want to admit that. that was half the cost of my associate degree with classes that i didn't need for the degree. you can give me degrees and have the time. >> host: all right, dr. linder. >> guest: the color make several good points. first of all of you can get a lot of courses in high school you can shorten your college experience. here in nebraska we operate was called the university of nebraska high school and this provides university level courses to students throughout the state that are basically dual credit so they are satisfying some of their college requirements while they are in high school. the other important point that you make is the issue of transferability. once you have had certain courses and one educational experience you should have systems that allow those forces to transfer to your next degree.

we have such programs here in nebraska between our different campuses, between the community colleges and our state and the university. we actually have a unique program where we are piloting reverse transfer of credit back to trinity college is so someone who did not complete their associates degree in actually used some of their university courses for that purpose. the more dialogue there is between institutions the more efficient it is in the more cost is reduced as you point out. >> host: dr. linder you said earlier $300 million for research at the university of nebraska lincoln. what is the university researching and what are the different areas and what is the main focus? >> guest: obviously there are a variety of areas but being that we are in an agricultural state some of our focuses are on how you properly use water resources and how you grow food

with less water. we face a population crisis in this world. we will have more and more mouths that need to be fed and they need to be fed to ensure political stability in the world. so we have a strong initiative for the food program and the nebraska innovation program focused on food fuel and water and this is just a handful of the programs are faculty are working on it but the key ones given our agricultural roots. >> host: medically at the university of nebraska lincoln you are professor of biology and microbiology there. this is a headline in the "washington post" this morning. u.s. lacks personnel training to fight ebola. the shortage will hamper the military's efforts against the disease. that's a headline in the "washington post" and there's also a recent reuters story this is the third u.s. medical missionary to become infected with the ebola virus was wheeled

into the nebraska center for treatment. why the nebraska university hospital? >> guest: yeah just for clarity we have for campuses and the university of medical center is based in omaha and not the university of nebraska lincoln. we have in recent years worked hard at the medical center omaha to address some of the threats posed by infectious agents in so many years ago when there was the sars outbreak we developed a very comprehensive biocontainment unit to provide care for patients that might be affected by infectious agents. the u.s. state department recognized that capacity at the university of nebraska medical center and asked if we would provide care. now that it's been an important

learning experience for our staff at the medical center and they are currently discussing with government officials, the cdc and others how we can take what we have learned in caring for this patient in her biocontainment unit and provide educational programs for health care providers throughout the country so that they are better prepared to deal with this type of infection. it's a critical issue right now. >> host: dr. lender another issue for many universities is their athletic or graham. roger greene on twitter wants to know how do you feel about college athletes forming a union and being compensated for generating millions for the university's? >> guest: well the university of nebraska lincoln has had very successful athletic programs. i believe we have 23 different sports represented in both women's and men's and over 620 athletes. the athletic department is

entirely self-sufficient from the revenue that it generates. the question about student unionization and how money is spent in athletics is certainly in the headlights. we try to focus on student athletes first being students and as students we would like to see that they are fairly compensated with full scholarships and support of their expenses. we think that some of the dialogue that is happening now to better support the students is very important. but in terms of actually compensating students as if they were employees and immunization, that carries many downsides for the student experience. >> host: jody quotes a strong mission to educate is that why the football coach makes more than the top three in the united states? >> guest: well, i think that

compensation of football coaches is very high and each university exists in the marketplace and fortunately. having a cap on football coaches salaries would be an interesting national discussion. it's not one that i want to participate in. >> host: why not? you sound reluctant. explain that. >> guest: i think that the question about capping any professional salary whether it's a coach, an entertainer, the ceo you know is a more complex discussion than i'm willing to take on this morning. but we do live in a marketplace. if you're trying to attract top-tier coaches at any school you are competing with those coaches for the employment of those coaches with other schools. i think that brings the salaries to the level that they are. >> host: at the university of

nebraska lincoln what is the state of tenured professor's? how many do you have and how does the process were? >> guest: at the university of nebraska lincoln so-called tenure density is around 60% and the process at the university of nebraska lincoln is a tenure-track. after several years of service in a portfolio that would be assessed to determine whether faculty will be tenured or not. there are different systems used throughout the country and at her medical center for example in omaha our faculty and what is called the health profession and sometime during their career they could be three years or 10 years they may opt for consideration for tenure. but it isn't the classic up or out out situation you see in some tenured programs.

>> host: ' calls, william is watching us in brian texas. go ahead william. >> caller: yes, i would like to ask mr. lender how the philosophy was established in the early 100 years ago has changed. it was originally organized to support the agricultural area of an agrarian society. how has that changed and is the change in the right direction? >> guest: well the university of nebraska was established in 1869 as a land grant institution. i think by all measures we still function as a land grant institution to provide substantial support for the agriculture efforts in nebraska. we have the institute for ag and natural resources that has many

faculty that are working to develop better agricultural techniques are out the state and throughout the world. this is part of the food fuel and water initiative i mentioned earlier. the scope of the land grant institution has certainly increased. in 1902 the medical center joined the system. so the activities have grown as society needs have increased but we still focus on agriculture as one of the core missions of the university of nebraska lincoln and actually our agricultural programs showed the second-highest increase in enrollment this year. >> host: we are talking with dr. james linder interim person at the university of nebraska lincoln. part of c-span's russ is big 10 college tour. we kicked that off this week a month-long series of interviews on "washington journal" with word -- university presents. on friday the bus will be at the university of iowa and we will

talk with the present they are sally mason on friday. this morning though dr. james lender up for the c-span bus in lincoln nebraska. charleston south sioux city nebraska. charles go ahead with your question or comment. >> caller: good morning. i have two grandsons going to your university in the ag department and i was just wondering why is it so difficult to find scholarship or any kind of money to go to school if you don't do the right research you end up getting none. >> guest: well at the university of nebraska lincoln there are a wide variety of need-based scholarships and in fact at unlv thousand students attend the university with no tuition charge. there are also other academic

related scholarships depending on what field the student is then. very few student scholarships are actually focused on the potential research that a student might be interested in doing unless of course they are a graduate student and we have extensive support for graduate students who are pursuing master's degrees or ph.d. degrees. >> host: dr. lender dd wants to know schools get more money for out-of-state students. the students get preference is? >> guest: in my experience out of state students do not get preferences. we enjoy bringing students to nebraska to diversify our student body and to hopefully create a student who will stay as a student at a nebraska-based company. we would appreciate if those

costs would be lower but that wouldn't be fair to the citizens of nebraska who are paying taxes to support the in-state students. but we do try and look at students from outside of nebraska to diversify our student body. this current year is probably the most diverse student body we have relative to ethnic minorities in the university. >> host: how many slots are there for foreign students? >> guest: in terms of slots we really don't think that way. we evaluate students based on their academic activities and each campus at the university has a different number of foreign students. there are several thousand that are studying here they come from countries around the world. we have exchange programs with brazil, china, with eastern europe and it's fascinating to

