voters that i need to win because i want to make a difference is the message. my first boss in the business was called landslide jim because he won by one vote. he never took a vote for granted. he received donations from packs and organizations in the state of virginia. voters need to remember their vote is what puts the person there and that is why voting is so important because in the end that is all it matters. >> host: jim is who? >> caller: jim scott. he is retired. >> host: let's look at how much money has been spent in the house and senate campaign. 1992 cycle courtesy of the

campaign finance institute. we have sandy from nebraska. good morning. >> caller: i don't watch politicians' commercials, i don't have a computer, and i don't recognize the door or the phone if i don't recognize them. thank you. >> caller: you are in my realm because you are the toughest voter to get and your vote is important. when i sit down with a candidate i say the voter that is running away from you, doesn't care about you and wants to live their life and doesn't want you in their life but they know it is their civic duty to vote. we will put a blitz on you. we will try to e-mail you and put ads get a

message to you from my candidate. host: who have are bundlers? guest: they're donors who know other donors. sometimes they go to a -- who is one of their recurring voters. they will say let me introduce you to my friends who would like to donate to you. host: lets go to jules in atlanta, georgia. one more time for jules in atlanta. we're going to have to go on. cathy in new castle, delaware.

caller: i had a quick question. i've been wondering. i'm really disappointed in the elections which i think is part of the problem and i was just wondering if there was a way that we could put in none of the above like in the movie brewster's millions. guest: i love that movie. but that's all the more reason for you to engage at whatever level you are because we can't do that. here's the beauty, a lot of these individuals on capital hill are elected by a primary process. so get involveded in the primary process. show your influence that way. look at eric cantor, he's

feeling the bruises from that hit and that was a primary. host: this viewer said just remember why would laws be passed to disinadvantage themselves? >> guest: well the current law passed and with a young house a lot didn't pass the laws. but it was at the time the way they thought was the fairest way of doing de. we saw with citizens united that things are changing. different people were trying to get through the donation process and trying to get their message out in a different way and that is how super pacs and other o

outside organizations came to be. and each community has an ex penditure that has to be done. all of those things were created because of that law. >> host: our guest at the table is joe lestingi and joanna burgos and jim is joining us from hamillton, virginia. >> caller: i want to touch on something slightly different. when i was growing up i was told to vote in the primaries because you miss half the election if you don't. as a result i changed affilations more than once just so i can vote in the pripares. but things have changed since i was growing up. and now you can vote in a primary even if is the other party and i am curious what your

guest thinks about this. it seems dishonest to me. >> host: we certainly saw that in mississippi. >> guest: he does have to cross over. he has to declare where he is going to vote. but mississippi is an example of where where cochran reached out. in a state like mississippi you have a primary and a run off process and the only disqualification in the run off is you didn't vote in the regular primary. so you look at the fight going there. cochran has it locked up and he is fine. but he engaged voters that were eligible to run in the run off and this is a good example of

when you engage a community you can get them active. democrats in mississippi know they are not likely to win the seat but their voice can be heard. all elections should be open. it is dishonest to say i am a member of that party but that person is going to represent you in the end so your voice should be heard. >> host: this is a tweet from where does your money go and follows up with who ends up with the majority of the money? >> guest: tv stations. joe and i mentioned gross rating points or cost per point. think about it. pol political campains are competing on reserving airtime. so is isn't consultants that keep the money. the majority is tv stations.

there is some advertising space online, there is printers that have to print paper and postage you have to pay for to post, but the majority is tv stations. >> host: the debate season is underway for the midterm elections and next wednesday is the first in north carolina senerate races. we will have the entire process online so you can fall it there. barbara from new york city. >> caller: i would like to know house education and workforce committee representatives have held town hall meetings? they have been on taxpayer vacation for five weeks. and i called my representative's

office and asked when a town hall meeting was going to be and i was told there were no meetings scheduled. but i got an e-mail to come to a $60 ticket fundraising event. i just want to add my support to the idea of people only being able to donate who live in the district and can vote for a representative. i heard joe lestingi say maybe there is only 70,000 people in the district. okay so what? that limits boths to the 70,000 people in the district. senators limited to people living in the state and everybody in the country could donate to the president. >> host: thank you, barbara.

