ladies and gentleman and a c-span audience please come downstairs to buy her book julia angwin use the anonymous browser. [laughter] please join be to think julia angwin. [applause] >> thank you linda and all of you for o [applause] >> think you for coming it is a very gratifying.

with a couple of purgatory comments, full disclosure disclosure, spending three decades to do everything . secret. festival talk. i have done speaking before the lawyers association, conferences and schools but this is my first festival appearance, so this is a new and exciting experience for me. but it's also a new experience for me albeit somewhat intimidating this is my first talk in a church. [laughter] the idea of an older cia guy talking about spy stuff i will try to stay focused but thank

you all. i'm not going to speak any longer than 30 minutes. and i may not speak that long because one of the things i have enjoyed about the public appearances is honestly not listening to myself talk because god knows after five weeks of either two or you have heard me say everything for about 25 times already. but what i enjoy is the feedback from the audience. i was telling linda right before i came on here that it never fails. i always get asked the question in all of my appearances i've not thought of before. so that is what makes it fun for

me. i did, to get the way of the land here, i did attend the previous address of the previous speaker which may have been a mistake on my part because i think it will become clear to you soon there is a vivid contrast between the two of us. he is obviously just a prestigious highly successful professional writer. i will let you in on another secret company man is my first book. it may not be much of a secret in terms of the book business, i do not know at this point. i'm still processing the experience i have been through. so i am not by any stretch -- i consider myself a professional

writer. i thought it might be interesting i read the materials that were given to me to prepare me for this appearance, and i noticed one of the suggestions for every speaker besides keeping it for 30 minutes is to discuss my life in letters. my life in letters is one book so that would be a short discussion. . . inside of the cia how does one go about writing and getting an agent or publisher and getting the cia to agree to allow such a book to be published? as i said i haven't really

talked about this before to an audience, but it's i think it is a fascinating and albeit complicated process with your indulgence i promise you probably know other writer you listen to at the festival has quite the journey that i'm going to describe to you, but i think it does say something about how the cia operates and how pple i think it does say something about how the cia operates and how people in the cia once they leave the cia how they conduct themselves and how they must conduct themselves. when i was a young fellow about 28, 28 years old in january 1976, first off i will preface by saying i'm not one of those people who