i want to say i have been involved with this issue since '95. and it has been -- people have been helpful to me. unfortunately when i got infected the situation was really bad were people held this against you and a couple people i worked for shoved me out the door. now they have made such advances they are down to one pill. i am monitored every quarter and my health is really, really good. i will tell you ryan white and elton john and everybody else including president obama has been awesome on this subject. i am surprised the lady didn't give him any credit. they have been awesome. the only thing i had a problem

with and i would like to mention it is there has to be an easier way to communicate you have this situation without getting like everybody is going to run from them. >> caller: i was going to thank you and the other callers living with hiv to speak up. there is a lot of stigma against discrimination and ryan white. but there is stigma still especially in the south against gay people, against you know certain races of people, and so you know people are afraid still to come out. people will talk about, you know, they may have asthma but it is difficult for people living with hiv to come out. so i am thankful for the caller

this morning who are brave enough in speaking up. we need other people -- as i said there is over a million people and maybe if we didn't stigmatize hiv so much it would help in decreasing the number of infections. >> host: bill is up next in ohio. democratic caller. you are on the air. >> caller: if this is coming from my tax dollars there is other diseases out there that is killing a lot more people than aids. we have diabetes, we have lung and breast cancers. most of time you went and got this disease on your own. >> guest: as i said earlier, the other diseases deserve research

and i will also say because of the affordable care act people will get coverage no matter what their disease is because the ban on preexisting conditions is over. so it doesn't matter if you have hiv, diabetes, lung cancer, you have to be covered under insurance. and if your state moves forward with the medicare expansion and you are low income you will have access to medicaid. that is the good news no matter what your condition is. >> host: so people who are living with hiv/aids if they get their insurance through the exchange or medicaid is it going to cover them entirely? you heard the caller from new york saying it does. >> guest: it depends on the state. and new york maybe in a better situation than other states. not every drug is on every insurance plan which is a problem. new drugs don't also get covered

and we are finding a lot of plans have large out-of-pocket expenses with some causing 40% of the cost and others 10%. and that is why we need the ryan white program. >> host: on average, how much does someone receive from the fund to cover the cost? >> guest: it differs. i think it is around $10,000 a year for the cost of the drugs and doctor visits and other services as well. i am not quite sure what the average cost is. but i would say the program now serves in some way 550,000 people and the federal

government cost is $2.3 billion. >> host: going to oklahoma where mike is calling, independent caller living with hiv/aids. >> caller: i receive assistance from ryan white currently. i want to stipulate how important this is. i did make mistakes when i was younger. 12 years ago i was in boston and my viral load was at a million, it killed my immune system and it was down to three. i came to oklahoma to die because i had family here. but right now i am non-detectable. ... what's important about this people think it's just gay people or drug users who get hiv. that is far from true. i was a drug user and i made

mistakes, but i've been clean since i moved to oklahoma. this is what's important. i'm a heterosexual. aids or hivr spread to any woman. but when you're viral load is as high as mine was, at one million, it would be so easy for to spread it to 10 women. by reducingy -- by reducing -- i'm not detectable right now. >> host: you said you do get the money from the ryan white care program. how much my geeky to cover your expenses and is it enough? >> caller: actually, my caseworker knows probably more about that but yes ryan white supports -- idaho works the ryan

white -- >> guest: individuals don't get the money themselves. it covers the cost of health care, and caseworkers like he said. the cost of the drug. the people themselves don't get the money. >> host: this is a good opportunity to explain how the process works from the federal government on down. >> guest: the federal government divides the money and goes to the large cities, every state and some clinics as well directly funded clinics. and then people, every state sets their eligibility based on the degree of poverty. and then the people go to these clinics and are helped. it's funded through the federal government. might, again, thank you for speaking up. i think also come you talked

about the need for people to be on medication to get your viral load down and not transmit the virus. the other thing i would like to mention is the importance of testing. if people don't know they have the virus, they can be unwillingly transmitting the virus to other people. and around half of all new infections occur from people who don't know it. so there's over 200,000 people in the united states who don't know they have hiv, who have hiv is the estimate, and there's 50,000 new infections every year so that's why when you go to the doctor, no matter who you are, how old you are, you should get an hiv test. >> host: in case you missed it we're just speaking before with bright lights mother who was living in florida. she has this piece in roll call which is capitol hill newspaper and protecting the ryan white program. her piece advocating for

