budget requests along with a proposal for user fee increases to fund this effort. we were less personal bond is not the answer to improving the arrivals process. cpp has been a closely self-critical to ensure operations are as efficient and secure as possible. we are incorporating technological enhancements developing self-service kiosks and reducing paper forms for travelers. with confidence of programs that segment processing modes like an easy pass line at a tollbooth. cpp's trusted traveler program a global entry provides expedited processing for preapproved participants that the use of kiosks. there's over 2.5 million travelers with global entry benefits and today the global entry kiosks have been used over 9.3 billion times. in the busiest travel day of the week travelers using these kiosk can account for 10% of all international air are rivals. we also work closely with airport authorities and airlines

to deploy automated passport control kiosks known as abc. these are like the exact change booths. the administrator portion of the arrivals process thereby reducing the overall interaction time with the cbp officer and allows the cbp officer to focus on the security aspects of that inspection process. in the past year 16 airports are launched apcs and several more planned to join by the end of year. all of these airports that have launched these kiosk we have seen average wait times decrease by 30 to 35% after the installation of kiosks. we have also automate the for 494 arriving at seaports of entry. we have the arrival information from electronic record taking into processes easier and faster for travelers in addition to using -- reducing hc cause. we are are looking for paper production formed to eliminate

the process. we envision several ways to use the internet mobile device kiosk and seeing the options available like when checking in for flight. effective secures should be a travel facilitation of a barrier. security measures protect travelers from the damaging effects effects of terrorists are security incidents. identifying and separating a low-risk traveler from those who may require additional scrutiny is a key element to the cbp's efforts to facilitate secure travel. we also dedicated to providing quality customer service to travelers from training programs of officer stood advanced audio video communications with providing travelers with their instructions in many languages on cbp's -- in conjunction with the travel industry we have developed a traveler satisfaction survey benchmark passenger satisfaction and cbp professionalism. last year's survey findings found 80% of the traverse a great entry process made them feel welcome in u.s. and over

90% of travelers agreed the cbp officials are professional helpful efficient and easy to understand. chairman schatz and wiki members subten members of subcommittee thank you for the opportunity to testify today and i'm happy to answer your questions. >> think it very much. we'll start with ranking member scott. >> thank you mr. scott and the rest of the panel for investing your time to help us with a clear path forward on our tourism and our economy. ambassador bond a quick question for you. our fyprovisions included a requirement from the state department to pilot esa videoconferencing technology. the secure technology would allow the state to conduct visa interviews remotely and provide a convenient solution for foreign travelers with limited access to the u.s. consulate. can you please give us an update on the status of this product and how effective you think it's been so far? >> thank you senator.

the bureau of consular affairs is content to look into whether video could be incorporated into visa processing. we understand the allure and the attraction of the video interviewing idea. we have serious concerns about the security, efficiency and integrity of videoconferencing, video interviewing. we believe that expanding the pool of low-risk travelers who do not require an interview at all will realize far greater efficiencies than would video interviewing. we are focusing our efforts on utilizing technology and advanced fraud detection techniques to help us expand the pool of applicants for home interviews can be waived. that would allow us to focus resources on higher risk visa applicants, people we know less about 12 better facilitating travel for the others. expansion of interview with

brenda visa waiver program are to efficient effective methods for facilitating numbers of legitimate travelers. the video interview process can work when you are dealing with a known group but when you are trying to interview several thousand people who are just coming in one after the other sitting in front of the camera, we think there are really serious security and efficiency questions about that approach in that process. >> so you perhaps focus on identifying those low-risk travelers as opposed to the use of that technology. >> yes sir. >> thank you. assistant secretary stroud how is dhs leveraging private sector expertise with six expertise with the six assignments under the program to support some of

the department's tourism initiatives. can you give me a better idea of exactly what problems these roles will be focusing on and clear within the department they are located. will they be in a field or at headquarters? >> thank you sir. let me explain the loan executive program is a program that allows us and dhs to take advantage of private sector had essentially no cost. these folks continue to get paid by private sector employers. we currently have in the travel and tourism side seven assignments actually and they largely came about after a site visit to miami national airport where it would be solvent quickly with a couple of people from some of the larger theme park areas. they are expertise on queuing people was invaluable. we worked with cbp and tsa to jointly develop descriptions to

create a task force team that could go-round to our gateway gateway airports and look at each airport because as administrator pistole he testified once you have seen 11 airport has seen one airports of this team has to literally go to these airports in love. to address your question with respect to to her over the located bearer tool reports essentially to tsa and cbp and the deputy secretary who under the law operates as a chief operating director for the department. they will be located for six month periods. a maximum of six month period and they will be used sporadically during that time. >> thank you. they were a quick question for mr. wegner. on the cbp's defense operations with our strong allies in canada and ireland and the caribbean this really has facilitated low-risk travel opportunities in

the canadian preclearance especially the toronto location has done a lot of good for our economy in south carolina. i would love to get your perspective on the effectiveness of these programs from a facilitation perspective and they have. >> we are looking to expand the program with a lot of different gateway airports overseas but it does help with facilitation benefits and certainly the enforcement security benefits being able to search someone or inspect one and approve someone for travel to the united states while overseas before they board the aircraft. it's really essential for the facilitated and security mission that we do. >> thank you. thank you mr. chairman. >> before you get into my questions i want to thank ambassador bond in her testimony for flagging the issues and the opportunities to expanding the interview waiver program and commit to you that i know for myself many members of the committee are anxious to facilitate in any way possible

your work on the mistreated side and affair legislative changes that need to be made we are pleased to work with you on that. mr. wegner as you probably know the cbp is working on resuming operations at the kona airport resuming operations to provide a gateway to increase economic activity there. i know there are facilities issues and their capacity issues but from our standpoint we are not landing commercial flights at the kona airport for lack of resources at the state and local -- state and federal level. do i have your commitment to solve that problem? >> the facility requirements and to operate and having the commercial airlines comment to bring the traffic to us. >> i can ensure you the commercial airlines will come if we can square away our end of the bargain. thank you very much. ambassador bond interview waiver program has helped to

reduce visa wait time in the state department would like to pursue possible legislative authority to expand that program. could you put into perspective the benefits of this waiver authority? >> yes, thank you senator. the benefit of the waiver authority is that it allows us to carefully examine the people who are applying for visa applications and separate out the people about whom we already have quite a lot of information. an example would be someone from a visa waiver country who can already travel to give states without getting a tourist visa ends applying for student visa. we have information about the travel pattern. we have all of the screening that is done for 100% of travelers. we have the information provided in the applicants application.

