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responsible budget canal propel the economy forward. .. we would have just carrier strike crews. if we stay on our current path
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we will put both our economy and our national security at risk. that is why we wrote this budget because we owe to the country to lay out an alternative. we believe every person deserves a fair shot at a brighter future everyone deserves an america that works. we owed the american people a responsible balanced budget is a balanced budget will expand opportunity by creating jobs and by supporting our military it will help keep our country safe. the president's budget, it never balances, ever. our budget on the other hand balances in 10 years and it puts us on the path to paying off our debts so that our children and grandchildren inherit a debt-free future. how do we do it? verse 1 we stopped spending money we don't have. we cut waste and make much-needed reforms to save
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$5.1 trillion over the next 10 years. our critics may call this deep but look at it this way. on the current path the federal government will spend roughly $48 trillion over the next 10 years. by contrast this budget will spend nearly $43 trillion. on the current pass spending will grow an average of 5.2% a year and under a budget spending will grow an average of 3.5% a year nearly $43 trillion. increasing spending by 3.5% instead of 5.2% is hardly draconian. under this plan will expand opportunity but rowing our economy. we will provide families with a fair simple tax code to boost wages and create jobs. we will restore fairness by cutting spending in preventing cronyism. and help people get back on their feet. we will strengthen medicare and
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other vital programs. and our friends on the other side might dispute this point but remember it was obamacare that indicated medicare as we know it. remember it was a bomb the care that cut $7 million from medicare. it was obamacare that sent bureaucrats to ration care for seniors. that is why the budget will repeal obamacare in its entirety. we will and the raid on medicare. we will make no changes for those near retirement and as for the next generation they will get to choose from a number of plans including a traditional medicare option so they can find a plan that works best for them. cbo says such an approach would lower cost to taxpayers and for seniors. it's a win-win. finally this budget will protect our national security. it's a first responsibility of federal government. will provide her church the training and equipment and compensation they need. the budget resolution rejects
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the president's budget and adds $274 billion more to our military. under our plan the army will maintain its current strength. we will have 11 carriers in the full cruiser fleet. modernization programs like the joint fight striker will stay on track and fully fund the president's request for veteran affairs. this will make our economy even stronger. cbo says the deficit reduction and this budget will produce stronger and stronger economic growth over time. by 2024 real economic output will be 1.8% higher than it otherwise would be or a about $1100 per person and that will continue to grow going forward. after five years of big spending and little results we think it's irresponsible to take more from hard-working families to spend more shinki in. it's just that simple treat every family must balance their
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budget. washington should do the same and with the right reforms in place we can strengthen our national security. we can foster healthier economy, create jobs and raise take-home pay and with that i would like to to recognize the ranking member for his opening remarks. >> thank you mr. chairman and let me think the chairman for making sure we structure our debate and conversation and civil ways. as the chairman said we have sharp differences. we will express them clearly that at the end of the day we may be able to conduct business in a civil manner. now we agree on one thing mr. chairman and that is the budgets are a reflection of our vision for america and reveal our priorities. they demonstrate what we value and what we don't. they are about fundamental choices and the future direction of our country. the president has presented a budget that will help boost job growth sharp and america's competitive edge expand
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opportunity and protect our nation. now we have a republican budget. of all the reckless republican budgets we have seen i regret to say this one is the worst for america. many will argue that this budget should not be taken seriously because it will go nowhere in the senate but the public should take it very seriously because it tells people exactly what our republican colleagues in congress would do if they had the power to impose their will on the country. what does this budget mean for america? what choices does it make? at its core this budget rigs the rules of the game for wealthy special interests at the expense of everyone else. it cuts tax rates for multimillionaires by one third while it gets violent vestments to our children's future, squeezes the middle class and violates important commitments to our seniors. china and our economic competitors will eat or lunch in the global arena if we pass this budget.
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it provides perverse incentives to ship american jobs overseas while shortchanging investments and jobs here at home. as we will see today it makes historically wreck was cuts in areas that help power our economy education, scientific research innovation advanced manufacturing and diverse energy sources. all told it cuts nondiscretionary spending are a staggering $791 billion below the already unsustainable sequester level. that takes those investments to almost 40% lower as a share of our economy than at any time in the last 50 years. the republican and democratic administrations and a time when we should be modernizing our infrastructure this budget slashes the transporttransport ation budget by a whopping $52 billion this year alone stopping new projects and throwing construction workers off their jobs. it will condemn the united
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states will potholed role of economic decline and rejects the one measure that according to the congressional budget office could unleash more economic activity and grow our economy and comprehensive immigration reform. starting with their kids education which is vital to a bright future for all of us read the saddest part about this budget is that it casts a dark shadow over the american dream. it violates the fundamental promise that every hard-working american should have a fair shot at success. at a time when we need to be investing more in our kids education and slashes funding fr education and job training by over 145 million dollars and after cutting that part of the education budget it then cuts current policy support for highr education by another $205 billin students who want to go to college will have a very rough time unless they are born to
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well-to-do families. this budget eliminates the one guaranteed source of hell grant. it starts charging students interest on their loan while thy are in college. it discontinues the college tuition tax credits for middle income families and it reverses new efforts to reap relieve the debt ridden on many students. so much for addressing the lack of upward mobility. rung by rung this budget up the steps off the ladder of opportunity. take seniors as her next exampl. those on medicare will immediately pay more, immediatey for diagnostic screening and preventive health services. those with high prescription drg costs will see the doughnut hole reopened and their prices will skyrocket. seniors with high drug costs wil pay nearly $1200 or more per yer on average.
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millions of seniors in nursing homes will be especially hurt by the was cuts to medicaid and ovr two-thirds of the base medicaid program supports the elderly and the disabled. this cuts the medicaid budget in the last year by 25%. in addition to revealing the medicaid provisions in the medical -- of cortical care act. and the current medical guaranteed forcing seniors to stay in fee-for-service to face large premium increases and on top of all that he keeps the medicare sequester cut on health care providers to the tune of $140 billion. no class families are also very hard hit and they will see the tax burden increase to finance windfall tax breaks. it's sf chairman camps reality-based tax reform bill never existed. it's as if he was beamed up
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because while his tax reform proposal has a top rated 35% ths one again says you're going to reach 25%. the math doesn't change from year-to-year mr. chairman. if you reduce the top rate for millionaires by one third from 39% to 25% he will increase the tax burden on middle income families with kids by an average of $2000 each. this budget also delivers probably screwless blow to those seeking to climb out of poverty and into the middle class. it reveals that much of the postelection talk about addressing poverty issues was just that, talk. during the last election governr romney stated he wasn't focused on helping the 47%. we all remember that. this budget sets out to prove that. it's nothing short of an assault on america's struggling to stay afloat economically. the cuts to food nutrition programs and medicaid are
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designed to help prevent people from falling into deep poverty. this gets rid of those safety nets. mr. chairman and we remember the big debate last year over the farm bill. a republican colleagues proposed $40 billion in cuts. in the end it was eight ilya and after much debate. this budget, 125 million dollar plus cuts to food and nutrition. this whole strategy and this whole ideological is premised on the false notion that providing struggling families with minimal food and nutrition sap their motivation. maybe as if taking away food and nutritional program will somehow have more jobs pop up in people run into those jobs. it is no wonder that faith grous
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groups -- failing to meet standards in ths is the worst yet. our colleague say this is all necessary. these bitter austerity measures are necessary to rid us of the deficit but if that is really republicans paramount concern wy did they refuse to close one single tax break to help reduce the deficit? not one. they say they don't want to pass on debts to future generations but apparently don't care enough about that to reduce one tax break for the koch brothers or any other special interests. why place all the burden of deficit reduction on the middle class on our kids seniors and hard-working americans who made their living earning wages rathr than profits in tax preferred hedge funds and dock options? finally and mr. chairman i have got to say this most upsets our public and colleagues. this budget does not allen's. it is a total fraud. it's a total fraud claim that this budget balances in 10 year.
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at the same time republicans hae voted more than 50 times to repeal the affordable care act. why is that true? because this budget includes all the medicare savings from the affordable care act. includes every penny of revenue for the affordable care act. that is $2 trillion in the affordable care act embedded in this republican budget. so if you repeal the affordable care act you were repealing thoe provisions. with this budget does it takes away the benefits of the affordable care act and takes with the tax credits in the provisions that plugged the doughnut hole but he keeps all the savings and all the revenue and it does not balance 10 years from now without the revenues ad savings from the affordable care act could you have to choose. no one is going to be fooled. either you are in favor of keeping the provisions for the affordable care act or you will claim a balanced budget that is just not true to claim both at the same time.