reauthorization of the ryan white program but it has expired that president obama has continued to allocate the money, $2.3 billion for this program. independent collar hi. >> caller: hi. the virus is arbitrarily chosen to use up the abt which is used to toxic for cancer so they blame the death attribute to aids which is really caused by the toxic drug moment of the toxic drug they can dream up. reading and thinking the aids virus -- >> host: have you heard about this? >> guest: no. this sounds like ancient lore that actually is not true. >> host: north carolina, democratic caller living with hiv/aids. go ahead. >> caller: as i was explainin explaining, i am under the

program ryan white. and without this program, my future is just, i don't know. i have been a victim for 10 years now, and my viral load is undetectable in my medicine, one medicine alone among the $2500 a month. that's one and i am taking too. i'm almost 50 and i definitely, i want the future. without this program i'm afraid that i won't have a future. i'm just so afraid. >> guest: thank you again for speaking up and calling in, and you are right, this program is so critical. where do you live? >> host: are you still there? go ahead.

she lives in north carolina track to the unfortunate thing is north carolina is not expanding medicaid at this time. and probably you could benefit from that. but fortunately there is a ryan white program. it's last resort when private insurance, medicare, medicaid does not cover something, and the ryan white program is there helping people like connie. you know, the program is not in any danger. it doesn't need to be reauthorized today or tomorrow. it could be a couple years from now. i think we need some analysis to see how health care is working. but in the meantime we need to make sure that the funding continues for the program. and so, connie, thank you. >> host: role in in new hampshire. independent caller. >> caller: yes.

i'm calling regard, i'm a diabetic and i don't understand, i just get on the needle and aarp tells me i can have the insulin for the first six months at $120 per quarter, but the next two quarters i'll be in a doughnut hole andy schleck $2500 for the insulin. how come this is so expensive? it's only for little vials where i had to take a shot every day. >> guest: i'm not an expert on other medications, but yes, medications cost money. going to the hospital cost money, and i think hopefully there is some new systems in place that we can see decreases in spending. but it sounds like you on medicare, and so that would be a medicare issue. >> host: his scenario, falling

in a doughnut hole, does that happen with hiv/aids treachery definitely. again because of the affordable care act, a doughnut hole is getting smaller, and he used to be a lot -- it's going to close up in the next couple of years but it's getting smaller and smaller. for people living with hiv or in medicare, the ryan white program helps with a doughnut hole. >> host: newark, ohio, independent caller. >> caller: i'm just wondering with all of your federal and private funding to receive, how much other donations like to go back to therapy and not just salary and marketing within your company? >> guest: we don't receive ryan white funding. we are a nonprofit. we get support from foundations and other entities.

but we don't ourselves get the funding. the funding does -- the ryan white funding goes to states, state government. it goes to city governments and the cows, you know, to clinics. under the ryan white law there is a cap on administrative expenses to make sure that the funding goes to the patients, and within that there's also a percentage that has to go to court medical services like case management, like medication and health care, the doctors. so that is thing in the law to guard against that. >> host: michigan, democratic caller. >> caller: yes. the reason the medication causes so much is because we subsidize the other countries. >> host: okay, is that true, carl schmid tragedy in effect,

yes, the caller is correct. the research is basically done here in the united states. and we are paying for that. but i agree with the caller. >> host: here's a tweet. >> guest: so, i do hope the drugs will work tomorrow but there's always research on new medications, easier to take medications that will be easier to tolerate on the body. but, you know, and then as i said, we have to do research for a cure. nih and other scientists are doing that as well. but we do have to eradicate this disease. but in the meantime the medications are the best. >> host: port arthur, texas, independent. go ahead. >> caller: i have a couple

comments, and one, i am living with the virus. and the young lady, well, young, yes, she is, that said she's addicted. no, honey, you are a survivor. don't ever give up. number two, that was a man who was cured. i've been tearing the house apart looking for the magazine. he had leukemia and had a bone marrow transplant and when they put the story in the magazine, he had been three years with no medication with a viral load of zero. >> host: have you heard this, carl schmid? >> guest: yes, and that is promising. it would be hard to replicate because you can certain indicators in your body. as you said he did go through a bone marrow transplant. it's a difficult procedure, and everyone agrees not everyone will do this and we will not be doing this around the country. i think scientists can learn from this person.

