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inbreeding and line breeding and without getting to into the weeds with breeding freshmans we are funneling genetics and there is a desired outcome we are trying to accomplish with a breeding program and you have to double up on the qualities. but when you double up on the good ones you double up on the bad ones. so this isn't a good idea to inbreed dogs. it has to be absolute text book examples of what you are trying to accomplish and then you have to be very careful with it. again, thank you. that is all of the time we have but i appreciate you coming out. [ applause ] >> william faulk says edward
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snowden's links are criminal and anyone publishing them should be charged. here is a little of what he said: >> it has been suggested that edward snowden by high level people in government we should consider an amnesty deal and he would turn himself in and give back the documents. do you think that is a good idea? >> and what will be do? ask china and russia to give them back and expect them to do so without copying them? get real. the damage has been done. this is a man who has betrayed the trust and confidence placed in him by this own government and by extension his own people. he has done who go knows what
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daj damage to his country. he is willing to be best buddies with the most dangerous enemies the country has. he has made clear where his sympathy and values lie and we want to him amnesty. >> this is an hour on the book of code name by johnny walker. >> first of all, thank you, everybody for coming out. we will wing it here and keep it easy. we will take it are it goes. a lot of people have been asking
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where and why did this book come about and why did you write this book and i have to say the book actually started in a way i have been working on this book for almost four years now. while i was working on americ"an snip sniper" who i wrote with chris kyle and we were hanging out one night and looking at pictures and one came up of some guys who were about to go out on a seal mission and one was taller than the other in the room and was wearing a slightly different uniform and i said who is that big guy. and chris was texting and looks at me and says well that is the original iraqi i ever trusted with a gun.
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and i thought that was pretty interesting. tell me about that. he told me it was a translator they called johnny walker and chris told me about the missions. i write fiction and the stories that chris was telling me sounded so remarkable and thrilling than what i came up with almost stopped writing. we put johnny into the book and he changed his name and background because we were worried at the time and thought he was still in iraq. our book came out, "american sniper" came out and chris was doing a book signing, i think, in california. johny went out and showed up.
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and chris told the story later on and he said i called him up there and i thought he was dead. and called him up and made him stand up in front of the room and told everyone the truth that johnny walker -- chris kyle is known as a many who saved a lot of seal and iraqi lives and chris told that crowd and told everybody he could that johnny walker saved more seals and more americans and iraqis than chris every could. it is remarkable story. i am not sure if it was the next day but soon after chris got ahold of our editor who has been a big help for us and said peter, you are doing this book, boy because this man is important. and that is where we started. so johnny, tell us a little bit,
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you were born in iraq, tell us about that. >> first, i want to thank you for your support and i apologize for my broken english, b. i want to thank matt. that guy, i met him in 2003 and this is the first time i saw him all of this year. >> matt is an army veteran. [ applause ] he put a lot on the line for us. tell us about yourself. >> i was born in 1964. i grew up like a normal child and played basketball and high jump and all of my dreams was i want to live in america one day.
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and unfortunately marriage and having kids but my dream was to disappear and go to america and i didn't have any chance. in my heart i said this is wrong. i deserve this chance and i am the best one for this job. i found work with military police. >> wait a second! the problem with johnny is he is a little too humble. here is what happened. he was trying to get scribget je a while. the americans were very honored because they liberated the country and johnny tried to get a job, didn't get a job, and we go into more details but he had
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enough money to buy a pack of cigarettes or his kid's lunch or a taxi to go back. he decided the mechanic with the taxi and the kids are have the lunch and i can buy 2-3 cigarettes. he is walking home and it isn't the greatest area. he comes upon mt and discussions with iraqi ladies. tell us about that. >> we are walking -- by accident i talked on this side and three females walk on the right side and i heard them talking bad things about the american forces. this is what i need to have enough money to supply my kids and i am going to end up fighting with the police without
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anything because part of the condition was i have to protect our women no matter what. so anyway, i am thinking this is what i should do. and i came up with plan. i had to go to the military police and ask him can you let me fix this issue? and they give me this chance, maybe i will write to make the females avoid issues with the military police and everyone is going to be happy >> so basically you were a marriage counselor? >> at the time basically. the females come up and i know them and the background of them and i said what are you doing and when they looked at me they looked like we are so sorry. we didn't mean to do anything.
