in this one part of pakistan, the fact that the army we'lld it actually means have a bump-up in cases as those kids move around. gives us a chance to get in and have access. so we're optimistic, despite terrorist groups taking this on, expected.uldn't have against polio erad raition -- eradication, it seems wild that you'd pick that as something to against. the nonterrorist leaders have been our partners in trying to get the word out. a question right here. yourself.roduce routersa, thompson foundation. as you say s infrastructure is absolutely critical in getting diseases under control. are you rethinking how you're going to direct your funding in order to help build more primary health care systems? secondly, would you like to

have an idea, when you think the resources have been thrown at ebola, that it might be realistic to see it under control? >> i don't think you'll get date.y to predict a it's hard, given that it could spread out to lore locations -- locations. that's got to be a big concern. getting all the surrounding ready so that if a few people show up there, there are treatment centers and getting peoplet into those treatment centers is the right thing for the patient for the community. because of that uncertainty, i'm hazard a guess. this month, the basic infrastructure in the three to get inis going place. the tent camps are going up fairly quickly. volunteering. so it's great to see the energy

the next, well, 30 days, pieces will come into place. we do a lot on primary health care. we do, that weng focus on, which is about saving children's''s and is through primary health care. that's a deep specialty of our foundation. the outliars,at outlyers, you get less of your kids dying. there are countries like ghana that are ahead of that. like nigeria that are behind that. understanding how the good built and bringing that to those other countries, that's been a huge area of focus us. it's not so much the actual infrastructure. the building is not the hard

part. it's training the workers, getting the supply chain, both of normal drugs and also the vaccines, and we can go through talkry by country and about how we're engaged in health those primary care systems up. and if we had that, you know, beenepidemic would have caught a month or two before it actually was. >> there's a strain of thought. questions overe here. >> yes. betsy williams. on that point a little bit, i think something lost is the gains that have been made in these very fragile health care systems. period just come from a of rebuilding. my question is, what investments parallel to the ebola response to restore those services and also ensure that system that exists after this is stronger and more resilient than the one that was in place?

>> well, as i said, right in that region, you have ghana. setting up thee orchestration center in setting up this thing. outlyer.is a positive in fact, the amount of money some of the poor systems, like the nigerian system, is every bit as much as goes into the better systems. so understanding how you spend track the how you activity in those systems, we understand that fairly well. stop ebola, when it's just these three countries, populationing about of about 22 million people in the three countries -- building primary health care in those three countries should be fairly straightforward. very highbe a priority. as i said, more kids, even in will dieee countries,

because the health system is fromdown than will die ebola, and so if you hesitate, even a few months, to get it so feel like, yes, i should go and do safe delivery or i and get malaria medicines or antibiotics for the --ia, that will be it will be very tragic, even though it's not as explosive, garnering the same type of attention that the ebola attract.emselves >> i think the senator has a question. >> thank you. thank you for doing this. you're a pretty good example of -- [inaudible] >> thank you for all you've done redefining philanthropy. i can't think of a better of you. thank you for your kind compliments about the congress. you may be the only person in town. just to add to your point, actually the house of representatives increased the for pep fire in their

budget and bob corker told me that the senate will likely as well. so those -- it doesn't get much thate but those are things are being done in a positive way. in the year 2000, as you pointed the u.n. millennium goals, the eight identified, i'm wondering, looking at it from a management standpoint, and, again, you sort of addressed already,ome degree some of the rather vague in a sense, all very worthwhile but nonetheless there's vagueness to them. how do we score success in those and what management techniques can be brought together? signed on the that. and there is a tipping point in the u.s. in terms of what we can be successful at it. how do we draw other nations into this process behind the stand british and -- and british and the european to become much, more proactive in addressing these issues? >> that's a very timely

because those goals essentially, although they were 2000,gether in the year they covered sort of the 25-year period. 1990 to 2015.as so we had 15 years for the world really prioritize those activities. and the fact that they measurable, it was absolutely incredible. a whole will have only reduced about a little nearer half, and it is still we went from 12 million children dying, and by the time it is done, we will be under 6 million a year, and that is vaccines that were invented and funded by the united states, and in september of next year,

there will be a new version adopted to cover the period 2015 and because these got a lot of focus, and they did drive acceleration, it was towards the end that they got the most progress there. the idea of what should these goals look like, and now because they got this ability, almost everyone is saying, hey, what about my goal? it will not be quite as sustained, but we will be finishing the unfinished development goals, so getting the death down under 4 million the year, and then our foundation's commitment is to go even beyond that. if you got it down to 2 million a year, you would have health equity, which is a chance dying in a poor country would be less than double that of a child

dying in a rich country, and those kids can grow up and not be malnourished and contribute, get their countries to be self-sufficient, that is an , andng debate taking place what about into these causes? it is very important. and what we should have is more countries contributing, so your leverage would be very high. some very tough countries, like the democratic ali, and youcongo, m get the very toughest, the landlocked countries, yemen, haiti, afghanistan. they will be the ones we will be focused on, but this is the way this works.

the coastal african countries, a lot of those will graduate over the next 10 years, and then the next 10 years will be about the very tough cases, but it is a very uplifting story that we have cut childhood death in half, and the congress has played a role there. the other donors have played a role, and the voters in all of these countries don't have a sense that that was generosity. all of the dollars spent by the more lives have been saved and improved per dollar, by a huge amount, by that part of the budget than the rest of it. now, it is not here in the u.s., so i am not saying we should go when spend the money over there. it is one of many, many priorities, but you get a measurable result. >> winky. senator dodd, there have been arguments about capital going into solving problems of young

people in silicon valley. it is too hard to get a cab or set a thermostat. in your harvard commencement speech, you talked about having the best minds emitted to solving our worst problems, and you have said there is a gap there. >> the word as a role is educating more scientists, so the total iq going into solving cancer, creating ways of generating electricity without emitting co2, and coming up with vaccines for all of these diseases, we are getting more and more people participating, and the very tools of the digital revolution, the ability to share things on the internet and search large amounts of data, those tools are absolutely phenomenal, so looking at genetic data and figuring out why are people predisposed to this and what goes on with those

diseases, and the research in our foundation could not be anywhere near as ambitious without the digital revolution and the huge funding for the nih, which has built up that level of scientific knowledge, yeah, there are some that are not focused on it. and that is ok. i think the balance is shifting away from them. go to siliconi valley and talk to people who have been successful there, i talk about a few of those technologies, like monitoring health, yes, it will be used for people to monitor their health, but we will take those same watches to clinics and monitoring the diseases. >> is that a healthwatch? >> no, that is a $10 watch. so even though the term trickle-down sounds bad, for a lot of things, getting the cell phones out, getting these

networks set up, we are going to see huge benefits from that revolution, and that is another thing when you have this glum mood that people are in. they do not see that innovation is actually being faster today than ever before, both here in the u.s., in things like how we educate kids, and on these global health issues. >> there is a little bit of a fit bit crazy here in d.c. how do you feel about fit bit? devices,st-generation where the apple watch is a second generation, were eventually this ability to see how am i sleeping, is there anything going on with my heart rate or my calories that are of concern, we will be able to far, far health better. and it will be easy. you can have contests with your friends, so it is the beginning of a not -- of a phenomenon that is very positive.