also there was a case of the baby in mississippi that he was believed eradicated the virus and she was living, she's older now, she's not a baby anymore but the virus has, unfortunately, returned. but he didn't scientist can learn from these examples and hopefully can replicate this and learn from the. >> host: baltimore maryland. welcome to the conversation. >> caller: good morning. i was calling because i know you're all talk but hiv but i have hepatitis c, and they started doing medication. and at the time i had medicare and medicaid, but they dropped my medicaid. so i called patient advocate network and they picked up the payment for the medication because after medicaid have dropped, i would have to pay $500 a month co-pay along with

my medicare. and others on medication for a year. as of september the 23rd, 2013, the hepatitis c is gone. they don't say it's undetectable. they just say it is gone. >> guest: this is the exciting thing. with hiv, people have to take meds every single day for the rest of their lives. with hepatitis c there some new treatments out there that are very exciting, they can actually cure you. so i don't know why you lost your medicaid. or medicaid stopped covering this drug. that's unfortunate. we are seeing some restrictions on this drug which is really serious in some states. and yo to say that people like evelyn shouldn't have this drug. and this is a cure. it will save money in the long run for our system.

and so there are some outfits that will help with co-pays. that's excellent. but there's no reason why medicaid or medicare should not cover this drug. >> host: if people have questions about how to navigate this old system, can they go to your website? >> guest: they can go to our website, aids institute.org, and feel free to contact us that way uzbek carl schmid is the deputy director of the aids institute. thank you for your time. >> guest: thank you. >> join us tonight for more interviews from our latest book "sundays at eight." we have taken conversations from book notes and q&a programs. tonight's featured author, here's a preview. >> how did you come to the country illegally and then how did you become legal? >> so, it's quite interest. so you know that through the country, this country was built upon people who have come and

immigrated to this country. some of them legally, some of them illegally. in my case i came here with no documentation and the ability to get a job or an education. so when i first came in into the united states in the late '80s and i crossed the border between mexico and the united states, ended up coming into the san joaquin valley to work as a migrant farm worker. there was no challenge to find a job. there were not a lot of thousands of people turn to get the jobs of pulling weeds with the very same hands that are now doing brain surgery. i was pulling the weeds. if you can imagine pulling the weeds from the land that is doing all the products, cauliflower, corn, all those things. my hands were bloody, continuously being hurt. so the were not a lot of people lining up. i came in and asked for a job and i got a job. didn't eventually right around ronald reagan had immigration

reform. that gave a working -- specifically for people who would been in the united states for a certain amount of years and then it was special legislation for people who came and worked as migrant farm workers. that legislation allowed to have a working authorization. that was the first state come in to pay taxes. and eventually -- you can do that anywhere. you couldn't go back to your country. but it allowed you to work legally, pay taxes and eventually apply for a green card which is eventually i did. so the country was welcoming people like me who worked in the district it was a different time. and i felt that i was given an opportunity. an opportunity to live the american dream. >> join us later when we show you our interview with dr. alfredo quinones-hinojosa again in its entirety, from our q&a

program. it's one of the author interviews from our latest book, sunday's addicted to consider program today at 7 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> here's a look at some of tonight's primetime programs across the c-span networks. >> here's some of the highlights for this weekend. friday at 8 p.m. eastern a history tour looking at the civil war. saturday at 6:30 p.m. eastern "the communicators" visits the technology there on capitol hill. sunday political commentator, author and former presidential candidate pat buchanan on c-span2 friday night at eight eastern, books on hillary

clinton, barack obama and edward snowden. saturday at 10 p.m. eastern on "after words" "the weekly standard"'s daniel huppert, and sunday morning at 10:30 a.m. which were the literary sites of casper, wyoming. on c-span3 friday night at eight eastern the negro leagues kansas city monarchs. saturday at 6 p.m. eastern on the civil war the depiction of slavery in movies. and sunday on real america at 4 p.m. an interview with president herbert hoover. let us do what you think about the programs you're watching. call us at (202) 626-3400 or e-mail us at comments at c-span.org. joined a c-span conversation, like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. >> more from today's edition of "washington journal" now. we took your phone calls and looking to some of the items in the news. this is about half an hour. >> host: we are back for the next 30 minutes we will get your thoughts on hillary clinton,

