mountain pike climbed. the man who actually climbed it first was a member of steve along's expedition which came in 1820 and his name was ed wynne james. some people started calling it james peak in the 1820s and 1830s and they coexist until the army topographical engineer sort of official gave it the name of pikes peak. i don't know if there was a point they started doing it but it came into usage in the late 1830'ss and 40s and james peak sellout. [inaudible] >> other than he passed through it in december, november 11th, feb. twenty-seventh of 1806-1807. he did manage to climb the peak. declined another mountain but didn't climb the peak and for trivia persons it is almost

certainly not although there's some debate about that. if you look at the mountain crests line. you see pike speak and the lower one. the third one to the south is a perfect triangle. thanks a bunch for coming out. hope you had a good time. >> pleasure to meet you. have you seen one of those maps of louisiana i got in here in your colorado fourth grade textbook? i am sorry? in eighth grade you get to that. okay. what is your name? good to meet you. thanks for coming. thanks for coming. >> never seen that little sliver. how did they negotiate?

because you did the topographical map? >> because the united states occupied it, swayed the alliances of the indians away from spain, and by 1819, in 1803 spain was weakening but it was still strong enough to contest the united states's definition but by 1819 the entire hemisphere of spanish holdings from argentine all the way to the present was in open rebellion, wars of independence had broken out in peru and mexico and spain was really weak. the spanish crown had been toppled by the french government in 1808 and spain pretty much had to accept the united states could dictate the terms at that point and two years later of course the -- mexico falls and becomes an independent nation. really the united states was strong and occupy that space and spain was weekend failed to do so. >> so when they sold this they

didn't have it drawn up? somebody on the contract? >> jefferson's diplomats in spain asked the french governor, the french secretary of foreign affairs, foreign ministry. what are the boundaries? and he allegedly said i don't know exactly but i suspect he made no bargain for yourself. and so spain and france had contested the boundaries of louisiana, going back to 1682. so france said we are selling you louisiana and the french understanding of that was much broader and jefferson adopted at. the spanish understanding was much narrower. and they adopted that. you guys have a good evening. >> you are on camera.

>> joining us now is margie ross -- marji ross, publisher of regnery. who owns regnery? >> we have a new owner. we are now owned by film communication. a very big and powerful media company mostly in radio. face indicate some of the biggest conservative talk show hosts including michael medved bed and dennis trader and mike gallagher and bill bennett and they also honed over a hundred radio stations across the country and that is one of the key drivers for book sales especially in the conservative market is to get on to talk radio so now we have this wonderful synergy, working with all of our family to try to get the message out about our books. >> has your job changed since

the new ownership? >> it has to become more busy and more exciting but luckily, the nice thing for regnery is it known any trade publishing operation at all so this is new to them and so they like what they saw and kept all of us on board to try to augment what they are doing, build a new powerful arm within the company. >> we want to ask about some of the spring titles coming out. but star with dave armstrong. >> the twilight of abundance. fascinating book. a book about natural resources, a book about energy but also a book about that haves and have nots. i don't mean the individuals within the country. i mean countries and even continents that are haves and have nots. a very interesting sort of book

about what happens as we are entering a period of scarcity. scarce resources. harsher climate, energy battles, what that means for various countries and various continents and his warning is that america really needs to rethink our whole energy policy, natural resource policy and even our food strategy as we enters this new period because while we are certainly the biggest of the first world countries, there's a risk we could become a third world country if we don't be careful with our resources and more strategic way. >> from your description it doesn't sound like what we would expect from a conservative author. >> it is a little bit off the beaten path for us but it is very conservative fundamental be

in that it advocates smaller government, less regulation and more private enterprise, more innovation and more free-market solutions to try as the best way to navigate the new reality. >> is about america now? >> it just came out and we are selling at starting on monday. >> is that the spring title? >> yes. this is brilliant. a fascinating book. an expert believe it or not assassinations and he has written quite a big deal about the jfk assassination. in covering that, in researching that he discovered there have been dozens of attempts on presidents most of which have gone unreported or uncovered or even hushed up not to frighten people because of the sinister

nature. we expect this to come out in april when a lot of people talk about the lincoln assassination. it is really a fascinating look at threats and assassination attempt on presidents in the 20th century most of which you have never heard of and how they were averted and how the secret service and other agencies keep the president safe. >> the people have spoken. >> the people have spoken and they are wrong. this is again a very interesting, irreverent and provocative book about the challenges of a pure democracy. what david argues is we are not a pure democracy, we never were a democracy. we are a democratic republic and in fact as people who don't

understand that or like the idea of a republic go further and further down up your democracy road all kinds of the unintended consequences occur. all you have to do is look at some of the countries in the middle east where we sort of exported a pure democracy or the idea of pure democracy where you don't always elect the people you want or even the people who have the best interests of the populace at heart. his argument is we have to return to the constitution. we have to return to democratic republic which puts more responsibility on individuals. and to be involved in their communities. that is what the founding fathers had in mind. >> host: and the political

action conference, a lot of potential gop presidents, nominees are here speaking. coming out with books as well. >> most of the time they don't. we have lots of ceres about why college decisions can be difficult to sell. most of the general population and probably be included think politicians have an agenda when they get in front of a microphone. it is not necessarily all that interesting to read about in a book and honestly i can turn on tv, c-span any day of the week end hear what all politicians have to say for free. i don't need to buy a book about it. and you have that clear message,

engaging offer. >> one of the books you up publishing, potential presidential candidate. >> a presidential contender last time around, and the lot of people feel the same way, that he had a message, talking to a constituency that was in many ways overlooked by the mainstream politicians by both parties, and he became the spokesperson, hard-working fabric of the community. somebody who feels and probably stayed home in the 25 election.

high school basketball coach and the boy scout troop leader, and the mom who organizes the charity auction, fabric of the communities but they are not the stars. and somebody selling it to folks in seattle. the folks in our communities, and the backbone of the country. and they have forgotten about that. they don't represent them or talk to them or engage with them and yet their values are very conservative, fundamentally conservative and an opportunity for the gop. that is what the book is about.

>> is it legal trouble today conflicted with the book publishing? >> funny you say is that. he is going to try land i can comment on the legal issue but it certainly seems to me it is a case of targeting and harassment of someone who was very publicly against this administration and i think he will possibly be talking about that a little bit in the book when it comes up. the first of june and the book is called america. what would we have done without her? the point is america stood for liberty and freedom and opportunity as a sort of signing

for centuries. and no longer able to stand for what it always stood for for people around world zoo wants to come here and have an opportunity and the danger is according to nash we are losing sight of those fundamental values that made us a place everyone wanted to come to including the next one. >> a quick preview with marie breaux -- marji ross. you are watching the tv on c-span2. >> booktv is on facebook and twitter. like and follow us for book industry news. behind-the-scenes looks to interact with others for television programming. earlier this week, the new york times interview with former supreme court justice john paul stevens on his recently published book six amendments which outlines justice stevens's thoughts on how the constitution

should be amended. we tweeted in the associated press elizabeth warren's book a fighting chance. it was released on tuesday. the book recounts the senator's life and professional career, childhood in oklahoma to her years as a harvard law professor at her oyster -- current tenure in the u.s. senate. on our face book page we posted a behind-the-scenes photo from our interview program after words. pictured is the host talking with jeremy rifkin, author of the zero marginal society prior to the start of their interview. look for the program to air soon on booktv. follow us on twitter at booktv. like us on facebook, facebook.com/booktv to get more news about the world of publishing and what is happening on booktv. >> marie breaux talks about the history of authors write and argues copyright law will need to be revisited in the future. this event was part of the tennessee williams new orleans