we have not talked about another one of your campaigns, which is a hitting campaign with warning buffett. is it harder to do that than it is to sell billionaires on the idea that they should give all of their money away? >> we are not saying to give it all away. they get to keep enough to do and the giving pledge is a group that has come together to learn from each , who have been very, very lucky with their success, giving a majority of their wealth away, and we have an increasing membership. now, and i27 right think we will get more and more people joining. i think the idea of giving smarter, giving earlier, giving even more generously, i do think that is catching on, and the u.s. is the envy of the world in this area, and i was in india

last week at a philanthropy forum, with a lot of people talking about, yes, even though some things are even more troubling, the idea of philanthropist doing pilot programs, showing the government theyhings can be done -- are seeing the importance of philanthropy and thinking they want to develop that, strengthen that, and develop that's during -- same tradition, so rise.thropy is on the whether it is the tech sector or the finance sector. we have people coming and helping us recruit more people, and the idea of being smart. it is kind of a world of its own. it does not have the same feedback of profit and loss, so i will spend tomorrow in new york city, and the whole afternoon is talking about measuring.

does it work? what can you expect out of a well done measurement system? >> i imagine this is a competitive group. >> when you get into philanthropy, you are not competing in quite the same way that you do in the private sector. talking aboute giving, all politics is local, and in interview with rolling stone, you said you do not give a lot of political contributions. why not? onsomebody gives one million one side, and somebody gives one million on the other side, that is $2 million that could go to a great charter school or inventing vaccines or rolling things out, so i don't -- i just pour money into that type of vehicle. i do normal kind of contributions, particularly for people who are going over to

africa and help piloting global health, and that has tended to be pretty bipartisan in nature because of the coalition that exists around these global health issues, but i don't think my backing, putting a lot of isey into the contributions a way i'm going to try to help improve the world. super pac's can -- >> they know not to call me. me, becausebother once you set the precedent that that is not your game, you go elsewhere. >> but you are supporting several causes that have become lyrical lightning rods, whether your support for education reform or gun control initiatives, for example. see an increasing polarization on those issues? those are issues you personally care about, even if you are not engaging in traditional campaign contributions.

me,ell, common core is, to kidsy basic idea that should be taught what they're going to be tested on and that we should have grade curriculum material. core, whaton existed, where 50 states were all different, and many of them were not teaching kids what they would end up being tested on, it was so low quality compared to other countries, particularly the asian countries. textbooksour math were twice the size of asian textbooks, so the kids were carrying around these extra heavy textbooks, and if you want them to be in to mandated by map, give them a super heavy textbooks, and the asians have a textbook about this thick, and getting far, far

better results, so common core i would think was more of a 10 ofatic issue, the basic idea should be share in the medical plug across the country. you could get partisan about that -- should we share an electrical plug across the country. should they teach multiplication in a different way. is brilliant. who came up with that idea? common core, the idea of what you should know at various grades, that that should be well structured, you should really can build on that. i do not expect that to become a .ig political issue fortunately, it is moving ahead, but there has been a lot of misinformation, and the federal government wrote this thing, or something like that, so you never know what is going to become political. >> a question over here. sir? >> with pedestrians.org.

civils the role of leadership and ngo's in west africa? >> well, ngo's are absolutely fundamental in those countries, and there are a lot of cases where those countries have not been able to invest in some of these cases because of civil war. a lot of the ngo's, including some of the catholic related ones, philanthropist that have been coming in and funding groups there, a lot of the capacity that exists, from those ngo's. now, over time, we would like to ngo's.the reliance on if you look at ethiopia and uganda, they got the ngo's, and they have got one supply chain measurement, one system, so, in there,go's are still that it is all part of one system.

the hospitals, the primary care systems, they were mostly ngo related, and as we stitch it back together, you do want to but an overall system, anyone who gives to those ngo's, they should feel great about the capability that that absolutely put in place. even in nigeria, where we do see good health care. it is often the model of the ngo that allows them to work as well as it does. >> figuring out your question. you said,interview, does privilege corrupt, and you said, it is easy to get spoiled by things that alienate you from what is important. how do you personally resist? >> well, if success corrupts, i am probably rhythmically -- pretty corrupted and cannot even recognize it.

you know, our foundation looks at picking goals, like childhood death, childhood nutrition, kids that get a four year degree that is a high-quality degree, and we try to brand ourselves by working on problems like that and seeing how tough it is, we try to get out in the field a lot to see where things are and hear from teachers about education, sit down with students, and we get to do some of that later this week. so, you know, i am a spoiled in the types of interesting problems i get to work on and who i get to learn from, so i try to give back a little bit because it is so much fun to work on these problems. >> one of the ways that you stay

grounded is talking to young entrepreneurs. what do you look for? everyone wants to pitch you. what do you look for in a young entrepreneur and a business plan? pitches are about a product that has essentially already been done. the idea of finding something that hasn't been done, that is what is tough, so either a breakthrough in understanding behavior, a breakthrough in understanding something you can scientifically, because computation has gotten so much more powerful. a lot of things were not done in the fast because computers were too slow, but now, the sky is the limit. being able to see what is going on, being able to understand speech, being able to take massive amounts of data and the possibilities are incredible, and the start of the want to see are people who have identified what can be done

now that has not been done yet, and how will they maneuver quickly enough that the incumbents who have the benefit of scale and brand and field presence are not going to go and capture that opportunity. a lot of innovation is actually done once companies are founded. the most daunting is, oh, i have started a new company. that is great. it is a very important element, but it is once the company that has gone going, and they are , and evenp v2, v3 more of the advance comes through that piece, so the entrepreneur who can carry bringing other talent as things scale up, that is often more scarce than even the good idea. orwe have time for just one two more quick ones. >> go ahead. >> an avid playbook reader and

pc fan. two things. can you comment on the importance of the primary point of care data that the gates foundation is working on, with your programs, in particular, and second of all, it is no secret that your foundation is changing the world of philanthropy. it is moving the needle in a way we have not seen before. how do you engage the next generation of americans to really care, to move into that? you have a whole room full of people that can go and change that. how is your foundation doing that? >> philanthropy is about emotional connection, taking your caring about the world and what your impact on it is and finding something that you really care a lot about, and so you can't really orchestrate what it is that people find. and to make sure they get lots of exposure. in the community, they are