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i told them you have one option. you have to go to your house or you can have something bad with me. so the sergeant when he saw what i did with the female, he asked me if i can work with them and i told him i would love it. why not. and at that time, one of the boyfriends for the girls, one of the girls, he came to me and started talking. >> johnny just asked if we could use a bad word. >> anyway, he came to me and started giving me a hard time and talking bad word about me and my family and it was like i am done with you. and i watch him and i beat him, his face was bloody and i don't
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know, whatever. ribs broken. and the police told me stop, just leave him, you work with us for now. >> just a sidenote on that story. sergeant bird was out of contact with johnny for several months after that and just recently because of the book got in touch with johnny again. and that has beening of the grit sidenotes and a lot of the men and women that served with him in iraq have been getting in touch with him. johnny went to work with the mp as an interrupter and made such a great name for himself that when the seals came to the area a few months later on they heard
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of the toughest interrupter in iraq and they asked for johnny walker. and sergeant bird was not sure about giving up, but he did. and you started working with the seals and johnny did you know what seals were at first? >> no. the first time i when hear about seals i said what does that mean? i could not find it anywhere and my english wasn't good. i have no clue what i am dealing with. and it was like what i am doing and what i'm going to do. i love america but those people are scary in different clothes and such. i remember the first mission i worked for them the guy who i walked with was like stop, look and go.
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and i don't know if we can make enterance to the house so they leave the door and i have no review and nothing so i was like we are under attack and i start to run away and the guy ran up to me, caught me and said we ju just opened the door >> you didn't tell them that on the first mission, johnny, showed up and they told him he wasn't allowed to bring his weapons. but orderinarily in ir-- ordin y ordinaryly in iraq -- everyone has a weapon. what did you bring? >> a knife. >> and how big was it? >> this big. >> i heard the story from this guy it was more like this big.
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johnny started going with the seals and there was one incident that cemented your relationship with the seals. you want to talk about the one where the man was wounded. >> one of missions, i am kind of new in this environment and i don't know what is going on, but it looked like this was the way to support by family and find the bad guys. we went to one of the targets and we wanted to take that house and that type of mission toward the election next day. we went inside and this guy from that house started shooting at us. and at that time i have no weapon and i show a guy who was injured on his arm. i was like what should i do and the only thing i do was i want
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to chase them. i go after them. and i don't know if i am going to lose my life but it is worth it. so i go out and there is a chief i i cannot mention his name, but he said i fought that guy and they started trusting me and considered me as a brother and part of the circle. >> the significance there was there a lot of people that were interrupters and they were kept back behind the lines when there was any combat. johnny is being a little modest in that story. according to the seals there, johnny ran forward and there was a gunfire going on and johnny grabbed them, brought them back and they were quite impressed at that point and from that point on johnny was actually a brother
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of the seals. i think it can be difficult to people who are not seals to understand what an honor that is. you can hang out with seals. you can be, even from other special forces and operations guy, and not be considered a brother. and johnny they trusted him with their backs. what does that feel like, johnny? i mean, with these americans who you had known, how did you feel towards them? >> i don't know. i feel like they are my family and they do a good job to my country and i will do anything to help make the mission succeed. but it is a huge honor for me to get from this from officers and everyone coming to me and supporting me. it was a huge thing to me.