walk across the campus and see students from nebraska interacting with a student that may come from brazil, teaching them about our culture and learning about the culture from another country. >> host: do they pay the full price of college tuition in? >> guest: yes, they do. they pay a nonresident rate. >> host: bill in florida, good morning to you. you are up next. go ahead. >> caller: good morning greta. with monsanto on what they are doing with the schools with their new techniques and all that and -- >> guest: the university of nebraska lincoln has had a research relationship with a variety of companies that are seeking to improve crop yields

and develop crops that are resistant to pests. that includes monsanto corporation. >> host: on twitter here is a tweet from one of our viewers asking president lender with respect college sports have become big, no, huge business. why should it not be treated as such and why should it not be treated as such? >> guest: i think the question is the use of revenue that comes from college sports if i understand it correctly and at the university of nebraska that's largely to support the athletic programs. but there's also some strong benefits to the academic mission of the university. for example on the east stadium of the football stadium we have

two important research activities. one is the nebraska athletic performance laboratory which looks at motions that athletes might haven't tried to optimize their performance. also ties into research studies done on gait disturbances in people with neurological problems as well. the center for brain behavior is studying concussions that occur in sports and looking at developmental abner all of the these. so it's not just a business. it's an integrated into the academic experience and for the student athletes and again i emphasize students, they get valuable experiences. i had the pleasure of teaching some of the former university of nebraska football players and these are individuals who have learned time management and learned how important it is to

get tasks done and they are varied monday. >> host: the columbus dispatch reporting in june that big 10 presidents and chancellors have proposed for major reforms or athletics guaranteeing for your scholarship regardless of whether an athlete is able to compete on a playing field, and maintain a scholarship for a player even if he leaves college early to pursue a professional career, provide improved consistent medical insurance for players and ensure that athletics scholarships cover the full cost of attendance is defined by the federal government. dr. linder why do you think these reforms are needed and do you think they are needed? >> guest: i do think these reforms are needed and they reflect the student and athlete and address some of the concerns that have led to the current discussion of how students are treated when they are athletes. i think they are very fair to

the student to ensure their chances of their success. the vast majority of student athletes are not going to compete at a professional level. to make sure that the financial security while they are in school to complete their degree program. >> host: in a few minutes left to discuss higher education issues with dr. linder. he is aboard the c-span bus as a part of c-span's big town college tour. americans are saving more for college. the college college savings plans network found the average college savings or prepay tuition account known as the 529 plan is now worth $20,671 almost double what these accounts were worth during the dog days of a recession. william in st. paul minnesota, william go ahead. >> i want to touch on the

question and it's kind of a two-part question concerning american citizenship versus financial aid. the reason i'm asking this, we make about 90,000 gather. my daughter didn't qualify for any pell grants or scholarships and i'm just wondering is american citizenship -- on that pell grant? [inaudible] >> host: william we will leave it there. dr. linder. >> guest: i think the question was are you required to be an american citizen to receive a pell grant and that's a question if they came across my desk i would learn what the rules are.

i can't give you an accurate answer right now. >> host: dr. linder how much support money does the university of nebraska get from the federal government? >> guest: well you would have to look at the different categories of support that the university of nebraska gets from the federal government. there is a large recent enterprise that receives grants from the national institutes of health and the national science foundation and systemwide batters that is over $400 million. those monies come into the university of nebraska and they're spent on research that benefits the faculty and the students who are involved in that research. then there there are financial aid dollars that come into the university. counted as part of our budget but those are distributed directly to the students including the loans and pell grants.

that is part of the aggregate budget of $1.2 million you mentioned earlier. it's money flowing through the university system. >> host: jim in midland texas, a parent. good morning to you jim. >> caller: good morning could. i have a question for dr. linder. i have been to nebraska. i love the state. i worked in omaha and it's a beautiful city. i felt that dr. linder dodged the question earlier and i would like to hear more about why fewer getting a engineering degree you have to take history which adds a lot of cost to your degree. thanks. >> guest: the question comes if you are pursuing an engineering degree should you learn anything other than engineering? should you take a history course and should you take a history course? i think education and the humanities including history are

essential for all citizens to have. there was an extended political discussion that occurred before i came on the air. if our citizens don't have an understanding of world history how can they properly vote in elections and understand the issues that face our community's? i think it has to be has to be balanced between a degree program and things around you out as a human being but i do think those programs are essential. they shouldn't be duplicated which was i think one of the concerns of the other caller -- he had already had exposure to history and was asked to take it a different university. which is why the transfer of credits is important. >> host: dr. linder another yout issue is campus safety. vice president joe biden did an interview with nbc yesterday talking about domestic violence, the ray rice video of the nfl and he had this to say. the next challenge is making sure ironically call its

presidents and colleges understand they have a responsibility for the safety of women on their campus. they have a responsibility to do what we know from experience. provide people and give young women to support they need psychological and medical support and if need be the legal support. society is to changes taking place but i believe is taking root and we have enough addition to just keep pushing it. dr. linder do you agree and what does the university of nebraska do on this issue of college safety? >> guest: i agree with vice president biden and clearly this is an issue that is front front-page on the news right now. we have had the good fortune of having a safe environmental university of nebraska lincoln. as the attention to this issue has grown we have doubled down on our efforts to make sure that students are aware of their

responsibility to treat each other in a respectful manner, to avoid situations such as may occur with binge drinking that could lead to unfortunate behavior. we want to make sure their counselors available for our students so that this is handled in a proper manner including law enforcement when necessary. a lot of the bad behavior on campuses has been targeted toward athletes who have been maybe caught a break at the university of nebraska. is there any allegations against athletes such as have occurred on other campuses is not handled by the athletic department. it's either handled by the separate part of the university or local law enforcement. we take this very seriously. our region's past new policies in may both for student and employee conduct. we will do our best to make sure it's a safe campus.

the new web site for the university of nebraska lincoln that just became live in the last couple of weeks has a link on there called tips. it provides any student, parent or citizen the opportunity to report what they believe to be an unsafe situation that we can address. >> host: a couple of other treats for you this one from our viewer who wants no across the nation there's a movement to privatize parts of state colleges. aren't you want to privatize that bandwagon and then james says that the for-profit businesses affected you in any way? >> guest: these are two tweets that address a very important issue in america and education. if you look at the current number which is a trillion dollars in student loan debt, 13% of those students who have been at for-profit colleges account for a third of that de

debt. this is driving a lot of the crisis of higher education. so i think privatization and for-profit activities have to be carefully scrutinized and watched to make sure they are fulfilling the core mission of education which is to benefit the students, not the shareholders of the company. >> host: mike from rockford illinois, a parent. go ahead mike. >> caller: thank you. my question is students that are accepted compared to nebraska students that aren't accepted the local students that are not accepted might be foreign students and we know what the new laws we have for employment the first chance of jobs for lesser pay.

[inaudible] >> host: okay mike. dr. linder? >> guest: any qualified student who is from nebraska is guaranteed acceptance into the university of nebraska. in no situation but qualified student be denied a seat in one of our classrooms because we had a relationship to bring international students who are program. we are very aware of our world to educate first and foremost our citizens. we believe the international students that come here and most of them do go back to their home country simply add to the cultural experience we have on campus. >> host: dr. linder if there's one thing you could change about higher education what would it be? >> guest: wow. that's kind of like if you get a wish what could it be? i thank the awareness of both

the students as they pursue entry into college, of the citizens in the united states about the role lives and the college experience and then the interaction between the employers and the students as they come out. so awareness is my answer and it's a broad answer but i firmly believe that if you achieve understanding of a problematic situation you can really get to the optimal situation that you want to be in. i think there is a lot of misunderstanding and ms. awareness that currently is surrounding many of the discussions in higher education. >> host: dr. linder's interim president at the university of nebraska lincoln. part of c-span buses big-time college to her.