seeing the social service and they are not just seeing the tourist part of it. sure people find it a little confusing in terms of what should be picked. i did. eventually, you really just have to pick, and you might not pick the most important thing, and then you're going to get expertise. you're going to develop metrics around it. you may depending on it pick staff or partners that you want to go after it with, and then you have no choice, so hours with infectious diseases, melinda and i in our lifetime want to see that largely ended as a problem, so we are going to stick to that as the primary cause. data, what is missing might seem basic. do all of the kids get vaccinated? of the kids that are dying, were

samples taken so you can find out if there's something new going on with diarrhea or pneumonia that has not been detected question mark do we need a new antibiotic? does the vaccine have to change? this basic feedback. are the workers doing their job? were the supplies there for them? trainedy properly question mark and we see the disease burden there. a lot of the measurement systems have been so macro that you get the data three years later, and that does not help you say, oh, the workers are not showing up in this area. what we need at worst is quarterly data from the health care center and know what is going on there, and that is where cell phones, digital systems, cameras, the ability to do very inexpensive data-gathering is going to

enable us to see the performance of these systems. india with melinda going through the primary health care systems, that is a place where we have done pilot rollouts of the digital tracking, so nobody forgets who is going to remind his mother about the vaccination. if she does not follow-up, who is going to make sure? systems havee new very low cost, not much complexity. you should be able to raise performance, and so it is not just this huge level, macro, but it really is that one center that you know what is happening or not happening. >> who is a leader in washington that you admire? >> a leader in washington that i admire.

>> it is not a trick. the think on education, president and arne duncan have brought a lot. in educationole k-12 is not the central role, but having raced to the top and having visibility, what charter schools have done, how they can be expanded, taking the test data that came out of no child left behind, which really did -- it was bad news, because it showed us how poorly the interest -- intercity was doing, so no child left behind was an advance. now, nobody wanted to deal with all of that bad news. it was, please, stop telling us that. can we set the data source off? so let's find some positive things. let's get behind them. teachers, and in

some areas getting kids into more charter schools. positive changes in k-12, and that take leadership. nonpartisan. you recently had a conversation with rand paul. what did you think? >> the idea that we need to be better, that we need to bring higher-quality, that we need to understand what we need to get done. some of these global institutions, including some of the u.n. institutions, are not

run as well as we would like area now, the question is, do we engage in doing that, or do we disengage? that is where refine find a different point of view. >> and at the end, we have a little fun, where we have the hook. reading?you >> i just started as henry kissinger book called "world or der," which is really good. what is the paradigm that brings the world together? do we have any shared ideas, or do we have a pragmatic view? i found that very enlightening. the author ofith capital in the 21st century, thomas, and with some things i iree with them, some things did not agree with him, and that is a very important set of topics.

call you? >> i called him. i am writing a book review of the book, and it was important. eshave a website called gat notes. something, iad generally write a review. >> you said one thing that was met with a little skepticism. you have said you read every word of the economist every week. do you still do? have already read it this week. i am feeling very virtuous. [laughter] in terms of fun, the most fun book i have read was this one called the rosie project, and actually, the sequel called the rosie effect will be, not in the u.s. i think in about two or

three months. a brilliant book. you find yourself laughing out loud. the reason i had to read it is that my wife was laughing out loud so much while reading it, so i thought there had to be something good in there. >> where did you go? >> we went to austria. my wife turned 50, so we did a sound of music themed event, and we had on leader is in -- lederh osen. >> and there is always the good stuff in the last five minutes. right, penultimate question. you are a big tennis player. give us one tennis tip. >> it is a full body swaying. it is not just your arm. strength is key. >> and last question. you eat a lot of burgers. why are you a birder -- burger

addict? >> i don't know. they are easy to eat. you can go pretty much anywhere in the world and get a decent burger. india may not be the best place. [laughter] >> cheese or no cheese? where? >> i know all of the ones in seattle, and there is one there called, but burger king, those are pretty good. you cannot grow up better than that. sure whatw, i am not to say except thank you very much. this has been a terrific and wide ranging conversation. thank you very much. i am especially grateful to bank of america, our partner on this, and to all of you for coming out to inaugurate this new series. and you can come to our website at politico.

join us and follow us on facebook and twitter. >> at the annual legislative conference of the congressional black conference, the attorney for michael brown and trayvon martin, along with civil rights activists, discussed police practices and abuses of police power. this is one hour and 20 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good afternoon, everyone. good afternoon. my name is joshua harris and i work on behalf of alpha phi alpha come i would like to thank you for attending this afternoon. we are going to get things

started and it's going to be a great conversation. and so i am excited. are you as excited? good, good. the first person i'm going to introduce to you here was elected to the u.s. house of representatives from the fourth congressional district in 2012. he is the first african-american and persons of color to service part of the federal delegation. he represents one of the most diverse districts in the country, which is approximately 52,000 square miles. congressman steven horsford served in 2008 and became the youngest and first african-american senate majority leader are you representing the force that served in the financial services committee and the committee on oversight and government one. please join me in welcoming someone i have the pleasure of welcoming. congressman steven horsford.

[applause] >> good afternoon. that afternoon. i know that we were out late, but we are here now. it is great to be here and thank you to the brothers of alpha phi alpha for hosting this very important forum and discussion on knowing our rights and the criminal justice system and i would like to thank our panel to be here today as well. everyone knows we are here because of an event that occurred on august 9, in ferguson, missouri, when a young boy, who had just graduated high school who was literally weeks

away from enrolling in college, had his life taken from him in an unnecessary and tragic event and then at the request of my collie, the congress and the represents that area come i intended to pay my respects to the family and to the community and also to be part of this national conversation about what we can do to improve the community and police relationship and that is what this channel is all about. snow our rights. during the funeral, one of the young men who spoke on on behalf of michael brown who was a friend of hers is that michael brown wanted the world to know

his name and out of this tragic and unnecessary event and the fact that we had law enforcement agencies in ferguson, missouri, having the military, and to those who are expressing their first amendment right to protest, we have to use that tragic event as an opportunity to have this larger discussion and i also want to ask for your help and for your support because there are members of congress who are working hard and have been working hard to try to address these issues well

before the michael brown event even before trayvon martin and i sponsored the universal respect that, which is one opportunity for us to enact meaningful change. it is a bill that would require a comprehensive review of law enforcement policies across the country in order to eliminate procedures in racial profiling. and the legislation would require the recipients of federal law enforcement grants and do not engage in racial profiling. and if they can't prove that, then they would be at risk of receiving funds from the department of homeland security and this is a companion bill to congressman conyers and racial profiling act and we need your