we really don't need necessarily to interview that person and because each application will be examined by a consular officer if consular officer if there is something in it and it will ju just -- individual application we can invite that person to come in for an interview. their other examples of people we would be able to remove from the queue of people waiting for appointments and move them along and focus their attention on the other folks about whom we know less. >> thank you very much. mr. wegner were we with the development of metrics and are we had a point anytime soon where we are going to have a maximum wait time target as an official policy of the cbp? >> we measure the wait times in a major airports today. that information is posted on our web site. we take two pieces information we have good data on it that's the time of the aircraft from the time we read the person's passport in the primary inspection area and subtract out

the average talk time to get from the plane to our area. that date is calculated and tabulated every day. it's posted on the web site and is broken down into different increments of how long people actually wait. just yesterday nationally 75% of people cleared cbp in 30 minutes or less. so we break it down into boxes of information for the public. >> it seems to me that is not just a question of aggregating the data but you are trying to eliminate the outliers where you create such a bad experience where people won't combat combat. in other words of people are you moving through in two minutes and not hub airports that they are consistent problems this person on the international side you are removing people from the likely repeat traveler pool even if your aggregate data looks good. >> wreck.

even at the gateway airports we are seeing for instance miami yesterday are maximum wait time was 79 minutes. the average was 20 minutes throughout the day but it's really those peak arrival times that of 15 flights land within an hour and a couple thousand people comment is that once we are working with airport authorities in airlines to find better ways to segregate that traffic into the risk analysis. we have partied on our pre-arrival targeting and setting up these passengers and now we have to match them with that information. that is what the kiosks come in and automatic passport control. we can remove those people completely. programs like one-stop with no check bags and trying to work with abbott also working with local authorities on measuring the different points in the process. >> where are we defending away time goal? >> we have met with the national wait time gold. we are looking more at whether the right measurements to

measure the increase in travel, the economic benefits of that bring so if travel increases and wait times -- that supports the goal so we are looking more at what's the right metrics, what are the right things to measure in that process rather than setting an across-the-board goal which a lot of those factors are outside of our control. the planes might land all at once and these people will come at us. we don't have control over that and i don't want to get down the road of us regulating because arrival times just dagger those articles are telling planes were they have to park at the airports of people come at us in some type of structured environment. it's a deeper discussion we do have about what it actually means to implement a goal like that. >> my final question for ambassador bond, where we are we with negotiations between the united states and china on reciprocal visa validity? >> as you may know senator currently the visa reciprocity

for chinese for tourism and business thesis students and so forth is one year. we are talking to the chinese government about extending those visa validity for several categories in order to allow people to make long-term plans. if you are somebody less you are some of the u.s. of feasibility travel for several years you are going to think ahead and start planning trips this year and next year in the hereafter. so we are in consultation with the chinese government and they are interested in finding a way. >> thank you very much. senator blunt. >> thank you chairman. in your testimony talked about the importance of reauthorizing what is now called brand usa. i appreciate that. senator klobuchar and i have filed legislation to do exactly that. at the same time we have included what i think are some important metric reporting and

some accountability standards and i want to ask about those two things. one is the metrics you give us they were pretty impressive. the increase in numbers, the increase in money spent and what i'm wondering is what can you do as you establish these reporting standards to measure the impact of marketing efforts, the marketing efforts themselves? >> we think of brand usa is a global destination to the united states and therefore the classic metrics to

>> we don't have the data to determine what portion they are responsible for. they are at a micro level marketing program after marketing program for the marketing partners talk about the results that brand usa creates and there is a lot of

company by company destination marketing organization by destination marketing organization. responses and in addition brand usa had a study commissioned by the office of economics which also articulated the results that brand usa has created. the indication is there is value christian from brand usa and its activities. >> then the first year or so of implementing bisnow program largely funded by visa waiver fees paid by people visiting the country and i might get back to that is a topic later but it's largely the funding is not getting taxpayer funding from visa waiver fees but still has to be matched by a private sector matching funds. one of the -- in the first year we concerned of real value of any in-kind match and i wonder

what the department has done and can do to fully value the in-kind match? >> thank you senator for the question. we have spent a lot of time working with brand usa and also third-party companies to help determine what is the most appropriate and effective way to determine the in-kind value. these are contributing in different media. billboards, space on a web site. we have built now a set of procedures trying to incorporate best practices from around the government to value the in-kind. where it is a unique or more

difficult to value in-kind contribution we rely heavily on third-party valuations. i think both brand usa and we are comfortable that the procedures in place now are efficiently and effectively measuring the in-kind. >> and are there other monitoring metrics that you all have put in place to monitor the way money is being spent by the brand usa board and the people they hire to run the program? >> again as i said the metrics that we are watching are the metrics of the effectiveness of the campaign, of intent to travel and results program by program and what they are a wise's are for those vendors at dashboard that we have built and we are working with them. >> chairman if we have time for another round of questions i may have to mourn if not i will have questions for the record. >> senator.

>> mr. wegner senator rubio and i are going to tagteam on the issue of miami and orlando. you have mentioned miami several times. it was curious to me when you specifically and mention in miami a five hour period where some 12,000 people are arriving all at once. aside from the issue of the number of customs border patrol officers do you consider on a temporary basis shifting cbp officers from other locations for that high concentration of need? >> yes, absolutely and that is what our local managers want to do from other work areas within their environment to make sure

we have enough booths open every single day. we have been -- miami is of significant importance to us especially with the world cup travel and the increase american airlines has projected for the next couple of weeks so we are looking at the wait times every day and getting a report every single day of how we are doing and how we are monitoring and adjusting to the traffic. we were just down there on monday walking through the facility and the operations with american airlines and some of the other local stakeholders but it's very important to us. we want to make sure we are providing that level of service. >> so where would you get them? would you get them from a seaport on a temporary basis? would you get them from fort lauderdale? where would you get them? >> we could use them from other areas within the airports safer cargo processing or other types of work environments that we can afford to take a few hours break from activity and address that peak arrival.

taking from other airports is more challenging because the impact of brings on a place like fort hood that also has wait time concerns themselves. >> so are you doing this now? >> we are doing it within the airport itself. >> nod from the port of miami. >> know we have not looked at that but that's an option available to us as we look at the summer peak arrival times. >> i will leave the other questions on miami to senator rubio but just to remind you that there is a period about two years ago in orlando where they had to keep the passengers on an international flight from deplaning for about an hour and a half. because of the lack of officers. you all responded but then the sequester hit and so i want you

to be mindful of that as you are looking at here allocation. >> absolutely. >> i am curious. i want to come at this from another standpoint for all of you. we are facing a situation where it looks like we are going to have a lot of area of iraq and syria that at least for the short-run is going to be controlled by an extremely radical terrorist group. and presumably there are americans who have gone to syria for training. a floridian was the one that blew himself up recently but also a lot of europeans. okay if they have got a european

passport, what are the extra precautions that you take, other than overall terrorists search in a visa waiver country which very well may be one of these home grown terrorist to catch them. mr. stroud? >> i would say primarily our national targeting center was cbp we began to look at the travel patterns of folks and we get that information well before they actually get on the plane. in addition to that as you have taken a visit to miami international you will see customs and border protection executes all of their rigor protocol with respect to ambassadors regardless of their visa visa waiver or global entry people still receive and i will defer to my colleague on the rest.