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>> british prime minister david cameron deputy minister nick clegg and the leader of the opposition at miliband skipped this week's session at prime minister's questions so they could be in scotland ahead of next week's independence referendum. sitting in for them or foreign secretary william hague and deputy labour party leader harriet harman. scottish independence was the main topic of the session. this is 35 minutes. >> order. >> questions to the prime minister. >> mr. sharon hudson. >> mr. speaker i've been asked to reply to my right honorable friend the prime minister who is with the deputy prime minister and the leader of the opposition in scotland today to listen and talk to voters about the huge choice they face and their message to the scottish people

is simple tree from the people of england wales and northern ireland, we want you to stay in the united kingdom. mr. speaker i join the prime prime minister and the tribute he paid on monday to to jim dot and it died over the weekend. he was a proud scot and a hard-working parliamentarian who was respected on both sides of this house. he will be sadly missed and i know the thoughts of the whole house are with his family and friends. mr. speaker this morning had meetings with minister -- ministerial colleagues in addition to my duties in this house i will have further such meetings later today. >> thank you mr. speaker. can i join in paying tribute to our good friend jim dobbin. he was a kind and very decent man and he will be sorely missed. indeed our thoughts and prayers are with his wife pat and their family. mr. speaker 30 taxes

discriminatory. it's damaging and it's not working. on friday this house was very clear. will the government now listen and scrap this wretched policy because if they won't, we will. >> mr. speaker this is a basic issue of fairness here because as you live in private rented accommodation receiving benefits these rules apply. we have a situation which neighboring households could be treated unequally. she asked about the private members bill. the proposals in the bill could cost the country up to a billion pounds. because we introduced a cap on overall spending making those changes would mean finding savings elsewhere. i haven't heard any suggestions from the party opposite. >> thank you mr. speaker. a summing -- assuming a no vote in the scottish referendum and

the government will represent england for the new devolution settlement? who speaks for frankly because we need a voice and a new deal. >> there are many of us who have been represented to yorkshire for several years can claim to speak for england from time to time. the option is to speak for a far bigger than they represent themselves. of course all of the debates are to be had once the referendum is concluded. >> harriet harman. >> and i think they're right honorable member for the words he sent about our good friend and colleague jim dobbin and have my tribute on his sudden and tragic death over the weekend. he was has been said a thoroughly decent man who stuck to his principles and at a time when it's fashionable to say politicians are in it for themselves and are out of touch. he was the absolute opposite of

that. our deepest sympathies are with pat and their children and we will miss him greatly. mr. speaker historic is a much overused word in politics. does he agree with me that in just eight days time the people of scotland will make a truly historic decision? this is their vote but i want the message from the side of the house to be heard loud and cle clear, we want scotland to stay. >> i do agree with the right honorable lady and that is a very clear message from her side of the house and our different political perspectives from the side of the house as well. i hope i have brought a message that the people of scotland will here. scotland is made an immense contribution for generations. we want to stay together and indeed cannot imagine life in these isles without them. she is a london mp and speaks familiar to what she has just said. i am a yorkshire secretary of

state for wales and we are all proud to be british. there is no doubt we would all be diminished if scotland were separated from the people of the rest of the u.k.. harman. >> the roots of our party or keep in scotland. do we deliver devolution in the scottish parliament but we need to go further. will he confirm that there will be further devolution and a bill setting out new powers to be published in january? >> is the right honorable lady knows the three main party leaders have come together to agree to develop a program for change. they're right honorable member has setup a process for how that change could be delivered to a timetable. all three main parties have endorsed that timetable. and it means immediate action the day after the referendum to

start the lives of its -- legislative process including proposals at the end of october with a full draft scotland bill published by the end of january. and the introduction of a bill after the general election regardless of who forms the government. that is a clear timetable and it shows the scots can have change without the irreversible separation and without such risks to jobs into their future. harman. >> for the clarity that concept as we set about devolving further policy to to scotland as he agree that the time is also come to the fall further power to wales and crucially to the great cities and regions of england too? >> the decision next week of course as we all know is the matter of the people of scotland but the implications will be felt by all the people of united kingdom. we are already steadily evolving increased power to parts of

england as well as have been doing so in wales. under this government wales have received more primary making powers and tax and borrowing powers for the first time. we want to see devolution in england. city deals have given local areas more of a say over their governance. the great strength of the united kingdom is that it is not a rigid union. it is a living flexible union and that is part of its greatest strengths of all. >> harriet harman. >> for us on the side of the house that fundamental principle of our politics is solidarity. we want the u.k. to stick together in the course of social justice. does he agree with me that it's wrong to set the different countries of the u.k. against each other whether it's on workers rights foreign corporation tax?

>> the right honorable lady makes a powerful point about solidarity in the u.k. and were 300 years we and our predecessors had sat in the south was scottish parliamentarians and their predecessors and they have sat together from 18th century to implement a great range of progressive causes from the abolition of the slave trade to a pursuit of human rights and development across the world today. we have often led the way in times of world crises and been an inspiration to democratic people's elsewhere. the next 300 years could easily be as turbulent as the last 300 years so to tear apart the union so proven, so precious and so valuable would be a tragic mistake for all of our peoples. >> harriet harman. >> people in scotland cannot be certain that what they no vote there would would be changed more powers for scotland. does he agree with me that posed

against that certainty is the uncertainty that a yes vote would bring on so many issues like jobs, pensions, mortgages and the currency? >> the uncertainty is impossible to list in the answer to one question but a letter signed last week by more than 120 job creators from across a whole range of scottish business has concluded that the business case would not be made and they said uncertainty surrounds a number of vital issues including currency, regulation, tax, pensions, e.u. membership and support for our exports around the world and they said uncertainty is bad for business. the government of the bank of england said yesterday that sovereignty in the currency of the union are incompatible and he is right. many of us have pointed that out for many years in relation to another currency. and be certain of this. be certain of this. this is not an opinion poll where you can change your mind

the next day. it is not an election where you can reverse the results in four or five years later. it is a permanent decision that will affect generations and therefore the votes cast next thursday will probably be the most important vote that can be cast in any country at any time. the voters there for most way vote heavily. >> whilst jobs pensions and taxes are important next week's decision as he likely says is about much much more than that. for sure there must be change. we must have that and we will but not by tearing this country apart. we must stay as family, not become foreigners to each other. >> the right honorable lady puts it extremely well. we all want the best for scotland just as we all want the best for our constituents in all parts of the u.k. in the south

and the people of england wales and northern ireland believe scotland is better off in the u.k. and the u.k. is better with scotland in it. this referendum is the most important choice that people of scotland will ever make a choice between the opportunity and security of staying in the u.k. or of leaving forever without the uk's influence in the world with scotland as part of the u.k.. we have the best possible situation and a great future together in the united kingdom. >> mr. christopher chubb. >> mr. speaker since 2012 my right honorable friend and i have been supporting the policy of the government not to offer tivo macs as a consolation prize in the event of a no vote in a scottish referendum. if this is no longer the policy of the government when and why did it change and what opportunity has there have been for this house to express its view? >> it has been the policy of the

government for some time to be open to further devolution. i gave examples of what we have done in wales during the lifetime of this government. the statements by the party leaders you may have noticed the last few days are statements by party leaders in a campaign. not a statement of government policy today but a statement of commitment from the three main political parties akin to statements by leaders in a general election campaign although they intend to do afterwards. it's on that basis they have made those statements. >> mel turner. >> in 201212 the chancellor set himself a target to deliver exports of over a chilean by 2020. i wonder whether he would confirm his government is on course to miss the target by $330 billion? >> of course nobody can claim to know what the figure will be in