help and we need others to support this legislation. every member supports these measures and many of our other colleagues do as well and to help bring them to a vote in the house. because the only way that we are going to change these dynamics is by having laws that support those changes. so as we continue to mourn the loss of michael brown and others who are tragically taken away from us, we must use our energy and our grassroots organization to call for change. these types of local discussion such as the ones we are having today is where real solutions can be formed and shaped either

community and it's been vitally important that we as american citizens know our rights and know that we are protected by the constitution and fight for dignity against brutal actions by certain law enforcement agencies. and i would like to say this. more than 90% of law enforcement officers and agencies do their jobs respectfully and professionally. and there are instances where they are not following the standards and they need to be held accountable. while we support those men and women who serve with us, we want to hold those accountable, and those that are not doing their job in the manner in which they are called upon. and so thank you for bringing

our boys with these issues and each one of you brings your own perspective, so thank you very much for participating and for all of you being here today. have a great meeting, everybody. [applause] >> now we will get this information started. he is an author and actor, the author of two books -- i'm sorry, five bucks. my apologies. but the most important thing is that they have a passion for empowering young people and he is bringing his foundation here to the washington dc area to help expand upon that. see if you would join me in welcoming another person that i have, mr. hill harper.

[applause] >> hey, everybody. this is a very important panel, and i know that it is friday afternoon at around 3:00 o'clock at the time the that folks get a little sleepy. but this is a panel where we need everyone to be engaged. because this is a panel about life and death and about issues that i take extremely seriously. first of all, i want to dedicate this panel to the late chuck stone was renowned for using the law to fight against police brutality. and he and effort to not have them beaten by the police, if they showed up with scars after they were turned over to police

custody, he wrote about it in the newspaper the next day. he has chosen to hold others accountable and that is in part today what we are going to talk about. oftentimes i find that politics can meander and i really want this panel to focus on what i'm i am going to do and what you were going to do and who are we going to choose to hold accountable and what steps we will take in terms of our energy to do that. most of the panelists are holding individuals accountable and i would like to do a quick rundown. so let's introduce folks. the cofounder and legal policy director in palestine while growing up under brutal military

occupation. next we have charles. we have charles as well. he recently became the face of international media coverage surrounding the august of 2014 local law enforcement agency where he was held on a hundred thousand dollar bond and next we have resales, founder and director of the national nonprofit to bring this for economic justice. and she stood at the forefront in exposing these has resulted in more than 1000 cases.

there is a higher education professional and she most recently served at the florida department of juvenile justice and the florida court and she works with colleges would hear and educate the process. next, we have daryl parks. he and his law firm distinguish themselves in successful mediations. he protects and defends his clients including msnbc, fox news and others as well. we have lee ivory. most recently he was an adjunct

professional in washington dc and he is also the regional director for the national association of lecterns. and i have some good news for you all as well as the panelists and as you can see, my brother is not the moderator of this panel. and so that is good. [laughter] >> and i actually want to tell you where it we are going so folks have a roadmap and i want to break this panel down. i first want to start with the data and i would like to lay out the data that we are talking about and second i want to go to the micro area which is more of a personal part of this issue. and i want to talk about the macro and open it up to the

questions and i want to and with action. we walk out of here. and first, i'm going to go to ruby. i spoke on a panel earlier this week and it was detailed and laid out very eloquently how much data there is and what i was doing with the research of this panel, i found out that no government agency is currently tracking the killing of african american males. so spirit house projects have been tracking this bug the murders of black boys and men, obviously it not all this is making national headlines. >> thank you very much for the opportunity to be a part of this

urgent conversation. and i hope that we will not only act but have a broader understanding is why we should act. first of all, i want to say to you that i want to start a conversation quickly with a song that was written in 1963 in philadelphia, mississippi. it was written upon hearing this. we who believe in freedom cannot rest until it comes. until the killing of black brothers and sons is as important as the killing of white mothers sons, we who believe in freedom cannot rest until he comes. as we think about those words today, the first thing that i must say to you in all honesty

and urgency is that this is not merely about black men but an assault on the african-american community and that it must be expanded to include the lives of our sisters and our mothers and black women are being killed, they are being raped. melissa williams was riding in a car with her boyfriend and they were chased by police cars and fired 137 rounds into the car. killing both of them. we have a case of a young woman in detroit, michigan, she was killed by a s.w.a.t. team who entered her house and she's six years old, we have her in texas who was killed by the police and this is a crisis that is not confined to gender. and it's been documented since

2071 i became interested when i read about an african-american man from a 17 years old in mississippi, billy joe johnson, who died suspiciously in the hands of a deputy sheriff on the hands of a dark road in mississippi. it turns out that he has a scholarship and he was an athlete and it turns out that he was shot and made to lie in the street for seven hours and mr. and mrs. johnson were not allowed to see their son as he lay in the street and in addition to that mrs. johnson passed out. so that when we see what happened to michael brown, we understand that this is the tip of a larger iceberg and that black bodies are not valued in this society and we live in an age of disposability of culture

were only a few people matter and follow a culture of violence. where black audience. the lowest in society. when we look at michael brown and when we look at the guy who is just killed in ohio, we began to detect the real pattern and i know that black men are being killed larger than the others, but black the black women are also being killed in larger numbers than all other women. so until we can claim this discourse that represents the reality that the entire black community is being profiled and to be black to be a suspect and to be considered a criminal and to be black means that you are not safe in american society and in those murders that we have

catalogs, there are several things you need to know. >> i'm going to stop you right now, really. i want to keep focused on data. and there's a few points i would like to share. and we do appreciate your comments in that space and about this issue in general. and i would like to open it up to the rest of the panel to share any data that they believe is relevant to this situation. >> in the seven years ending in 2012 and the travesty this whole thing is that specifics are not really kept in the independent media organizations have to go and talk to the fbi and peace these things together. but ending in 2012, two times a week, a white cop killed.

and of those numbers, 400 shootings, there were 96 shootings amongst every 400 shooters and 18% of black men or black people under age 21 was a victim in the shooting compared to 8.7% of white people and so from the cases that were complained about were true media attention. of the 26,000 complaints that the fbi had kept track of, only 2000 of 26,000 -- only domine were considered excessive. and that is absolutely ridiculous. >> one data point.