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>> now, johnny started in one area but the seals are missions across the countries and you travelled a lot. where did you go? >> we went to most of the iraqi cities and towns and at the end i ended up in baghdad. >> and baghdad was like going to miami at the time. they loved you? >> that time it was like a huge fire fly between the extremist and several of them trying to blow up at that time and they
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c cannot do anything by themselves so they needed the seals to protect them and we started targeting the bad guys. ... i want to ask my kids who is going to be sunni and who's going to be shia. so i told my wife -- and who is
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going to be sunni and who is going to be shia. she said i'm shia so they'll raise their their hand and they said i'm shia. [laughter] >> interesting thing is that not only before the american war but before the sunni awakening you lived in mosul and welfare were sunni and shia and it happens to be an area where there is more sunni. there wasn't religious animosity there weren't people shooting at each other because they were sunni and shia. unfortunately what was the situation? >> it looks like the continental divide by sunni sheik --
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cities and shia cities and kurdish bases. >> basically now there is a lot of violence and issues. johnny's wife was in baghdad, i'm sorry. excuse me. johnny's wife was in mosul and you are in baghdad. can you tell us what happened? you didn't actually know what happened. tell us about that story. >> so after they killed my brother and started targeting may we told everyone i had run away to syria or jordan so no one could find my family. anyway they found my wife and they sent my wife a letter telling her she would be the next target and that they would kill her. the next day she moved to
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baghdad. >> wait a second. there's a lot more to that story though. first of all johnny's wife is an incredible woman and we go into more detail in the book. she was threatened quite a lot and thought she was going to die several moments. finally the episode when she got the bullet she decided she just had to go to baghdad because that was where johnny was. to this point johnny's relatives have been protecting his wife and she decided she had to go. she packed the kids up and they went in a van that was kind of the equivalent of a minibus service here and let's say it was four hours and we are kind of rounding things out. about two hours into the trip
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they were stopped by some terrorists and they took them out of the boston they checked them and they were basically threatening to kill them. fortunately the terrorists were not looking for johnny's family thank god. they were looking for some other person that they had been assigned to kill. they stayed there for several hours and johnny's wife had their four kids. they were pretty much thinking they were going to die until the terrorists apparently called whoever had assigned them to kill these people, to kill the person and thank god the person that said no ... people go. that's not the target. they drove to baghdad. johnny didn't know the story until we were working on the bok johnny's wife was telling me the story. she and i are sitting in the
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kitchen and johnny is over there listening and he starts going, interesting. what? his eyes become the size of the space. it was pretty scary. >> yes. speak for me my kids and my wife is all michael life. i ended up with all of these bad things and bad people. when they talked with my wife about these kind of details i freaked out. >> fortunately she is fine and the kids are fine but unfortunately we kind of skipped over a story there where your brother was assassinated. maybe we should tell that story on how your brother came to die. >> so my brother wanted him a
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chance to work to support his family. anyway i talked to the iraqi army. one day they came to him and they faced him and shot him, three guys are four guys. and knott. >> that was because they couldn't get you. you have to know the story about you and dealing with the story. i think that's your story. why don't you tell that. >> so one of the days i went to the base.
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the seals top may always don't trust anyone outside of the team i always thought about -- you don't. [inaudible] so anyway i would drove my car and saw them behind me with two guys one with a long beard and a passenger was about 20 years old. i'm thinking what's going on? at that time may be mad know in 2004 there is no assassination or killing. anyway i make it enough in my mind that this is what i'm going to do. soon they will come close to me and i can ambush the guys and
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maybe it will give me time to confuse them if they have any plan to kill me. one of the guys shot and at that time i always kept my head covered between the two windows. i stopped the car and they took my ak. i did that because they would have chased a man killed my family. >> then what happened? you killed them in the crowd start to gather and then what happened? >> people started asking me what was going on. all of them basically said good
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job, awesome. >> johnny was able to escape from that by claiming that the people he killed were actually the people that were working with the americans. he went back and made sure that his family was okay. johnny told me that story. that was one of the first stories that johnny told me and when he told me that we have talked before and we really mad. i went out to san diego and johnny, you know we had lunch and we had started work on a book. i said let's just hang out and chill. what do you like to do and he said i like to take a walk down by the water. so we went out to a boardwalk on vero beach only walked out there and johnny just started talking. i have to say chris was a good
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friend and if chris asked me to do something i would absolutely do it. even if chris hadn't been involved and even in if peter hubbard hadn't asked me after walking out on that boardwalk and talking to johnny and trying to get a feel for him i knew i had to write this book. so i thought what we do since this is related to books that we would do a little bit of a reading. johnny's going to read the entire book. [laughter] no, i will take my story what i just said. in writing the book i took my story and johnny's story and i think the color of the car has changed a couple of times. >> i will read from the book. >> we will just go with it.