former secretary of state recent interview with the atlantic which is critical of president obama's approach on syria, iraq, iran and issue. here's the headline. hillary clinton failure to a syrian rebels has led to the rise of isis in iraq. that's what the former secretary of state had to say, probable candidate for president is what jeffrey goldberg writes. when she outlines her foreign policy doctrine to him in his interview, that was published on saturday. excuse me, on sunday. president obama sat down with thomas frieden of "th of "the nk times" on friday and he responded to this criticism of him over this issue of arming city. is what he had to say. skip with respect to say it's always been a fantasy, this idea that we could provide some light arms or even more sophisticated arms to what was essentially an opposition made up of former

doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth. and that they would be able to battle not only a well armed state, but also a well armed state backed by russia, backed by iran. a battle hardened hezbollah. that was never in the cards. >> host: that was president obama when he sat down in an interview with the new york times on friday responding to this criticism. here's what hillary clinton had to say in her interview with jeffrey goldberg. also in this also in this article she talked about president obama's doctrine, if you will, and she

said about when you intervene in countries, and she was quoted as saying that great nations need organizing principle, and don't do stupid stuff is not an organizing principle, referring to what president obama has said about military intervention in other countries. want to get your thoughts on this this one. what do you make of the criticism. bronx, new york, democratic caller. you're up first. >> caller: hi. i would like to talk about the fabled issue going on in nigeria and across the world. >> host: i'm going to stick your topic here this morning. we've gotten a little over 20 minutes left, want to get everybody's thoughts on what hillary clinton sad to see. there's a lot in the newspapers this morning, folks weighing in about what hillary clinton has had to say and why she was doing, why she's saying what she's saying.

here's "the wall street journal" this morning. they hillary metamorphosis. he writes this -- didn't she once described hosni

mubarak is a family frien >> host: what do you think of hillary clinton's criticism of president obama's foreign policy. >> caller: thank you, everyone. greta, one other thing. i've got to say it was 1973 that bashir assad told me that he wish he had more of a childhood, but that's irrelevant now. i mean, the man is an animal. he's taking testosterone supplements along with putin. but i think obama is right and

hillary is wrong, because for the simple reason that obama has been on this thing a lot more than hillary has. oh, yeah, the other thing about benghazi, i think petraeus was at getting his multistate. >> host: okay, we'll go to fred, republican caller. go ahead. >> caller: thank you for c-span. all i see is where giving hillary clinton free advertisement and three campaign realm. we certainly don't need another clinton in the white house, and her stance on sure is just to make it look good for her now. it's all part of a plan that the democrats got to get the first woman in power in the united states. and she has no program to make this country come out of the mess it's in.

we are in as financially. we are in mess most morally, and she certainly is not the person to bring the country together and get us out of this mess and only god knows what it's going to take. on the republican side, who do you think could get us out of this mess? caller: the person that comes up is going to have to be somebody that is more trustworthy than what we have seen. i don't know if mitt romney is the man for sure or not. i have my doubts about him. it has to be somebody like the governor of wisconsin. i see that could get us going in the right direction. blaming all of the situation on bush, there is enough mistakes to go around for everybody. host: o

surface as far as blaming all the situation on bush, he made mistakes, that's for sure, but there's enough to go around for everybody in d.c. >> host: back to brett stephens article, column, excuse me, in "the wall street journal." he says there are few possible answers to why she's doing this: john in new york. democratic caller. c-span.thanks for john in flushing, new york, democratc caller. john, go ahead. >> caller: yes. thanks to c-span. so with respect to mrs. clinton's comment about

obama saying, using referencing the phrase "doing stupid stuff," i think that she's been akip to doing stupid -- akin to doing stupid stuff by virtually sanctioning the war against iraq that was built upon this fictitious weapons of mass destruction situation. and her commentary is, obviously, some political, with some political gain. and i think obama has been rather pragmatic, thoughtful. this light of all the chaotic situations that's going on in the world today, we can't continual continually rush headlong -- >> host: if she runs for president, do you vote for her in a democratic primary? >> caller: i'd rather vote for rand awl because she's nothing -- paul because she's nothing but a neo-con anyway.

