that is why people want to read books. that is how they learned and think but it has more material. so how do i fledged that? you can see better imprint but honestly the older i got, the more clear by a pitted got about economics and i wanted to share that. so i think when you think back the contract of "the forgotten man" signed 2011 rice started to write a book that was the decade and a half. there were people i did not want to to offend so i went on this trip of learning

that i thought about quite a bit. in with more serious brand and to a 11 site i know there are teachers but if there is anything that you see q could use like other graphic novels, please speak no. >> talk about that roosevelt

depression. >> of 1937. >> when this open and they told themselves for he was 13 years old he hanged himself. it was the trick opening because it goes on and on. he was reluctant to ask for food. this was 1937. i use that in the beginning of the book with the flash back to make the following point the great depression with my economic work is why the depression lasted 10 years instead of five. and the answer is a labor policy, uncertainty and then

people don't hire women they are confronted about uncertainty. and then monetary and credit aspects. so those explanations are detailed and our marquee in the book. >> the area i can add value is that many economists come to be thank you for writing that narrative that that labor policy was not the nine. but it was not fined for employers to where people could get and now for example, from the receiver

chicago mulligan has written about labor policy how that contributed to the major quality of the recovery. but that labor component was never studied by anyone in particular now it comes out in many books and "the forgotten man" is the narrative. and adviser to the fed at ucla and then to have large sections on the depression and how that forces people by pushing unemployment. >> what we had for the urban

schools to they really give you the indication of poverty? >> our showing pages headed various failings that were hard to do. do you know, the proem what is the meaning? of people going down the we have the patience of the stock market crash. a and the boy to hang himself he was hungry. so the poverty in their early thirties gets adequate coverage nobody denies people were hungry or monetary policy was off. thank you. [applause]

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>> party is. wedding receptions anything big happening was that the hitching posts in. built 1825 start with abraham lincoln court to win smith had decided after they had tried to grow potatoes not allow was growing in this part so the ones the homestead deal was over they decided this road witches the lincoln highway that a lot of people at that point were trying to travel he wanted to start a hotel or a campground right here. so he started with 25 rooms where people can get showers that as time went on and

just kept expanding. his son came from russia with his mother nine years after this started in and one year later she died and the sudden drop to the university of wyoming and went to work for bls said his father died. he has to decide if he will take the hotel to make something of it or become an engineer. he decided he would go back to the family business. he gets married name brings his wife back and harry was the businessman, a manager but his wife was the persona of up 80 at the front desk desk, the politicians started to say with desert comments they call that their central holding he wanted them to stay there. they went to all legislators

even those not running to say we want you to stay at our hotel and offer them at that time a friday -- a tiny rate of $5 a night. they cannot turn it down so legislators was stand there then though lobbyist would follow. that is what started it. people who might add contention there was hard to stay mad at someone but when you are at the buyer. >> wide years as a governor who came to the hitching post with two or three. at lunch we held his table from 12 through 12:20 p.m.. sometimes the governor would just show what.

at 1230 if he did not show what we would release that he would come every afternoon and they would be at the corner of the bar and solve problems. we got to know him very well then the legislature ended and there was still issues that needed to be covered. the debate started they talk to the newspaper that the governor would call a special session. i and they said a witness stand that we are completely filled in ask me if you and your questions but the next day got a call from the governor secretary that said the governor would like to speak to you.

he said you mind if i run the state government to decide to relax the special session of the legislature? he would laugh and laugh. tell me when we could come. there was a cartoon the next day is stagecoach part different of the hitching post who runs the state anyway? >> daschle the lot of people came here not only because of the time. tracy was very instrumental in democratic politics. he gave the final vote to be democratic president candidate. a lot of politicians came here in an end not just democrat the ronald reagan, george burns and gracie allen this was the

central place to be. >> the kennedys spent the night, i came in on the train, they did eighth fund-raising party then left the next day after a speech on the back of the train. right before agnew was to arrive they took down like pictures and finished just fed baby fort agnew arrived but late that evening senator simpson arrived and went to his room. i got a call to say we have had a breach. you need to come out. so we went with the master key security to the front door and knocked senate 2:00 a.m. senator simpson came i said you are in the wrong

room and i you got your behalf to review hed review he d know i wil review he said know i will move in the morning. i said i vasari right now. we've moved them to a room. i sense some sid to lobby he said remember that asshole made me move at 2:00 a.m.? my phone rang at 7:00 a.m. and he called to say the hitching post is on fire and it was bad. >> was huge sell lobby the restaurant kitchen and some of the hotel rooms so the fire started at seven in the morning it was not put out fully until 7:00 the next morning and they use 4.5 million gallons of water to put it out of fortunately no one was hurt or lost

their lives but it was a huge fire. >> they tore down been demolished what was left so there is of building behind me nobody stays there but the current orders i am told have a couple of rooms they're renting out it is not a restaurant or pretty place to be at this point but still up and going. >> the importance to tell the history it is part of all of our shared history because the hotel and the smith family played such a huge part it is one thing to tell the story but somehow in our hearts there is bigger than just in the building. >> we had the book signing there were 300 people.

for former employees to play a huge part to have something to hold in their hands so i of very proud to have helped to create that

. . it also shows how terrorist organizations are funded and how they operate much like a modern-day corporation. c-span: peter l. bergen, author

of "holy war, inc.: inside the secret world of osama bin laden," you say on page 31, 'further clouding our understanding of bin laden is the fact that a vast amount has been written about him, a good deal of it rubbish.' >> guest: well, i think you know when rubbish is rubbish, how you call a spade a spade a spade. and, you know, i mean, there have been a lot of reports that bin laden was womanizing and sort of drinking when he was a teen-ager in beirut. it's very hard to disprove to you know, it's it's it's very hard to disprove something that didn't happen, but, you know, as far as i can tell, he was a sort of very religious teen-ager. there were reports that somehow, bin laden was funded or trained by the cia. these are all sorts of commonsense tests, apart from anything else. you know, if you were the cia case officer who ran bin laden, most of those people would be of retirement age now you've got a $20 million book contract right there. i mean, you know, when conspiracies happen and with, you know, iran-contra, these kinds of conspiracies, people talk about them. so the notion that somehow the cia was involved in training or funding bin laden, who has, had a lot of his own money; b, was pathologically antam