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my america is your america and your america is mine. it's a refuge in a dream, place of freedom and respite responsibility and wonder. to have arrived here after the journey i took after the bombs and gunfire and killings the beheadings and kidnappings and the dangers after everything that has happened in my life the idea that i am free now and the knowledge fills me with gravity. i'm thankful for every moment and every breath and i'm grateful to the seals who risk their lives for my family, grateful for the sacrifices of other servicemen and women, grateful to my neighbors and new friends who welcomes me to this land of large dreams and open skies. every day i live the dream, my dream. my dream began amid a nightmare merger is war in iraq that destroyed not only the lives of many of my friends and relatives
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but of an entire country and culture. that destruction began long before the war i fought in, long before the conflict began. iraq was a broken country a place ruled more by fear them by law. a place where making a decent living was for many an impossible dream. the american war brought hope to the disenfranchised iraqis but soon that hope evaporated replaced by violence and bloodshed. the americans were an excuse but not the cause of that nightmare. the hatred and villainy engendered to what had been my country and its effects continue to this day. i am far from that now. today on a cool morning in san diego i walk out on the pier at imperial each infield the wind push against my body tearing at my clothing and sandpaper in my face. it's a wonderful feeling. at 6:00 in the morning to each
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is nearly always deserted. it's as if i have the edge of the world completely to myself. i wait a little while. the fishermen, and cast their lines into the surf. someone once told me that dishing is a great act of faith. toothfish one must be incredibly patient but one must also believe. he waits in the water and the wind casting and standing to leaving that eventually his persistence will pay off. he dreams of landing a fish. he rehearses ford in his head. he hopes, he waits. that sort of dreaming is familiar to me. that is how i came to america and immigrant before he even knew i could travel a citizen in my hopes before they wish could even be spoken. america is a land of immigrants. every family here has its own unique story of travel with
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hardship in many cases, of triumph and sadness. many of those stories are filled with tears. if you are marked with blood. my story has both. i have debated how much to say about the war in my role in it. i thought if not telling about these things but in the end i decided that people should know the real story. i think a lot of people will say that what happened was very savage. perhaps they will think i am a savage is well though in my mind i did what i had to do and i killed only two survived. some people including some of the bravest warriors america has produced the seals call me a hero. that's not a word that i use to describe myself. i'm only a man who did what i thought i needed to do when i felt i had to do it. i was a man doing a job. when i was happy to have the
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support of my family in his time and place it was difficult to do so. for a while at least the job i thought meant i was changing the country, my country for the better. people ask how many missions i went on and how many times they face death. i don't know. i went on at least hundreds and more likely thousands of operations with just the seals. sometimes two or three in a single night. american military units rotated in and out of the country every few months taking a rest back in the states for months and even years. for me there were no rotations. the rest were only very short. and in a war zone. ieds and straight let's were as much a danger as actual combat or direct action, often more so. but it all seemed like a normal life than. perhaps that's a measure of wars
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and sanity. if i have courage or fear for even savagery it's because i am human. these things are in all of us, war only brings them out. we are all capable of the worst possible crimes. we can all kill. we can all destroy. these are far easier to do than to build were to help someone live. i have found to my horror that it does not take much to be compromised. i didn't always think this way. maybe like most people, i hope most people think this way. i thought at one time the world is basically good. i believed and still believe that we can all live together in peace and by working together make our communities and the world but a better place. i feel i know that it's better to make and build than to tear down and destroy.