>> host: so you would switch from being a democrat and vote for rand paul. >> guest: if she's running, yes. >> host: okay, thank you. >> caller: thanks, thanks for c-span. this is not something a longheld view, this is about potential political contributions from, you know, the israeli lobby. and this is just aggression. the fact of the matter is that syria, assad's actually protected the minorities. the regime, thal -- thal to weitz protect the christians, the jews, and that's not a regime to be proud of, it's an authoritarian regime. but the israelis want it destroyed. and consequently, politicians

take these campaign contributions. sheldon edelson put out $100 million -- one single donor -- $100 million given to politicians who support support his number one stated objective which is the rex of israel. >> host: okay, all right. bill in florida, democratic caller. hi, bill. >> caller: hello, and thanks for c-span. now, i just want to remind the american people that i hope and pray that they don't forget how we got into this in the first place i. wasn't hillary, it wasn't obama. they inherited this. thank you. >> host: okay. all right. bill, well, that's what eugene robinson says in his column this morning in "the washington post" with the headline that we're still paying for bush's mistakes. ewe gene robinson, liberal columnist, writing that in "the washington post" this morning.

we're getting your thoughts on hillary clinton's criticism of president obama's foreign policy. she sat down with the atlantic, jeffrey goldberg n a lengthy piece. go to the atlantic.com, you can read -- there it is on your screen. you can read the write-up by jeffrey goldberg, but then underneath that he also has the question and answer, the transcript to his interview with her. and then on friday president obama sat down with tom freed beman of the new york times -- friedman of the new york times, the columnist over there, and "the new york times" videotaped that interview. it's a lengthy one, it's almost 60 minutes. so if you missed that, dwowk to new york times.com, and they have video clips of it and the swire video if you want to watch it there. this is from politico's playbook this morning with the headline: 84 cays to midterms. this could be awkward. hillary clinton, after taking a tough shot at president obama in last week's interview with jeffrey goldberg, is schedule

today party with the potus tomorrow night on martha's vineyard. the occasion? an 80th birthday party for ann dibbie jordan. sarah, ft. lauderdale, florida, republican caller. >> caller: people that worked for hillary in the white house said she was cold, mean and exacting. and i think she says whatever gets her wings going for the moment. i don't think she's genuine, and the iraq war that she voted for is partly the reason we're in the huge mess that we're in today. please don't make me have to look at hillary clinton all during the election cycle. i think i will throw up. thank you. >> host: sarah rah, who do you want to run on the republican side? >> guest: rand paul, i guess. >> host: you guess. you don't sound very enthusiastic. >> caller: you know, we need someone who's really genuine and who is not -- actually, what we

need is no more election politics by corporations. we need the people to be debating on c-span, on all the pbs stations. they don't need to do all those silly ads they do against each other. let 'em debate til their tongues swell up, ask we'll know exactly -- and we'll know exactly what they're like and exactly what they think. and the media, of course, doesn't want that to happen because they get a windfall of money. but this expensive re-election thing that the american people are backing is foolish. it's just foolish. and, again, hillary would be kind of a joke, actually, if she got in the white house. >> host: all right, sarah. let's move on to nathan in connecticut, democratic caller. hi, nathan. >> caller: hi, greta. i agree with the last thing that the floridian said before me but nothing else. thank you for c-span. greta, i think you handle the callers better than anybody else. i do think that hillary should

be criticizing the president's foreign policy. i don't think his -- i don't want him to attack anybody, i mean, bomb anybody. i think mrs. clinton will clearly be the next president of the united states, i don't think anybody be can oppose her and succeed in winning the white house, so i'm glad that she is being critical of the president at this point. >> host: so, nathan, how old are you? what do you do for a living? >> caller: i'm retired, i'm a yellow dog democrat. i'm a part-time special education teacher and a writer and singer. [laughter] >> host: so, nathan, what's appealing about having hillary clinton in the oval office? >> guest: i think she is an effective world leader already, i think she's the smartest person in the room, i think she can unite a -- [inaudible] which is exactly how senator