>> guest: at the 70,000 level and imagine if you are running for dogcatcher and have a lower pool. the problem isn't competing against the opponent but i am competing against coca-cola. your time and attention is divided as a voter in numerous ways. when you open up the paper you will see advertisements on every page. it isn't just the opponent you are competing against. it is every other advertising out there. >> host: may in canton, ohio. thanks for waiting. good morning. >> caller: i just wanted to ask both candidates are question. why should i support a either party when i have no say in who the candidate is.

in ohio, casey is running for governor and i heard nothing from fitzgerald. he is running every day about how fitzgerald doesn't have a licen license. and same thing with hilary clinton. you sit there and say hilary clinton is going to run and no body us. i want to know why i am supposed to support them? >> guest: the ohio's governor's race had a lot of candidates on there. this leads to more of the importance of volunteers and engagement. encourage friends to run who you think could make it to the ballot. help someone up in the primary process. that helps you elect who your nominee is.

>> host: what is your thing you would leave the viewers with when it comes to campaigns and fundraising? >> guest: remember you are still part of the process. don't think the big money groups are the only thing the candidate is thinking about. they want to reach you in the mail, e-mail and they will call you and there is a local office you can attend and your $10 and ultimately your vote counts. that small dollar donation and that average voter still means a lot to the candidates. >> host: you get the final word. >> guest: i get to be on the bad side of supporting politicians. in the end this process cost money because we are competing against every other advertising for your attention. know my entire job is to find you and talk to you about what you want to talk about. you have three ways you can

engage. you can obviously donate to local candidates. the ones you support and ideals you believe in. you can volunteer and volunteering is worth its weight in gold sometimes because it is hard to find people who can take off work or work during the day. and third go vote. get engaged that way. primaries matter the way lines are drawn. look at the races in congress and the general elections. >> host: joe lestingi with the chatter group and joanna burgos from on message inc. thanks for being with us. >> looking at live programming we have coming up for you on the c-span networks. a look at progress in implementing the affordable care act in seven southern states.

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preve prevent isis from carrying out any more plans. and the decision on how to handle isis is as much a political one as a military operation. the president will have to look at whether a public show of force before november or behind the scenes approach now would be warranted. it could be used against him as political foes who could call him weak. isis is loosing steam but military pressure is mounting for the president to act in order to stop some of the missions. mike rogers over the weekend had this to say over the weekend: >> i am going to dispute that. we know in the number of,000 --

number of westerns with passports is low. intelligence has a higher number. the fight between al-qaeda that allowed isis to separate was the fact they wanted to conduct western style operations. the leader of al-qaeda said we want you to focus on syria. that is watt started the fight. this notion they were too barbaric is almost laughable given al-qaeda through airplanes and slaughtered 3,000 people on 9/11. they were saying we have people that have passports that could go to the united states and europe without applying for a visa. the only way we would know is by looking at who was riding on the airplanes. they were believing they could be aggressive. the rhetoric is we are still going to conduct a western

attack. and al-qaeda wants to put points on the board and isis said they are and want to be the terrorist organization to attract the money. >> host: all the sunday shows can be heard every sunday. obama pressed to act inside syria. the piece points out the president who ruled out putting boots on the ground iraq or syria remains unsure of getting involved in a situation that could be a quack mire. adam shift, a california democrat, agreeed with the republican candidates saying this is probably the most prominent risk since 9/11 but doubts the president will

authorize boots on the ground. warren from north carolina. go ahead, warren. going to dave next. good morning. were you have phoning from? >> caller: hello. go ahead. i wanted to comment on the statement here. the reason we were talked first about 9/11 -- they just let them come here on a visa and they did stuff. now we are doing stuff in their country and they are just beating the war drum. we should not be in those country. we are doing to them what they say we are doing to them. if you have open doors coming across on a visa they are going to do stuff. they are not an imminent threat. they don't have army or navy.