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mr. chairman we are looking forward to a spirited debate about the choices made in this budget. we think it's the wrong directin for america. we will have an alternative proposal. the president is has pulled an alternative proposal on the budget but we look forward to a healthy debate about these choices so thank you. >> the ranking member does not disappoint. thank you. now we will take our 50 whatever minutes left, 53 minutes left ad shared with our site in the minority. i yield two minutes to the chairman from georgia dr. price. >> clearly the american people know that the path we are on wht were. the economy's not driving record deficits continue and the mantra division trying to divide the country not unify the country continues. we had a display that just now. the other side seems to be happy with the doldrums of the economc
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era borrowing more money from foreign countries compromising opportunities for future generations. we believe there is a better wa. real solutions and that's our budget a responsible balanced budget. a path to prosperity for all. the chairman mentioned increasig spending for defense and nationl security. this is a dangerous world gettig more dangerous by the day. we account for that in our budgt the president irresponsibly seems to bury his head in the sand. in my short time i want to talk about a couple of specific areas. as a physician i recognize health care is in upheaval. seniors are losing their doctors. our budget positively addresses these issues. we save and strengthen and secure medicare. how? positive reform or traces putting patients at the center not government. in fact the congressional budget office in a report last september shows that our solution to get this mr. chairman our solution saves money for seniors and the
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government both real solutions read another exciting difference between our budget in the president's budget and no the other side's budget we understand a growing economy is vital to getting things back on track. the past five years admin dismal and they have not helped. the congressional budget office has evaluated our proposed policies and said if we are able to institute our planet saving over $5 trillion over the next 10 years there'll be significant benefit to the economy. realistic scoring shows and i "my the cbo congressional the cbo congressional budget office finds reducing budget deficits as a net positive for economic growth. deficit reduction creates long-term economic benefits because it increases the pool of national savings and boosts investment thereby raising economic growth and job creation. these benefits are significant and lasting. this dynamic will reduce budget deficits or increase budget surpluses by roughly 82 billion dollars in 2023.
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that's right. with $5 trillion in excess deficit reduction will boost the economy. this is an exciting and realistic appraisal of action and i'm proud to stand with my fellow budget committee members a memoir to commend the staff for the work they have done in earth support of this positive solution. >> now we will hear from mr. -- for five minutes. >> thank you chairman for all the work is put into this budget and all the committee staff as well for the resolution that comes before the committee today. american families and businesses continue to struggle in our country. the struggle against the reality of this obama economy. for more than five years now for more than five years since the recession hit long-term unemployment in this country process and when job seekers to find a job that too often find that it is a part time work and that is their only option. so contrary to the rosy
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proclamations that we often hear from the administration the job market really is strugglinstrugglin g to regain its foothold. that is not just something he is saying and not artists and rhetoric. it was cherry yellen who recently remarked the existence of such a large pool of partly unemployed workers is a sign that labor conditions are worse than indicated by the unemployment rate this reality is symptomatic of a more fundamental problem. it is a job destroying trifecta if you will. it's obamacare is, it's overregulation and its deficit spending otherwise known as obaa onnomics. it's holding back a solid economic turnaround for all americans. today what are we going to do about a? the committee was pass the fiscl blueprint could to counter fighters are policies that have not worked for the average american. the 2015 budget plan will consider today is a plan for
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growth. this budget is grounded on basic math. basic mathematical principle tht you cannot fix the debt problem until you get the budget under control and as many have long said you need a balanced budget plan to prevent further red relating to balance budget to give job creators a reason to hire. i urge my members on both sides of aisle to accomplish that by passing this budget today. i yield back. >> thank you. now we will hear two minutes from the talmud from california to campbell. >> thank you mr. chairman. this is my ninth and last year on this committee and i would just like to make certain to point to my way out. i remember when cheney as vice president said deficits didn't matter that my friends on the other side of the aisle rightly told me that lately seems the obama and mr. nation is taking the same tack that deficits don't enter. in between those two statements there was a period of time in which there was bipartisan agreement and understanding that
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deficits do matter that they inhibit growth in the present. we all know what's going to happen today and we all know what will happen with the budget this year but i hope that next year when i'm not here but most of you are that we get back to that bipartisan understanding that deficits do matter. we will disagree on how to accomplish the balance budget but those disagreements in those arguments are worth having. to argue that somehow that deficits don't matter and that we don't need to balance this budget is simply wrong. the second i would like to make is about the entitlements. we have had people sit in this witness chair from the left or right in the center for all of these nine years and say the entitlement spending is unsustainable that social security medicare and medicaid the rest of them will not survive if we don't reform them.
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that is something again on which there should be bipartisan agreement. maybe we disagree on how to reform them but not only should we reform them for our own sake but increasingly these entitlements are squeezing out the spending priorities on both the right in the left and that is something upon which we should be able to agree as well. we won't agree today but i hope that we can start to set in place the building blocks to where perhaps next year these two things can be dealt with and i yield back. >> mr. mcclintock we will skip the order a little bit and i yield two minutes to mr. mcclintock. >> thank you mr. chairman and in august of 2010 the chairman of the joint chiefs warned us that the greatest threat to our national security was her national debt and we have grown another $4 trillion deeper in debt since he gave that warning. since inauguration day 2009 this
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nation has piled up more new debt and we have acquired from the first day of the george washington administration into the third year of the george w. bush administration. we were told this would jumpstart the economy but it hasn't. instead it has deprived markets of the capital that would otherwise be loaned to businesses seeking to expand jobs to consumers seeking to make purchase and to homebuyers seeking to re-enter the housing market. we all know if you live beyond your means today you are going to have to live below your means in the future. that's the future we have created for our children. balancing this budget and paying down the national debt is a national security imperative. it's an economic imperative and it is a moral imperative. under chairman reince leadership the house is poised to pass the worth budget in a row that will ultimately balance. that stands in stark contrast to the president's budget that
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never balances and condemns her nation to a death spiral that will consume our future. it does so by reforming and reorganizing our social safety nets preventing impending bankruptcy and restoring them to sound financial foundations with for generations to come. time is not our ally. every day we delay the problem becomes more intractable in the road back becomes more perilous. we are told by the ranking member the senator and president will never agree to put our nation back on the road to solvency. sadly that is true but i look forward to a day perhaps not long off when they will become willing partners to balance her budget and by doing so restore our nation's prosperity security in the future. thank you. >> now we will hear two minutes from the gentlelady from tennessee ms. lack.