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i thought all people around me believe that. little by little i saw that wasn't true. i thought it. i tried to change it. eventually i saw my only course was to escape but before i was able to call a miracle my home i had to denounce america. before i could taste freedom i had to taste death itself. it was late summer of 2004. i have been working for a number of different american organizations civilian and military for more than a year. the liberation of iraq have been the aureus moments a triumph that nearly all of us mostly shared. i got my first job as a translator everyone on my street celebrated me. way way to go johnny dey said. what a wonderful thing. in barely a year all of that changed.
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things turned murderously bad. my job went from being a thing to be celebrated to a thing to be hidden. any association with americans was a death sentence. if navy s.e.a.l.s love to me helping them mujahideen terrorists hated me for the same thing. one morning on my way to the seal base of car pulled up a hind me a say of roche the traffic in western mosul. instinctively i knew what would happen. as i looked for an escape route the karcher close and that man in the passenger seat began firing. i was lucky. we both missed. i veered off the road and guns the engine and managed to hit the other car is a turned and jumped out with an ak-47 in my hands. how many rounds are fired, i have no idea. both men in the car died and because of the crash or because of my bullets i will never know. it makes no difference.
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people ran to us. as the crowd gathered i could feel the hatred. what is that they demand it. what are you doing? there's only one way to escape. those people they worked with the americans i said. they had to die. the crowd began to cheer. a few pelts of the car with rocks. suddenly the car was in flames and i quickly made my getaway. it was one of the worst days of my life, the day that i denounced america but it's also the day my escape to the united states began. [applause] so we are just preforming here so we will just take questions from people. we can talk about to some extent what's going on in iraq.
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we will not identify -- no active servicemen will be identified and we will try to keep some of the details --. >> i wonder if you are afraid now that they will come after you? >> just to repeat the question for the video are you afraid johnny now that people will come after you? >> maybe they can come after me but they can't come after my family. i have support from the people and -- i don't care anymore. >> was it difficult for you to come to the united states and make the transition? did you have to go through a bunch of hoops to be able to come here? >> a question about how difficult it was for you to come to the u.s. and its it's actually a great question.
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>> one of my big issues is i had to go and say four or five hours to get payment for my apartment. i had a big argument with my supervisor. i said i don't want you to be kind to me and give me money. i want to work. let me work as a guard. i deserve what i did. this was sad about this system. >> yeah but how you got out of that system and how you got out of iraq you warehoused by the seals and when you had been serving in iraq, how you got to the u.s.. >> one of my friends whose name
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is jack, we worked in 2007. good to see you brother. anyway in 2005 and six most of the team guys allowed me to join them. i wanted to do that. after my wife and my brother was killed and they put money on my head i was like do you know what? my family deserves a better chance in the seals did everything. i mean each one of them. >> if we go into that and a little more detail but we really have to praise and thank one seal in particular. the call him chief tack in the book who was a tremendous supporter of johnny and made it
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happen. there were a lot of people involved. lawyers and a lot of officers so there is a lot of credit to be spread around. chief tack is a master chief and if you know anything about seals he is one tough sob. when finally everything, he had all the paperwork and he got johnny here we finally heard that johnny was on a mission. he started crying and if you can imagine this toughest males seal guy crying. not only does he admit that he is proud of that but it just goes to show how much the seals respected you. >> you mentioned at the beginning he weren't allowed to carry a weapon. what was the defining moment when you were about to carry a weapon? >> just repeat the question you
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were not allowed to carry a weapon. at what point were you allowed? >> training the iraqi forces --. >> the americans have a long list of things, first of all that the seals are any american force can and can't do that as a sidebar to that it didn't allow interpreters not to carry weapons. at some point we are talking about seals but the seals specifically started chaining -- training iraqi forces and at that point even though he was working with seals he was working also with the iraqis and under their rules so he came under their rules and under their rules he was allowed to carry a weapon. i know it's convoluted. i'm not the person that came up with those rules.