i was asked to go to ferguson and i went down there and i spent four days and i was kind of digging through things. the one that stuck out to me is that the municipality of ferguson, missouri, there were 1500 arrest warrants issued per 100 cities. so if you want to break that down, if after some ticketing of an individual and therefore an arrest warrant is issued. so when you start to think about that in one year, 1500 arrest warrants for 100 people, you are talking about creating their whole budget off writing tickets

aggressively, and institutional mandate and the poorest among them, i am going to find them and ticket them and when they don't show up or pay their fine, i will issue an arrest. and i was astounded by that. so are there any other comments from the panel? >> i would like to reiterate what was said here. this tells us that every 20 hours a black man or woman or child if killed by white police security guard or vigilante. >> i would like to take it a little bit more personal. and i'd actually like to hear from all the panelists on this. and so what are some of your personal encounters -- would

have the personal account has been with the police. and if you could give us some detail and other panelists, i would love to hear you talk about this, when you were young or some of your personal encounters. >> for 51 years i was able to use day on the right side of the law, and what i thought i was going to have it happen, i never thought it would just happen for walking down the street. i was walking down the street and was mistakenly identified for a tall black man who had just served as an accomplice to robbing a bank, and armed robbery of a bank in los angeles. and i sat on the curb in handcuffs for 45 minutes and i was not told why. and i was then taken to the

station when i was fingerprinted and denied access to making a phone call and wasn't told exactly what i was being arrested for it. and was told directly what i made a comment that this is a bad dream and she said to me, yes, this is a serious crime that you have committed. and so i was relieved six hours later once i asked the fbi agent and clearly you guys have reviewed and saw that it wasn't me. and here are some of my features that you may have missed and i was told that they had not reviewed the videotape. so after spending six hours and are, at my request they reviewed the videotape and i was then released. i was released and given a paper that said i was detained.

personally, for me, i felt that while i had escaped but he wonders of being arrested, it was now being reduced to being detained. i found out a week later that there was an arrest record for me on the internet at the lapd sheriff's department. so my whole set of actions with surrounding that and how it can act each and everyone of you. and each and every one of us. >> i was raised in miami, florida. i don't know anyone here, but the police officers are not necessarily friendly to folks that look like me at all. and so i have a very similar story that i haven't told many folks, but i was detained as well at the time i was in grad school and i had just finished

my application to become a gubernatorial hello, they pulled us over and asked for his license and my life and even though i was in the passenger seat and i am like, why do you need my license. because i've read the books, and she had told me that there is a worn out for your arrest and they suffer what and when i run your life and it doesn't say suspended so i am confused. so i'm like, okay, what are you telling me. ..

they are like i don't vote anyway so this doesn't really matter it doesn't really matter i'm still going to be here regardless and it's a little pieces like what kind of training are these police officers having, what is the protocol, what kind of interactions are interaction are even allowed to have as

citizens? even if i'm not speeding -- you have the right to be smart and one of the things i was telling my friend as i always walk with my constitution. i am not just this face you see in the media. i know my rights in real life and so i think that another part of our conversation as we have the right to play smart and know what we do. >> on that note, what is an individual obligated to do, what are they obligated to do and how should an individual act and what are some of the things your clients have done that the right thing and that are the wrong thing? >> i was listening to the previous speaker and after the

questions find the ticket and moved on. [applause] the time to get smart is after you leave them. in the state of georgia if you are dressed to driving within 15 miles you can pay the fine and it doesn't count towards your license so the fight i was about to put on its about money for them but i'm not going to fight it. you don't find them on the side of the road. i want to piggyback on a few things that she said also. our policymakers appointed the chiefs. so they get rid of their elected officials and number two we elect sharers so you have a way

to actually influence them. i will talk about one little thing that we did that i thought was great. he was killed in the boot camp in florida and i'm proud of the one thing that happened in the case but there was an e-mail that went public where the prosecutor knew the guy that was headed by the state police and he sent a little e-mail saying we are going to work this out and take care of you while. you can force action in some situations. for the head to resign over the case was major and i will never forget the day that he called for the resignation and he was gone because what happened in that case. compare that to the local sheriff who didn't give up power

he continues to fight. so there is a way to get the solution for all of it. one thing that i will say it is when you have issues with the department never fight on the side of the road. you cannot beat them in the controlled environment. don't even try. yes sir, no sir. i'm not going to sit here and have small talk. but also you never know. i've had times i was speaking during over 90 and talk to the trooper out of the ticket and i had other times back in georgia again they have a courtesy that the people in law enforcement don't write tickets to them. i didn't know that until i laid my license out and my wallet and

they said we like to look out for our law enforcement people and that included me. so you be nice and don't -- nobody likes a smart but so be careful so be careful about that. so often it's like when he was talking about the case how mad he was one time on the side of the road on the new jersey turnpike when he got stopped. all of us are mad when we got stopped for whatever industry you have to keep your cool. it's important. some of the worst is the black alabama state trooper. we are on the road a lot and some of us travel by car. there's a lot of potential for interactions with comes all

shapes and sizes. >> when you think about dream defenders into the work with individuals what are some of the things that you teach and what is your own personal relationship flex >> kristen kristin actually bought a stack of these cards from the aclu and these are awesome. dream defenders participate in what is known as direct action, civil disobedience. and so our folks are often prepared to be arrested. we feel that folks should know their rights so i would encourage them to go to the website and check this out and figure out. or you can kindly get some after the panel. we try to make sure that they are prepared for anything but also knowing that you're right doesn't always protect you. we know for a fact that michael brown, may he rest in power

could have recited the constitution to the officer and he still may not be there with us today. so is empowering but it isn't the end all and be all solution. i will touch briefly on how you respond to some officers. i was pulled over speeding by a state trooper back to law school to the course and the officer asked asked while i was speeding and i said to get to criminal law or something like that and he said we need a lot of people on our side to help us administer justice. knowing full well i never had any intention of being a prosecutor i was like you're right and i have to look forward to that to serve the state of florida. here you are coming here is my license. i don't understand why i'm being pulled over by complying with

you and he lived to fight another day. one day you can maybe fuel justice. we know that isn't often the case but we have to fight with what we have in the best manner that we can. i think they are willing to go that way. i'm sure you've seen them plastered on the other shots across the country. we will lay our lives on the line for others because some of the others are not able in heaven for the privilege to be able to sacrifice in this manner. many sacrificed previously and we are going to do our part continuing to advance the fight. >> thank you for the sacrifices that you make. >> was driving today talking montgomery and i was in a rental car and the state trooper pulled

me over and in my view i had a degree with honors in harvard law school and he said i want you to step back into my vehicle. and i couldn't for the life of me remember if he could ask me to do that with no probable cause. in other words,, people of the over free speeding tickets and he had all the right to ask me to sit in the back of the vehicle i felt was beyond the pale, yet i couldn't remember where i did not know whether i could refuse this request. to do something i didn't do or if it would be better for me to sit here i'm thinking to myself it is early in the morning.