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>> thank you mr. chairman and again i want to thank you for your leadership on the support issue. unlike the president's budget this budget is a serious proposal that balances their budget and helps our economy grow. we all know that our nation is $17.4 trillion in debt and if we want to preserve this country for our children and our grandchildren we must reform the way that washington works. everyone knows that medicare will soon go bankrupt and that's why i'm happy that this budget proposal saves this important program for seniors and future generations. by transitioning into premium support model we can preserve medicare for those in your retirement and strengthen medicare for younger generations. furthermore this budget ends the obamacare is raid on the medicare trust fund and repeals obamacare is independent payment advisory board to help ensure that our seniors get the care they deserve and despite what some critics say this does not
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eliminate traditional medicare. instead it ensures americans will always have traditional medicare is an option. under this plan every senior will have the support they need to get to care they deserve. and those who attack this reform without offering a credible alternative are complicit in medicare's demise so i want to commend chairman ryan in my republican colleagues from the budget committee formed leading where president obama in the senate democrats have failed. one way or another this country will have to address our out-of-control debt and deficits in this budget does so responsibly. thank you mr. chairman and i yield back the balance of my time. >> two minutes to mr. ribble. >> in this hyperpolitically partisan environment that we
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live than in congress these are difficult, difficult decisions that have to be made. somehow we have to find a way to do them. i'm not exactly sure. i listened to the ranking member's comments about the difficulty of this budget. he used the word bad. i might say tough. the problem is the longer we put off our decisions the longer we delay. i'm in now in my fourth year of congress and we haven't made the moves move to make the tough decisions. the bad decisions that need to happen today become worse decisions tomorrow and harder and more difficult decisions mainly on the next generation of americans. at some point to decisions have to be made. they are not going to be fun. i do kind of reject the idea that was happen in the last couple of years have been austerity. the 600 plus billion dollar deficit we face last year under any metric would have been among
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the worst in u.s. history but today it has been redefined as an austerity budget which is just a shocking capitulation of common sense in my view. it's an astounding thing to even think in those terms but in light of 1.3 or 4 trillion-dollar deficits we had when i came here in 2011 i guess maybe you could make some type of argument along that way but we have not gone far enough. we have to begin to move and make these decisions. every single person comes i comes in here testifies whether the ceo tell us social security medicare to plead without fixing these things and i'm proud we are taping steps to fix that and with that i yield back. >> thank you. with that i would like to yield two minutes from the gentleman from texas. >> as a cpa in creating jobs in the industry they are two
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processes to budgeting in order to balance a budget. number one is making sure you've set your expenses with your basic needs and with the realities that you are faced with and secondly and more portly grow your income. in this case the budget grows her national income in order to grow tax receipts with the balanced budget. our budget like i said deals head-on with both the basic economic pretzels. i want to discuss the latter and that is how to improve economic growth and thereby improve revenues. the obama economy has been the hardest on the lowest income americans and has resulted in the lowest participation rate since the disastrous years of jimmy carter. the better way is to embrace american energy revolution in the american manufacturing job renaissance this country is gone through in the past couple of years despite the administrations efforts to move this in a different way. for example we had an energy
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bill on the floor of the house that i introduced a few weeks ago ago the pass in a bipartisan basis. it had support from everybody from manufacturing companies to unions to energy companies and it reflected a real-world way to get our economy going again. americans support our vision of american energy security by 2020 and our budget incorporates these and i hope we will move forward on using those basic vegetables. i would like to add one additional comment. any budget based on real-world principles of reforming expenses and growing in income should not be called a fraud and i think that statement goes beyond the pale. with that mr. chairman i yield back. thank you. >> with that i would like to yield two minutes to the gentleman from indiana mr. rokita. >> i would like to associate my comments with those of mr. campbell from colorado. i was one that was clapping for purposes of the word in case
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there is a discipline nascent be but i think it was exactly right. this is a restatement of the problems, the fiscal problems we are facing in the public sector particularly a federal government in this country. number one the deficits do matter and number two that 10,000 people a day are retiring into social entitlement programs that left and reformed are simply not sustainable and witness after witness again from the left and the right to the center have explain that to us. the benefit of this budget and the reason we do it as we continue to have this very direct and honest conversation with the american people about what needs to be done. mr. chairman i will never forget the first time we introduced this budget. the immediate response i think was three or four years ago about 24 hours later was that
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another alternative substantive policy issue that was brought forward a different idea? no. it was a commercial with a rather tall man. i would like to think they are characterizing me that the man was much too skinny. pushing an elderly person in a wheelchair off a cliff. that is what serves from the discussion. i hope we can get beyond that in year four of this budget. to the extent the substantive policy alternative is to say you can take all the chairman's money all george soros but they all top rokita's money and as long as people add $10,000 a day to unreformed systems we won't have enough money to pay for this budget. we can take 100% of what people make and it won't solve the problem. i yield back. >> thank you. now i would like to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from
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tennessee ms. blackburn. >> thank you mr. chairman. apologize for my tardiness. we have an internet freedom hearing going on in energy and commerce but i thank you for the budget and the work you have done. i join my colleagues in being concerned about what this obama economy is doing to our country. i think because of the death in the annual deficits our children and grandchildren are being robbed of the economic freedom that is rooted in the american dream. it is the ultimate cap-and-trade. last year cbo predicted the u.s. economy would grow on average to .9% each year over the next decade. now they're predicting it's only going to be 2.5%. the economy is shrinking the
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four eyes and wrapping up one opportunity left hand is being wrapped in regulatory red tape. also of concern to me as i look at the long-term budget analysis is only 63% of the american people have a job or are looking for one. that's the lowest level since 1978. they are losing faith and trust in this economy. we can do better again this committee is showing the american people that there is indeed another way a better way to move back to preserving the american dream. we don't have to sit back and accept the status quo that has brought us crushing debt, big bloated budgets that never balance and fewer choices when it comes to our own health care. i like the fact that this budget would balance in 10 years provides a simple and fair tax code and strengthens programs like medicare by giving seniors, by giving and allowing seniors
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more choices and options over their health care. i yield back my time. >> at this time i would like to yield to mr. the gentleman from virginia mr. rigell. >> i really do appreciate your leadership on this critical issue. the fact that our committee and i really believe our conferences have the courage and the wisdom to boldly confront what is truly a think the most significant threat facing our country which is our fiscal trajectory. i also want to thank the ranking member mr. van hollen. i've always appreciated the way his approach this. psi's been civil and i appreciate not only from him but my democratic colleagues here today. some said we didn't need to have this debate and i make the case that we did need to have this debate and did need to pass this resolution because it brings to the attention of the american people the clear contrast that i
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see between the two parties. we have had as i see it as republicans we have responsibly not perhaps perfectly but responsibly picked up the third rail of politics mandatory spending that we have not been met with the good faith effort as i see it from our friends on the other side. i'm proud of our work there and it seems to me there's a central theme that i often hear from the other side that we care more and we are spending more and we are spending more because we care more. i categorically reject the premise. what we are doing here because indeed we care about every one of these areas from defense and job creation and we are a bit more focused on growth and making sure that we open up our energy opportunities. 85% of those lana for countries closed off to exploration. there is a wonderful contrast here today. i look forward to debate and at the end of the day i would ask my colleagues on both sides to support this resolution. i yield back.
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>> thank you. this time i would like to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from missouri. missouri or missouri? >> i say missouri. thank you mr. chairman. as i travel through missouri my constituents expressed their concerns with a lack of the right priorities in washington including now providing for the common defense plus concerns like excessive government spending increased taxes and overregulation. our federal debt exceeds $17 trillion. this creates anxiety and uncertainty for all americans and as a member of the budget committee i'm proud to join my colleagues to support responsible it should budget that provides relay to a relief for strong defense and balances the budget in 10 years. the american people deserve a brighter safer future. we have seen president obama direct over $1 trillion in cuts to the military since he took office. while the cut nearly one fifth of our defense resources russia and china --
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russia's military spending is up roughly 30% and china's has more than doubled. if we want to reverse this trend we must realize -- realign our parties. it's imperative that build upon the recent compromise and further reverse the current trajectory to mitigate the permanent damage to our national security. the reality is we cannot keep going back to the dod to cut spending. we cannot ask our men and women in uniform to balance out budget it's time to address the real drivers of our debt. in addition to replacing $274 million in scheduled defense cuts this budget promotes job creation by streamlining career training programs and encouraging pro-growth tax reform. additionally we believe hard-working americans from the costly burdens of obamacare. i'm proud to support a budget that reigns in government spending lowers taxes and
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reprioritize is our national defense. i yield back. >> at this time i'd like to yield two minutes to the gentlelady from alabama. >> eight i hear daily from hoosiers in the second district to support policies that will create jobs and boost the economy. they want me to reign in spending reducer more than 17 trillion-dollar debt. they want me to support policies that ensure kids have a shot at the american dream through this commonsense budget resolution does just that. it does promote economic growth and job creation. supports energy expansion and moves her country toward energy independence which will reduce electric bills and prices at the pump. it rolls back the federal red tape that has been stifling business expansion and growth. this budget protects seniors and low-income americans by ensuring that medicare and safety net programs like the supplemental nutritional assistance program will be sustainable in the long term. protecting these programs for americans who depend upon them. it provides state flexibility in
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medicaid strengthens the work requirements and make structural reforms to medicare. this budget will help reduce poverty boost economic mobility and strengthen our national economy. it increases funding for veterans support strong national defense through mr. chairman this budget provides a responsible sustainable plan for our economy and i urge my colleagues to support this budget. thank you and i yield back my time. >> next i would like to yield to another hoosier for two minutes. >> mr. chairman. thank you mr. chairman and thank you reg you member van hollen for this hearing today. the reality is in today's economy americans are struggling to find jobs. paychecks are shrinking. they are working harder but they are falling further behind. why? the answer is pretty simple. this economy is in fostering the creation of enough good-paying jobs. hard-working americans deserve a healthy economy where everyone has a shot at a brighter future.