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that's the rules and johnny followed them in the seals follow them. they didn't like them sometimes but they were orders and that's what they did. >> a moment ago you spoke about the difficulty of arranging your departure from iraq to come to america. i am a former middle east foreign-policy analysts. i know there were many cases of people in afghanistan and iraq who helped american forces, some of whom put their lives at risk in ways similar to you. i don't know the exact number of these people but there is a reasonable number of them and you have a lot of soldiers who are trying to work for these people who put their lives on the line. sometimes there were tremendous difficulties with the american
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bureaucracy to get these people out of afghanistan and to the safety of america and i'm wondering is there any type of national organization that took these individuals one by one by one by one as a larger group. there were a number of them and i don't know the exact number, people who really helped american forces and the help of united states to get them to safety. >> just to repeat or summarize and repeat the question. johnny was lucky and helped the seals to come to america -- helped by the seals to come to america but there are as it has been pointed out there are a lot of iraqis who helped americans. and in afghanistan and have had difficulty coming to america. that is actually one of the untold stories unfortunate untold stories.
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congress passed a law who came to america under that law saying hey we recognize that people put their lives on the line for america should now be helped to safety and freedom if that is what they want. unfortunately the implementation of that law has been far less than two proselytize a little bit here, it has not been what you had hoped. unfortunately very few translators specifically or interpreters have come to america and the audience member was pointing out and asking if there is an organization that is helping people that are stuck in afghanistan and iraq? i don't know of one but i do know there are translators stuck there. i think i'm not really sure what
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should be done. i know that we have an obligation to help the people that helped us. i think willfully we learned our lesson. i think they had a similar situation there. they did pass a law but it's been very difficult for these guys even in johnny's case. i know of two other cases. >> hold on, hold on. see this is a question for you actually. >> then johnny will take it. >> i'm not quite sure how to ask this in a nonleading way that as the author of a book that is so intimate to our subject how do
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you not get your own politics, thinking, politics into it? >> you know that's a really good question. the question is since you are the co-author of this book and other books obviously how do you keep yourself from getting the book? i think you are trying to train yourself. my job is not to give my opinions or my voice. my job is to give johnny his voice according to the story. when i did american sniper which is about a seal sniper from texas, in some ways, in some ways i was a little bit easier because chris had a very texan boys and he talked a lot and he talks a lot different than i do.
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as you can tell i can't do a texan accent. for chris it was spending a lot of time with his family. they spent a lot of time with us and just listening and trying to come to one thought in what he wanted to say. whether i agreed with it or not, i agreed with a lot but not necessarily everything. he's a dallas cowboys fan i mean give me a break. new york wax and baseball, forget about it. when it came to johnny, we had a couple of barriers to overcome. one was the language because as you can see johnny's english he doesn't understand half the italian stuff and the things that i will throw at him and the jokes which is probably to his credit. but the other thing was trying
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to replicate his language from that section would have been impossible. what we try to do or i tried to do was come up with a language that would be mimicked to some extent. the arabic he used was very formal and try to get the cadences of that into the story and basically comes down to spending a lot of time with the guy and forming a bond. we spent so much time together and he pretty much hates me now. but you know the thing i will say about johnny is if you spend a lot of time with him you can't help but like him. he is johnny. hopefully we communicate that in the book. actually i do talk about that. there's a whole essay in the back of the book about that.
