the university of texas by people always talk about this and it is quite déjà vu you because in my hometown we had 900 people and for churches and religion is what people and are counted as well for socialization and people went to church. in my particular family we had no tv or telephone and we were not allowed to wear shorts or pants because that is indecent, the same view that the saudi arabians would have an arsenal up on the county and certainly not in our household.

so it was very like saudi arabia and i went to a church where there were musical instruments, which is another -- and saudi arabia you don't have musical instruments and you don't sing. the music is forbidden. and we sang in our church and we could make a joyful noise unto the lord, but not for that. so is very fascinating. so i did not go to church in saudi arabia and actually i did the first time i went. the business community used to have church services in the 70s and they probably still be somewhere. and i was invited to what was

called the welfare service as opposed to church and they call it a welfare service and most of the people were either gleams and they were doing this as well and there were a lot in that as well. >> host: if you are jewish american, would you be allowed in saudi arabia and that. >> yes, they do not allow this to accompany obama on this latest trip when he went. and there are jewish americans that are part of the without particular difficulty. and i mean, they were seen as people of the book.

so they did not have as much problem. i would say the conservative religious people still have a much greater problem with shiite muslims than christians or jews. sweeping the lowdown, but not nearly as lowdown as the shiites because they are prostituting including islam and we are not. we are just not believers. but not in the right believe. >> host: finally, karen elliott house, you close with an analogy of the royal 747. what is that analogy? >> the country is like a 747, the cockpit filled with

geriatric pilots. and the rest of them in some cases would like to turn this around and crush it in somewhere there may be a pilot that can safely land the plane but they never get a chance. and there are those that can leave the country and whether the right people get a chance or not remains to be seen. >> host: karen elliott house as our author, "on saudi arabia: its people, past, religion, fault lines" esser buck. here is the cover. the tv is on location at pepperdine university.

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