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that is what today's budget is all about. this budget resolution is a responsible plan for creating a strong economy. that means tightening our belts balancing the books and making the government live within its means. that means making sure the social safety net provides a hand up and not a hand out. that means spending tax dollars more wisely. this budget resolution may be revolutionary to some simply because it calls on congress to make choices. neither party has been very good at that for quite a while now. that is why congress bends billions it doesn't have each year. that is where debt exceeds $17 trillion. that's why medicare is going broke. there are no easy answers but there are some. the path to prosperity the road toward leaving our country better than we found it demands
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choices being made. we can act now. america controls its own destiny and follows a path of our choosing or we can kick the can down the road. mr. chairman i'm proud to support this budget resolution he cuts it will help create genuine opportunities for people who want to find better paying jobs and improve their lives. i yield back the balance of my time. >> thank you. i yield two minutes to the gentleman from south carolina mr. rice. >> thank you mr. chairman. the number one issue in my district and i believe the number one issue in the country is jobs. five years after the great recession the economy continues to struggle and in far too many americans remain out for. we can solve this problem. it's not rocket science. we can build our economy and put hard-working folks back to work
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if only we'll take a few steps to make america more competitive. just like countries -- counties across the country just like states lower tax rates and shame on regulations to attract industry and jobs we must adopt the attitude here in washington that we will compete in the world. if we expect to stop sending our jobs overseas and bring american jobs back home. if we retain the world's highest corporate tax rate how can we expect to compete in the world? if washington continues to spend more money than we take in threatening our entire economy how can we expect to compete in the world? if we continue to build upon our already of present regulatory burdens how can we expect to compete in the world? this is where i believe my friends across the aisle miss the march. they seem to believe somehow making this country competitive benefits only the wealthy but the truth is people with high
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assets for high skills will do well in the global environment. the longer we wait to enter the global competition for jobs the more we damage the hard-working folks in the middle class. we will not grow our economy or put people back to work by expanding entitlements. if america will enter the global competition for jobs our economy will accelerate. this sky is the limit. if we simply decide to compete no one can stop us. this is not republican or democratic issue. this is an american issue. >> thank you. next i would like to yield two minutes to the shaman from texas >> i would like to echo what many of said today and thank you for your tremendous tremendous work and leadership in putting together a smart responsible budget that allows americans to see that washington can lead by example. everyone in america has to tell and their families budget not
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every 10 years not every single year but every single day. as many of you know i'm a small-business small business owner. i still own a business and i have done that for 44 years. importance of balancing the budget is strictly not lost on me that by cutting waste fraud and abuse in fixing our tax code and not spending money we don't have the government can become a team player and play a supportive role in writing or nations fiscal ship that lowering taxes we will increase income and lower unemployment. by raining and regulatory burdens and squeezing small businesses we will create a progress environment that will encourage businesses like mine to expand. by expanding domestic energy production like we have done in my home state of texas we can shrink the deficit and put people back to work and by balancing the budget we will rebuild a healthy economy. the importance of making sure america's energy independence workers continued uncertainty abroad now is the time the free
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energy production from continued regulations. she production can be limitless just like we have seen in north dakota where unemployment is lower than 3% and in my state in midland texas 2.4%. these are little jobs in their analyst endless. wealth is a frustration continues to penalize three sources of energy by picking winners and losers the path to prosperity will continue to open more federal lands to energy building than ever before. finally our economy cannot grow without serious predatory reform. personal, has proposed more economic you significant resolution -- resolutions in previous semesters of the last 15 years combined. with an additional $87 billion in richer costs in 2014 these additional burns will continue to stifle competition in job creation through by removing harmful barriers and creating businesses from unnecessary relations america's best days are ahead of us and without that america's best days are behind us.
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i yield back. >> i would like to yield two minutes to the shaman from oklahoma mr. cole. >> i know from the many meetings we have had on the side of the aisle there was a lot of work put into the mounting debt and deterioration of our economic growth. brought about in part by over 17 trillion-dollar national debt. i want to thank you again for not backing down and dealing with the true problem of our debt entitlement programs. it would have been easy to give allocations for fiscal year 2015 however this budget this blueprint yet again allows us to share our visions for the future. i was disappointed to see the president reversed himself removing chained cpi from his budget proposal over republicans are willing to work and find common ground that move start
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debt downward instead of increasing at an exponential rate and i'm encouraged the caps set the bipartisan budget act for fiscal year 2015 are included in this budget. as a member of the appropriations subcommittee had seen the devastating cuts in capabilities. will continue to face if we continue with sequester. instead of going back to the well this year with even more discretionary cuts we have redoubled their efforts in entitlement programs to insure they are available for the future. frankly i don't think the defense reductions campaign in the budget control act are wiser sustainable. congress and the mistress and must address this issue no later than early next year. many criticize the budget for moving the goalposts and transitioning to a support model for those 56 and below however mr. chairman we have to face the facts. every year we did not act it becomes harder to preserve the current program for those already at or near retirement. this budget recognizes that hard reality and adjust itself accordingly. i hope this budget serves as a wake-up call that his time doing
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it and i know in washington we can become anesthetize the problems facing the country but they are rare when they must be addressed. this budget reflects republican vision for the future where we control our destiny as opposed to turning over control to creditors. i am for my friends friends across the aisle to seek common ground in our entitlemeentitleme nt reform proposals of these programs we all find so important can be preserved for future generations and with that idea back my time periods be next i would like to yield to another oklahoma and -- oklahoman. >> there are interesting conversations as we go to the facts and figures. one is cbo yet to come comes out and sees a declining economy as we continue to see revenues fall in future years. that shows the policies put in place by this president are not
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turning this economy around and we have to do something more aggressive to deal with this. the focal point that is getting us back to how do we balance our budget, how do we pay down our debt? it is hard to believe how far we have fallen as a nation. when a conversation about balancing the budget becomes a controversial conversation this towns namesake i think would be slightly embarrassed. let me read from his farewell address. the end of his two terms as president he said avoid likewise the cumulation of debt not only by shutting occasions of expense but vigorous to discharge the debt which unavoidable wars may location have occasion. not a generously throwing posterity the burden which we ourselves often bear. we have the responsibility to take this on a not continue to throw on our posterity the
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burdens that we have to bear. i think would be wise in this committee to think about the words of our first president in the namesake of this town and consider how are we going to take responsibility for the burden of this generation quits we have the highest amount of tax revenue ever in the history of the nation, ever. the economy continues to slow down and regulations continued to increase. let's get back to business and grow the economy and deal aggressively with this debt and passing on our prosperity. >> it would by teel to miss prosperity. >> you would like to yield to mr. the jump from mississippi. >> thank you mr. chairman. this week my former colleagues in the legislature are wrapping up their session and they have sat around and made very difficult choices. their families all around america are doing exactly what my wife and i did two decades ago when we came upon tough times.
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you sit around the kitchen table you may shed tears but you make those tough choices and move on. those families the legislators around the nation balancing their budgets the city and county governments have every reason to expect those of us in washington can do the same thing for the fourth year in a row this committee has drafted a balanced budget that does make it tough. the necessary choices by out-of-control spending. this past prosperity seeks to expand opportunity and jobs by highlighting policies that grow the economy. right now the bureau of labor statistics reports there are 10.5 million americans that are unemployed. they also say we have 4 million job openings. the gap in these numbers is partially due to the workforce training programs around and the federal bureaucracy that lets down our citizens who seek jobs.
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by streamlining these programs where not only achieving savings that we enable the workers and their jobseekers to respond quick leaf and effectively to career challenges. in addition to reforming job training programs this budget extends education reforms including for example changes to regulations. and the likelihood of students completing their courses and lowers the incentive for fall. i think it's important. if we adopt this to put our nation back on a path. thank you i yield back. i will consume a bit of our mating remaining time to wrap up
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and conclude pretty think mr. mcclintock got it just right. he said and this is axiomatic. if you live beyond your means today you are going to have to live below your means tomorrow. we all know that that's true. if we buy too much house and too much mortgage we know that we are hurting ourselves in the future. this is our problem. this is a generational thing. we in this generation are living beyond their means today. deficits, deficits, debt, debt, debt. the dataset 17 trillion on its way to 24 gillian dollars. we are not going to have to pay this. we will live beyond our means today and the next generations will have to live below their means tomorrow. cbo says it very quick -- clearly. where guaranteeing lower living
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standards for the next generation. with cbo also tells us is the senior get on top of this problem the better off everyone will be. the more we delayed to fix these fiscal problems they uglier dissolutions inevitably have to be. that is what we are saying. this is why we are doing the budget. we could've easily funded in this year. the appropriators are writing their bills and this is a good thing. if we don't like the direction the country is headed and we don't then we feel enough addition to say how we would do things differently and that is what this budget does. this is the fourth year in a row where we have produced a budget. when that balances and shows how we will do it and now my friend to my left here says this is a better austerity budget. that is what you have if you don't fix this fiscal problem.
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better austerity is what you get once a debt crisis hits. it are austerity is what is going on in europe right now. better austerity is we didn't fix this problem only had time to fix fix it and didn't get ahd of our problems and now we have bits are austerity. in europe they're cutting the safety of pulling the rug out from people after they have retired and having social castes and by the way slow economy and the lost decade or two. we are trying to preempt better austerity. a lot of us were here. remember that crash? all these things we have been bernanke and hank paulsen telling us that we might have a depression on our hands and all of a sudden they are thinking how did this happen? what's going on? how could we have prevented this and then we went through and found out oh this is what happened in the real estate market. this is what happened with
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mortgage backed securities and slicing and dicing the federal reserves reserve's and we know the rest of the story. the point i'm making that crisis caught us by surprise. that crisis cost millions of people their jobs very that crisis cost trillions of dollars in wealth in the world economy. this debt crisis that is on our horizon is the most predictable crisis we have ever had. we know this is coming. we see it. everybody knows this. cbl puts it in plain english and black-and-white math for us. are we going to keep offering budgets that never balance? or were we going to get on top of our problems. at the end of the day there's a difference in philosophy and that is good. that is what the two-party system is all about. that's healthy and it would be nice if we could detoxify the
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rhetoric a little bit and try to figure out how we get to the goal we are trying to get to a more prosperous and country where everyone can get at it. the we reject this one-size-fits-all all communities and states are alike and washington knows best mind-set. it's as if theirs is benevolent drivers see that knows more that can better guide our lives and communities better than we can. we reject this idea. we reject that premise and we reject the notion that measuring compassion, measuring dedication, measuring our fights for good things should be only measured in how much money we spend on inputs. why do we think about measuring results? why don't we think about measuring their efforts based on outcomes? are we achieving our goals?