obama became president. i was very hopeful that he would be a peacemaker, not a warmaker. i wrote him a letter to that effect, please stop making war. you're a nobel peace prize winner, your daughters go to sidwell friends school which is a quaker school which teaches peaceful resolution of conflict, and you're going to go down in history as just another warmaker unless you withdraw our troops and stop these bombings. i know they're humanitarian, but we cannot fix the arab world. >> host: well, nathan, do you think hillary clinton in this interview sounds hawkish as some people are describing her, that she would go to war? >> caller: i started to say i did not read, i did not read it, so probably -- my comments are probably premature. but i think that we should have the defensive stance and not an offensive staff. >> host: okay. >> caller: and if i've misspoken because of her criticism, i

still think he should be taken to task for his foreign policy. >> host: margaret, independent caller from west virginia -- >> caller: hi. i'd just like to say that -- oh, i'm sorry. >> host: we're listening. go ahead. >> caller: i'd just like to say i don't think hillary clinton would get elected. she certainly wouldn't get elected this west virginia. and i think that ben carson should be on the ballot for the next election even if we have to do a write-in, because i think he's the only person -- and i know he's not in politics, but he's the only person today that has a clear mind and see what's down the road for this country. >> host: okay. all right. vip sent in that toma, washington, republican. -- tacoma, washington. >> caller: yeah, good morning. >> host: morning. >> caller: i'm surprised at the previous caller. if you listen to most of the women that call in, they totally

are anti-clinton. but i don't have any -- my comment is totally different. there were some concern about obama and clinton at a fundraiser or something in martha's vineyard on vacation, and someone said that they were concerned that this may be an awkward moment for the two of them. i don't think so. i mean, they've been in politics all their lyes, and -- lives, and they can hate each other across the room is and smile. i don't think there will be anything be awkward about their meeting. >> host: okay. all right, vincent. back to the atlantic interview with jeffrey goldberg, this is from the piece online. jeffrey goldberg writes: she responded by arguing that there is a happy medium between bellicose posturing of the sort she associated with george w. bush and its opposite, a focus

on withdrawal. quote: you know when you're down on yourself and when you are hunkering down and pulling back, you're not going to make any better decisions than when you were aggressively, college rently putting yourself forward. one issue is we don't even tell our own story very well these days. i responded by saying, that the u.s. on balance has done a good job of advancing the cause of freedom. clinton responded to this idea with great enthusiasm. that's how i feel. maybe this is old fashions. and then she seemed to signal that, yes, indeed, she's planning to run for president. okay, i feel that this might be an old-fashioned idea, but i'm about to find out in more ways than one. what do you make of hillary clinton's criticism of president obama's foreign policy? tony, summerville, south carolina, democratic caller. your up next. -- you're up next. >> host: yes, i am shocked, okay? i am shocked for her to criticize the president.

she's joining the republican chorus of treason. i am really shocked. but, but between her and any republican, any of the people that they have brought forth, okay? i will vote for her. i will support her 100% rather than any of the people they have brought forth. >> host: so she -- you think, toni, she's got the base no matter what, the democratic base? >> guest: yes. i think she does. she has the young people, okay? people really look up to her and admire her, and that's why i'm shocked that she joined the treasonous chorus. >> host: well, she hasn't -- if she runs, she hasn't gone through a democratic primary yet. do you think she can survive by -- >> caller: she'll win it. she'll win it. i wish, i wish bernie sanders would win. that's who i really want. >> host: okay. >> caller: and my second choice would be joe biden. >> host: and, toni, how old are

you? >> caller: how old am i? 62. [laughter] >> host: what did you do for a living or what do you do for a living? >> caller: i do surveys. >> host: okay. all right. in servile, south carolina, that's toni. we'll go to larry, franklin, north carolina. >> caller: how are you? >> host: miles anmorning. >> caller: i've just got one thing to say about hillary. i probably would support her and everything, but she's just like all the others. they're all lawyers. if you look at your courthouse in your local community, that's probably the worst place run around, is a courthouse. so i don't understand why we elect lawyers to washington, then they come out of office and just rip off the american people. >> host: okay, larry. newt gingrich, the former speaker of the house, the cnn co-host of "cross fire," here's the headline: gingrich showers hillary for with praise for her interview calling it candid, direct and very impressive.