you are supposed to be a smart brother. you're supposed to know something. you've got this degree. what do i play wax i decided to sit in the back of the car. got out of my car, fine. he shuts shut the door and of course i can't open the door. he would have to let me out if i'm getting out of the back of his car and he proceeds to lecture me about why and how he is writing this ticket and what i can do to fight this ticket and i don't think that he expected me to interact with them the way that i did. and i ultimately invited him to my speech in montgomery which he refused to attend.

and then i asked him if he knew about some of the wonderful civil rights leaders that have worked at this very highway and how he is in service of them. he didn't appreciate that much that i said it in a very nice way because i felt like i have had to at least get him back a little bit. so i took my ticket and i went on. but i see that story to say that even if you think that your educated or know something, you can be asked to do things were put in situations individually by individuals of so-called authority, police officers etc. and you may not know what to do or how to do it. does anyone have any comments about that? >> you get to these

individually. i love bringing them into the deposition. it's not racial. one of our associates did an incredible job breaking down the drug in jacksonville one time. he busted out of the room and he thought he had the right to leave and his lawyer had to kindly get him and bring him back in for three hours. >> i want to move to the macro or the policy area and the perfect person to help us move in that direction as the congressman bobby scott so i would like to invite bobby scott of the podium to bring remarks and after that we will kick into the macro or the policy

discussion. congressman bobby scott. [applause] thank you for helping us in a lot of different areas and the prevention and early intervention approach to the client to be true crime rather than waiting for people to mess up and get caught into a bidding war of how much time they are going to serve. i want to thank you for coming to testify. i've known darrell for a long time, national bar association peter and of course high-profile clients. it's a pleasure to be here and with my own fraternity getting young people on the right track has been a theme for almost a hundred years into the national association of journalists i i want to thank all of you for bringing us together so we can

discuss the activities behind knowing your rights. one of the problems that we have because it kind of came to light in ferguson is that the police didn't fall out of the sky. they were hired in a democratic process and if people didn't vote, then you had a disconnect between the police and the law enforcement and the community. people have to exercise their vote and they have that as one of their themes to make sure a vote with people is a hopeless people has been the theme for many years and i think the members here including the president and former president of the fraternities to the extent that we can focus on making sure that we participate in the democratic process and make sure that the right people are elected that will go a long way in solving these problems so thank you for all that you do

using your celebrity her celebrity status to help a number of different ways. thank you very much. [applause] first of all i was in ferguson for two weeks and then i went back for another two weeks and we had a pension and social justice revival. we all have stories to tell that what young people don't understand is why is this happening to them. these are the thoughts against them that they feel are warranted so in order to organize successfully you have to understand the context of the fight. voting is an essential part of the participatory democracy but

one must ask the question in a militarized state what happens since 1990 has been giving weapons to the police department under the auspices aimed at the african-american community we have some serious questions to ask about what was going on and why did we not know that and why are we allowing it to happen and what can we do to change that? when the police departments are armed by the federal government pentagon you are moving away from the totalitarian state to the armed state police. i'm going to say some things. i think it's very important for us to understand that we are living in a society where colored people are two thirds of the majority, would no longer the majority and what we

experience whether it's the prison industrial complex or probation for profit or being killed in the street or cope with capital punishment, those means of social control is a means of maintaining white supremacy in the two thirds colored world. and so, we need to begin to work as we are living in an age of the southern strategy and these are all issues that we should be very aware of. we are dealing with these issues today of power, domination and control and young people are feeling very powerless. the young people don't understand what they have done to generate this and they are very upset.

it's very important. it's more than police training. they are trained to profile. they are trained in those massive weapons of construction for example in california when the school opened, the security guards had ak-47s. we need to come out of the fog and be honest about where we are today we can organize the policy and how we deal with stand your ground. [applause] >> let's talk about the media

and what has been the per trail and what message does that send as well as in the age of camera phones in social media, how can the media be used as a way to combat police brutality and if so what is the most effective way to get information to the media as well? pull the microphone a little closer to you. >> i think that without a doubt, first the thing that needs to be explained in terms of the media is that we are not all created equal. there are bad reporters and editors just like there are bad doctors and nurses and bad police officers and

unfortunately in this country it kind of runs the gamut from the little towns that have poor media operations to the really big media companies that do a better job. unfortunately for us i think the narrative of the community have been highlighted perhaps more than the success of the community. the thing that jumps out at me from reading about all these cases and watching the video committees her in this situations with the police is that these cops are terrified. they are absolutely terrified of young black boys, men and girls. this is true. but they are terrified of us and

i wonder, i am scratching my head trying to figure out when does that start when they see us as the enemy. in the barber shop this morning we were passing cell phones around and everybody was looking at the case in south carolina. have you seen this? he pulls over at the gas station and the cop shoots him simply because he was doing what he was told? it is crazy these sort of things answerpening.appening. your question about the role of the media in managing life in these united states or in ferguson missouri if cnn wasn't on the ground, "the new york times," "washington post," la

times imagine how the case would have gotten swept under the rugt down in the street. if these reporters were not out there with their cell phone or camera or radio microphones or newspapers pads covering the story -- the civil rights movement when you talk about the genesis and the momentum that was the civil rights movement, it didn't gain steam until they saw on tv the fire hoses and the german shepherds being released on these innocent poor black folks and in a lot of ways this is kind of what we are seeing right now. this movement of protection is what i would like to call it. this movement of protection of

the civility of us having and regaining and continuing to live with dignity and the society which is obsessed with guns as ruby said it's going to take all of us that the media is going to play a key role in this. i think that what you see as citizens and people that are not in the media when you hear of injustice, take up the telephone and file for e-mail. make it your business to have three or four reporters names in your context so that you can text message them. in some newspapers into digital journalism the cool thing about the digital journalism even though it was eating a bunch of our newspaper jobs, at the end of the stories on the net, the reporters will put their e-mail

addresses and you have access to that and so it's very important that, you know we establish the communities within the media so that we can help get the word out. >> in a way you're saying there's an opportunity or responsibility as a citizenry. >> major media didn't show up until a few days later. we know that because the major media is run by some of the same folks that put in the policies that continue to hold us down. on the other end is an opportunity. the fact of the matter is people on the ground in ferguson amplified the voice for social media industry are not listening

to the voices of the affected communities, we are not listening to anybody. i would highlight the day and age we can pull out the cell phone and camera phone in the document what happened. we can pull the true story of what's going on before cnn decides it is important enough for them to show up and we can amplify the voices of the youths were using these tools. so i just wanted to add that. >> the example that you see forever in the michael brown case with prosecutors around the country they all have sophisticated public information officers participate in how the betrayal and how they want to deal with certain situations. for example, michael brown told the prosecutor that decided he wasn't going to charge. number two, he wasn't going to reveal any of the evidence that he had in the case. and so two important things