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we have some very important principles that created this country. among those principles is that we have a government that is by consensus of the government. i see a lot of young people in the back. maybe they are from high school or something like that. high school? okay. they don't consent to this. unless they are seniors. the point i'm making is we have to speak for people who cannot. we have to speak for people who want to have the american dream, to you want this legacy of one generation leaving a better generation for the next country. ..
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they can get ahead. these are the things that we are striving for. now, we're going to hear a lot of rhetoric, and we are going to year what i think is a view that looks at life in the economy as some static pine does if the pie of life and a pile of our economy is some fixed thing. it is really a question of how we divide up this less more equitably.
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we reject that entire premise. really been growth, dynamism, the we ought to grow the pie so that everyone can get a better slice, but it's not a question of sitting here in government begin winners and losers by cronyism or whenever you want to try and redistribute the slices of the pie. you want to grow the pie for everybody. we will hear a lot of rhetoric -- rhetoric but we have in the past. back in 2011 lead pastor first budget the appropriations that we have in that budget for this fiscal year was 1,047,000,000,000 for 2015. back then that was considered draconian, and serious, and many other names are called. then eddie, mary, and i put together a bipartisan budget agreement that has called for spending in fiscal year 20,151,000,000,000,000, 14 billion. this was heralded as the great bipartisan step in the right
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direction. for those of you keeping score and minding our rhetoric $33 billion less mean of the bipartisan bill that we proposed two years earlier which was so draconian, so one serious about. we are proposing to the federal government increases and spending of the next seniors by three and a half% instead of five. by the way, if we reform government, but the patient and the center of health care, give states the ability the customize and tailor benefits of the populations like food stamps and medicaid and have pro-growth policies that put people back to work, clean up the tax system, have the energy renaissance fully developed and we will get people back to work and increase take-home pay, get this deficit down and as a result of more prosperity and faster economic growth. it is true, you cannot cut your
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way to a balanced budget. you have to grow your way by growing your economy. government as currently designed needs to be reformed man. if we stay on this path we are guaranteeing the next generation as a bankrupt medicare program, but crops social security, a bankrupt medicare, a bankrupt country. but 2024 according to cbo preprogrammed on medicare, medicaid concerns 100 percent of all revenue and net. we see this coming. it is not a republican telegraphing it is the demographics and. when you have so many baby boomers retiring, 10,000 a day for ten years and far fewer people falling into the work force in the cost of these programs goes up by five, 8% per year that the problems. the center we tackle this problem the sooner we get at the center reapply proven ideas and reform some the scent -- the better off we will all be. i hope we take this into
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perspective as we use our rhetoric and think abound the next generation, those people who don't consent to this debt that is coming to them. in the hope that we can think about, maybe the design of some of these programs in the 20th-century could be improved. maybe we have learned a few things about how to make these polls more accomplished chefs, how to focus on outcomes and results instead of just inputs and spending. that is what we're trying to accomplish. we're trying to get this debate killing so that we can solve this problem. we believe we have a responsibility, not just to the next generation but our constituents today. we know that if we get our fiscal house in order will grow the economy and help create jobs today. that is a good thing. with that was your back the remainder of my time. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i will yield in a moment. before i do that a couple of points. as we both agree, this is about choices and how you arrive at
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certain goals. our paramount goal is economic growth and getting more people back to work. as part of that we have a budget that significantly reduces the deficit in the out years so that it is growing much slower than the economy. and so the debt burden is coming down. so your budget does this in a different way. because you don't ask any americans who are doing very well, high income end of the scale to share more responsibility in trying to reduce those long-term deficits simple math tells you that you have to hit everybody else. we believe that if you're going to grow the economy have to invest in kids' education. if you're going back of a vibrant technology center you have to invest in basic research that is what china and other companies have actually been following what has been as successful model to do it. to cut those investments will hurt jobs and hurt growth.
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now i am going to turnover to mr. yarmouth who will talk about how we propose to go forward and how the republican budget actually is not a program of budget lean. i will yield ten minutes. >> i think mr. van holland. it is very frustrating that we are here again debating the same failed ideas that have been rejected over and over by congress and the american people, not only congress and the american people but the republican presidential candidate two years ago. the republican budget once again makes massive cuts to the very federal investments that create new jobs, grow our economy, and keep america competitive in the global marketplace. it makes those cuts to protect tax breaks and loopholes were special interests that ship our jobs overseas. over the past two years we have seen how damaging the current austerity measures of sequestration have been, costing jobs and holding back our economic recovery allowing our
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infrastructure crumbling and sending a medical research back years. we are still suffering from sequestration, and america cannot afford to let this congress create another crisis in the name of so-called fiscal responsibility. republican budget would make us less competitive in the global economy, cutting the investments on innovation and advanced manufacturing that are creating thousands of jobs in my congressional district and many others across the nation and keeping the american worker at the forefront of technological innovation. we continue the damage to medical research that sequestration started, undermining the national institutes of health and other leading creators of technological -- technologies, therapies, and stores that not only save lives but can dramatically reduce long-term health care cost. the republican budget would jeopardize our for -- future work force by slashing costs to $150 billion from higher education programs, freezing the maximum pell grant forever and eliminating expanded student loan repayments, benefits, and
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to lower student loan interest rates congress enacted and amanda mcmillan and 2010. finally, it would dramatically reduce funding for transportation and infrastructure, roads, bridges, and transit systems that are the backbone of our economy, giving a more of the most direct ways to create new jobs and grow our economy now. the frustrating thing about republican plans for job growth is that we tried it before, just in the last decade. where did we end up? the end of that experiment, we ended up losing 700,000 jobs a month. we simply cannot create jobs, grow our economy, insure access to opportunity and keep our nation competitive globally live slashing key federal investments and hoping for a miracle. i now yield two and a half minutes to my colleague for florida. >> i think my colleague from kentucky. this republican budget fails to address the challenges facing
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this great country. in fact, it is shirking its responsibility to do so. it suggests that america's best days are behind this and it favors of well-to-do over middle america. one of the overriding issues is that the republican budget would usher in an era of needless, reckless, austerity economic growth at a time when the economy is improving for many of our neighbors and businesses. republicans continue to turn a blind eye to the economic fact that more people working across america and lower unemployment reduces the deficit. economists including the congressional budget office advised that putting americans back to work is the fastest and most effective way to reduce the deficit. so absurdly the republicans propose in their budget to eliminate jobs in construction, infrastructure, eliminate jobs and education, eliminate jobs in
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science research. the republican budget, in doing this, undermines what makes america great and what makes america grow, education to research, infrastructure, like our courts, our airports and runways. these are the keys to economic growth and opportunity. one commentator, after looking at this budget, said it is really going to shred the economic building blocks of economic growth. in fact, experts looking at this budget came out just yesterday predict that the republican budget will result in 3 million fewer jobs in america. meanwhile what has been happening in the economy, things are getting better. the economy has grown the past four years. the u.s. stock market is up. we have 48 months of private sector job growth. yet american dramas continue to face headwinds because the demand is not there. we are not doing all the things
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that we need to do, and the federal government has to continue to be that important partner in economic growth. that is why when a budget is presented that can track economic growth and jobs, it is bad news for our country. just think about what will happen in your district to those all-important infrastructure initiatives in your local communities. you might have a university or research center that relies on the nih grant or the national science foundation. you might -- your economy might be dependent upon local law enforcement and the court system there will be heard and slow down as well. you might have an education to a district like mine with a lot of colors and even give -- universities, community colleges. students of a much tougher time under this budget. what is also quite disturbing is that while the republicans seek
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to cut education infrastructure, scientific research, they don't touch one special interest or corporate taxable to beat everyone understands, and the press has reported widely that there is -- that the balance here in washington is tip -- tilted toward the special-interest. so do not go after one special interest the pool. instead, put the burden on our working families and middle america and what makes america great is really a recipe for disaster. >> and now yield two minutes. >> part of my job when i get back to my try to translate what happens inside the beltway to relinquish. this is been called a series opposable. we all know it will not become law. it is not serious, the singular
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talking points that it balances the budget simply is not true. you look at the affordable care act, repeal of the benefits of the affordable care act the keep all the revenue in the savings which simply is not really true, or in the case of food stamps, you cut food stamps 100 toward $5 billion when the hen fights, this is so and reality it is not a serious proposal. their plenty of ways to look at it. on the other hand, it is very serious in the consequences to real people. the chairman called this a win- win maybe if you're in the second percentile of the wind. for the other 98 percent you will lose out producing years lose out, the middle class is out, students lose out, and small businesses out there really have had the doctor here to listen 2014 three-quarters our nation's deficit was due to economic weakness which means
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jobs. how'd you get the economy going? have been a small business are for 25 years. this budget cost 3 million jobs. a slight firing the entire work force of the state of wisconsin. because of not extending the sequester cuts, doubling down, and the real cuts that we see have consequences that affect real people. when you have tax breaks for people lesson jobs overseas and in cut research and development, cut sba loans, cut range of initiatives and nih funding, cut education and then the nfl minimum wage increase our immigration proposal that all affects real jobs. i think the only serious part about this is the public to seriously look at what is in this proposal because this is the reality if the republicans were ever in charge. i yield back. >> i think the gentleman and now yield two minutes to the gentleman from california.