>> host: and bob says politicians have destroyed every war from korea to vietnam. jeffrey is on the phone. >> caller: i don't think boots on the ground should be there. everybody wants to blame president obama but it started with bush. that is all i have to say. >> host: why did it start with bush? >> caller: if he wouldn't have went all in we would not have this problem. >> host: let's go to sean in virginia. how are you? >> caller: fine, sir. thanks, you guys great. we are going to have to deal with them. if we don't they will spread and go to europe and find the we

weakest targets. >> host: what should the president do? boots on the ground? >> caller: yes, we have to put boots on the ground. the arab league isn't going to stop them and the europeans have too much going on in europe. i served for a long time. i have been over there once. i can honestly say if we don't do it now 10-12 more years of dealing with these people. unfortunately we will have to step up. and thank you for tyaking my call. >> host: the guardian is writing about this. talking about isis being limited and they have reported seized a

dozen new villages in syria providing it with greater strategic depth. nathan is joining us. >> caller: i don't think people understand the isis debate. isis is a sunni organization generally speaking and their goal is to destruction and eradication of the shitte secretary of islam. this isn't like al-qaeda because we are not their primary enemies. the killing of chris foley was ret retrobution. it is tit for tat. maybe isis in five years will look like al-qaeda but for now

they are just interested in killing other muslims and not to be callus but i say let them have it. when we overthrough saddam hussein we took the lit -- over threw -- the lid off of this. >> host: this is the leader from new hampshire. a memorial service held for james foley as his father hugs a family member. the headline is he is free now. there was a final letter released. it said he was being held with 17 hostages and passed the time by talking about movies and played games. he said i regained most of the

weight i lost last year. we are so grateful when anyone is free. we try to encourage and share each other's strength. and in a different part of the message he said grammie, take your medicine, keep dancing and walking and stay strong because i will need your help to reclaim my life. memorial service held yesterday in new hampshire. randy is joining us from whitmore, pennsylvania. >> caller: good morning. i was in iraq ten years ago to the day almost. and that was 2004-2005. every time i left over there we heard so much about black water this and black water that and i am sure in the coming here we will hear more because of hillary running.

my question is it isn't white water it is black water and they are over there. we went through libya and other crap and no body said anything. what is black water still doing in iraq? how come we are still paying them? that is my comment. >> host: above the story on the pressure mounting to act is this headline. militants seize syria airbase. the islamic state captured a major airbase in the northeastern province and gained full control of an entire province for the first time since syria's civil war. setbacks in neighboring iraq because of the airstrikes have succe

succeeded in pushing them back. donald is on the phone from st. augustine, florida. >> caller: i had a comment about the negative feedback we get from congress and senators mccain on whatever the president does. he is aware of the, you know, the intelligence that is coming from those areas probably more than those two senators and what frustrates me is like a few weeks ago when the president was rescuing the people from the mountain and they came out and said you should not reveal your strategy. and now they turned it around this weekend and are demanding he lay out this policy for them. ... . it's just kind of silly how the politics are in this. now is the time as a cup

tremendous we need to stand together and not attack our own president. especially after he's been threatened directly by the enemy. it seems that these guys are acti acting treasonist to me. i just wish we had more solidarity. next is a viewer from texas. good morning. as the president weighs options against isis, what should he do? caller, you're on the air. caller: thank you. thank you for >> caller: thank you. thank you for taking my call. it's been amazing that -- [inaudible]

