found that word-of-mouth is the best thing. so we don't know but we get to kind of make an impression on him and then if they want to come back, we developed a new relationship with them. and so we try to promote literacy of all ages and we really want to get people interested in reading at a young age. with an independent bookstore when people spend money here as opposed to a bigger chain or shopping online or something, the money really strengthens the economy and our paychecks, while we spend here in casper, our process try to shop downtown and

support local businesses and so it changes the economy in that way. so we are really passionate about books and it's not just a job to us and it's not just us wanting a paycheck or something like that. we really want to help the customer and get people and help people find a book that they love, their next favorite book because we are so passionate about books and i think that separates us from a chain retailer and that is what makes independent bookstore is so special. >> this weekend booktv is in casper, wyoming, with the help of our local cable partner. next we sit down with candy moulton who explores the life and career of the army surgeon valentine t. mcgillycuddy.

>> jesse james, billy the kid, those iconic stories and those are the ones that really sell because people recognize those names. 90% of the people, 98% of the people have never even heard his name and they are saying who is the doctor who was crazy horse's dad. but few people know who that was. and it's so sad because that is why i was also attracted to the tory because he really was involved in some interesting events. he was a gentleman who grew up in detroit and became a doctor at a young age. twenty were sold and he became a doctor and he came out into the west because he was a very

healthy he started working with the northern boundary area and so as a cartographer and a historian and a surgeon and he was back in washington dc drawing the map that they had created when he got tapped on the shoulder and said, would you be interested in going out in another expedition and he came in through the black hills of south dakota and in 1874 custer had a military expedition to the black hills which was very unexpected ground. while he was there he found gold and he found matt. so in 1875 they were going in to me how much was there. and that expedition he roamed

all through the hills and he worked with the geologist their very closely and he got a really big understanding he fell in love with the black hills and it was really his favorite place. he met him in 1873 and he didn't say a lot about it. he talked about him wearing a red shirt because custer did wear a red shirt and mcgillicuddy kept a journal and he was partially akin to his cartography skills and he always wrote details. very detailed notes. and he had heard about this and

he had that impression in this includes events that happen in little big one in late june of 1876. he treated some of the men who had obviously not been with custer, but other individuals that were there. and he had come in to the reservation and then in the spring of 1877, they finally came in and surrendered and they had been out all winter and they were struggling and his wife was very ill and so being a surgeon at the camp, one of his goals was to take care of these individuals that were coming in. and so the wife of mcgillicuddy

was also working and she would go out to the indian camps with him. so it was a doctor visit and a friendly visit. he got to know the people. and so mcgillicuddy said we became friends and he knew crazy horse quite well and he was an immediate member by the time he was arrested and brought into camp robinson in september 1877. there are descriptions of him on the day that crazy horse died and how he was there when they brought him in and they stopped in front of the guardhouse and he realized that they are trying to arrest me, he thought he was just coming in for a talk and that is when he was stabbed, maybe by a lakota or maybe by an

army military. there has never been 100%. he talks about it a lot and it was something that he wrote about. but he didn't personally write about it. at that time sometimes he wrote in sometimes fanny wrote it. fanny was writing the journal and she didn't mention anything of bringing this into camp robinson that day and shouldn't say anything about his role in caring for him that day. however, she did mention that he died late in the evening, 10:00 p.m. or 11:00 p.m. at night. and after he died, he went back to his quarters there and the crowd went with him and slept on

the porch of their home. mostly because he probably feared for the safety of mcgillycuddy. it was a very volatile day and night. and so by his presence there, it was like he tried his best to help. so fanny wrote about this with mcgillicuddy coming home late in the evening. but that they slept on the porch that evening to watch over them. so that is all that was written by the two of them, personally. so you write these journals and he write letters and all of these reports but looking at it,

it was just another indian to him. he knew that he was a great leader, he knew all of that, but through the lens of the present, he didn't really realize the story of crazy horse would become in our generation and even earlier generations and he didn't realize that. i don't think he really realize the significance of it. and this happened in 1877 and it was in the 1920s that he started really is an older man, he started going back and rethinking that wanted some of the events that i was involved in happened. and so i wrote everything that i

could find about mcgillycuddy in other books. and there was always this mention of him in connection with crazy horse because he had a real conflict and there were two different missions. he was trying to preserve the culture with the people and the status in their world and he was trying to assimilate the indians and white culture. so it was just a natural conflict that happened. and so when mcgillicuddy became the agent, he was pushing the indians into homes rather than traditional watches and they were building houses for them and the children went away to boarding schools and some to carlisle, pennsylvania, some to

boarding schools on the reservation and he took the children out of their lives, really. they made them where white clothing. but some of the good things that they did, in many ways he empowered the tribe and that he established the first indian police force that i am aware of and he had a captain that was in charge of the policemen and they enforce the laws on the reservation of the reserve. it wasn't what enforcement or military and mcgillycuddy never brought troops onto the ridge bridge while he was there and that was something that, at the time, they had the rate battle between the two men, both trying to do what they felt was right for their side of things.

later they admitted that they hate each other during that period of time and later in 1890, he was no longer at pine ridge and he had been forced out. at that time he had been appointed by the governor to serve with the national guard and he was sent to wounded knee and there was this conflict there and he tried very hard to get into the indian camp because he felt like at that time they trusted him and so by then they were even asking for him in these two men at loggerhead, not that many years before, they said we trust him, we know him and he never brought this on the

reservation and he was trying to negotiate an end i don't know if he ever would have been able to change things but he was not there when the attack happened but he was there immediately after and so he is a friend of the lakota and greatly hated by some. so if you mention the name valentine mcgillycuddy, you can get some violent reaction because they felt that he did so much and try to take away their culture and he did. there is no denying that he did and doing the job he was hired to do by the indian bureau. the military was the first there

and back in 1875 he was 70 years old during the influenza epidemic and he was living in california at the time and he went back into work as a doctor and he went to the aleutian islands and who were suffering from the epidemic. and he tried very hard to get back into the service. especially by then i think he understood more of the indian

mindset. so as much as they have these violent incidents against each other when he was trying to run the tribe, in later years they both seemed to respect each other at least to a certain degree and that wounded knee and right after that, he said you would understand and he said, for his part, that i now understand that i was young and i was aggressive in those days and i was just going to do what i thought was right. but looking back on it i see why they acted as they did and i understand his position and i would have fought just as hard had i been in his shoes. so in later years they came to respect each other but they did come to respect each other. i would like readers to just