happened. number one, we found in our practice that is very important at times and in some cases to align with the fbi and the department of justice and in doing so, similar to what you had in trayvon and michael brown. i was sitting in a meeting with two fbi agents in the st. louis field office and the very next day they had 48 agents on the ground doing their job and if you bought it and know that this happened they followed up the kendrick johnson case. do you believe that is the case because of the individuals that are in power now. would the response be different if it was a different

administration? who >> to start with president obama and number two with the attorney general holder obviously it is quite clear that washington had taken the interest of the case and they would be domicile in the country had some call into some interaction from washington from the executive suite in washington. so it's meant the world and use cases because like i said one day i am in st. louis with two agents in the meeting. and they had the ability and the next day there were 40 agents. i am not saying 40 agents in the hood is a good idea but it gets us back to justice quicker. the dynamics of -- i was glad they got smart where the fbi decided to go to the community college and let people talk privately if they want to talk

about whatever they want to talk about in ferguson related to michael brown versus when they come to knock on your door and whether or not you're going to talk to them so i'm glad that i want to say one other thing about the media because one of the issues we were confronted with it was clear they wanted it to die down. you don't want to get attention for the wrong reason. when you saw the autopsy come out and the diagram that came out is the one we wanted to come out and we used our resources to direct a story that ended up leading page one in "the new york times" monday morning and set the agenda for the country for that day. so, as you do this, the lawyers are equipped with things other people are not equipped with. if we are in the case we have access to things and use it within the rules that the best benefit our our client in vb

that our client story needed to be told in a way that it was told and will be. >> we have about 20, 25 minutes left. i want to get to you all out there. let's try to make all of our comments as concise as possible. >> i do want to make a comment to mr. ever. he said something about they don't know us and i think the key piece we forget about it is building relationships with our law-enforcement officers and officials in terms of the media if that is how they get to know us but they don't know us as individuals is something we did in florida was called bridging the gap conversation where we had the law-enforcement officers together to talk about issues and what we found out is that there was this disconnect socially and they didn't understand some of the things that were happening and this is the reason that they were scared. so in terms of the direct action piece, get to know your law-enforcement officers.

have conversations with them and attacked that piece of it. >> if we are talking about community-based policing and part of the response that we hear all the time from the police departments that have lack of diversity and community based on in the community based on leasing they say we would love to hire folks in the community but nobody ever applies. is there something we can do to hold them to task either insist on the community-based or the officers as a part of the requirement or creating an atmosphere where they would be receptive and want to join forces. the forces. does anyone have a comment on that? >> racial profiling is systemic and it violates civil rights and so getting to know the police

doesn't eradicate these issues. what irritates oregon citizens actions, understanding what's going on in organizing to defeat it. so i might know the police over here but that doesn't mean that is a system that evil or systemic injustice disappears. we've got to be very honest we are dealing with systemic issues and they are not personal defects of individual cops. because racial profiling is all over the country. and finally, about the media, we've been here before. during the lynching when black people were coming allies as the means of justifying. in the 1990s, there began a campaign in the country to propagandize the negative image of black people in the ronald reagan came up with [inaudible] by the time we got to where we are today, the world thinks that

we come from a culture of violence and deadbeat fathers and so therefore we constitute a danger to society and most especially to the security of white people and so that's why we can be killed and nobody bats an eye. there are reasons we have to begin to move beyond the personal emotion and get very, very pragmatic and clear about what we are dealing with. at least we would sacrifice our just going to another 100 years of lynching. [applause] >> if you have a question -- lineup behind that microphone there and i want to be very clear a question, please. i think that it makes a difference whether we know our local law-enforcement and they get to know the people and get

worked out. i can't emphasize it enough. i had an experience in my neighborhood rapist cop that they knew was riding around with a rookie that didn't quite know the neighborhood. because the cops knew me, i was walking, he stopped and parked the car and we talked. he brought together officer and introduced him to the neighborhood versus riding around in the car. that means the world when it comes to policing. >> my name is ron and i was a city council councilman in north new jersey for eight years. my question is some on the panel were several of you could address talking about the moral solutions. the appointment of federal monitors over these towns that are exhibiting police brutality. and secondly, the use and

creation of civilian or citizen review boards with subpoena power. in in that in the city it took us six years but finally we were working with the agency and myself leading as a councilperson finally got the federal government to sit in on the police brutality issues dating back to the riots and the rebellion of 67. finally after 47 years, we got the federal appointment that just got named in july and second the citizen review board there are several across the nation but they usually do not work because they do not have the power. if someone could talk about those issues in terms of being practical, pragmatic real solutions to break up the institution isn't black or white, it is blue and it's the institution of the blue that makes all those who participate in that a part of the same countermeasures. >> i would take part of it.

i am on the citizen review board and what you see is when you start to see the internal affairs or the prophet trying on the mortality it doesn't travel well. reverend sharpton made a great comment the other day. in florida we had republican governors who appointed special prosecutors. in missouri we have a democratic governor that refuses to step in on the point of the special prosecutor. it's the norm and a lot of times politicians some people think nationally they get to see the whole broad landscape. we see them not stepping up and not doing the right thing where you have a local police officer charged by the local prosecutor's office knowing that every case that comes out of that apartment is prosecuted by the prosecutor's office.

>> i am all for living with dignity and so are my forefathers. i write for phenomenal woman magazine published in the cleveland area. to that end during the civil rights movement movement the students that participated in the settings both campaigns they were actually trained on how to respond in those situations. so, my question is is it time to provide training to our community on this modern-day racial profiling civil rights issue because when our children are sitting in the back of the car and mom is arrested on the side of the road and -- this is the question. how are our children supposed to know how to respond because i'm watching them trying to run towards mom and i'm watching it on tv saying get back in the car because i don't want to see what they broadcast on television

nightly anymore. >> i work with an organization called the dream defenders this past summer. we conducted a sit in of governor rick scott's office. we were immersed in the act of civil disobedience into training and organizing the youth and community members around it however we are only in the state of florida this moment. from the dream founders perspective we would love for these to spring up across the country because we don't need to be the leaders for every community. they need their own and so if anybody needs the dream defenders support we would love to be there. >> do they make public their information about how to go about approaching being arrested, etc.? is that on your website? >> we utilize the aclu but we do have to get on the website, dream defenders.org if you want to get started on organizing other campaigns please e-mail us and we would love to support you and your efforts to lead the community.