>> is also working with foreign governments and allies to identify these people who are seceded with them and what we can decide from their intentions. going through that data and drawing links to pieces of information we know would give us national security concerns and who can be associated but also looking at travel patterns based on prior activities or intelligence reports on what we think would present national security concerns. that's a matter of reaching back through that travel continuum. what is the right point in that process to intercept this person, talk to them and have them inspected and searched before they get on board that plane. we have officer stationed overseas at 11 locations in major airports. cbp officers not so much pre-currents but immigration proprietary program. they get a list every day of travelers that give us concerned

and they meet them at boarding gates and talk to them and make a recommendation to the airline whether or not the airline should fly this person based on national security concerns are bringing them to the host authorities to have someone fully search and check before we allow them onto the aircraft. preclearance is uniform cbp officers in places like abu dhabi they give us concerned with the types of connecting flights of travelers to go through there and the amount of national security activity that keeps us up at night. having officers on the ground with full authority to be able to search people and make sure they are safe before we put them on board that aircraft. >> senator heller. >> mr. chairman think you enter the ranking member thank you for holding this hearing. and for her witnesses being here today, thanks for taking the time time. think we have a hearing on the subject every month and if i was chairman it would be every week.

anyway i'm not complaining is what i'm trying to say because you can tell we are well represented from tourist states from hawaii to florida nevada south carolina missouri tourism plays a huge part. you can imagine the state of nevada where for 20 consecutive years we have been the number one meeting and convention destination north america. this ear las vegas receives over 40 million visitors and tourism supports one into local jobs. what we are doing here today and what we are talking about is important and i want to thank the chairman and ranking member for holding this particular hearing. today i'm interested in learning what washington d.c. can do to continue the hard work on your behalf and on the states that have in the tourism industry and that is why i'm pleased you are here today. in particular inches in the ways we can open or international markets, markets like brazil

while continuing to work to reduce wait times at her nation's busiest airports and for those seeking to visit this country. this was brought and continues to be today. according to the las vegas convention and visitor authorities international visitors stay longer and they spend more money during their stays. with that in mind i would like to ask a couple of questions. i will start with you mr. stroud. specifically on the may 2012 strategy to expand travel to the united states with the goal of attracting 100 million international visitors annually by 2021. how were we doing? can you quantify that? >> i think we are making some big strides towards it and i think we are adept where we are supposed to be. one of the things i would obviously say that the secretary has testified to is the fact that expanding number we believe

expanding in facilitating the travel are worth experience will increase that number so preclearance locations but also expanding global entry. if you look at the department of commerce numbers on arrivals for 2013, 3.73 million from japan came to the united states. if you took 1% of that and roll that into global entry and use the number of 300 passes on a 777 which is the most common airframe flown it would take 124 airplanes off a cbp lines and puts them into a global entry program which we could even use overseas if we had a preclearance locations. we have global entry located overseas. we are working towards that together. the secretary is driven towards that goal and i think we are in the process of doing that. i would differ to my colleague from cbp to answer some of that as well. >> if you would please. >> looking up at different arrival experience.

it's getting rid of forms for them to fill out. it's motivating self-service kiosk that not only gives them a better strength but helps us be more efficient and more secure in what we do. saying things like global entry that frequent low-risk travelers keeping a program like that. we are getting 60 to 70,000 applications a month for that program. it's been steady like that for the last year-to-year and a ha half, tremendous uptick in that program. usage can vary from five to 10% depending on the day the week but it tends to trend with business travel. later in the week we see those percentages increase up to 10% of total arrivals. automated passport control for the infrequent traveler for the family travels on the casual vacationers. they can use some sort of automated process that but still see the officer foreshortened process without officer that makes us more efficient because it increases our capacity.

what is the traveler experience after going to back? >> what may interest you. you have the authority to do all that you are talking about or do you need more from us in order for you to streamline the process likes. >> authority wisely have the authority to do that and with good relationships with the stakeholders that help design and build and deploy these types of activities and support us in that. >> i'm running out of time. what will it take to open in countries like brazil? what are the challenges we are facing? >> the visa waiver kerned visa waiver statute. currently right now in brazil it would not qualify under the current visa waiver statute. and of course expanding global entry to other countries like japan that we don't currently have would be helpful. >> senator if i may just add to that the point that we did see a

significant uptick in travel from brazil when the piece of publicity went from five years to 10, when people were starting to get a visa that allowed them to travel in and out over a ten-year. math they started traveling more. so that kind of step stuff can assist in increasing the number of travelers. >> thank you. >> senator rubio. >> thank you. mr. wegner i want to focus on miami because it's a real mess and i fly through that airport overtime. it's the second busiest port of entry for visitors to united states and the only airport in the top five that left us with that but -- double-digit growth. it is good news for the goal outlining the purpose of this hearing. here is the mass. from january to march this year the average wait time has been 59 minutes but the problem with that is that sometimes the way time is as long as 190 minutes. it's been document the longest

wait time which is the longest wait time in the u.s.. i know we will brag about the fact that the wait times are down 20% which is good but the problem with that and you touched upon earlier when you talk about the numbers yesterday as the average is basically the average of the entire flights coming in so you have the peak time of flight and then you have the downtime of flights. .. another trip adviser comment,

warning talk continuing passengers clearing customs and immigration through miami. it is a nightmare. if you can avoid this and try to do so. this is complicated and problematic. then i look at some of the models being used to make some decisions year. 2,000 new officers of the approved. i know it will take about 18 months to two years to get most of them of line which is in and of itself a very long way given the damage that is already happening. the model does not make a lot of sense to me. for example, new work, which is not even on the chart of major delays cut 100 new agents. miami got 60. so the second busiest international airport in america got 3 percent of the new agents. can you just explain to me, first of all, what was the model that led to that determination? >> correct. the workload staffing model takes all of the activities acp officer does at the port of entry, the average time to do each one of those activities and multiplies by how many times per day is done to come up with the

amount of hours needed to run the port of entry, divide by the available work hours and comes up with the staffing number of what we think is the right number run that port of entry. it is not optimal staffing. it is the minimum needed to required to address that workload. this factor is then that you can lay on top of that filters such as all that work a rise of one wanted time. the capacity of the entire system. other factors to buy we look at that, remote ports or splitting terminals or splitting the work of. you know, there are several factors. in the case of miami we provided , we allocated between 80 to 100 officers the previous year to miami airport in anticipation of the north terminal company. the largest number.

