thing with johnny is he didn't just work on issues against al qaeda were shia. the one i missions against everybody. he doesn't have just one enemy. he's got enemies all over the place. do we have other questions? i'm sorry. did you want to do this? would like to thank everybody for coming. [inaudible] just kidding about thatcoming. [inaudible] just kidding about that. i guess we should explain that. johnny does not use the name he was given a earth because he

still has relatives in different ways. not necessarily iraq, but other places are potentially they could be engaged in using the names could hurt them. so, thank you, everybody. [applause] >> i think there are some myths

that they are. people think it maraschino chary descend miraculously was preserved. the brain processes of different types of sulfate for use in making wine. silverlake, i wouldn't call it a healthy product, but i would call it something that is pretty great. >> what you need here is cherries in various features the process. the chairs that come in, even though we put them in water, they still have tried in the word. so they go through an extensive washington cash defined, the sulfur calcium backout of brew. the practice of making maraschino is basically taking the bribe and just soaking it in a progressively stronger and stronger sugar color solution. over the course of that schedule, yields need the color

density pickup as the sugar can't tactics. you can see some very early. the process that is lightly colored pc how much much darker colored baggies. it's much further along. kind of gives you an idea. i'm a normal day you see yellow, pink, deep red. it is just a cycle of the infusion and where they sat in the process. >> yours are proud to mine up for tonight.

>> max, transatlantic corey mitchell, course on it are the fab five. this week, represented keith ellison and his book, subfloor. and that, the congressman discusses his journey from detroit to minneapolis, his conversion to islam can't election to congress in his rise to become a leader of the democratic party. this program is about an hour.

>> congressmen ellison, thank you for being here. tell us about the district you represented minnesota and also you're going capitol hill. >> guest: the fifth special district of minnesota, it is a place that's very diverse. free people all over the world i think we have the largest urban indian population in the united states. with also ignored by those terms amalia, russia, laos. and we have this tradition all population from director eric, norway, you know, of course to practice traditional african-american community, which has always been there as a part of the great