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>> thank you mr. chairman. appreciate this opportunity to comment on the budget. i would just like to point out that this budget cost 3 million american jobs. does the way this budget the simple word, and it is important for everyone to understand that we're talking about the budget were talking about the most dynamic thing that congress can enact. it is unfortunate the we're contemplating this. in addition to that it's important for us to our member that this budget bin does not go after. this budget actually attacks those who are hard working american families. it might cost them as much as $2,000 in taxes every year for those families who are working hard, blue-collar families like the people i represent in the san fernando valley. it is important to note that on the budget has been talked about how we need to cut taxes. this budget protect the loopholes that are in place for
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those who make at least a million dollars a year. i think this budget is a statement about who is being projected into is being attacked. hard-working blue-collar americans are attacked. he go to work and get a paycheck at the end of the beaker the month this budget attacks you. if you're a person who has money to go make more money, this is the budget for you. in addition, it breaks promises to seniors. when you talk about how it is reopening the medicare coverage gap, that's something that seniors need to pay attention to because it could cause each senior as much as $12,000 more over several years. these are the kinds of things that are in the budget, and the kinds of things that i hope through the amendment process today we will be able to correct maybe we can ship this into a budget that is honest and be there for seniors and the working class americans. thank you. i yield back my time. >> i yield back the balance of my time.
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>> mr. chairman, i now yield ten minutes to the great state of wisconsin to talk about the impact of this republican budget on important economic security programs. >> thank you so much, mr. ranking member. let me start by saying that i want to acknowledge the chairman for engaging in the ongoing basis of the past year of the national dialogue on poverty. i do believe in my heart that chairman ryan sincerely wants to dialogue about our nation's continuing poverty crisis. however, i think actions speak louder than words. this document is back actionable i think that it clearly worsens and equality and deepens poverty in the united states. poverty is an enormous problem with 46 matt million americans living below the poverty level, and it affects all of our constituents camauro carbon,
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democrat, republican. sadly, the poor are isolated and families lived in disproportionately poor neighborhoods, less event is communities commensal for a lack of resources. i am aware because milwaukee which represent is number one in the nation where the poor are segregated and isolated. this republican budget unfortunately does not contain anti-poverty prevention and intervention strategies. on the contrary, it actually seeks to punish those who are struggling to climb out of poverty. it relies unfortunately on stereotypes, they don't want to work, the egregious cuts in food stamps where they say that they want to create work requirements from people. 80 percent of the people car elderly, disabled, or children.
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this budget also repeats the scene of past budgets striking fear in the parts of some of the most vulnerable population. continued to talk about the moral obligation to create opportunities, the 10,000 who are turning 65 every day to cut our social security and safety net programs. i am concerned about cutting $800 billion below sequester the on poor and vulnerable people and not -- on disappointed that this budget takes us in that direction. with that i would yield time to my distinguished colleague. >> thank you for yielding, congresswoman. there are major ideological constraints in this budget. after all, despite the fact that it is going to hurt are still recovering economy, the chairman
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has adopted the goal of balancing the budget engineers with drastic reductions. then necessary in order to meet that arbitrary goal. where are these reductions going to come from? well, there won't be any cuts in our defense budget. spending is actually going to increase. or not going to be asking millionaires and billionaires to give back any of the tax breaks and have inserted in the tax code, that makes sense. we're not going to be getting any meaningful savings of social security or medicare, although the budget does take the radical step of vouchers in each province and in in the medicare for retirees. by process of elimination where will the savings come from? the only slices of the pie left of the social insurance programs
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that help the poor and the middle-class of this country, and that's my barometer for looking at any budget when it comes from the president, you, ago harry. doesn't matter. as the bottom line to be 125 billion cuts that provide food to the poorest americans and the children and preventive 5 million americans from falling into poverty in 2012. there are $7,302,000,000 in cuts , billion in cuts for medicare. by converting them to a block grant, a total of one and a half trillion dollars in medicaid cuts. stand back. i said trillion dollars. when you throw in repealing the affordable care act, medicaid, expansion. according to the kaiser family foundation medicate and
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repealing the expansion of the program will result in between 30 and 40 million americans losing coverage. >> thank you so much. >> i would like to yield time now. >> thank you very much. let me thank the gentleman for yielding. i just have to say, mr. chairman, ranking member, once again we are confronted with the republican messaging document, really masquerading as a budget. the budget this year continues on last year's theme. unfortunately slashing the programs to keep our most vulnerable americans healthy, fed, and working. yes, this plan is cool. seniors on medicare will see their payments for services and prescription skyrocket and we would see an end to medicare guarantees is no. by converting snap to a block grant republicans once again are seeking to balance the budget on
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the backs of the most vulnerable by cutting. and this is a cut of our nation's first line of defense against under. at the same time, the republican budget continues longstanding abuses and wasteful defense spending, asking for even more than the pentagon requests. we simply cannot continue to write this blank check for spending if we are to have any chance of getting our fiscal house in order. it would have our real debate about our country's future, whether we will keep funding this endless war -- excuse me, this and the global war in afghanistan or are we going to continue or try to find food for hungry children, health care for seniors, early childhood education and 21st century jobs for the future. we have some choices, and i think this budget reflects the dichotomy and the choices that we are facing. should we eliminate the elsie l. account, on the pentagon, and
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the war in afghanistan or feed the hungry? this budget is really exploding beyond any reasonable measure of what a contingency fund should be. yes, it is really going to pay nearly all wartime operations out of a fund that was meant to be as small, emergency fund resulting in possibly less oversight, less certainty, and iron levels and if we eliminated the co-ceo and return to our board funding to the base defense budget. the single large arm of the federal government and for many reasons is unable to produce hon. financial statements. as the only federal agency not subject to an audit, the pentagon has lost tens of billions of dollars to waste, fraud, and abuse. >> thank you so much. we would reserve our time. >> we will now yield.
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>> thank you very much. i think it is important for my colleagues here, americans across the country to understand that this is anything but a responsible budget proposal. it is not a serious proposal, not at all. it is unfair, unbalanced, and frankly just totally unrealistic us look at the facts. we keep getting koop told a time and again democrats are coming to the table more willing to talk about the budget that is wrong. that's false. the president has come for several times over the last five years trying to me by republican colleagues halfway. each time he has pushed away. each time he is pushed away.
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in never anticipated the baby boomers, nor did our tax policy. there has to be serious tax reform. the republican budget is not serious. its own tax-writing chairman tells us it is not serious. this budget assumes you will get down to a 25% tax rate individual in carper wines. they spent four years trying to make that happen. he could not do it. the best it could do is a 35% tax rate for the top wage earners in this country. this is false. this is misleading, disingenuous and here's another point that americans have to understand. you talk about repealing obamacare, this bill, this budget does not do that. it keeps all the savings and the medicare program that we got back in 2010, it keeps all the tax revenues from those that will benefit from the program to balance their budget. there are not appealing
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affordable care, another phony claim. most egregious of all, this budget balances itself on the backs of seniors. seniors have to wake up and understand what's going on. there are the ones that the cost is being shifted to. the government can reduce its cost 30% in medicare by doubling of the cost to the seniors themselves. that's wrong. they are on fixed incomes. they can't afford this. this budget is a sham. i would hope they get voted out of office of the vote for this. they are trying to placate their right wing extremists at the behest of our senior citizens. i think that's a travesty. but that i yield. >> i would like to thank the distinguished gentleman from oregon for yielding. the republican budget is unfair, on balance, and unrealistic.
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it is an inherently unfair document that balances itself on the backs of young americans, working families, the middle class, senior citizens, the port, the sick, and the afflicted. that is not even an exhaustive list. whenever we level the charge democrats and accused of using rhetorical scare tactics to frighten the american people. it's a cute response, but even a cursory analysis of the republican budget reveals that it is a house of horrors. house republicans led the charging getting 8 billion in nutritional assistance for hungry americans. apparently that cut was not harsh enough. it would turn it into a block grant and cut an additional 125 billion from this important safety net program. there are books and 50 million americans who are food and secure and more than 15 million a children.