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i'm sorry, i've got to go with sharon. >> john he tell us how he got the codename johnny walker? >> how did you get the codename johnny walker? >> i'm sorry? >> how did you get the codename johnny walker? >> johnny walker at the codename. >> forget about the codename. and not back. >> actually there's more to the story than that as usual. the other thing i should say is you get one from story from johnny and you have to ask 25 times the free get the details. you find the seals were with it and he's a very modest fellow. they originally called you walker i think and i think somebody saw you and said no he's not walker, he's johnny walker. of course johnny didn't understand at that point, didn't
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really understand the joke and then you got it. >> i have it now. >> you got it now? >> i have it now. >> we have other questions? >> i realize a lot of your missions johnny are still classified but can you explain what the mix was? was it interrogation and partly community relations? >> well kind of missions did you go on? >> i did all the missions. i will do everything to make the mission successful to help in the questioning. >> almost all of the missions with the seals, he worked with a number of government agencies and he worked also with the mps
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and also we talk about in the book some other army services. the rangers, the special forces but the bulk of the missions with the seals were where you would essentially go to make an arrest and use civilian language you were going to search out a certain individual who may or may not have in guilty and often but americans being americans ugoda apprehend people. i would say that was most of the seal missions. you are doing a mission where you were handing out soccer balls. >> you sometimes with a sniper mission my build was to -- my job was to build a bridge. the iraqi family was in the
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house so i tried to make it respectful and kind. soon we have the target and a change might close and gathered money and went to the market to buy food for the family. we built a relationship with the family. >> there is one misconception. when we hear sniper missions we think the seals are going out to shoot someone. actually the sniper missions in iraq for the most part in the missions that johnny was on for missions where the americans were protecting things like the election so that to make sure that there was not going to be any violence on the street the seals would say go into a house the night before the election or two nights before the election. then they would set up outposts and they would watch the street
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to make sure there were no bad guys. of course to do that you had to take over the house. unfortunately they couldn't advertise in the news. hey i'd like to take over your house sometime. johnny's job in those instances was to ensure the people that hey we are here and we are here for this mission. we are here to talk to the iraqis. we will take care of your needs and we know it's a pain in the knack. the seals and johnny would go beyond that. we talk about this in the book. they would go to dinner and they would go shopping. i know snipers we are thinking of the movies.
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>> what are you doing today? >> i work with the seals. we teach the seals and we get involved with it. they make the job easy and they send the message. also we have -- they have one guy that speaks afghani or arabic. >> the seals have really stepped up and supported johnny. not only did they get them out of iraq but they helped him and his wife get jobs and is johnny
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says. i think it's very important for our troops whether it's seals or wherever they are when they are in an urban situation or they present themselves in a certain way so they understand simple customs having tea with someone can mean a lot. it doesn't always work right but they understand the theory and it's very helpful. do we have other questions? >> what the 2009, due to ever consider going back? >> the question is johnny have you ever considered going back to iraq lacks. >> no, this is my country for good. my country and my kids country. [applause] >> johnny loves america.
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i can call johnny 25 times a day and it's like johnny, how are you doing? but the truth is that johnny were to go to iraq no matter who -- or any other country. thing with johnny is he didn't go on missions that were just against al qaeda or shia. they went on missions against everybody. he doesn't just have one enemy. he has enemies all over the place. and friends as well. do we have other questions? i'm sorry. we want to thank everybody for coming. johnny's going to buy everybody a drink. just kidding about that.
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>> you my fake name. >> i guess we should explain. johnny doesn't use the name he was given at birth because he still has relatives in different places. not necessarily iraq but other places where potentially they could be endangered and using his name would hurt them. >> i love johnny walker. >> and he loves it. so thank you everybody. [applause] [applause]
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>> in richard miniter's book "eyes on the target" he writes about the history of the navy s.e.a.l.s going back to the vietnam war. we spoke with him for about 15 minutes. >> joining us on booktv is author richard miniter. what to write about? >> guest: i write about things that interest me and i hope they interest other people. this book "eyes on the target" is a little bit different. it's about the culture of the navy s.e.a.l.s and what makes
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them different and unique people. the united states navy has spent only as of dollars trying to discover how a navy s.e.a.l. is made. what makes some people succeed and go through basic training and what makes 70% of people fail. they look for demographics. they look for ethnicity and family background. they look to religion and they found none of that mattered. some of the most successful navy s.e.a.l.s grew up in wealthy suburban homes and real standout navy s.e.a.l.s grew up on food stamps and public housing housing. some were white and some more distinguished like jj johnson. some were hispanic and someone were eurasian. many were foreign-born and i have a story of a man imprisoned in communist poland who grew up in that struggle. they come from all walks of life all economic backgrounds and all faiths. they can't find the comments of nominator except for one thing. they never

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