[applause] [inaudible conversations] >> to save your and the sixth extension is serious the reason we are and some say we're only on the verge bbb can still prevent it and others say we are deep into its olivetti is we're changing the world very,

very radically and very fast not unlike an asteroid and in fact, you will hear and i have heard scientists say this time he bin beings are the asteroid. how are we changing the world on the asteroid like scale? there are a lot of ways but i will just focus on three tonight how we change the atmosphere, the oceans and what charles darwin called the principles of geographical distribution. starting with the atmosphere. every year we add 10 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide to the atmosphere for the most part from burning fossil fuels. you although this why will not be labor it. it is ordinary stuff we drive cars, turn on lights lights, a 7.2 billion people on the planet right now and

that adds up. what we do when we burn fossil fuels we take carbon that was buried in the earth over hundreds of millions of years transferring into the atmosphere so running a geological history backward at a very high speed and taking a process that took hundreds of millions in one direction and to run in another with centuries if you were in the engine could conclude but we we're doing the fundamental purpose of modern industrialized society is to affect the transfer as quickly as possible. >> the people have spoken is the newest book and they are wrong. what are the people wrong about david? >> everything at some point. [laughter] that is the problem. but more importantly but we

are wrong and covers others to act a certain way with the social norms is democracy is the problem because we coerce people to change and undermine their freedom because of coercion and democracy is of the majority so the larger government intrude on everyday life and some more democracy matters the more we can compartmentalizes. >> host: are you talking specifically about campaigns it? >> guest: no. growth of federal government mostly. in trading on it states. it is of philosophical problem with democracy also but we have to remember our federalist routes -- routes and how to decide.

>> host: so if not democracy they and what? >> the world is not perfect but to have some type to elect people to run things what we don't need to do is have decide what marriage looks like, a health care books like, what our committee looks like. you have to localize that. there is no perfect system there is the structure we get away from what makes us great. >> host: hata to reduce that? >> we don't have huge projects like obamacare and they just don't point the finger at democrats no child left behind undermines

control and also rather than local democracy. >> host: there never was of a democracy -- we really are not a democracy it is the cliche but there is a lot of truth. >> where do we go? >> we will be headed in the wrong direction for a while. you have washington deciding if it needs health care by pressuring governors and people to pay for the gay abutting. i am not for gay marriage

but for the government to get out because what kind of relationship do i have in my life if nobody is hurt? i am a libertarian but democracy consistently undermines that. >> host: we interviewed and author who said to throw away the constitution from georgetown law? >> guest: that is a terrible idea obviously. it is provocative i don't know what he wants to replace it with. it was written by men at so you can change it and there are ways to do that progress has been done many times. i think generally speaking it is a fine document to centralized government for the most individual freedom possible. >> so to see the need for

congress and senate? >> i do. but it plays an important role of our lives. we are not educated on the topics we vote on that how many people did not of the difference between medicaid and medicare their voting on policy when they go for the president. if the voters are problem but i don't know if there is a better system to keep centralized government in place at one of their work any better but there are a lot of things we could do to fix it. >> host: name another example.

>> just education and policy of every president lately gives mississippi the same needs as vermont. i've lived in colorado for many years there is bolder possibly the most liberal then colorado springs one of the most conservative people should be allowed to live in those communities or have vouchers to teach kids would never their values are. i don't think people that lived in those communities that teach witchcraft so people will do the right thing on their own. >> so when it comes to that does it get rid of the energy department or department of education?

>> i live in a theoretical world and the real world but that will not happen let's be honest the best we can do is rely starting with obamacare that probably will never be repealed but that is reality moving forward to have laboratories of democracy. >> what about direct election of senators? >> i think if the states legislature elected senators there would be less concerned about national policy and more about their states which is what i think the founders had intended

the we're not changing the constitution in the near future but i think the original way was far superior. >> host: david you talk about the bandwagon effect. but is that? >> there has always been a debate many years and then all of a sudden there is the bandwagon effect then if the president says it is okay then it must be then they gathered around the issue and people that are guilty of that are in culture and everything so i don't know why it is with the political issue. tons of americans believe in astrology and ufo's that make me not want them to

make decisions for me. >> host: what does the constitution say? >> guest: no. democracy is not mentioned. i disagree with the founders i think they have a rosy view what it would be like. no one thought that democracy specifically centralized federal democracy and had never imagined that. he would be surprised when i told my parents the book i was writing but you don't think of the democracy as the process as moral but something that is positive meaning freedom but democracy at -- democracy in russia and elsewhere does not manifest into liberty. what was your original

question? >> what does the constitution say about democracy? [laughter] >> to people across the political spectrum? >> i was going to say you'd be surprised how many i will give you an example. a lot of people want people in the federal reserve to open up their files to participate but can you imagine having everyone talk about the federal reserve? they understand why things are happening but some people know more about something we have to allow them to run whenever institution free talk about. >> host: we have been talking with author of the most recent book the people have spoken and they are wrong. . .

ms. walsh and her used -- interviewed dozens of women. the book focuses on how difficult was it was for these three women to lead divided lives between their careers and their families even after the women's liberation movement. you can watch an encore presentation now here on book tv.