a large portion of cp officers have accommodated that growth. we were grateful for the 2000 that congress gave us, but it was about 60 percent of what we needed. >> elected to the miami airport, the reason you're only getting 60's because you get 80 the year before. >> the workload steffen will try to balance out the need that we tried to spread that out evenly. make places on a similar status with the major gateway airports. the offices would have to come from somewhere. take them from lax, jfk, las vegas, el paso, a detroit, michigan. we tried to use the were close staffing model to balance that out to keep us on record to see how far from the gaps. >> i don't to run out of time.

the second question, and interested to see what the response will be, with the second question has to do with the staff and models, how you allocate resources. you talked earlier about how close coordination with the airport and airline is on when the surge up the number of agents verses when not to. miami airport has told us that you will much share this model. is this something you do not share with airlines and airports according to then they don't know what the staffing model is. >> newell said that with them. think we need twice a day with the airlines in the airport operators to plan of the day's events. we look at the manifest we receive an advance, do some calculations that it takes about one minute to process a u.s. citizen, to a map minutes for a non citizen. we model of what the projected wait times are going to be and what the projected primary booth count should be and then lay our staffing over that to see how many booze we can afford to that

how much overtime will use. >> you do share the staffing models? >> we share the information. have you came up with it. how they aware of what used to determine how much personnel -- >> they should be, if not we will share that information with them. the workload staffing. about 170 different activities that we counted to come up with the workload for the ports of entry. the average processing time to reach one of those activities. you know go there is nothing secretive or controversial are classified by that kind of information. >> is completely contrary to what the airport has told me. >> absolutely. >> one more question, but all wait if there will be a second valve. >> we have a vote of 11 to five. >> senator. >> one more question for which

cox. >> you have these programs now. they put in like 75 new kiosks. here is problem. they're wait times, those kiosks as they're currently configured only work for u.s. citizens that are returning. as they are currently configured the award for the international passenger. what they need is a software upgrade of the fiasco that their work for international travelers can you work with us or pledge with us that we will get the software in there so that these kiosks that will work. >> they work today for u.s. citizens, permanent reticence, and visa waiver travelers. what we have to add is that the 1b2 visa holders.

>> we just ups deployed the lawful permit residents. miami does about 35 percent of their total arrivals to those kiosks. 100 percent agree we need to expand it. >> we have not sketched out what the requirements or timeline of that would be, but that is where we're going to focus in the coming weeks. a better protection of the timeline should be. >> the sooner the better. they have a mess on their hands. worry about permanent damage being done. there are orlando issues, we are out of time. we will send you a letter. >> thank you for having this hearing. has been useful. so many exciting things with tourism and challenges be read it is good to be here with my friend heading up the brand u.s.a. reauthorization and two senators from florida and hawaii . more coastline. this is a true story.

florida, california, hawaii combined. i know you might not have thought that before. >> not as many beaches. >> a lot of trees tugging those lakes, but we are proud of the tourism had a really happy with the increases and the good work many of you are doing. i thought senator bob did a good job of focusing some of the changes that we made had positive things, not only brand u.s.a., but the bill we have an accountability measures. i thought i would ask you about global entry to a first of all. in addition to increased officer staffing, the continued expansion of global entry as another tool to maximize customer border protections, limited resources go in the tight budget. well the program continues to grow with additional and roulette of u.s. citizens

expanding that reciprocal agreements would significantly increase staffing efficiency. we have these agreements with mexico, canada, the netherlands, a career. you talked about the possibilities of expanding to other countries. you're looking at your papers there and how this is interacting with nexis, canada. >> the nexus card. you qualify for global entry you could use the kiosks to come home but not get into canada unless you enroll in the program. they are all intertwined. the title at the top is different. >> it is just really the capacity and the reach of where we have the program. global entry, we are at 52 locations coastal seeing 50 said

60,000 applications a month. nexuses about 205 at thousand. that has been fairly consistent for the last couple of years. collectively we're doing over 100,000 applications a month. >> the other countries to we have agreements. you mentioned a couple of them. south korea, mexico, canada, the netherlands. we have pilots limited by numbers with the u.k., in germany. we are working with those countries, and panama, to increase the number of background checks that those governments can do. their limited by how much capacity those governments can take on that do background checks. we would like to open up without restriction. we are fairly close with japan, but all of our major travel sources, countries who would

like to sign up and join this program. >> you know if we get these torre said they spend an average of $4,500 when they come into our country. that is a good thing. >> absolutely. >> moving out to something else with canada. the senator and i were just in canada. one of the things that is important is the border crossings. the sea -- cbp has reached some private public partnerships for the appropriation legislation for 2013 and 2014. from my understanding, it allows private money to the levers of public money to improve its border crossing. and what i also understand is right now projects have been piloted on the mexican border. i was up in international falls, one of the big news ports of entry. we would like to have some commitment that northern border sites for partnerships as soon as possible.

>> so, we have the reimbursable services availability, and then we also have the definition of real property and services. so we have a handful of locations that are currently using the reimbursement for services. we have solicited for a next round of applications, which we have received and are going through selecting the final. >> northern border locations in the group a war can you say? >> i can say, but i don't remember off hand. we received a handful from the land borders. we will have to look to see who is on the list. we should be making those announcements. no restriction on the land border locations. there are of some of the international airports. still working with gsa on procedures for the the nation of real property. a little trickier. still working on that. >> we really need to get -- i

just think there is more focus on the mexican border. we need to extend this up to the northern border. all right. i think you, again, for visiting minnesota and will turn this over to my colleagues and the work that all of you are doing to promote tourism. thank you. >> thank you, senator. thank you for leading an these issues over the years. we will wrap up with some final questions followed by center nelson. then we have a vote in a few minutes. >> well, thank you, chairman. mr. wagner, on the nexus global entry question to i am assuming from what you are saying that the problem is canada will not accept the global entry card. >> it is not that there will be accepted. we have to a tee up the approval for canada to approve your entry into canada. they need to do their immigration and low risk analysis of that presence.

with nexis it is said joint application. both governments could it at the same time and both governments had to be the person global entry into the united states. he can come home, but for inch -- entry into and other governments country unique their approval. the programs are late, there is another step. >> is this just something that they can do from their point of view? my impression is that canadians purport to be much more open to our folks come across the they think we are to come on the other way. here's a plan to -- why don't you accept this as an expedited at your card. >> we have discussed it.