2020 since we are only in 2014 at the moment. a great deal of work, a great deal of work has to be done but we have greatly intensified the promotion of british exports and that is why in my time as foreign secretary open 20 new embassies and consulates including many that the party opposite close when they were in power. that is why we have revamped and we have huge increases in exports to countries like china and india and brazil and everybody of all partisan businesses must join in making that excess -- success by 2020. >> mr. speaker my right honorable friend the deputy prime minister and leader of the opposition are rightly campaigning today for the futu future. on a daily basis with my constituency i see the strong

family and business between my local airports and scottish airports. does my right honorable friend agree with me that the kingdom is better together as united and i say that as somebody with proud scottish ancestry. >> yes, i absolutely agree my honorable friend and gatwick airport and what we experience around other parts of england and wales is a very good example of his point. in fact two-thirds of scottish exports are exported to the rest of the united kingdom. twice as much as to the rest of the world put together. why would anyone choose to place an international border where those exports are going and do so unnecessarily? my honorable friend makes a very powerful point.

>> mr. speaker the leader of the houses right. it's up to the scots to make undoubtably the most momentous disgust -- decision we have ever had. the process is galvanized and energized in every community in scotland. i know we want different things from this outcome but will he help me and congratulate -- for the way he has conducted this incredible meeting. >> well i'm happy. it was a gentle understatement that we have different feelings from this process but of course we applaud the people scotland for taking such an immense interest on all sides and of course it's very important that there is a high turnout in any such referendum.

i absolutely congratulate the people of scotland. i don't congratulate those in his own party who has failed to be straight with the people of scotland. who have never explained what mode of scotland will use and what its value will be, and was never explained how long it will take to rejoin the european union and who have never explained how they would fund schools and hospitals when there are would be a 6 billion pounds black hole finances who haven't explained their threat not to pay debts would be disastrous for scotland's long-term future. they are passionate about separation but they are not passionate about telling the truth to the people of scotland. >> sir bob russell. >> embracing priests centuries

cold tester has welcomed thousands of scottish soldiers. many with their families. we wish that to continue. does the leader of the house agreed that the select committee that scotland ceases to be part of the u.k. and we have the best armed forces in europe this would pose serious security and defense risks for separate scotland without the capacity to defend itself. >> my honorable friend makes an extremely important point. the participation of the work and the sacrifices of members of the armed forces in scotland that are employed in cold tester and i see that my own constituency. he makes an important point about the security of all of those and of course this is important for scotland as well, for scotland's security and we have to bear in mind that for instance her majesty's naval base is the largest employment site in the whole of scotland.

and it's going to get better bigger with the deployment of all of our -- they are. these things are at risk by campaigning for separation as well as a risk and security to all of us. >> lesser say this. >> lesser say a tentative pop click meeting in my constituency where the doctors in practice were consulting their patients about how they were going to deal with 22 to 24% cut by the year 2018. this cut of 22 to 24% has been officially notified to them. will the house confirm that these are the cuts of my constituents can expect? >> i can confirm this government has raised in line with inflation which his party was not willing to do. i know the secretary of state of

health will want to discuss with him the details of the situation but i hope he would explain to them that overall since the last election the number of nurses is up 3700, the number of doctors is up 6500 come the number of people who say -- they are treated with dignity is up 10% and we have been ranked the top health system in the world according to the commonwealth moving to seventh in the world four years ago. >> caroline spelman. >> would my right honorable friend of vaud the initiative of prince harry in creating the victor scale on our behalf? >> absolutely. this is an extremely important continuation of the developing proud sporting history we have in this country. we are now established as one of

the great sporting nations of the world and we are also a country that thinks deeply about the welfare of service veterans and his royal highness prince harry are one of the great champions of this and we wish him and everyone involved in that game is very well. >> mr. garrett thomas. the prime minister said he wanted to see economic growth and rising living standards for all. can the leader of the house explain why britain received one of the largest fall in wages in the country beaten only by cyprus and portugal and anchorage. >> you might remember remember there was a deep recession that came about under the previous government. of course that has to be paid for but after four years now of discipline policies of my right honorable friend the chancellor of the exchequer we now have the

fastest growth of the g7 economies. we have employment at a record high. we have nearly 2 million new apprenticeships started in his time. this is a remarkable economic turnaround from a catastrophic situation we were in. >> garrett johnson. >> thank you mr. speaker. as the leader of the house agree with me that scottish independence is all about getting -- it's not about embarrassing the prime minister or the leader of the opposition. it is about scotland turning its back on 300 years of successful union and rejecting so much that this country has done to make us so proud of being part of great britain. >> i right honorable friend is right. it's not about any individual or party or election. it is a far longer-term decision than that.

i must say in my experience all over the world other nations regard the u.k. with admiration and sometimes even envy. if scotland voted yes over the world people that share our values and count on our contributions at least stability and human rights would be disappointing and while those that don't share those priorities would be quietly satisfied. that's another thing we all have to bear in mind. >> at the end of last month my constituent disappeared in qatar. he had been arrested by the secret service because he was investigating the human rights abuses of workers who were working to build the infrastructure for the 22 world cup. i think the foreign office for their help in securing his release but what action we take

to speak to the ambassador in qatar about the disgrace of arresting him in the first place in the treatment of those who are preparing those facilities? >> the honorable member raises an important case and he's right to say that the foreign office has pursued its g7 success in doing so as we will will do in any parallel cases in the future. i know that the embassy in front of us will want to follow-up follow up on these matters and that is my successor the foreign secretary to determine. i will draw his attention to the question asked by the honorable member and ask him to write. >> mr. speaker with mounting evidence of an innovative vibrant and growing real economy especially in manufacturing and engineering does the first secretary of state agree with me scotland should remain with us first to share in the fruits of our success in second a bigger footprint in the global trade?