>> the members of families who have experienced the murder of their loved ones and we are working with them so that they can become organizers in their own communities. and trained young people and themselves how to respond in his urgent crisis that we are facing. >> good afternoon. i am a member of the fraternity. my question or comment goes to the young lady -- what is your name again? we have an organization called project alpha of which most [inaudible] our chapter has incorporated a legal component to that, in which lawyers and attorneys

coming to speak with the high school students. the last time this occurred in colombia, i was so impressed by the amount of questions into the depth of the questions that the students had to the one attorney who was there. we were planning on doing it again. we are talking about solutions and how we can possibly cut down on the arrest and it begins with that teenager and we are addressing it and it could be not just by the turn of these organization, but every other organization that goes into a high school. >> i am very familiar with project a-alpha. research shows that officers are less likely to arrest someone that they know so it does break down that concept of the folks

operating in the broken system. so i would commend you on all the work that we are doing. >> we have one final question and then i will welcome someone to bring the closing remarks. >> my name is cheryl blankenship and i'm with the spirit house in atlanta also. my question is this. several of you have talked about constitutional rights. we have distributed it to our interns were other things like that. my concern is about this very conservative supreme court that we have that's changing constitutional rights, and i would appreciate it if you all want to speak to the confusing laws that are happening that have to do with the elimination of the right to remain silent so if police officers question you don't have that right any more. anymore. presume instead of being presumed innocent, you are now presumed guilty. and this issue when people come

with search warrants to the door because a lot of the cases we found, police have just walked in without warrants and have shot people indiscriminately and then later said wrong address. >> question please. >> the question is how do we educate the people about the changes going on in the supreme court? you can't refer to that book anymore because they are changing so quickly. how do we let people know, how do we tell our young brothers and sisters when you get out of the car you don't have to say this or do you have to say this? who >> i think that it first starts with us making sure that our children are better educated. i think a better educated citizen is able to respond to the situations better. so my answer would be a stronger, better, solid education in general. >> i want to go down the line

and ask for closing remarks from each panelist. please keep them concise. what are the last things you want folks to hear from you? we will start with you and then come down this way. >> number one, you need to tell your story. if something happens you have the social media tell your story. that's what i did and got 40,000 shares. you have to then decide if you're going to take action on that this attack and complain about it or do something about it. i decided to do something about my situation. i ended up with a record i shouldn't have had as an innocent person. a. a lot of people don't know they still have an arrest record. we started a petition online. i would encourage you all pleased to sign the petition. i've been meeting with legislators, talking with the department of justice. we are trying to change legislation. we are trying to introduce the new builds in the houses and then make a difference.

john f. kennedy said that every one, one person can make a difference. and everyone should try. those are my three words to you guys. >> organized, think and organize and to bring it to everything that you do everything has a context. hindsight what is this problem and how does that impact was going on today. and foresight, strategies to solve the issues so that's what i would say come and build the movement predicated on reality. spec i think the biggest vacuum in the black community today is an information vacuum, and the beauty to me of the civil rights era is we have meaningful conversations with one another about things that mattered in our lives, education in terms of how not to get beat down and how

to register to vote and all that. we still need to have all those conversations. more than ever we have to have those conversations. spread that information out there. go to the aclu website. it's very easy to find and book. it says in big giant letters what to do if you stop by the police. what to do. can you videotape or photograph the police? it is in very plain language. share that with your friends and relatives, children so we can protect ourselves. spec i would like to say don't get desensitized by the media. sometimes a random educated folks are like you know, it is only the trayvon margins and the michael brown. as you can see it happens to the educated folks as well. so i don't want you to be disconnected from the issue and i would've would challenge you to do local things in your

community. i personally believe that having relationships are critical. they can get to know one law-enforcement officer. >> we need to organize. the system isn't broken. it was designed to act exactly the way that it is acting. the system has been implemented to dehumanize us for hundreds of years. so unless the the organize and we all get agitated and angry we will continue to get the same treatment. >> people don't pick on people who can beat them. education takes you out of that

situation. thank you. >> i will see this in closing for myself. and closing for myself. when i went down to ferguson, my heart was heavy and i started looking at the grand jury was looking at. on the one level they could bring back a charge and on the other hand, it would be negligent manslaughter or a homicide charge. you break that down in front my legal background you've got something like a negligent homicide and start to hear the words that talk about creating a careless willful ignorance of creating a situation where probable death or extreme harm can occur. i realized that statute i am just as responsible for the death of michael brown junior as officer wilson because many of us have colluded in being willfully ignorant and

carelessly absent even though we know there's an institutional atmosphere that will create harm of two people in the communities -- poor people in the communities get we do nothing. so i should be charged, you should and we should be charged. stop eating carelessly ignorant and willfully involved then we are all at fault. i would like to welcome the general president told them to, and to close this out. [applause] >> and good afternoon. i would like to think the panelists for your insight on this issue and i had an opportunity as well to attend michael brown's funeral.

real quick, i personally was affected by the fact that this young man was shot. because as the president of the national organization one of the first things my members would say is are we going to have a statement? i don't want to make just another statement. they did make a contribution to the funeral where one of several individuals made the constitution because i wanted the family to know that it was a situation they didn't ask for. now they are just another set of parents who are on a tour to let people know that their son was killed unjustly so that's why we were here today and i was affected by that someone wanted to give a small part and i had an opportunity to meet with the family and in the case that your son's death will not be in vain.

i would like to think thank the national association of black journalists were cosponsoring this and the dream defenders for cosponsoring this because we know that it takes more than just sitting in a workshop to talk about the issues so that when we go back to their respective states and cities it is about doing at our local communities. i'm from new orleans louisiana and one of the first things i learned is number 100 you don't speed. because i forgot the folks saying when i was caught speaking i was pulled over. second, don't agitate. you're not into position to be in power when you're being pulled over by a police officer. you are in the position of why are you being pulled over in the first place. yes being from louisiana i learned three things. yes sir, no sir and i don't understand sir. i am not going to educate -- i

understand that i want to make sure that you are giving me the right answers or questions so i can let you know i don't understand, i do understand, or here is my credit card. so that's what i've learned growing up in new orleans louisiana. but we are here today because we know we have to take this information back. we have to engage the communities back in the respective location and we know that this here is another important vote. when president of comic is out in office, who only going to be voting for? i don't see anyone black coming in behind. and we may be voting for a woman. who knows. the fact is presidential, is going to be leaving office. so, are we prepared for what's next? that's why we are here to push the program called a vote plus people is a hopeless people, but we have a charge. first of all, we vote. every voter, every election.

that is our charge but i think you for being here and for being engaged in this important conversation. it's not going to stop because when we go back to the communities we will continue to speak, but more importantly we must vote and distressed we must vote and i would like to add every time and in every weather condition because we are sometimes afraid of the rain lets get out of the rain that can get for under allah, get back in the car and go to work. that's what we have to do. thank you for being here and i will turn it back over to the moderator. thank you. >> thank you everyone. i appreciate you being here. >> i will be at the park hosting a party for you if you want to

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