it is more into the authorities and. to they can let into their country into makes that determination. much like it is for hours. >> what is the cost for the application? >> $50 for five years. >> people have already paid out hundred dollars. these are all people who reside in the united states. it seems to me we would do them a favor if we could convince the canadians that -- and to buy your application process, you would not have to go through the second time or the people that want a nexus card. you could just issued them a nexus card. maybe you do that. do you do that? if somebody with a global edge ricard says you're going to go to canada, another $50 to get a nexus card. is that the current process? >> correct. then we have to c-span for an appointment with the canadian governments of licking it interview with the border authority.

and then that determine the a dignity of admissibility into canada. hin then we will issue -- >> it's up to us to talk to them about that. maybe we can talk to the canadian government on this topic initially, where we first authorized brand u.s.a., a lot of critics that would say if we charge this waiver fee that will discourage people from coming to the united states, fewer travelers that will choose to go somewhere else. is there any evidence that any of the four of you have that the visa waiver fee has discouraged people from coming to the united states. they have gone to other countries instead. >> we do not have any evidence of that. >> i agree with that. no sign of that at all. >> no. we have seen record increases in international air travel. >> good.

the last thing i wanted to mention of the visa reciprocity with china, generally, our reciprocity is based upon the fact that the of the country is equally eager for our travelers to go there. it is a mutual determination. i have been persuaded for some time that with a the chinese you may, based on the comment you made, be changing their view of this, they have not appeared to care very much about how difficult it is for travelers to go there. we benefit from travellers coming here. i do not know that reciprocity is something that is a goal that we have to be rigidly pursuing if we think it is to our advantage to have more chinese travelers year. the interesting comment you made is, we were both trying to get -- they were trying to get to yes. would you talk about that a little bit more?

are they beginning to change their view, we want americans to come here more and stay longer? and in return for that we are prepared to have a greater reciprocal relationship on -- and that will be my last question, mr. chairman. >> senator, the short answer is yes, we very definitely have the understanding that china is also interested in looking at whether we can extend the demand for travel to china has gone up, and they are, as we are, thinking about how to stay ahead of that demand and make sure that they're able to adjudicate those applications. so we do believe that it is in the best interest of both sides. >> if we cannot what you have done on renewing travel vises in a much better way that we have before.

>> thank you, senator. >> they have called the vote. i have a couple of questions. you testified about 40 -- no, it is up to a $57 billion in trade surplus the industry into a booktv.org. at the same time, we are running eight trade deficit of about $471 billion. now, if we can get to the president's target of 100 million visitors, what do we estimate that to me they should of that trade deficit to be? >> we have not calculated that to what it is something that we could calculate.

a hundred million visitors would generate to order $50 billion in service exports. i don't know that we modeled the other side of it, which is where we expect outbound u.s. travel to be. that is of the we can get back to you. >> it predicted 250 billion to be the amount of service exports if we hit the hundred million visitors number. >> does that equate to the $57 billion in trade surplus or the industry? >> the $57 billion trade surpluses in calendar year 2013. your second question around what 2021 looks like, we have not calculated. >> your target is 2021? >> for 100 million visitors to we estimate was bid $250 billion >> of great. >> madame ambassador, let's go to brazil.

it you testified as to a huge number of brazilians that come to the u.s. at think you said something like 100,000. >> i'm not sure i had that number in my testimony, but it is certainly more than that. >> your name but four countries. >> that account for close to 50 percent of all the pieces we issued. >> according to the cumbersome of this, brazil, over to a half million visitors. i can tell you, a lot of them are coming to florida. >> absolutely. >> and they are specifically going to miami indoor orlando. so we do not have a visa waiver

with brazil. and if you're up brazilian family and want to go to disney world, you have to go to a coslet to have an eyeball to eyeball interview in order to get a visa. is that right? >> yes, sir. although children of the age of 60 do not have to appear. >> the parents might come but would not necessarily need to bring their children. >> okay. and last i checked we had to consulates. one was in rio and another one in brazil. is that right? >> no, sir. we also have consulates in sao paulo. we are working to open

consulates in belo horizonte. we also have what we call of such facilities as centers so that people who are planning to apply for a visa to go and get their figures mistaken and the picture taken and submit their application on my so that when they actually come to the consulate they move through extremely quickly. damage done by testimony on average there in the consulate for less than half an hour. it's a rapid process. once they have the visa then never have to come back because that visa when it expires can be renewed by mail. we just send them the passport back with a new the senate. >> what is the application fee for a visa? >> $160. >> is that per person? >> yes. >> is there a discount for children? >> note : there is not.

>> for a family of four, two adults and two children to really get some real money. >> the fee that we charge, and it is a worldwide fee, but it is based on a very rigorous cost of service model that shows how much it costs us to actually provide that service. we are recouping the cost of running that program globally. that is what determines the fee. and just add, the visa is valid for ten years. they're paying the equivalent of $60 per year to apply. >> soaker and a half family is raising children and they anticipate that they want to take them to disney world, they ought to go ahead because of

these is going to be good for chin years. >> that is exactly right. when we could see across the world, a traveler that has the visa they just the thinking of themselves as a person do white travel again and again and again. we got the 20th anniversary of the 16th but there are 15th birthday. they had planned on travel to the united states. we see that clearly. >> what percentage of your applicants to you reject giving a visa to in brazil? >> i don't have that number exactly. i would like to ask that i take that question and get back to you. and i am pretty sure for applicants for business and tourist travel as does the to%. >> what about world wide?

coor's again, i'm going to have to take the question. i don't know offhand. it varies so dramatically from country to country. >> of those that are rejected, are the intelligence service is basically the people that are rejecting, what percent are you thinking there's something squirrely about this person? as opposed to somebody that you think is just going to be a flight risk is going to get into the country and stay. >> said to take that for the record. >> if you would. >> this has been an impressive group of witnesses. you're all working hard. i think you have seen from work dissipation and a subcommittee of the terrorism knows no ideology.

it is non-partisan, and we look forward to working with all of your agency's in giving you this judge tory authority necessary and the funding necessary to meet our 100 million international visitors will. thank you very much. ..