>> yes, i do. this is another very good point in the economic turnaround that has now been brought about in the u.k. needs employment in scotland is now at a record hi high. there have been seven consecutive quarters of economic growth in scotland and there are quarter million more private-sector jobs in scotland than there were four years ago. that is a reminder of the potential if we continue to work together and that is the message that i again repeat to the people of scotland today. >> thank you mr. speaker. i welcome suggestions that the prime minister will -- will he tell us what bold new initiatives the prime minister will be taken with him because that is what my constituents say they want. they want to protect what they love. >> order. can i just saved for future

reference it is disorderly to display images in that way and i say with all courtesy to the honorable lady whose principle commitment i respect, that if everybody did that on every cause that would make a mockery of this place. i asked the honorable lady, as the honorable lady to take the view much wider than her own immediate preoccupation. >> thank you mr. speaker. the answer is the prime minister will attend the u.n. general assembly and later in september. we haven't yet issued or finally decided his precise schedule but looking at the attendance of the meeting of the honorable lady refers to. britain will continue to play a leading role in the world in bringing about legally binding agreements on climate change. the next 15 months is a very important. matt misleading up to the meeting in paris at the end of

next year. we are one of the most active countries in the world and climate change diplomacy and the prime minister and the ministers of new york will be conveying this to whoever attends the meeting. >> pete simpson. >> will my honorable friend explained to the house white is with the possibility there could be a yes vote finance is leaving scotland, many businesses are thinking of stopping and surely if the economic event were so good they were averse would be happening. the anxiety of business are very clear and well we can understand people doubting the word of politicians about economic events, it's very important to listen to what businesses say they will do with their jobs and their headquarters with their investments.

because a country that separates itself from the fastest growing economy of the g7 have put itself outside the european union without thinking about the implications of doing not and ended up with no central bank and insurer what currency was going to use would have course find it difficult to attract new business to its shores. >> thank you mr. speaker. the investment partnership leaves the health health service for both to some of the worst possible outcomes of this government's privatization. private investors will be able to devolved administrations through to the investor state dispute settlement tribunal and in that respect how can the leader of the house guarantee that the health service including the health services in the administrations will be exempt?

>> my right honorable friend the secretary of state has held a briefing about such matters. i have no doubt we can furnish her with more details on these issues. but it is very important to maintain a commitment to free trade that has been a characteristic of the united kingdom over many centuries. and which has invariably brought greater prosperity to the people of the u.k. as well as to people all over the rest of the world. the trans-atlantic trade investment partnership partnership is a major opportunity to boost free trade across the world. .. they are. i regularly consult with one

welch citizen and on the evidence of that they are very much hoping and praying that the u.k. will not be broken up as my xbon. friendspeaks very well for >> how does the secretary of state explain to the house why then his party called support labor proposals to guarantee an appointment within 48 hours? [inaudible conversations] >> well, have said going back to that sort of target would be a

counter-productive thing to do. and the number of people treated has increased by many millions over the last four years. that is a trend that is continuing. we will always see further improvements and reintroducing the old field targets is not the way forward. >> when i travel abroad in the past where i come from i am proud to say a british. agree with me if you can be proud of the british distiller at your own identity of the english, scottish, wells, or for northern ireland and remain together and continue as. >> definitely its own identity. he has expressed that beautifully so many of those

things. possible. >> can i support a visit to and our position tonight speaking directly in, my right hon. friend and myself, a vast majority. what the united kingdom the state began some of those today may be disappointed. >> that is certainly my hope. it means in this time the members to mainland of wales, and northern ireland. >> richard fuller. >> mr. speaker, my parents will

sense celebrate their 16th wedding anniversary. my mother was born in aberdeen. in my father in cambridge. coming to their anniversary event. in their habit and then there are that in their union as an the other union pair happy together and butter together. [inaudible conversations] >> well, congratulations to her majesty's government. [laughter] indeed the house of commons. all the political parcells, even the national. on this occasion. an example. i hope that example will continue to be heated and

respected. >> contrary to the previous question this campaign has been fought by fear and intimidation. it. >> the majority but will find a from today's debate reportedly

been said that he welcomes the publication of the report. when we can expect a report to be published. [inaudible conversations] >> well, i can tell and that this continues. the report as soon as possible. and how will only offer that had that an inquiry, when i and others first call then voted back in 2006 it would have by now reported long ago. and so it is reporting lead. we look forward to. >> is it acceptable for young people to have peace at last time because the government has failed the introduction of a free it trashes kneele?

>> well, i think to put that into perspective, 98 and half percent of schools are now surviving a hot meal as intended that's going up all the time. to help those schools to need new facilities to do so. and so i think it would be right to welcome the entirety. rather than trying to find once more. >> order. >> tomorrow morning a ceremony marking the anniversary of the september 11 terrorist attacks at the world trade center national memorial. families call read the names of the nearly 3,000 people who died in the attacks. live coverage beginning 8:30 a.m. eastern. >> hi. we are excited to announce that the 11th annual student camera

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for more information on this year's contest. >> three candid it's running in south dakota senate race participated in an hour-long talk. democrat requirement and gordon palin and larry pressler are trying to win the seat of retiring senator tim johnson. the republican in the race declined to participate in the debate. polling gives governor brown and 11-point lead. this is courtesy of k as this white tv in sioux falls, s.d. >> and good evening from sioux falls.evening from sioux falls. we welcome you to the first we welcome you tonight. broadcast tonight. simulcast on c-span. we welcome both audiences. his racerace. this is being closely watched here and nationally as well.

democrats and republicans are in a battle for control of the senate. rick weiland is here for the democrats. larry pressler for the independent. a and gordon howie. mr. rounds is not here tonight even though he was offered the same in vitation. each candidate is going to be given one minute for an opening statement. the candidate asked the question gets 90 seconds to respond and the other candidate get one minute for rebuttal as well as the original candidate and finally each candidate get a one minute closing speech. the first opening comes from gordon howie.

>> it is great to be here. thank you for doing the favor to the south dakota voting public hosting this debate. south dakota has a real choice and that is who do you want to represent you in the state senate. there are several philosophy running in this race. they would like you to think a vote for gordon howie will cause you to lose the senate. but it is said all across the country the republicans could win 6-11 seats. here is had choice we have to make. what kind of republican do you want to send to the united states senate? a big government tax and spender or someone with a proven record of fiscal responsibility and

that would be gordon howie. i would like you to encourage you as you listen to the debate tonight to take a serious look at the candidates and evaluate who is the conservative in this case and i think you will reach the same conclusion i have. >> thank you, gordon howie have that opening statement. and now to rick weiland. >> thank you for hosting this debate. i want you to know for the last 16 months i have been traveling over the state and been to over 500 communities and keep going back. i have had 200 public type meetings where i show up, listen and i learn. and part of the process is to show up. and unfortunately one of our candidates running for the united states senate isn't here tonight and i think that is bad form. what i have learned in talking with the people of the state is they do expect someone to show

up who wants their vote and they want someone to show up on the floor of the united states who is going to be on their side and not on the side of the big money campaign donors. that is the real heart of the campaign is who is going to be there showing up and fighting were the voters in south dakota for the people that expect a fair deal moving forward. that is what we expect and that is what the voters need to expect in the process. i hope mike will show up for the future debates and forums we will have. it is a critical election. a lot is at stake in the country and people have a right to know where their candidates who want to represent and serve them where they stand on the issues and what their vision for south dakota is and their country. you need to show up to get

elected. >> larry pressler, your opening statement. >> i am larry pressler, independent candidate for the united states senate. i run as an independent to be a powerful voice in the united states senate. there are two independents now and there is going to be a third from kansas and i would be the fourth. this would break the deadlock between republicans and democrats. i am pledged to run one six year term so i would not have to raise money during the term and serve the people of south dakota full time. we need to raise minimum wage, help the teacher's wages. the middle class is suffering and i want to work on the economy. i have had three terms of experience and i can bring that to south dakota and be a powerful voice. there are a number of other issues for the indians across

the state. our people have economic problems. our middle class is struggling and we need to help people's wages get higher so they can have more purchasing power to help small business. also on the federal level we must work on the deficit and i will be talking more about that later. as a vietnam veteran i feel we need to reduce our foreign obsolete base spending. i want to balance the budget but i want to a strong national defense and we can do that by modernizing our military. >> the first question is from olsen from our facebook page. he is asking what is your position on the keystone xl pipeline versus south dakota's quality of life standards.