for those american people so you cannot kill a human being like that. so i'm calling on behalf of of the democrats and republicans will come together to get the president to act against isis. whether ground troops and people need to act. thank you. >> host: thank you from the call from texas. two headlines from the concord monitor in new hampshire. a boston journalist released. this is the headline from "the boston globe" as the militants freed u.s. writer held in syria. here in washington, d.c. mike is on the phone. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i just wonder what people think in the country that if you continue to oprah's people you're going to create your own al-qaeda here -- oppressed people. a special with the politics,

they love the money more than 11 country. it's crazy. they take the money and forget about what's going on in the country. down the president, k. kim, beat him up over just some small things instead of like the other guy said, come together and try to win this thing and that we can go back to beating each other up. thank you for letting me comment. >> host: thank you, mike. kevin has this point -- headline from "the wall street journal," pressure mounts on obama to act against isis. that's our question this morning for final half-hour of the "washington journal." brad from maryland. good morning. >> caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. two other callers, once said that it was bush's fault. we rocketed the sudan, afghanistan and reduced sodom hussein's standing army by 30%.

this is wha when i was still wog there i'm retired army. under clinton, and another caller said this is just a sunni-shia battle. isis kills anybody that doesn't think their way. and they are coming our way. i think that we need to gear up and lend a to syria, lend aid to the kurds, and do everything we can right now without putting boots on the ground. to abolish these guys. let me to you. they are here and they're coming -- they're going to set up cells the same way that al-qaeda did. thanks for taking my call. >> host: thanks for the goal. the new york times also writing about this. the islamic state in iraq in syria cannot be defeated unless

the u.s. or its partners take on the sunni militants in syria. that's a state last week from chairman of joint of the joint chiefs of staff. this is an orgy that has been apocalyptic end of days strategy that would eventually be defeated. that is from general martin dempsey. can they be defeated without addressing that part of the organization? general dempsey saying quote the answer is no. next is willie mae joining us from birmingham, alabama. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i've heard several -- hello? >> host: if you turn the volume down. down. you're getting a lot of feedback. you will rehear -- you hear your response much better. >> caller: thanks. i've heard several -- >> host: are you still with us? go ahead. >> caller: yes. i've heard several comments, positive comments is what we need for this country.

>> host: willie mae, going to have to stop you because you are giving us feedback. turn the bond of a new television ad that would eliminate the aqua because it is a slight delay. headline from the "l.a. times," the earthquake hitting just outside of napa valley in sonoma, california. six-point zero quake rattles bay area. senator jack reed of rhode island a good on cnn's state of the and was asked about isis and the threat the potential has here in the u.s. here's a portion. >> we have to begin with the presumption that they could be such a threat and you have to carefully evaluate what their capabilities are, what their intentions are. i don't think we can simply dismiss them. but to jump from what they've done which is horrific, the murder of mr. foley to the assumption that they are going to be an immediate and within days threat to us here in our homeland. i think you don't jump to that

assumption but you don't dismiss it. you carefully look at what they're doing, what they want to do. and, frankly, it's in our interest with original partners to destroy isis because the threat posed interest in the region as well as the united states. >> host: that from the sunday morning program on cnn state of the union. all shows can be heard on c-span radio. jarret pate is joining us from iowa city. good morning. what option should be on the table for the president? >> caller: my complaint is a class-action lawsuit against the federal government for building islam here in iowa city. we had a single black a crime problem right now. now we have muggings and stuff like that that goes on here in iowa city, and you can no longer watch, walk the streets of iowa city at night. my case number is 076104. it for $50 million to shut down section eight housing and the people who come in here from

chicago destroying the quality of life in iowa city. that's -- my apartment was broken into way back when, and a guy standing in the face and he was a chicago. he's an ex-football player. he weighed twice as much as i did, and half my age. i'm 75 right now. >> host: thank you for your call. this is one of our viewers saying that if isis is so dangerous, why are we funding and arming them in syria? another eight or nine minutes left. our question, what options should be on the table for the president as he meets with since -- defense secretary today and why supposedly of additional military operations against isis. also want to share with you some breaking news in virginia just outside of richmond and fort lee virginia. the ap has confirmed an active

