we have a rational tendencies' if we build the system into account we will be better off and relax more failures. >> host: we have been talking with professor dan ariely. his most recent book "the (honest) truth about dishonesty" how we lie to everyone - especilly ourselves." >> guest: my pleasure

>> host: joining us now is is professor bonilla-silva what duty chad duke university? ensure the chair the sociology department in your most recent book "racism without racists" for racial -- what does that mean? >> what i try to redress in the book is the idea it goes beyond the original use of those people that we need to understand and one way or another with the new dominant prejudice out there

called the blind prejudice with new ideas tear defend their contemporary vision. >> host: can you give an example? >> guest: people go crazy to say things they broadly believe like of buffer that allows it peaked as that becomes an excuse speaker is you have to go back to the disclaimer. i also articulates it is called an abstract liberalism. if i want to oppose what we

have enacted i don't and if i send for equal opportunity because everybody is diverse. that statement looking for the traditional things like the edward but i contend it is abstract because of a sibling we already have reached parity with opportunities we still have the disadvantage is the labor market, the housing market. the person may not look racial but the statement told million dollars is not doing anything. >> host: what than somebody is simply opposed to affirmative action but not because it is a racial issue?

>> it has nothing to do with race but i don't believe it they should intervene as racial matters. it shows people seem to be opposing affirmative action is the explanation so if you say i oppose all government is not that i examined this in my book but i document those who oppose that to say but you cannot have it both ways. with there with more integration but if you only oppose a non-racial a gender ? than we have been issued. >> host: with people disagree with president

obama is there a racial? >> the last chapter talks about the presidency which i looked at the contradictory way how to push for word the racial regime from the '70s is the new racism. so going back to your question is and a position on the left and on the right but it is racially based there is no evidence but barack obama for the right reasons but they clearly shows that is the case. >> host: when you say the teapartier they recessed on

dash racist? connect some parts definitely been the traditional face in this book not the 10 percent of white americans who subscribe to that will be more open those that have not done what needs to be done which is the only way to save the potential to race beyond that we have to go through race you cannot ignore it. with black families one 20th of the white the families because we know if the group of people most of

the time so what we need to do is examine why do we have it but we cannot say that we elected a black president because we're not there yet. >> host: what is a policy solution that you offer? >> i believe the movements are essential to alleviate equality. with the most significant differences to advocate those to go back to social

mobilization to put all of the aids and elections to a matter with the circumstances. we need people to be held there despite the problems we want to achieve race. >> host: professor bonilla-silva your out there protesting in the streets what are we protested what do we want to happen in a? higher taxes for whites? were education opportunities for african-americans and latinos? where are we headed? >> my job typically is not to provide the path of how to get to the promised land

but i have the stake to improve i offer my personal views either with the affirmative action with the police saying of discrimination let me explain. as the society focus is on discrimination when they in this happen we all get older did but with the extraordinary events or the markings of the world it happens every day. austenite and ignored or

that i don't have the money to purchase an item or eye of a suspect. so i have said told but now i am polite to than they asked may i help you? may help you? the help you? the first time that they asked me i say i am just looking. the second time i say yes than the third time care you give me some pointers? the response is something like i did not mean that the yes you did. will use the example many white members started talking.

so but in his own house suspected to rent -- it in the black person going in the professor says this is my house and then arrested in his own house. so to develop a plan of action so the killingly softly type i don't care the way you killed me. i am still dead. we need to develop a new form of discrimination. >> host: professor bonilla-silva what does the

term colorblind mean to you? >> we remember and the okay said he wished to live in a society they're judged on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. the people that site that to dare not doing much after he wrote that he also said talk about america to come back with insufficient funds talking about the jury much of the future there aren't nine culture for rations -- for rations the hope my kids and grandkids color does not matter but if i know the only way to get to that society which claims we

don't need to do anything even with economics we show a systematic inequality. it is anything but racism when you showed those raids we tell you it is not race. >> host: your first book was white supremacy there will be people in the audience listening saying they you are looking for a problem that does not exist. >> guest: i tell them what i tell my students. it is like child abuse would we say let's not talk about it because the more we have

the problem? the immediate you just talk about it the problem is there. we gave to have it in the open on the political side and then pushing for their bright just as the americans went with taxation without representation. but historically people have to push back so we have the civil-rights revolution.

but we are not there yet. >> host: where were you raised? >> board in in the u.s. park to of p.r. but off the island and we are americans automatically. >> host: since 1903. block us from being raised in p.r. to share of the sociology department. >> guest: a long way. born in western pennsylvania and my father jeffrey back to the island i went to

wisconsin one of the coldest place says live though world [laughter] and said the phenomenon called the wind chill factor. [laughter] i finish 1983 and then nine years ago i hear now i am a chair of the department but for those in the advance to be fair it can be a success story it has been a struggle to become the chair of a department if you were to

talk to both scholars we have a difference dick was so i am beyond race the chest through the university i don't walk around with a selling group that i have a nice balance of a dachshund. [laughter] -- kinase pennsylvania accident. where many of my colleagues are thinking we are beyond race and take tell me but what about for all of the? that we have few minorities, etc., etc., etc. >> host: professor bonilla-silva most recent book "racism without

racists" you are watching booktv on c-span2 from duke university.

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