he is worried about balancing the economic impact versus environmental impact that might come with the project. gordon howie we begin with you. is keystone xl pipeline a good idea? >> we need to take charge of our energy policy in america and we have been steam rolled by a president and administration and frankly a congress that has been complacent in hamstringing energy development. i am in favor of the pipeline. i think what it would do to take the pressure off of rail system to allow for more shipment of grain, fertilizer and other things for the number one industry in south dakota and that is agriculture. beyond the pipeline the more pressing issue is what are we going to do as we move forward with regard to energy policy.

are we going to allow a president who behaves more like an emperor than a president to tell us why going to shutdown coal fired electrical product n production? or are we going to have a comprehensive program that is environmentally safe and at the same time stimulateing the economy. >> larry pressler, 60 seconds on the keystone xl pipeline. >> i would walk into president's obama's office if elected and say we need to have small pipelines to move the north dakota oil so our grain shippers can get the grain shipped. but i am opposed to the way governor rounds set-up the keystone xl pipeline for south dakota. the oil just passes through our

state and it will endanger one of the clean water areas. the grain needs to be shipped by smaller pipelines and move the north dakota oil across minnesota to the refineries but this pipeline doesn't do it. i want relief so the big train engines will haul grain rather than oil. we had the railroad worked out for the grain shippers and there are a lot of practical programs related to the pipeline. i will talk to obama and i am not ashamed to say i am not a friend of obama and don't support him all of time but i am the only candidate who can walk in and get something done. >> rick weiland, 60 seconds.

>> listen carefully. this isn't a job programs as it has been built by oil. this is 35 most and no guarantee they will be in south dakota. this is a pipeline running through the state over the aquafer and no energy security. no jobs and no energy security. let's talk about the environmental impacts which was part of the question. this is a dirty oil they have to heat up over 200 degrees and ship it through a pipeline that ultimately links. 98 miles of keystone one has to be dug up and next because of inferior wells.

if you want to jeopardize the environment and the aquafer then support those two but that is not the case. >> gordon howie 60 second rebuttal if you would like it. >> i would. i disagree about the no jobs. i have been hearing it will cover half of the oil and that is jobs related to that. we know north dakota oil impacts western south dakota and the rest of the state. to say this might stabalize jobs in place might be a stretch. >> question two deals with what most consider the do nothing congress. a new poll showed only 14% of

people are satisfied with how congress is doing. how will your presence to the senate help the congress work better? how will you turn it around? >> i am distraught about the relationship. republicans and democrats don't talk to each other. i am serving as an independent senator and work with both sides especially on the deficit. i have been a professor since leaving the senate and we have come to a point where our government isn't functioning. the senate provides for independents. joe liberman became more powerful after leaving the senate. i am serving as an independent working with both sides. it is also my strongest conviction there should be restrictions on fundraising while people are in office. i pledge to serve one six-year

term. i will not have to raise money. senators raise 52% of their time raising money for next election. i am do two terms of work in one term. i have had the experience and i want to go make it work. >> rick weiland 60 seconds. >> i will put forward something to overturn citizen's united. i believe money is driving show and polarized the congress and nation. you have folks like the koch brothers threatening to spend over $200 million and demanding people tow the line you have a problem in washington, d.c. i think if we can get that done

we will get back to the civility we had back in the day but that was so long ago people have forgotten how congress should work. there needs to be people working across the aisle and we can take it back but we have to get the money from the political system. it is really the sole reason i got into the race. washington is broken and it is broken because it has been taken over by big money special interest who likes to keep it that way. when washington is broken they are profiting. >> gordon howie, 60 seconds on if you are elected to the senate how you will make congress better >> i don't mind calling out republicans or democrats when they are being unfair. i think the republican leadership in the state failed doing this when they refused to

let them call for testimony on the eb 5 scandal. so you begin with fairness and that means republicans don't just stonewall ideas any more than harry reid stonewalls legislation in the senate right now. i want to commend my opponent in this race rick weiland. i extended a welcome to all of the candidates to sit down and talk about issues and share the concerns and let south dakota voters see who we are. the only candidate who has accepted that invitation is rick weiland. so south dakota is going to get an opportunity to see what we can do when we are working and talking together. the voters understand issues and that is significant. >> larry pressler, 60 rebuttal. >> if elected i shall sponsor

legislation to limit contributions and reward small contribut contributors and this will be one of my first acts because i think we need to limit it. as an independent i will not be raising money as a united states senator. i have only about 1% as much money available to my campaign as my opponent whose are running under the party nominations. i have a harder time getting my message out because of this so i will need your help. but people will have an opportunity in south dakota to vote for a shoe string campaign and vote for a campaign that is not drowning in special interest money and my campaign only has 1% as much money has the two-part candidates and that

needs to change. >> one of the challenges facing the community and the world is this isis militant group that is engaged in ethnic cleansing and they have threatened the united states. what specific steps should the united states take to dismantle iisis and eliminate the threat? rick weiland starting with you. >> i am sure we will all listen to the president addressing the nation tonight and i wish him well. we will agree that isis is a threat and them murdering two americans on their soil was atrocious. it needs to be addressed.

and i don't think it can be unilateral. i hope the president talks about building a universal coalition. it is a world threat and the international community needs to come together to get rid of this threat. now i will support airstrikes if that is what the president thinks we need to do. but i will not support boots on the ground. i cannot support sending our sons and daughters back over to the middle east to fight another war. we have paid for the wars in iraq and afghanistan with loss of life and treasure and trillions of dollars spend in iraq and afghanistan and the cost of the wars are still going. we need to take care of the people here. there are a lot of unmet needs including the veterans who have returned from iraq and afghanistan. they need timely, accessible,

quality care at the va health care system and we are making improvements but it took a crisis to get it done. we need listen carefully to the president and an international approach. airstrikes but no boots on the ground. >> gordon howie, 60 seconds on how we deal with isis. >> some suggested the president has no policy but i would say he does. it is too little too late. we should have been dealing with this crises two or three years ago. we need to support our friends like israel, for instance, because it is more economically viable to help people fighting the same battle we are fighting. i think we need to look at precision as well. focused strikes where we can take out these pockets of leadership and i think it is serious mistake to remove anything from the table.