terry, rosedale, indiana, democratic caller. >> caller: hi, i how are you? >> host: morning. >> caller: good morning. and i have two things to say. first, that obama is the chief. they need to give him the respect of him being president. and the other thing is i'd like to see a cartoon with the ceos of the big companies as puppetmasters and the republican party as the puppets. >> host: okay. oh, sorry, terry, i thought you were done. sorry about that. from tom friedman's column, president obama talks to thomas friedman about iraq, putin and israel. he writes: president obama's hair is definitely grayer these days and no doubt trying to manage foreign policy accounts for at least half of those gray hairs. but having had a chance to spend an hour touring the horizon with him in the white house map room

last friday afternoon, it's clear that the president has a take on the world borne of many lessons over the past six years, and he has feisty answers for his foreign policy critics. obama made clear he's only going to involve america more deeply in places like the middle east to the extent that the different communities there agree to an exclusive politics of no victor, no vanquished. the united states is not going to be the air force of iraqi shiites or any other faction. he cautioned president vladimir putin of russia could insays ukraine at any time and if he does, quote: trying to find our way back to a relationship with russia during the remainder of my term will be much more difficult. intervening in libya was the right thing to do but doing it without sufficient follow-up on the ground to manage libya's transition to more democratic politics is probably his biggest foreign policy regret. raymond in new york, independent caller. what do you to make of hillary

clinton's critique of president obama's foreign policy? >> caller: well, first off, i guess, i see both of them as leadership failed in their policies and foreign oil. as far as hillary, we still have the scandal with benghazi and her political career, i would think that would be on a loss because of that. at one time i guess i would have enlightened myself, but after that i don't consider it. >> host: okay. all right, raymond. east point, michigan, democratic caller. hi, barbara. >> caller: good morning. >> host: morning. >> caller: i just want to say, first of all, i'm 74, and i remember when women were only good for secretarial jobs or nurse or a schoolteacher. hillary is to be admired. just look where she is. so i admire that. but i have to say i really don't want to see her run because there's a possibility she'll be

defeated. and that would tarnish her reputation. as far as agreeing or disagreeing with the president, i don't see where he would benefit from a yes man. we wouldn't benefit from somebody who didn't point out other avenues to be taken. i think she's right. even bob gates, secretary of defense. he agreed with him sometimes, sometimes he didn't. but he did say, and i remember him saying it very well, that he respected him, that the president asked for everybody's point of view. if you didn't give it, he would specifically ask you for it, and then he would take his, everyone's advice into consideration before he made his decisions. i respect hillary. i don't want anything to tarnish the reputation that she has for bringing the women of this

country in a light where they're better than just objects. >> host: okay. all right, barbara. from the daily beast, this is a story that was posted yesterday. it's an exclusive: obama told lawmakers before this interview that hillary clinton did with the atlantic and before his interview with tom friedman, obama told lawmakers in a closed door meeting that this criticism over his syria policy, he told them that it was horseshit. that's on the daily beast.com. mark, virginia, republican caller. good morning to you. >> caller: good morning. i just want to say it sounds to me like a little bit of political posturing. i pulled the article up online and reading through it, and it does, it either seems like she's really trying to hash through it in her mind in which case, you know, i deeply respect it, or it

just seems like she's trying to kind of not take too hard a stance on either one side, but she wants to present herself as something different than what obama is currently. especially with his popularity rating being so low. but each when she criticizes him, she doesn't seem to go so far as to really, as to really slam him. in part of the article, it each says that she -- it even says that she expresses some sympathy as far as how complex the issues are that obama's had to face. but then, of course, there's a but attached to that, and it just seems like a little bit of

political posturing, so i'm not 100 percent sure what to make of this. >> host: okay, all right. mark, i'm going to leave it there because we are all out of time this morning. >> here's what's coming up. next, a congressional hearing looks at telephone scams aimed at seniors, then a discussion on domestic drone usage. and later from our q&a series, a talk with dr. alfredo question known yes, sir hinojosa. >> host: how did you come to the country ill healey, and then how did you become feel? >> guest: it's quite interesting. this cup was built upon -- this country was build upon people who have immigrated to this country, some of them legally, some of them illegally. in my case, i came in with no documentation and no ability to get a job or an education, so when i first came into the united states in the late '80s -- and i crossed the border between mexico and the united states, endedup