>> come to order. the 11th of series of hearings about the hiring education act yesterday released my opening thoughts on what it should look like and i have asked all stakeholders to submit their thoughts and comments by august 29th and continue to add to that proposal is today's hearing to determine how best to proceed on that topic. the focus of today's hearing campus sexual assaults is profoundly important. too many students are salted on our nation's college campuses. according to current research one of five winners sexually assaulting her victims of sexual assault while in college we will hear today sexual assaults is not just happen to women

wind out of 60 men have also had sexual assaults and lgbt or those with disabilities may have a higher risk. no student should have to endure something so4:b terrible while in college and today we will hear from the administration from survivors is a researcher about the work they're doing to make college campuses safer for everyone. also explore the higher education act and the title nine why day addressed issues as sexual assault. the clear react -- clery act also shows the appropriate support system is in place for when the assaults occur. title ix one of the of wind marks civil-rights laws also

plays a substantial role to richer colleges have adequate processes to of quickly report addresses of sexual assaults and title ix is critical to provide the support that they need in the aftermath of a sexual assault. we hear about the work the administration is doing to ensure that they meet title line -- title ix obligations. clery act also addresses different ways and some colleges find it underscore -- difficult to find their obligations and this will bring to light for colleges to understand that under both laws. this is an issue that for far too long has been swept under the rug and put in the closet. trie@úáo hide it.çóñoiñiñi we have to address this

forthrightly getting more data moving forward and i read the testimonies of the people testifying today and how we need to change the systems to bring more of this to light to provide colleges that they might need. those testimonies more than anything else is that one size does not fit all. these are not all the same acts buttrç they very in intensity in their approach or perpetrators. and in a lot of circumstances. and one stringent provision that cuts off polyol be one

dash 08 to a college that is never used by the way is not a deterrent at all. we have to look for the deterrence and adequate penalties and fines to settle structures with colleges that is the best course of action of all to let victims know they have recourse you have the support system in place to bring this to light. and this starts that process to where we can address this adequately for the higher education act reauthorization and with that i will turn to senator alexander.

thank you to the witnesses for your comments. i was once a college president and i went to college myself so that is a special experience when you tell your parents goodbye and they are turned over to a college campus and you hope everyone is safe and successful and the focus is that turns out not to be true. the purpose is to find out what we id washington can do to help create the environmentçççóñr and helps campuses discourage sexual assaults which is the subject of the case and then to make sure there are any requirements that they/÷

>> >> to suggest to anybody can make and deficits -- emphasis to make the campus's safe. i don't think the country would want to see the united states senate that cannot even balance a budget cannot even agree how to consider the appropriations bill that you look to to be responsible for campus safety with 6,000 institutions with 7200 canvases and 22 million students. so to look to the dean of students and to the of

role to play to help fund campuses and we have played that role. there is the clery act that i mentioned earlier the rules and regulations with the campus administrator will have to consider and the question we should have is to these help create an environment to discourage sexual assaults or is there something we can do that is simpler clear or more effective than under title ix? their responsibilities and guidance we need to take. i am glad we have the hearing i appreciate the efforts of many senators like a castle who is interested in this and i have met with her and one of the things i would suggest one hugh is a former faculty

of education institution but those of the 7200 campuses to have the job to create an environment including discouraging sexual assault and to make sure the things that we do from here are helpful cannot burden some i look forward to learning from both panels of witnesses. >> we will have two panels the first is the administration witnesses and my first witness is the assistant secretary for civil rights with the department of education and then prior was part of public counsel with the

nation's largest pro bono law firm and practice at the aclu's serving as assistant legal director v;/o served as the teaching fellow in the of litigation program at georgetown. and graduated from amherst. next is mr. james moore manager of clery act compliance division joining the department of education in 1987 has become an expert on the clery act and also as the task force to protect students from sexual assault. we'll come we will start with ms. taylor died if you will sum up your statement then we will move do mr. more.

please proceed. >> thank you so much mr. harkin and ranking member i appreciate the opportunity to be with you today by an empty net with the department of education the enormously talented staff that i work with and i have the privilege to enforce our federal civil-rights laws in schools including title by -- title line and in the 42 years since it became on with colleges and universities having changed their practices so they are not discriminating and in compliance with the lot and i applaud those for recognizing the core educational mission issuers the safety on campus but still sexual violence is pervasive across too many campuses in freer committed to ending that reality. we have investigated more

than post secondary education is issued to policy guidance and significant technical assistance that reach out to us. the president and vice president have created a white house task force to protect students from sexual violence and one key deliverable is the issuance from my office the question previous guidance so we could answer the questions that have come to us about ways to complies with of law and what did is we expect in the school we oat issue guidance related to sexual harassment and his administration was the first to issue guidance specifically on sexual violence as a civil-rights issue.

we have delivered its a diffident assistance for what they can do it we are part prior to use that tool of a place to show that examples does way to achieve last fall we entered into an agreement with the state university of new york serving 219,000 students was the largest impact in the very impressed with the system to have the courage and leadership to change policies to be fully compliant with title ix to deliver the message related

to sexual violence and committed to reopen the case files since 2011 to identify if there is more relieved of the verge and what more should be done. to evaluate to die with the practices to respond in a timely fashion. and for the system we've really when hundred 59 case files the way the university system with the complaints that have come to it. we are impressed with the system to open the files to identify what should be done. butnç the key component is the agreement to bring in the community what needs to be

done that recognizes that there is no one-size-fits-all approach so to identify freeze campus to make sure students are safe and will report to our office and what if any changes they will make to be part of insuring of faithful community response. moving from a very large institution to a larger scenario we entered into the virginia military institution much smaller campus that are a significant concerns and resolutions for retrieving even after some facts that included that had a policy

that requires students that became pregnant had to leave the institution and altogether a and that has also changed but against the backdrop the institution has failed to an five day coordinator and to issue wire coat hangers to call them abortion tools and then also not do discipline a student to make sure the title ix coordinator was involved and that will be change going forward. and to enter into a resolution agreement and then moving from the of large to the small winter due to a resolution with toughs university about his experience there as well i am experience -- impressed with said new training where

they have not had a coordinator for the last year and a half toq,g agree that they do provide relief and investigate the complaints that come to them and change those practices to have prior sexual history as part of the investigation. with the variety and size with the enforcement space and what my staff has been able to achieve because it is so critically important to change the current practice where people who think they don't need to comply with the law or satisfy. i look forward to answering any questions and i appreciate the opportunity to share the work experience with you.