if you begin a policy by announcing to the world including your enemies what you are not will to do you are already compromised going on so nothing should be off the table. and we need a proposal and a policy. i suspect what we will hear from the president later on this evening is more of the same: too little too late. we need to be proactive and serious about protecting our own interest. >> larry pressler 60 seconds. what do we do about isis? >> i am the only veteran in this race. i recall my dad saying to me at our farm. i was with a young man and a rode scholar and i could have kept student deferment for several years. and he said to me you can take the scholarship but if you don't

volunteer and serve someone poorer and les able than you will have to go. so i volunteered for service in vietnam but i was disappointed in the war. so i think i can speak with authority about boots on the ground. we need to strike lethally and quickly but as kissenger said yesterday have a plan to get out. you strike with high technology weapons and get out. and that is what i would do. i would not have a force that would have to stay there. >> rick weiland, a 60 second rebuttal if you would like it. >> it is really disappointing mike brown isn't hear to answer the questions. these are the questions you will have to give answers to when you get elected to the state senate and here we are on the verge of another middle east conflict and

talking about minimum airstrikes and galvanizing the international community and arming the syrian rebles and mike has decided not to show up. >> after an official and former governor of mike brown's administration embezzled mother

more than half a million and there are allegations another state person started a program with the eb 500 program. so the question is does the eb 500 program create more difficulties? do you support it? >> the eb-5 program may have started out innocently enough i will not say. but it has fostered an environment of creed, corruption and there is a man dead. there are new revelations about more problems every day. and today i am hearing about one of the center king pins of the investigation, both federal and state, if we are calling this an investigation, that his attorney contributed to mike brown's campaign. i asked for mike to release

information that shows financial contributions by eb-5 beneficiaries to his war chest. he is silent on that so far. it is interesting that new revelations come every day. first half a million dollars missing. i am hearing report as and you e seeing them as well of over a hundred million loans missing. we hear about a loan at 29% interest. how can that be good for south dakota and how can it be something that a former governor could sweep aside and say i wasn't running it. why did he approve a million check or issue his approval of this private enterprise he setup to reap millions of dollars. i would like for mike brown to look the camera in the face and

say he has received no benefit and no one has received any benefit from eb-5 buddy. he cannot say that so he is not here tonight >> larry pressler 60 seconds on eb-5. >> fortune magazine has reported that south dakota is one of the most corrupt states in the united states and that is a shame. that is part of the reason i ran. if i am elected i shalli appoin an independent state attorney. the corruption in our state has drawn national attention. i would call upon governor rounds to issue a memrandom of facts and that is what happened from his points of view before the election. a new senator will be vetted in

their first year and if that senator is mike browns and he is vetted and there is something there it will hurt the people of south dakota because their senator will be crippled so we should have that before the election rather than after. >> rick weiland 60 seconds on eb-5. >> i came out early when this started saying i oppose it. sale of citizenship for half a million bucks doesn't square well with -- i know mike likes to talk about good old south dakota common sense. we are selling green cards to allow people to cut to the front of the line. it is not just people. it is foreign big money coming into the state and now we have this mess on our hands and it is unfortunate. there was a comment made saying we do need to get to the bottom

of this before november 4th. and now we have more questions than answers and mike isn't here and i am wondering outside of the difference of selling citizenship to the highest bidder that maybe there is something more to this that we are never going to see until after the election and that would be a real disservice. >> gordon howie 60 second if you would like. >> yes. he has an opportunity to clear the state and let the voters see what happened with this scandal. i have called on him to do so.

i think that is only fair and that is the way we will discover the truth when people will testify under oath. right now the republican leadership is stonewalling every effort and protecting something or trying to hide something. you need to come forward and answer questions, mike. >> our next question tonight deals with the dynamic that we have in this race. we have two independents running for this senate seat and south dakota has an independent streak that is a mile long both of the candidates have being criticized for muddying the water in the

race. our latest south dakota poll showed 11% points between mike brown and rick. larry pressler, it shows if you were not in the race it would be a dead heat between mike brown and rick weiland. but high ranking democrats say they don't believe rick weiland can win the race. gentlemen, why are the critics wrong and why will you win the election in november. larry pressler, 60 seconds. >> our law allows for independent candidates and they should be treated equally if they are on the ballot. i have been concerned that independents are referred to as trying to steal the votes from others. the same poll you sited could have matched me against rick

weiland and i could have been winning. i think we need to have more independents in the united states senate. there are two there now and kansas is probably going to elect one and i would be fourth. i think we could help washington get more things done especially on the deficit and i think that is the number one threat to agriculture, national defense and lots of other areas. so i am proud to run as an independent and we are going to make real change in america and in south dakota. it would be refreshing for south dakota to elect an independent to the senate. >> rick weiland, 60 seconds, why are your critics wrong? >> i don't think they can appreciate the travelling to every town in south dakota and

sitting down in the kitchens and senior centers and showing up and talking to the people of south dakota. south dakota has a streak of sending democrats to washington. and i really do believe that getting out there and talking to the voters is a lot more important than shaking down big money out of state. i don't know where mike is tonight but he is not here. i think as i said earlier people want someone who is going to show up on the floor of the united states senate and have their best interest at heart. they are out there fighting for him not the special interest. maybe i rubbed my national party wrong and that is okay, too because i am claim i am independent of the national party in terms of winning and running in the race. i am running for the people of south dakota and i am going to fight for the people of south dakota and show up every day

fighting for them and not money. >> rick weiland why are they wrong >> polling data is interesting. one day it can be 75% and the next day there can be a significant upset. most of the polling collected on this data mentioned the three other candidate and undecided and doesn't even mention my name. i am not sure why or their method in that regard but i would say you cannot have an accurate poll when you don't mention all of their names. i am in the race because they need an alternative. the round's money bought the primary. i am a strong supporter of life

and i was the only republican senator in the state senator to vote against then governor rounds 2010 budget because it increased spending an additional $10 million and led to the $127 million deficit. >> in our south dakota poll you were included n polling and came in at 3%. wanted to clarify. >> thank you. that is kind. >> larry pressler, 60 seconds. >> let me clarify i agree with my friend gordon on the issues of sworn statements from governor rounds if we can get them. all of the prosecution is going to happen next. so the best we can hope for is a declaration by the governor as to what the facts are. i wanted to point that out.

also, in terms of independents in the senate, the reason veterans bill was passed by an independent united states senator who chaired the veterans comment community and passed the bill. so independents can be affective there in the senate and there are two now and we are hoping for four and that will provide a balance to break loose the poisonous deadlock and the deficit is one of my biggest concerns so i would balance that in a reduction of the overseas, obsolete military spending and eliminating corporate deducti deductions. let's remember republican senators vote for higher deficits because they vote for corporate subsidies. >> and that is time. we will talk for a moment about

campaign financing here. rick weiland you in particular have made a point in your advertising to talk about the role big money can play in a campaign. our question is two-fold tonight. to date who is the largest c contributor to your campaign and how do we reduce the role of of big politics. rick weiland we will start with you >> i wrote my own bill to overturn citizens united. the one in the senate is similar to mine and it didn't pass. big money is running the show. but we can take it back. i don't think for the most part members of congress want to be professional fundraisers but those are the rule.