shooter has been reported in the fort lee army base in central virginia. according to fort lee, verify twitter account the base has been put on lockdown. personal have been told and acted shooting -- -- breaking news from a fort lee, virginia. some comments by bobby jindal from a piece that he put on the fox news website and reprinted at "the weekly standard" critical of the president foreign policy operation. he is criticizing the president's response to the beheading of american journalist james foley either caregroup isis. he explains quote the crux of the matter is the u.s. has a president who is disturbingly naïve and holds a dangerous utopian view of the world and the dangers therein. the truth is these people only fail if we cause them to fail. it is not inevitable, rights governor jindal, causing him to fail requires them be defeated,

destroyed and yes, kill. the focus group would get uncomfortable with those words. in world war ii we did not win the future by building. we wanted by destroying. uncomfortable or not, that is the truth. comments of bobby jindal of louisiana, potential 2016 presidential candidate on the question we're focusing on the option for the president against isis. from austin, texas, nancy is on the phone. good morning. >> caller: my question is this. we are finding isis in syria. mccain even took his picture with them, people can google that. then when they cross the border into iraq we decided we needed to attack the. they beheaded christians in syria and we were surprised when across the border to do the same thing and iraq. this makes no sense to me. >> host: what you think the options are for the president? >> caller: i think we need to get out of there. >> host: okay. let's go to new york.

westchester county, good morning. >> caller: good morning. i've been watching the show on isis for a long time, and my personal view is what is happening is these people are butchers, murderers. a civilized nation should not be present even there. we should pull out all our embassies, close our embassies. let him go after each other. that is the only answer because nothing, countries like saudi arabia, qatar and all our hand in glove with them. and nobody is talking about. everybody is talking about how we should do to the isis. .com the regional countries are not at all taking any onus of this problem at all? thank you. >> host: and you stay on the line? this morning jack keane has the pieces were in the wall street journal called an american-led coalition ended the isis. they point out only the u.s. has the clout to convene a summit, overuse can demand real change and only the u.s. can offer reassurances to turn the

political tide in the middle east. how do you respond to that? >> caller: my response to it is the u.s. leaves that the countries in europe on economically so badly off, they're struggling with their economy. how do you expect anything? what is happening in ukraine? what has the european countries done except sanctions? it's not going to work. this is not going to work. if we have to get in there military, we'll have these people in our backyard injuring for mexico and all that. this is a terrible situation. my husband is at the united nations. we've traveled and lived abroad in all these countries. believe you me, these people in the middle east are hard to assess. we have really truly not assessed to the our, who are are in and to our friends. people who recall friends are basically down to it, our enemies. that is what the people have to get together with those countries in the region, not asking our nato allies who are literally not capable of doing

anything at the moment. the reaction to ukraine, that's part of europe. what are they going to do in the middle east? let them fight it out. we should get out of there. we should close our embassies in those countries because it is not effective at all. that's my opinion. >> host: one of the point in this "wall street journal" piece, an american-led coalition can do the isis. u.s. noticeboard with the key. u.s. central command has a list of isis targets in syria and iraq including -- coalition can defeat the full story is a bit of on "the wall street journal" website. we go to earnes earn the next in virginia. democrat's line, good morning. are you with us transform yes, i'm with you. >> host: what options should be on the table for the president transform i think we

need to come out of there. i don't think we need to go into there and do this fight. the people over in the middle east should take care of their own and otherwise, mccain and them are wanting a fight just in order to make money off of weapons that they got investments in in this country. and i think that's wrong because we get our kids killed just because of the big politicians who have shares i in the weapons and things in this country, progress off the people of this country and it's wrong. >> host: earnest, thanks recovered and all of you for your calls and comments on this issue. >> is look at some of our programs coming up. next hearing on weight-loss products with television host dr. oz. then and look at medicare fraud and abuse. >> here's a look at some of our life programs coming up on

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