>>. >> did morning members of the committee i manage clery act compliance division thank you for your in duration with the implementation into the amendment to section three of four of the violence against women act. college should be a special time in the life of every student of discovery in joyful memories but for far too many students say have been denied the best of the college experience because of the crisis of sexual assault. as you note clery act for most consumer transparency and other public safety matters by promoting transparency by requiring a institutions to provide in the federal student aid programs to provide accurate

and realistic use of campus crime on campus and surrounding area. it with the crime prevention is providing students and parents the highest quality. they should not have to wonder that crime information is provided is accurate or it has been purposelyp[u manipulated to have a false impression to protect there school's spring and if they are new to a community anything that was a false sense of security is especially dangerous. to hold institutions accountable to have a dedicated team the original team formed 2010 and in 2012 s say realigned the team to strengthen it to make it more prominent. in the short time they noted clery act is a significant

impact the way they confront campus crime the highly skilled professionals is dedicated to the cause of campus safety and carries out the mission of the safety of educators for most soon their mind. they're committed to improving clery act compliance and campus safety through a balanced approach of technical assistance. one of those operating principles to assist it in force whenever we must. the campus crime program review process clery act division looks at compliance with the regulation and also works with institutions to insure corrective actions are implemented and sustained. most have been driven by complaints from students better always the best source of information to help us understand how crime affects their lives on campus and here i must think

the new generation of student advocates to develop and understanding of clery act and a title ix. they use their knowledge to make campuses safer for everyone. and to supplement the reviews with pro-active examinations the office of compliance of the reviews each year. and to look at the drug that is what they do to insure consistency across the country also media coverage of campus crimes with major incidents to determine clandestine

service if they have complied. i'd like to share a little bit of information about the recent work we have done teetwo implement the violence against women act. he added regulations but i can tell you in my 17 years i have never been more impressed of the effort and immediate the from the very beginning to focus on reaching out to the people who are most effective than the top experts of the field to dedicated their lives to addressing this problem in may and june in the institutional officials including the proper role of campus sexual assaults investigations with

confidentiality and in fall 2013 we conducted our reach sessions with campus law enforcement efforts to develop to help here directly how washington should be implemented and also to build relationships across higher education so the program could benefit from there expertise. january through march being together 20 negotiators representing a broad range of experience, interesting and prospective including campus law enforcement professionals coordinators' and students themselves after careful consideration to the committee reached consensus on regulatory language it is av+m great

accomplishment and well we strive to reach consensus it is difficult to do so with so many competing interests represented after reviewing the comments we received on the proposed rule we will issue final regulations this year. the department is confident fed to provisions will provide tools of campus sexual assaults and stocking into more effectively respond within the crimes when they do occur in also insurer up half through campus disciplinary bodies and insure better access to services to which survivors are entitled. it is my sincere belief these improvements with their colleagues and outstanding contributions of the white house task force to prevent students from

sexual assault will result in a meaningful and lasting change. to reiterate we look forward to continuing our collaboration with this committee with the institutional officials in pursuit of our collective goal to put an end to campus sexual assault. >> thank you very much. i will now turn to the five minute questions. >> ms. lhamon about title ix enforcement, but that basically terminating all federal funding if i remember right he said that has never been used? did not and institution of fire on dash higher education. >> night in institution? for this incident senate we have not withheld federal

funds if i may but just last april we have an example how well it is tuffs university working with us they reported to revoke the agreement and i sent a letter they britain free to it has 60 days to cure or we would begin the process to revoke federal funds then within two weeks they became back in compliance with the resolution agreement itself. so the threat of withholding federal funds is an enforcement tool and the reason we can see institutions. >> your statement says it has never been used. >> has to withhold the funds it is an incentive. >> that is the nuclear option around here. >> it is pretty good.

>> maybe something in the background but if there are not other options as part of title four money because of this violation now to the campus based programs for support activities for students. >> with respect to do is think we have that opportunity as part of the resolution of agreement that they change practices. who has that authority. >> not to divert funds. >> you have the authority to tell them they have to direct the funds for that. >> that is semantics. when they have to take steps to use the funds for those

practices for those who come forward to retake an additional staff or report to us about it and conducting on campus and to take steps to train staff and that is very significant. in my 17 years as a civil-rights litigator what i did was use a nuclear option. >> host: you don't need any more authority] from this committee to carry out your oversight and ability to sanction or redirect funds to any of these institutions? you have all the authority that you need. >> data is not our view. >> that is amazing to me.

>> something is not working out there. i'm sorry but something is not working still making a bid you did your testaverde said colleges and universities are retaliating discouraging other survivors and delaying investigations in delaying service and support when investigations are pending and on and on to address the sexual violence as a criminal matter not under title ix. this is what is happening. >> those are cert concerns and but we want to change on campus i think we can enter into a robust agreement i would be delighted to work with your staff has veto for it is critically important that all students are safe and we are moving in that

direction. >> maybe i don't hear this right but nothing more needs to be done? you have all the authority that you need? >> i apologize if i suggested that. but my view is the importance of withholding federal funds should not be undermined and it is the effective tool and there may be more things we can do and i would welcome that it is important to deliver to all kids. >> but in terms of information with clery act the schools are required to provide this information to the students, the general public atlem large had the offer in coming families with sexual violence?

when students look at colleges before it dago is it presented in a format to see and compare from one of college to another? >> 84 the question. all institutions are required to notify prospective students and employees of the annual security report to make it available on request. most schools put on the web site and it is right there. >> are you saying the schools are doing a good job of this? >> they're doing a relatively good job to produce the reports. we do find a seat to the camp violations with the statistics.

so there are violations out there when we find them we take action we hope these new requirements will give us additional tools to have additional disclosures to allow students to have better information about the environment that they go into with regards to sexual assaults. >> you both in the united states department of education? and mr. more talked-about regulations you are proposing under the of violence against women act sea withdrew a one dash so you were going to go astray a comment period some institutions can say what they think about it?

>> correct. >> you talk about guidance to do expect institutions to comply with your documents? >> we do. >> under what authority? >> why do you not go through this same process of public comment and roll and regulations the state department goes over here? civic we would favor regulatory changes. >> why are in -- what are they? he requires 6,000 institutions to comply? >> we do. >> but you just make a chance with no regulatory approval or comments? >> how can you do that?

why would do not ask institutions or people who may have been insulted what they think of your guidance before you apply your guidance to the 22 million students on 7,000 campuses? >> we have a long list of conversations this gimmickry were in the same department as u.s. department of education under clery act egos through regulatory process after discussions and asking for comment been a regulation in congress has a chance to weigh in but you just issued here own opinion as far as i can tell. >> nine at -- not correct. >> who is responsible? >> i am. steve spee mcfadyen is the law? i thought we'd made though loss. >> i do not. >> it is the explanation of

what title ix means to make to gave you the authority? >> you did when i was confirmed. >> we told you that you could make the law? then why does he go to public notice and comment if you don't have to? >> i do when you we regulate it is not a regulatory guidance veneti greatly disagree. i greatly disagree. what you'reúnñ doing is writing about detailed guidance for 22 million students on 7200 campuses on your whim or your idea. we in make a lot. you do not. where does that come from? and ply with the same department and how often tuesday to review meet with the department? how many times in the last year? american icahn not count because it is so many. we work very, very closely.