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these americans will be devastated. that is not rhetoric. that's reality. the proposed budget would cut higher education funding by hundred $91 billion putting college out of reach for millions of students. these cuts are compass by dramatically reducing programs and making undergraduate students with financial needs pay interest on their loans while still in school. we are robbing our students of a fair shot at the american dream before they even get on the playing field of life. that's not rhetoric. that's reality. the republican plan turns medicare and soon of voucher program that would end medicare as we not the reason is will be required to pay substantially more for preventive health services and prescription drugs. ..
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[inaudible] >> thank you mr. van hollen. those of us who have been here for a while i think it's important for us to go back and talk for 30 seconds about what happened when we were here. we had at the end of the clinton administration a balanced
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economic plan. we asked the wealthiest and that's is what i want to ask my colleagues, we have all of these problems, catastrophes are on the way. budgets are going out of balance and are out of balance. we have to fix them immediately that not one member from the majority party has the courage to ask the wealthiest in the country for any crowd -- contribution at all. but we have this huge problem, this huge catastrophe, this huge budget issue that we have to deal with nobody has the guts to ask the people that raise all the money that go into the campaigns to just pay a little bit more. the people making hundreds of millions of dollars a year. to me that doesn't make any since when we could take some of that money and softened some of the blows that are going to be taken by middle-class people in the united states. we are going to roll back health
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care. we are going to ask college students to pay for their loans while they are in school. just for the idea of balancing a budget in 10 years. what if we asked these wealthy people for a little bit more money? we also have to compete with china so we have to make investments into advanced manufacturing the 15 institutes the president wants to set up public-private partnerships. we have to invest into infrastructure roads and bridges just in akron ohio alone $1.2 billion they are going to have to invest into their combined overflow system. raising rates for average families driving people to the suburbs so we can build more roads more sewers more sidewalks and more public investment. it doesn't make any sense. we have a philosophy and the opportunity to create jobs but it's a balanced approach. its investments in research. its investments in manufacturing. it its investments in
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three-dimensional printing. its investments in getting a workforce prepared to go into jobs in manufacturing and three-dimensional printing and talking about natural gas exploration. the only reason we can get the natural gas of the ground now is because of the public ardor ships we have invested in i appreciate the gentleman's courtesy and print -- i heard my friend talk about how we do these issues. i heard my friend mr. kohl being concerned because the president didn't have the chained cpi in his budget. it seems to me that this budget from my republican friends for all the rhetoric is in fact sidestepping. not only do they not have chained cpi in their budget there's nothing about social security. i know mr. ribble has some ideas.
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he could come together and do something but it doesn't raise revenue and it doesn't cut benefits. kicks the can down the road on social security. i don't think that's facing up. it doesn't deal with medicaid. give me a break. he keeps all the money from the affordable care act. it takes away the mechanisms that could promote some adjustment in the give senior citizens obamacare that the public option. it kicks chairman camp in the teeth. there are three of us on this committee to work on ways & means watching the effort to enact reform and was a valiant effort that was revenue natural. it reduced taxes and gave what republicans said they wanted and it didn't come close. we are not embracing tax reform. we are doing something that's even more unrealistic and not talking about it in any details on turning your back on three years of hard work by dave camp.
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it punishes states with cuts to nursing home services that are keyed directly to elderly and disabled who are going to get pounded at the end of this cycle and it ignores the infrastructure deficits where a bipartisan group of governors where 31 state executives of state wide chambers of commerce provide resources were infrastructure investment. this budget turns their back on it and freezes for a 30% reduction. i hope within the course of debate on amendments we might be able to make a little progress in narrowing this opportunity. >> i yield two minutes to the gentleman from michigan. >> thank you. thank you mr. chairman and ranking member van hollen
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especiallespeciall y for welcoming me to this important committee at this very important time. i think we know in this country what it takes to grow our economy and as a result reduce the deficit that we hear so much about that is so important that we address. the american people understand which unfortunately too many people in this body fail to grasp is that the way to grow our economy is to make sure the people who go to work every day earn a living wage that allows them to not have to live below the poverty line. what we would oppose is an economy that's based on the principle that if you work 40 hours a week you ought not live in poverty. the american people also know that the way we grow jobs and grow this economy is by investing in the infrastructure. it was mentioned by a member on the other side that we ought to
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measure our defense spending based upon what the russians and the chinese are spending in terms of defense. i would suggest a different comparison. we have to take a look at the percentage of gdp that the chinese are spending on infrastructure. it dwarfs what we are willing to invest as a percentage of our economy on the essential infrastructure investments that will grow our economy and help grow the jobs that will ultimately not only balance the budget for a more sustainable economy that make the american people more prosperous and more broadly enjoy that prosperity. the american people know if we are serious about growing our economy and having a balanced budget that we would embrace comprehensive immigration reform yet when we hear from the other side is either silence or equivocal -- in a way that allows for opportunity for all
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americans. we would not be doing with this budget would do and that is cut spending to support affordable college education. we want to grow the economy and reduce the deficit the most important thing we can do is to make sure that every young person in this country that aspires to do better that aspires to do the best that they can absolutely be can attend a college or university or get the kind of training that will grow the skills that with them to work and allow them to contribute to the economy. thank you gentlemen. we yield back. >> we will yield seven and a half minutes to mr. met dermott to lead a discussion about different approaches to making sure we keep our commitments to seniors and others. >> thank you mr. ranking member. i'm going to talk to the people who watch this on television
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because nobody in this room is listening. half of our decide which side they are going to be on in this ryan budget is simply an acceleration to build an america that only bid if that's the cribbage view on the backs of middle-class. today new york our largest city filled with men working to win three minimum-wage jobs you can afford a roof over their head and yet the ryan budget fails to offer comprehensive job plant or refuses to even talk about the wage increase. the ryan budget is called the path of prosperity but what the budget needs is the path to greater prosperity for the already prosperous. in my home district of seattle the city's housing authority ran a lottery for 2000 more people to go on the waiting list. 23,000 eligible people applied and yet the bright -- ryan budget doesn't fault the department of housing. instead they offer up a healthy
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dose of disgraceful tea party propaganda about the free market system, corporate welfare and how building housing for the poor is a distortion of capital. the clock is ticking on opportunity in america. mr. ryan has written his budget to back up his fraudulent rhetoric about how the social safety net mayor continued dependency and complacency and how are our nation's most vulnerable citizens are at fault for their own economic failure. you folks out there who are poor or who have had troubles it's your fault. the government has no responsibility to deal with it. unfortunately we will reap what is being sown by these extremist republicans in congress. we will all pay the price in the final accounting mr. ryan ignores the fundamental truth about america that protecting those who are vulnerable or in our society and investigating the american people that is what it's made this country great
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economically and morally and yet this 2015 budget a nation that no longer thrives on opportunity for all. i yield to mr. hoffman for two and a half minutes. >> i thank the gentlemen. appreciate the opportunity to comment on a budget that certainly is -- for the koch brothers but would bring pain and austerity for most americans it nowhere is that more of a parent in the area of health care. we have heard the arguments despite the gop's relentless pr machine and unprecedented attempt to prevent health care reform from succeeding. the fact is we are already expanding health care coverage protecting consumers and controlling costs through the affordable care act. the numbers are impressive, 7.1 million people signed up so far for coverage. more than 3.1 million young adults now able to continue on
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their parents planned, 360,000 small employers using the small business health care tax credit to expand coverage to 2 million workers. for the first time help lance must include the essential benefits like prescription drugs paternity newborn care mental health and pediatric services and the united states for the first time in decades is experiencing a historic slowdown in the growth of health care costs. the affordable care act is good for our budget. the cbo estimates the savings of $147 billion by 2020. we are making lots of progress in the area of health care reform. the number one driver of our projected that in the future health care costs is for the first time coming under control. the number one cause of bankruptcy before the affordable care act people simply getting sick without health coverage is being addressed. this budget frames i think a very important choice for the
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people of america in 2014. do we build on this progress? do we improve on these reforms and continued to move forward or do we turn the clock back to the broken system and the broken finances that president obama inherited in 2009? i yield the balance of my time. [inaudible] >> thank you mr. chairman and thank you to my colleagues. more than 45 million seater citizens and persons with disabilities rely on medicare to guarantee their health security including people like my mother. medicare has long been a leader in developing innovative ways to contain health care costs while protecting access to high-quality care. we have heard it about a couple of those but haven't focused enough time on things like disease management and chronic disease prevention and prescription drug management all
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components in the current medicare system which under the ryan budget would cease to exist in its current context. republican budget once again eliminates guaranteed health benefits for seniors and people with disabilities. this budget immediately increases seniors costs by 11% and it shifts more costs onto seniors over time. seniors who want to choose traditional medicare would see their premiums rise by as much as 56%. the average medicare recipient has a median income of $23,500. how will they be able to afford these increases? in addition the republican budget he's 140 billion in sequester cuts to providers instead of building the health health care and the structure which we need to care for retiring baby boomers and we also know if we invest infrastructure we can see up to a 30% increase in the health care economy. the republican budget increases
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costs for seniors with people for disabilities by establishing a voucher plan that provides limited payments to medicare beneficiaries to purchase health care in a private health insurance market. it weakens traditional medicare causes it to wither away by diverting the healthiest enrollees in the private plan and undermining traditional medicare's ability to control costs while offering access to a broad range of providers. this is a bad deal for seniors. it's a deal they can afford especially for seniors like my mother who lives with me in the two of us don't have the extra income necessary to pay for these exchanges. it's a bad deal for seniors and a bad deal for caregivers. so bad deal for families. it's a bad deal for america. thank you and i yield back. >> mr. chairman i want to take my remaining time and say the real irony of this budget after all we have had in the last four years of attacks on obamacare is
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that varied in this budget we are now saying to senior citizens hey folks we are going to put you into obamacare is. we are going to give you assistance to go out into the private sector and buy your own health care. good luck folks if you are over 65 because you were going to have to go through what everybody else has been going through in this country in the last six months dealing with insurance companies and you have pre-existing conditions they won't be able to say anything about your pre-existing conditions but that is what is buried in here. the very plan that is going to attack left right-center by the right the koch brothers and the whole bunch and "fox news" is going to be the plate of the senior citizens in this country if this budget were to pass. praise god it won't pass.