i asked mike brown if he would be limwilling to limit contributions to a $100 and he turned me down. i asked about a way to keep the dark money from coming in and buying to senate seat and he didn't respond and he is not here tonight. who knows where he is? he is probably raising money somewhere in the country. citizens united was a bad thing for the country and so was mckuctchen versus the fcc. he voted against campaign finance. big money is the problem. it is calling the shots on health care reform, financial service reform and energy policy. if you follow the money and where it is coming from you will

see who i lined up anskand most my contributions are small and average in the scheme of things and nothing like the $9 million he is bolstering about. >> you know your largest contributor? >> i have some giving $5200 for the primary and general election. they are south dakota residents and people from other parts of the country. i am willing to send that back if we can level the playing field. but i wasn't going to unilaterally disarm. that would be like giving the seat to big money. so i will play by the rules he wants to play by but i will not tie both hand behind my back. >> i would like to give you an opportunity to be my biggest

donor tonight. i will let you write a check. frankly, i couldn't tell you who my largest contributor but it wouldn't be impressive. i hear a lot of complaining about big money in politics and i will join the wagon to complain until i get some of that. mike brown boasted of raising $9 million and rick has raised $2-$3 million. but what i would say is that big money isn't the problem in my campaign because we certainly haven't had big contributions. we have not taken any pac money i am aware of. it is all individuals. >> larry pressler, 60 seconds on your largest contributor and

getting money out of campaigns. >> dr. ron smith less than $2,000 people in south dakota have a chance to vote for a true grassroots campaign. i don't get the big special interest money my democratic and republican opponents do. i need you to send me some. you can go to our website and be part of the small contributors. i will have about 1% as much money as the republican or democratic nominees. we need an effort to get them out. homemade bumper stickers and yard signs and volunteers are needed. i need your help. >> rick weiland 60 seconds if

you would like it. i >> i will say rickweiland.com works as well. and i go back to brown bolstering about spending most of the time away from the state raising money. i believe that this issue is probably the single most important thing we need to deal with in this country because we are not getting health care because of the policies and we will not get bills based on clean air and fuel because of the oil companies. and mike is lined up with them. you have a real stark contrast between the democratic candidate and the republican candidate

when it comes to money in pollack it. it is on the back of my business card and when i receive a contribution from out of state they know the first thing i am doing is running big money out of the system. >> gordon howie do you have have a website? >> thanks for asking. gordonhowieforsenate.com. >> the u.s. recession ended five years ago. and a new report released last week said the united states has added two million jobs over the last five years. but countries are hiring temporary and part-time workers and ten million people are still out of work and emp pay is

increasing by 1.2%. did you believe the economy has recovered from the recession? >> my first impression is to as a are you kidding me? obamacare has created significant job loss across the country. in 2010 i intr -- introduced a bill that would have nullified obamacare in south dakota and we would have joined other states in opposing that legislation that has been bad for the economy particularly those people in south dakota seeing their insurance premiums going up. and then governor mike brown sent his chief of staff to the senate state affairs committee to kill that bill. i have been a staunch opponent of government-run health care.

i think if we think government-run health care boost the economy rather than hurt it we should visit the indian health care system or the veterans and the va. it is a bad health care system. i was at a restaurant and a waitress was bemoaning the fact she had to go find more work because her employers reduced her hours. >> larry pressler 60 seconds. have we fully recovered from the

recession? >> i want to correct rick on one thing. i supported campaign reforms and supported all of the john anderson suggestions and voted over and over in favor of this. as far as wages are concerned we need raise the minimum wage, raise teacher pay and help our native americans. i was honored to utilize gerald one feather. i was on the reservation in pine ridge and i will bow on two more. we will visit 15 cities starting tomorrow and i see a lot of poverty and the middle class is struggling. we have a problem in your state. people barely get by. people who work for wages. whether it is working at a bank. wages are low and people are struggling.

i want to do something and get into the united states senate. i will be powerful and a voice that is able to speak to the voice of special interest. >> have we fully recovered from the recession, rick weiland? >> if you are part of the 1% you have. that is why big money likes a dysfunctional government, i think. this is supposed to be an honest referee but they bought off the referee and like government unstable. when 400 people in this country have more wealth than 150 million people then something is wrong. i maintain is because our money got in the way of big

government. there are things we need to do in south dakota and i came out in favor of the minimum wage. this isn't the paul ryan budget. this continues the big money run of government by cut billionaire's taxes and big corp rayicor corperations and cutting student grants and head start. >> we are getting tight on time. >> do i get 60 seconds? even 30 would do. >> i would say i disagree with both of my friends on this program about increasing the minimum wane. it doesn't solve the problem. we have to solve the problem by

going to the root. we need to stop printing or creating new money which devalues every dollar these middle class and low class income earners make in this country. we need to do something about fiscal responsibility to stop overspending and to stop overtaxing. >> all right. now gentlemen going forward, each question, each of you get 60 seconds to answer. the president said in late spring he is going to texas to take executive action on immigration but now says he is going to wait until after the election. what specifically needs to be done to reform american immigration policy inlarry pressler 60 seconds. >> specifically i would do three things. first of all i would relocate

some of the obsolete basis in europe and italy and have them patrol the border between mexico and united states. we could do that at no additional cost because we have the troops already. number two, i would follow the george bush immigration plan and support a five-year path to citizenship. and i would recognize the needs of agriculture and we need to though throw our arms around the immigrants who have come and they are a blessing to us. but we want them in on an orderly bases with a security

border. and i would join in with rick on the constitutional amendment for campaign reform. >> rick weiland, how to we specifically reform immigration? >> i think it is straightforward. in a very uncharacteristic effort the united states senate passed immigration reform with over 60 vote and they sent it over to the house of representatives for consideration and to take a vote on. but unfortunately speaker boehner hasn't even brought it to the floor. he had a bipartisan bill that put aside money for border security like the republicans want and it also presented a path to citizenship. pass the bill that the senate has deliberated on and send over to the house. now, you know, i don't -- i want

to say this. i don't think the eb-5 visa program is angration -- an immigration policy. people shouldn't come into the country by buying their way into the getting status but going through the immigration process. and unfortunately mike isn't here to talk about it. >> a good start to do this is for a president to get off his golf cart and get back into the office and do something. we need to secure the border. mexico keeps their border secure. it is the same one. if someone accidently crosses into mexico they find themselves incarcerated. but our border is open and hundreds of thousands of people are coming through undocumented. we need to secure the border.

that is job number one. and then track every worker. this acceisn't the process of eliminating labors. we need to know who they are and what they are doing. and our national security is in serious jeopardy. >> gentlemen, we have seen how the oil boom in north dakota has jump started that state's economy with them realizing an estimated $30 billion. it is believed there is strong support in oil exploration but action has been slight. do you support the exploreation? >> i had a number of chances to talk to people in areas around

the state and if it untapped we need to support it. i don't see a lot of effort going forward and it maybe because the balkan fields in north dakota are richer in supply and the process is already underway. eventually i can see it coming to that part of the state. we need to be prepared. maybe there is lessons learned from what is going on in north dakota that we need to be mindful of. i personal think we should be moving more toward renewable sources of energy like ethanol and solar and wind. and to move way from the fossil fuel development we are doing. but we have to transition to that and need to make sure we make efforts to do that. >> mr. howie. 60