>> and with those rules that are proposed? >> and my team is part of the notice and comment process spinet guy and very concerned the arbitrary individual and the department to save what the law is. i understand your to offices have signed a formalized agreement to better handle complaints and share information. >> correct. >> because senate-passed you failed to coordinate invade confusion on campuses about how to coordinate the responsibilities of sexual assaults as they looked at title ix and clery act? >>. >> there was room for growth

and i am pleased with the collaboration in the 10 months and i have been here think it is working extremely well. >> what type of formal procedures did you have to discuss your guidance with institutional officers who have to comply with your guidance? held many meetings did you have with institutional offices? >> it took about three years to get that document and we had many meetings with college and university officials and associates -- associations and student'oc activists and title ix coordinators and a tremendous weber of in person meetings asking questions telling us what we need. it was a long process that

involved many stakeholders to give them greater clarity and guidance. >> i would say to my colleagues we should carefully consider not just in this case but in other cases whether fda the difference between a lot and a regulation that is proposed by the department of education and is growing business of issuing guidance where there is no opportunity for the public comment that the regulatory procedure has. >> have senator murray next. >> i appreciate you holding this hearing. to permit the investigation investigates title ix van clery act violations and 55

colleges including washington state is under a title like violations what are some best practices in the field to proactively prevent sexual assaults? >> thank you. among the best practices we hope to see is a climate surveys to identify how students feel about the campus to identify whether the message has said received by the students of where to go and what is tolerated and what is not and you to complain to and if there is a feeling of safety so we think this survey is the important first step but it is critically important about the hostile environment so the full community is clear about what is acceptable and critically important to let

studentscbi know who darr coordinator is and do their resources are so they can access if they need it added it is extremely important to have a fully functional investigative process 74 is available so students can be clear and appropriate steps are taken. >> i appreciate that response. have the question about the legislation the higher education act that requires colleges and universities to establish within the apartment of education to support anti-harassment programs wouldn't that be helpful? >> you would be enormously helpful i cannot tell you

how much sat would mean to us as part of the rule i visit campuses to look at the violence against women to grant program to see what success basie and i have real jealousy that they king get the agreement and ask for changes that they know that the needs to be made with being created -- very meaningful for us. >> they give for your work on that initiative. what we find with teas for interior excited with regard to a climate surveys to understand what the culture is before you can address it effectively one of the new

tools required pre-will require schools primary prevention that only works and a pro-active way to understand if you have problems with rotc or fraternities and sororities to make sure that training will address all those issues. of culture and climate that are problematic we have to have an understanding of harassment, as several other factors. thank you very much. >> mr. chairman the topics as young people go to college choose start careers to build their futures, they should at least feel safe on campus to feel confident of their victims of crime that

people around them will respond quickly. i know now that for 20 years federal government has been collecting and disclosing data. and to you noted the department of education released a draft rules on expanded data collection. that could be a powerful tool to understand the problems we face but i want to ask how the data are used. can you tell me what analysis the department of education from clery act data and the analysis? >> thank you senator for the question. but we do to validate this information is to go to

schools to conduct client assessments to look at substantial samples of the incident reports to see if they are classified. >> said you validate that you get good data you get the independent on the ground evaluation. >> police incident reports, a student contact, h.r., sometimes in depth athletic departments or fraternity offices anybody to adjudicate or discipline or investigate issues to look data4t records from those offices. >> you look at what was reported then that you know, about the quality of the data and i presume if the match is not a good then you have an ongoing relationship with the school on how to improve data reporting?

>> there is corrective action components if it is a substantial misrepresentation in the school could be subject to action which is of fine spirit getting them into compliance but we have been collecting information over 20 years presumably the quality has gone better over time and more complete but then what do you do? >> we collect from institutions into the analysis for the trend. >> school by school basis? >> but also across sectors of education and to look at community colleges that crime environment is very different verses of for-profit education that

doesn't have the big fraternity your sports programs then we looked at the traditional institutions that have four types of crime occurring stem make you make that public? >> but the analysis is not. >> so you do the analysis but then what happens? and nt user id and the contact with a proposal such changes to the rose? >> to use data at ms. lhamon as part of your enforcement strategies? >> we do.t%y

>> he may begin to investigate do have the investigation of their own. because it may seem like they're not reporting properly. and for ben creation of the status cool. >> i am almost at a time but are there and other data that you will find helpful that you feel ought to be there? but one that i would like to have now. i have a civil rights data collection night conduct is

that i find for the work that we do? it is for a civil-rights compliance. >> i very much appreciate this. >> i am glad to hear about this. >> to collect better data if i needed that focus on prevention needs to be far more intense. >> senator casey. >> mr. chairman thank you very much and a witness says for the testimony on this tool get the word you have

done were so many others this has persistedw[ in for reacting appropriately this is the ultimate betrayal of a woman who attends college. but then they send them to institutions that many don't take this issue seriously. it should be under the of zero tolerance effort and the perpetrator should be labeled as such white house dirty and monster and i know that upsets some people but it is the way i see it in the institutions should do a

lot of things already but some of them have not gotten the message sent to send that more directly to have some rules and i do glad we've made great progress when every reauthorize the of violence against women act and to we have made progress with those other matters that were not addressed. we have a long way to go but with those elements with your testimony on page to number four to clarifying definitions which better strategies to get bystander's involved for

what they should be doing as of bystander with a whole range of changes to take place but what i want to ask in particular is now that you are in the process to make sure these provisions are implemented, how long will schools come into compliance? >> thank-you for the question. of fellow pennsylvanian you make me very proud. in two additional guidance in death to make their best good-faith effort with the statutory language. when issa to shin's issue the security report in the

october what we are both keen to see is that schools to implement these requirements to have a full year to recalibrate with additional guidance with all the work we have done you can guarantee there is a piece here or there that we have to go back to redress in to have the complete rewrite of the handbook to be available to the schools and also working on the other training materials so by the time we get to october everybody should be on the same page. >> i plan to ask as well the

institutions that they are overwhelmed with rules but those that we have to comply with sova currently on implementation the department will be a to go for word. >> we have increased presence that trading conference is a and increased both of the number of guidance documents and the quality of those documents brought down to a and double that shouldgxñ be easy for all institutions to implement the you have 6,000 schools some with 25 in a strip mall betting cosmetology school in did

issa very flexible program here requires schools to take that and employment they need that implementation plan. we want to give them best practice information to allow them to develop that in a way of the large school and a small school. >> thank you, mr. chairman chairman. earlier in this session of congress we took some long over due steps of sexual assaults in the of military. a end in exhibiting the

assaults i discovered there is no specific focus to look into intellect data on sexual violence of the trading for program on our nation's college campuses. . .