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>> i yield back four minutes to the gentleman from texas. >> thank you very much mr. van hollen. mr. ryan i want to say i'm pleased to be back on the committee. i salute your professionalism in the operation of this committee and the respect and courtesy that you showed each member. the only difference is we have our substantive differences about the best way to move this forward, this country forward economically. i also salute you mr. chairman for the effort that you made in december to reach a bipartisan agreement concerning how we handled the budget this year and for the following year. it was a modest agreement and like you and everyone else i had to bite hard to go along with the agreement but it did have the effect of assuring that we would -- the country would be off cruise control this year that we would have no more government shutdown
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fanaticism, that there could be certainty to the way that we budget and i think it was an accomplishment. unfortunately it appears from this budget proposal that was just a pause in the partisan warfare and that instead of continuing to try to build on that bipartisan approach, a balanced approach that we are back really -- it's as if i've never left the committee because i've seen this movie before. i was here mr. chairman for your die-hard budget. i was here for your die-hard to budget. it is true i've missed a good die-hard budget that you had last year but now i am back this year for the dye hard with a vengeance budget. like the movie sequels this one has not really improved though there are many aspects of it
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that are quite similar to what we have considered year after year and i think the result will be pretty much the same. as a campaign document to rally the technical republican primary vote or i think this represents a fine bit of ideology but it's an agenda for operating the number that bears no similarity to the december bipartisan agreement and it would really be an economic disaster that smacks of inequity. i think it is in fact a pathway not to prosperity but to more debt into a steady decline in american economic leadership, and american economy that will lag as it fails to invest in developing a highly-skilled workforce. we are to have a shortage in our stem workforce in science and technology workforce where we are relying on imported labor to
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fulfill some of those critical positions. this does not make the kind of investment necessary to balance to have a competitive workforce in the future. it is a budget that does not allow us to make the investment in research that will assure that we are the country and the world that is the source of innovation that we have that basic research in medical research and other types of research. it doesn't make the investment in ensuring a healthy workforce. it doesn't is mr. blumenauer as pointed out make the investment to assure that we have the kind of transportation infrastructure that our competitors around the world are building. we feel that there needs to be more balance in the approach and that in looking at balance is not just a matter of looking at the balance in dollar terms but
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it's looking at the balance in terms of opportunity in terms of the opportunity for a young person to achieve and in terms of the opportunity for seniors to retire without all of the risks of retirement incorporated shifted to them. we will be offering amendments today to try to minimize the harm and a more complete talents budget proposal next week as an alternative and i yield back. >> thank you mr. doggett. just in conclusion let me end where we started which is these budget decisions are about choices we make and one choice is to try to empower more americans and provide a greater ladder of opportunity so more people can participate in a growing economy and responsibly reduce or long-term deficits and a balanced way where we ask for shared responsibilities. we ask everybody to participate.
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unfortunately once again this republican budget does not ask for any shared sacrifice. it doesn't ask for one dime for closing special interest tax loopholes for the purpose of deficit reduction, not one. when you take that off the table it means you have to hit everybody else harder. that's just simple math in mr. chairman we keep hearing this word reform. that's just another word for -- there's no budget. when it comes to food and nutrition just cut it when it comes to medicate you just cut it. we would welcome the idea of a plan that reforms these programs but the assumption of budget reforms always means you are spending less resources on an issue. maybe we can make these things more efficient. we are welcome to those ideas. we would love to do it that every time you all say reform in this budget you don't show a better way to do it. you just show a way to cut
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resources and when you cut resources to education it means your kids are getting the kind of classroom education they need when you just cut higher ed means colleges less affordable. it's hard to square those deep cuts to education k-12 really education college education with this notion that you want to help more people expand opportunity. you are taking down those ladders of opportunity. so our proposal and the president's proposal calls for a growing economy partly by borrowing from the things that worked in the past in terms of investments in our economy but the same time making sure we reduce her long-term deficits in a way that calls for shared responsibility. in this country we have always had to import and streams. is that we want everybody out there to take and milk the most
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of their individual talents. we want to make sure we reward success. that's a good thing but we also recognize there are some things we can do better as americans together. you mentioned debt spending. that's a common public investment for the common good. we think in the port to make investments in education for the common good. we think when our fellow americans are falling through the safety net we should catch them. those are investments that you cut and that's a reflection of what people consider to be important and not in port and that is why this debate is important to the american public as we go to the walk through and learn more about your budget we will have amendments that will reflect choices for this community along the lines we have been talking about. >> all time has expired and opening presentations. we will now proceed with the concurrent resolution on the budget. staff is available to answer questions that members may have.
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i would urge members to please keep your questions to factual and technical questions. staff is not here for debate. that is what members are here for. the staff is here to answer technical questions. we will have plenty of time for debate. are there any members that have questions for staff? >> mr. chairman i want to encourage my colleagues as they have questions to let us know. do you have a question right out of the box? >> ms. moore. >> i the question about food stamps. and the cuts in the food stamp program. is there an assumption in the budget that these cuts -- i'm sorry. i will pass until i find it. >> so members are new.
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the counsel for the budget committee the middle is austin smythe and the staff director on the right is john burns the policy director. >> i and sorry mr. chairman. i have gathered my thoughts. i would like to know the policy changes in the snap block grant. obviously you are assuming a snap block grant and what are the changes to the snap program and the savings over 10 years, the assumptions in the savings they will bring? >> the chairman smark assumes we move to an allotment of block grant to give states greater flexibility and in food stamps. we would start that in 2019. the total savings over 10 years is $125 billion. >> 125 billion? we have two other reforms in addition to moving to an
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allotment to the states. one is or three reforms. one is eliminating categorical eligibility. the other is to eliminate by qualifyinqualifyin g for low energy assistance programs gets into food stamps in the third is to provide for those able-bodied adults to require work requiremerequireme nts for able-bodied adults. >> what are the savings assumed by the work requirement? >> pardon a? >> the savings to the work requirement. >> the total savings are $137 million. >> all right, thank you. >> ms. castor. >> yes thank you mr. chairman. i have a question about the republican budget cuts to the pub grandin student loans and
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college students. the chronicle of higher education reported today that the institute for college success has reviewed the budget and according to its analysis the budget would for students to borrow even more dropout or forgo college altogether and indeed when you look at the budget it appears to say that republicans are cutting mandatory pal and other higher ed funding over 10 years to the tune of $150 billion. what does your analysis say on how many students will have to forgo college because of these increases? >> we don't have an estimate in terms of what the impact is. it's important to look at some history on this program and the enormous growth of the program program. the president himself has indicated in his state of the union a couple of years ago we will run out of money if we don't find a way of reforming
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our programs in the budget. >> that was chewed during the great recession when we are falling behind but in the bipartisan agreement that increase mandatory spending and that was a bipartisan agreement. this proposal is different from that, isn't it? >> yes, maam. >> let me go back because you said you don't know how many would have to forgo college. do you know how many would have to borrow more money? >> in the student loan program, it depends on what you are talking about. on student loans we have to reforms income-based repayment basically the expansion of the program done a couple of years back. we have roll that back to its pre-expansion and eliminating in school subsidies for undergraduates so the budget also carries that. ..
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>> i think it is important to note there is not enough money in the president's budget for what you propose. the shortfall. >> we're not talking about that but

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